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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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Sources say the heads of Rosneft and Gazprom will be on the list of expanded US sanctions, revealed as early as tomorrow

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#Slovyansk: #Russian terrorist Strelkov says @OSCE reps won’t be released until he discusses it w #Russia [link to tsn.ua] … #Ukraine
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US about to fire the first shot of the war. Be in precious metals peeps - the dollar's about to go down hard.
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I must get some sleep sometime, but its hard to sleep these days. Almost 3 am here now




Separatists in Kharkiv are paid by Yanukovych, Tsaryov and Medvedchuk -b]

[link to tsn.ua]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35370080


lemme guess..

the Russians intercepted the 5 billion the US intended for the new Nazi regime.

amirite?
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


You keep repeating these lies, yet it does not make your lies true.

The '$5 billion' you and the other liars like you keep referring to was known money spent since 1991 on overt, legal, legitimate political support in Ukraine.

Second, it is not a Nazi regime. Yatsenyuk and Turchinov are both from center moderate parties, and the members of the Rada are all the same as befor, and president front-runner Poroshenko is a moderate.




The Russian supporters continue to show us that they have to lie, because you have no real justifcations based in truth.
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Presidential comms relay plane airborne out of Moscow. It's 0430 there right now.

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Presidential comms relay plane airborne out of Moscow. It's 0430 there right now.

[link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)]
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to clarify..this is the "doomsday" plane right?
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Presidential comms relay plane airborne out of Moscow. It's 0430 there right now.

[link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)]
 Quoting: djdandew1


to clarify..this is the "doomsday" plane right?
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one of them yes
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Napolean & Putin are the same height, just sayin'
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Presidential comms relay plane airborne out of Moscow. It's 0430 there right now.

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That's not a good sign this time of the night

hiding
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Presidential comms relay plane airborne out of Moscow. It's 0430 there right now.

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Russia/CIS does not posses so many nuclear warheads. Your data is at least 10 years old :) Their number decreases every year and according to specialists to 2015 Russia will have less than 200 pcs and, most likely about 145.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57415306


That's not true. Russia will be down to perhaps that many ICBMs (not counting submarine and aircraft launched weapons) but most of those ICBMs are mirved. The overall warhead count is about right for this year.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57422298


Guaranteed service life (10 years) of all nuclear weapon produced in time of the USSR ended in the end of 90th. In 1994-2002 Russia possessed 360 ICBMs only and since putting into service of new ICBM was slower than a disposal of old ones, to 2006 they have available 297 pcs of which 252 remained from 1993 and 45 pcs they put into service. According to estimations in 2008 Russia had about 218 pcs. Till 2015 Russia planned to put in service 120 Topol-M, but will need to write off all ICBMs produced till 1993. It is not possible to extend a service life forever. That’s why specialists estimated total number on the level of 145 ICBMs. Besides, they will be all mono-block ones. The US know this well.
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Yes, that is ICBMs (land missiles), not counting SLBMs (submarine missiles) and ALCMs (cruise missiles). But most of those missiles are MIRVed, which means each missile has several nuclear warheads. The new ones about 3-4 each, many of the old ones 6-10 each. And then there are tactical warheads, for battlefield use.

So Russia does still have a lot of them. But down from the 10,000 strategic weapons of 25 years ago.
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Well, you are right because I did not count submarines. This is another 162 ICBMs. However, the situation there is not really better. As for a general impression this is exactly what Russia wants others believe in and firstly Russian citizens. A service life does not change depending on whether it's MIRVed or mono-block missile. Even in case they manage somehow to extend a service life of some remained MIRVed missiles it may turn out an extention on paper. Anyway with next 5 years all old MIRVed ICBMs will be out of service. So, it remains RS-24 Yars (SS-27), but seems Russia has met some difficulties with substitution of SS-18 and SS-19 by SS-27. Decline is inevitable.
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Sources say the heads of Rosneft and Gazprom will be on the list of expanded US sanctions, revealed as early as tomorrow

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#Slovyansk: #Russian terrorist Strelkov says @OSCE reps won’t be released until he discusses it w #Russia [link to tsn.ua] … #Ukraine
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US about to fire the first shot of the war. Be in precious metals peeps - the dollar's about to go down hard.
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You are joking right? The dollar continues its rise against the ruble. The ruble's fall will accelerate rapidly this week, while the dollar rises.
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Sources say the heads of Rosneft and Gazprom will be on the list of expanded US sanctions, revealed as early as tomorrow

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#Slovyansk: #Russian terrorist Strelkov says @OSCE reps won’t be released until he discusses it w #Russia [link to tsn.ua] … #Ukraine
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US about to fire the first shot of the war. Be in precious metals peeps - the dollar's about to go down hard.
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You are joking right? The dollar continues its rise against the ruble. The ruble's fall will accelerate rapidly this week, while the dollar rises.
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The dollar is rising against the ruble because the Russian market is collapsing. However, the fundamentals of the US market are getting ever weaker and the alienation of the Russian market, coupled with the decoupling of Eastern and developing markets from the dollar, will bring down the dollar.
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I must get some sleep sometime, but its hard to sleep these days. Almost 3 am here now




Separatists in Kharkiv are paid by Yanukovych, Tsaryov and Medvedchuk -b]

[link to tsn.ua]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35370080


lemme guess..

the Russians intercepted the 5 billion the US intended for the new Nazi regime.

amirite?
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


You keep repeating these lies, yet it does not make your lies true.

The '$5 billion' you and the other liars like you keep referring to was known money spent since 1991 on overt, legal, legitimate political support in Ukraine.

Second, it is not a Nazi regime. Yatsenyuk and Turchinov are both from center moderate parties, and the members of the Rada are all the same as befor, and president front-runner Poroshenko is a moderate.




The Russian supporters continue to show us that they have to lie, because you have no real justifcations based in truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57417454


That is correct. The Russians keep propagandizing that Kiev government is Nazi government, when in reality the new Nazis of 2014 are from Moscow.

Very dangerous tyrannical government in Moscow right now. We have all been wondering for many years who/what would cause WWIII and the new Hitler in the Kremlin is it.
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I must get some sleep sometime, but its hard to sleep these days. Almost 3 am here now




Separatists in Kharkiv are paid by Yanukovych, Tsaryov and Medvedchuk -b]

[link to tsn.ua]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35370080


lemme guess..

the Russians intercepted the 5 billion the US intended for the new Nazi regime.

amirite?
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


You keep repeating these lies, yet it does not make your lies true.

The '$5 billion' you and the other liars like you keep referring to was known money spent since 1991 on overt, legal, legitimate political support in Ukraine.

Second, it is not a Nazi regime. Yatsenyuk and Turchinov are both from center moderate parties, and the members of the Rada are all the same as befor, and president front-runner Poroshenko is a moderate.


The Russian supporters continue to show us that they have to lie, because you have no real justifcations based in truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57417454


is that so?

ask yourself what Soros meant by a Marshall Plan for Ukraine earlier this year and why exactly the GOP suddenly supports Obozo, Biden, and Hillary on this Issue 100%

it is the epitome of naiveity to think that The Soros plan dated all the way back to 1991 or that they received the bulk of those funds prior to this year IMHO

expertise as a finance trader. This hardly holds as international finance requires profound knmowledge and understanding of international politics and geopolitics. That is why successful international financiers are usually well versed in many areas related to international finance.

The opinion of George Soros about a Marshall Plan for Ukraine is very appropriate and timely from the geopolitical and international finance points of view.

...

On April 6, 2014, George Soros somewhat unexpectedly visited Ukraine and held a number of meetings.

[link to www.freerepublic.com]

The U.S. has Installed a Neo-Nazi Government in Ukraine

Confirmed by Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland, key organizations in the Ukraine including the Neo-Nazi party Svoboda were generously supported by Washington: “We have invested more than 5 billion dollars to help Ukraine to achieve these and other goals. … We will continue to promote Ukraine to the future it deserves.”
The Western media has casually avoided to analyze the composition and ideological underpinnings of the government coalition. The word “Neo-Nazi” is a taboo. It has been excluded from the dictionary of mainstream media commentary. It will not appear in the pages of the New York Times, the Washington Post or The Independent. Journalists have been instructed not to use the term “Neo-Nazi” to designate Svoboda and the Right Sector.

[link to www.freerepublic.com]
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Presidential comms relay plane airborne out of Moscow. It's 0430 there right now.

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Is it going to do circles around the tiny ass island again lol?
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Presidential comms relay plane airborne out of Moscow. It's 0430 there right now.

[link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)]
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Is it going to do circles around the tiny ass island again lol?
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follow it live:

[link to www.flightradar24.com]
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Presidential comms relay plane airborne out of Moscow. It's 0430 there right now.

[link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)]
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Is it going to do circles around the tiny ass island again lol?
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follow it live:

[link to www.flightradar24.com]
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I am...not sure if it is going to St. Petersburg or what yet. Maintaining 28K right now.
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Presidential comms relay plane airborne out of Moscow. It's 0430 there right now.

[link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)]
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Is it going to do circles around the tiny ass island again lol?
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follow it live:

[link to www.flightradar24.com]
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I am...not sure if it is going to St. Petersburg or what yet. Maintaining 28K right now.
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Might land in St. Petersburg for fuel, and then do a full 6 hrs of circles again lol.
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I must get some sleep sometime, but its hard to sleep these days. Almost 3 am here now




Separatists in Kharkiv are paid by Yanukovych, Tsaryov and Medvedchuk -b]

[link to tsn.ua]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35370080


lemme guess..

the Russians intercepted the 5 billion the US intended for the new Nazi regime.

amirite?
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


You keep repeating these lies, yet it does not make your lies true.

The '$5 billion' you and the other liars like you keep referring to was known money spent since 1991 on overt, legal, legitimate political support in Ukraine.

Second, it is not a Nazi regime. Yatsenyuk and Turchinov are both from center moderate parties, and the members of the Rada are all the same as befor, and president front-runner Poroshenko is a moderate.




The Russian supporters continue to show us that they have to lie, because you have no real justifcations based in truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57417454


That is correct. The Russians keep propagandizing that Kiev government is Nazi government, when in reality the new Nazis of 2014 are from Moscow.

Very dangerous tyrannical government in Moscow right now. We have all been wondering for many years who/what would cause WWIII and the new Hitler in the Kremlin is it.
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just because 100% of NATO outside of Nigel Farage and Pat Buchanan claims that, doesn't make it true.

there is plenty of evidence to suggest the new regime there is Nazi.

why are you so afraid to proclaim what you believe in?

I thought the big bad Nazis were supposed to be fearless or something.
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I must get some sleep sometime, but its hard to sleep these days. Almost 3 am here now




Separatists in Kharkiv are paid by Yanukovych, Tsaryov and Medvedchuk -b]

[link to tsn.ua]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35370080


lemme guess..

the Russians intercepted the 5 billion the US intended for the new Nazi regime.

amirite?
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


You keep repeating these lies, yet it does not make your lies true.

The '$5 billion' you and the other liars like you keep referring to was known money spent since 1991 on overt, legal, legitimate political support in Ukraine.

Second, it is not a Nazi regime. Yatsenyuk and Turchinov are both from center moderate parties, and the members of the Rada are all the same as befor, and president front-runner Poroshenko is a moderate.


The Russian supporters continue to show us that they have to lie, because you have no real justifcations based in truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57417454


is that so?

ask yourself what Soros meant by a Marshall Plan for Ukraine earlier this year and why exactly the GOP suddenly supports Obozo, Biden, and Hillary on this Issue 100%

it is the epitome of naiveity to think that The Soros plan dated all the way back to 1991 or that they received the bulk of those funds prior to this year IMHO

expertise as a finance trader. This hardly holds as international finance requires profound knmowledge and understanding of international politics and geopolitics. That is why successful international financiers are usually well versed in many areas related to international finance.

The opinion of George Soros about a Marshall Plan for Ukraine is very appropriate and timely from the geopolitical and international finance points of view.

...

On April 6, 2014, George Soros somewhat unexpectedly visited Ukraine and held a number of meetings.

[link to www.freerepublic.com]

The U.S. has Installed a Neo-Nazi Government in Ukraine

Confirmed by Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland, key organizations in the Ukraine including the Neo-Nazi party Svoboda were generously supported by Washington: “We have invested more than 5 billion dollars to help Ukraine to achieve these and other goals. … We will continue to promote Ukraine to the future it deserves.”
The Western media has casually avoided to analyze the composition and ideological underpinnings of the government coalition. The word “Neo-Nazi” is a taboo. It has been excluded from the dictionary of mainstream media commentary. It will not appear in the pages of the New York Times, the Washington Post or The Independent. Journalists have been instructed not to use the term “Neo-Nazi” to designate Svoboda and the Right Sector.

[link to www.freerepublic.com]
 Quoting:

 Quoting: RTS REDUX



You continue your lies with pseudo-facts from dishonest sources. You Russians do love your lies dont you?




Here is where the exact "$5 billion" quote comes from:

[link to www.state.gov]

Remarks at the U.S.-Ukraine Foundation Conference

"Since Ukraine’s independence in 1991, the United States has supported Ukrainians as they build democratic skills and institutions, as they promote civic participation and good governance, all of which are preconditions for Ukraine to achieve its European aspirations. We’ve invested over $5 billion to assist Ukraine in these and other goals that will ensure a secure and prosperous and democratic Ukraine."
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This link may have already been posted as its a couple of days old, but the numbers of Russian troops heading towards the Ukrainian border is staggering.


[liveleak] [link to www.liveleak.com]
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Holy shit!
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nm, what I was going to say came back...

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That plane just disappeared off radar?
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yep, its back now though
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Presidential comms relay plane airborne out of Moscow. It's 0430 there right now.

[link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)]
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That's not a good sign this time of the night

hiding
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they have even left the transponder on, so it seems they want to leave the message
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What's interesting about the opposing nuclear stickpiles is the reserve and upload capacity. That is, if Cold War 2.0 kicked off, how many extra warheads could be fitted to the missiles.

For Russia, its not much. They already load their ICBMs and SLBMs with about as many warheads as will fit. So maybe 2000, up from today's 1800.

But America has been reducing its MIRV capability cor years, and srockpiling the warheads in reserve. If they wanted to, and given some months, they could more than double the number of warheads on their missiles, to about 4000.
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What's interesting about the opposing nuclear stickpiles is the reserve and upload capacity. That is, if Cold War 2.0 kicked off, how many extra warheads could be fitted to the missiles.

For Russia, its not much. They already load their ICBMs and SLBMs with about as many warheads as will fit. So maybe 2000, up from today's 1800.

But America has been reducing its MIRV capability cor years, and srockpiling the warheads in reserve. If they wanted to, and given some months, they could more than double the number of warheads on their missiles, to about 4000.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57422298


The US and Russia have similar offensive nuclear capabilities, but the US far suspasses Russia on the defensive front against nuclear attack.

The clincher in the world to me is Israel. I bet they have more nukes than anyone, and an excellent ballistic missile defense capability also.

Many people who follow prophecy believe that it will be Israel that takes on and defeats Russia, not the US.





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