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Sun_dancer
User ID: 48671548 United States 03/27/2014 08:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 those that voted yes were affirming their approval of the nazi takeover in Ukraine and showing a willingness to return to statist collectivism (Agenda 21) sponsored by the Vatican. Quoting: RTS REDUX both Stalin and Hitler were Jesuits which is why I said a "return" to statism. China and Russia are moving away that sort of thing as the west is moving towards it. (Agenda 21) I still don't understand why they were "affirming their approval of the nazi takeover in Ukraine". The vote regarded the validity of the Crimean declaration of independence, and had nothing to do with the putsch in Kiev. I doubt most of the countries voting thought they were approving the coup; under one conception of international law a region of a country cannot split off legally, regardless of the circumstances. Also I don't understand what the Vatican has to do with sponsoring Agenda 21 (which is a non-binding UN program) but I leave that for another thread :). Last Edited by Sun_dancer on 03/27/2014 08:16 PM Sun_dancer |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56105819 United States 03/27/2014 08:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 If you want a vote to represent what those voting REALLY think it has to be by secret ballot. That applies to individuals, UN Representatives, or legislators IMO. If the vote isn't secret there are too many ways to coerce an outcome. Just my two cents. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40739695 United Kingdom 03/27/2014 08:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Proper TV - Direct Broadcast Live Press Conference of the President of Ukraine VF Yanukovych Press Conference of the President of Ukraine VF Yanukovych from Rostov-on-Don So, it's actually 3pm? Yes. The video had the wrong time when it started which led to some confusion. they corrected that. my favourite comment from that page. Yanukovych: "I rested. I come" surely RT will broadcast and provide a live translation |
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User ID: 22608763 United States 03/27/2014 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 gandalf greybeard ‏@gerrydogma 4m WSJ : Russian troops massing near UKR actively concealing positions & establishing supply lines that could be used in a prolonged deployment gandalf greybeard ‏@gerrydogma 1m WSJ : US fears stoked by rapid speed of Russian deployments and efforts to camouflage forces + IC struggling with assessing Putin intentions |
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User ID: 22608763 United States 03/27/2014 08:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 gandalf greybeard ‏@gerrydogma · 52s WSJ : Military officials said the camouflaging has further complicated U.S. efforts to assess the size and scope of the military forces |
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Forum Administrator User ID: 5725534 United States 03/27/2014 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 why the big countdown tho theyve staryted counting down from like 6 hours ago very strange to start countdown that early Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48087822 ikr...I found that a little strange too. To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
Newshunter
User ID: 22608763 United States 03/27/2014 08:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 As Janey pointed out, if the purpose of the speech is to add legitimacy to a Russian intervention in mainland Ukraine, then the Russians would likely already have started moving in by the time the speech actually starts. Similar to Bush's speech at the start of the Iraq war. Makes for an interesting 12 hour countdown. Hopefully it won't happen but it is hard not to wonder the way things are setting up right now. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56105819 We'll know in the next few hours. It's 2:30am in the URK. If the Russians come it will likely be just before daybreak |
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Sun_dancer
User ID: 48671548 United States 03/27/2014 08:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Since you refuse to use your own brain, let me spell it out for you: how is Russia "isolated", or how has it "lost", when countries representing 2/3 of the world's population say what it did is OK? Quoting: Sun_dancer There is no logic at all to pointing out 2/3ds of the world's population is under governments that are fine with Crimea declaring independence. Really? That to you means nothing? What's more important is the number of ambassadors that voted "Yes" at the UN? Sorry if this is a bit hard to grasp. But if you try to understand the situation rather than score some cheap propaganda victory maybe you will start to understand, not just this event, but all the events about to unfold .... Crimea didn't declare independence. Governments that "represent" people can be fine with anything. With Gulag Archipelago, occupation of Tibet or prevention of independence of Kashmir. What? First the Crimean Parliament declared independence from Ukraine - [link to www.npr.org] - and then the people by referendum ratified that - [link to en.wikipedia.org] ("Many Western and Ukrainian commentators argued that both choices [on the Crimean referendum ballot] would result in de facto separation from Ukraine.") Enemy (KGB Russia) of your enemy (US corrupt government) ain't always your friend. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49924876 KGB is history - they failed to overthrow Gorby and now there are new agencies. I don't pretend Russia is always my friend, there are many things I don't like about Russia. But there are also many things I like about the US government. In this particular case I support the (democratic) re-unification of the Russian people across national boundaries drawn by the Bolsheviks; I would also support re-unification of the Koreas, and I fully supported the re-unification of Germany and that of China (with Hong Kong - Taiwan I would do if done democratically). In this regard I am quite consistent. Sun_dancer |
GodzillaReturns
Apex Predator User ID: 55298648 United States 03/27/2014 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 As Janey pointed out, if the purpose of the speech is to add legitimacy to a Russian intervention in mainland Ukraine, then the Russians would likely already have started moving in by the time the speech actually starts. Similar to Bush's speech at the start of the Iraq war. Makes for an interesting 12 hour countdown. Hopefully it won't happen but it is hard not to wonder the way things are setting up right now. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56105819 We'll know in the next few hours. It's 2:30am in the URK. If the Russians come it will likely be just before daybreak so much for goign to bed early huh newshunter? For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF If you give me red don’t be a pussy and put your name on it. Have the balls to stand by what you say |
Newshunter
User ID: 22608763 United States 03/27/2014 08:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Russian Buildup Stokes Worries Pentagon Alarmed as Troops Mass Near Ukraine Border [link to online.wsj.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54504562 Canada 03/27/2014 08:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 gandalf greybeard ‏@gerrydogma 4m Quoting: Newshunter WSJ : Russian troops massing near UKR actively concealing positions & establishing supply lines that could be used in a prolonged deployment gandalf greybeard ‏@gerrydogma 1m WSJ : US fears stoked by rapid speed of Russian deployments and efforts to camouflage forces + IC struggling with assessing Putin intentions US should show evidence of these troop deployments and supply lines. |
Puckerfactor
User ID: 45874141 United States 03/27/2014 08:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 gandalf greybeard ‏@gerrydogma 4m Quoting: Newshunter WSJ : Russian troops massing near UKR actively concealing positions & establishing supply lines that could be used in a prolonged deployment gandalf greybeard ‏@gerrydogma 1m WSJ : US fears stoked by rapid speed of Russian deployments and efforts to camouflage forces + IC struggling with assessing Putin intentions Maybe the Intelligence Community (IC) should stop taking selfies and do their job interpreting intel!!! WTF Ever closer to darkness we ride relentless hell hounds by our side.... ....I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hellfire was following close behind him...... Just keeping the score..... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56105819 United States 03/27/2014 08:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 As Janey pointed out, if the purpose of the speech is to add legitimacy to a Russian intervention in mainland Ukraine, then the Russians would likely already have started moving in by the time the speech actually starts. Similar to Bush's speech at the start of the Iraq war. Makes for an interesting 12 hour countdown. Hopefully it won't happen but it is hard not to wonder the way things are setting up right now. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56105819 We'll know in the next few hours. It's 2:30am in the URK. If the Russians come it will likely be just before daybreak They certainly aren't likely to wait until the afternoon when the speech is scheduled. That would make no sense at all. I agree that if that is the purpose of the speech then the Russian move should come much sooner. Not long to wait. |
Puckerfactor
User ID: 45874141 United States 03/27/2014 08:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 gandalf greybeard ‏@gerrydogma · 52s Quoting: Newshunter WSJ : Military officials said the camouflaging has further complicated U.S. efforts to assess the size and scope of the military forces Not exactly a ragtag group of insurgents in Toyota trucks now is it. LOL, "technicals".... Ever closer to darkness we ride relentless hell hounds by our side.... ....I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hellfire was following close behind him...... Just keeping the score..... |
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Forum Administrator User ID: 5725534 United States 03/27/2014 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Big time jamming going on.... 8992.00 [link to websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901] To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |
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Apex Predator User ID: 55298648 United States 03/27/2014 08:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 any idea on location that's taking place in? wether that would be europe or middle east? For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF If you give me red don’t be a pussy and put your name on it. Have the balls to stand by what you say |
The Årtist
User ID: 44124412 United States 03/27/2014 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 You know, I was about to say you don't know what you're talking about blah blah blah. So I went on over popped in 8992.00 and holy crap, I've never ever seen a big ass laser beam that wide blowing out all communications in those freqs like ever in the years I've monitored. By jove, I think you're correct. Whatever that is it's blocking everything in a wide ass spectrum. RAGE |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12944722 United States 03/27/2014 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Soyuz TMA-10M spacecraft carrying an American astronaut and two Russian cosmonauts docks at the International Space Station. _LIVE Quoting: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa [link to rt.com] damn a world power has to hitch a ride in space from a regional power. how pathetic |
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Forum Administrator User ID: 5725534 United States 03/27/2014 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 any idea on location that's taking place in? wether that would be europe or middle east? it seemed to be widely dispersed...multiple frequencies it has stopped now To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders. A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock. A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him. INTP-A |