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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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Abbott's mission to Ukraine branded 'nuts'

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You could make the same argument for Australia's mission to Gallipoli in WW2...
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Well I can tell you one thing. In an all out conventional war with Russia and the United States, whoever is about to lose in said conflict, you can bet your ass they wouldn't just roll over. Let's say Russia began CRUSHING the USA or vice versa. How much do you think it would take until they stated popping off nukes? The loser that is.
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Russia crushing the USA!!! LMFAOOOO!! Let russia start popping the cap on those 60 year old ICBM's...see what happens!! The rest of their shit the US can shoot down long before it gets stateside. You've been listening to too much propaganda from the 1950's and 60's....and bullshit from YT declaring how bad assed the russian war machine is. Fucking bullshit is what it is. Even with a limp fag in the WH, the russians are so scared they can't risk crossing a border without pretending to be someone else.
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Well I can tell you one thing. In an all out conventional war with Russia and the United States, whoever is about to lose in said conflict, you can bet your ass they wouldn't just roll over. Let's say Russia began CRUSHING the USA or vice versa. How much do you think it would take until they stated popping off nukes? The loser that is.
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Russia crushing the USA!!! LMFAOOOO!! Let russia start popping the cap on those 60 year old ICBM's...see what happens!! The rest of their shit the US can shoot down long before it gets stateside. You've been listening to too much propaganda from the 1950's and 60's....and bullshit from YT declaring how bad assed the russian war machine is. Fucking bullshit is what it is. Even with a limp fag in the WH, the russians are so scared they can't risk crossing a border without pretending to be someone else.
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bs.

Russian SAM's travel Mach 12-14

the fastest NATO SAM is MACH 5
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Putin's latest public statement calling for a ceasefire from all sides so the team of international investigators can have safe and secure access to the crime scene of MH17.
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Well I can tell you one thing. In an all out conventional war with Russia and the United States, whoever is about to lose in said conflict, you can bet your ass they wouldn't just roll over. Let's say Russia began CRUSHING the USA or vice versa. How much do you think it would take until they stated popping off nukes? The loser that is.
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Russia crushing the USA!!! LMFAOOOO!! Let russia start popping the cap on those 60 year old ICBM's...see what happens!! The rest of their shit the US can shoot down long before it gets stateside. You've been listening to too much propaganda from the 1950's and 60's....and bullshit from YT declaring how bad assed the russian war machine is. Fucking bullshit is what it is. Even with a limp fag in the WH, the russians are so scared they can't risk crossing a border without pretending to be someone else.
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bs.

Russian SAM's travel Mach 12-14

the fastest NATO SAM is MACH 5
 Quoting: RTS REDUX



BULLSHIT!!!! Where has it been used? Like the bullshit russian tanks. We all know how well that worked for Iraq in the gulf war. The american tanks ran over top of them and they could again because russia has a bunch of inept systems, untested, low quality junk iron! Russia's military might NOW if the biggest hoax of the last hundred years. They are relying on propaganda like a fucking toothless viper that hisses a lot. When you attack it, it shits all over itself in defense.
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The People of Donbass have something to say
“Why? What did we do to you to deserve this, America and EU?”

[ Editor's note: The East Ukrainians are getting their public relations in gear. This was a power piece, no narration needed, as the message is clear.

As Americans, we are faced with a simple decision. We can whine on the internet about how terrible all this is having our name connected to it, or we can hound out the political structure that has endorsed it, which includes most of them. You EU folks can do the same.

To have some impact, all that is needed is to do what we all did to help stop the Syrian air attack campaign. We poured our opposition into politicians offices on a scale many could not remember.

It caught them totally by surprise and really shook them up. But they are firm believers in the news cycle and the public's short attention span. They view the Syria outpouring as a fluke.

With what is going on in Gaza now, we have a “two for one” opportunity. Sure, a ceasefire is eventually going to come out of the current slaughter, but the credit we give the US reps should last about 60 seconds, and then we need to start hammering them that it is game-change time, and that all this slaughter is happening over and over as they refuse to put the drone strikes in on who the real killers are, the real terrorists. You know who I am talking about.

They will not do it until we force them to. They will either be more afraid of the Israeli and NeoCon Lobby, or us. That will determine what they do, particularly if the polls show them with a safe lead. And even if we lose a couple of rounds, we can still do a lot of damage by heaping public contempt upon them... non stop.

More read here [link to www.veteranstoday.com]
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BREAKING NEWS!

Putin's Sudden Night Statement about Boeing

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BREAKING NEWS!

Putin's Sudden Night Statement about Boeing


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We need a translation please!
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Abbott's mission to Ukraine branded 'nuts'

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You could make the same argument for Australia's mission to Gallipoli in WW2...
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Slight correct Tpot - Gallipoli was in WWI.

The situation is completely different as we were sent in as cannon fodder for England. This time we are going in of our own accord to secure a crime scene on foreign soil.

That said, in all my life I have never heard the Australian Government so angry in their words and that in itself makes me nervous.
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Well I can tell you one thing. In an all out conventional war with Russia and the United States, whoever is about to lose in said conflict, you can bet your ass they wouldn't just roll over. Let's say Russia began CRUSHING the USA or vice versa. How much do you think it would take until they stated popping off nukes? The loser that is.
 Quoting: The Årtist




Russia crushing the USA!!! LMFAOOOO!! Let russia start popping the cap on those 60 year old ICBM's...see what happens!! The rest of their shit the US can shoot down long before it gets stateside. You've been listening to too much propaganda from the 1950's and 60's....and bullshit from YT declaring how bad assed the russian war machine is. Fucking bullshit is what it is. Even with a limp fag in the WH, the russians are so scared they can't risk crossing a border without pretending to be someone else.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60792935


bs.

Russian SAM's travel Mach 12-14

the fastest NATO SAM is MACH 5
 Quoting: RTS REDUX



BULLSHIT!!!! Where has it been used? Like the bullshit russian tanks. We all know how well that worked for Iraq in the gulf war. The american tanks ran over top of them and they could again because russia has a bunch of inept systems, untested, low quality junk iron! Russia's military might NOW if the biggest hoax of the last hundred years. They are relying on propaganda like a fucking toothless viper that hisses a lot. When you attack it, it shits all over itself in defense.
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that's the thing

they don't use them because they've never had to.

Russia isn't a wasteful warmongering nation like the US.

Have you noticed all the old equipment sometimes from WW2 being used in Ukraine? How many operational WW2 machines do you think the US has for an emergency?

as far as you thinking it's bs, go ahead and look it up for yourself.
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This "6 hours defeating" is brilliant BS, it was publicated only on one rusophobic Caucasus web (very close to kavkazcenter.com) and it is more than one year old hoax. According article it was proclamation of Russian MoD. If you really believe in this you should not use internet anymore...
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!

Are you calling Putin's Deputy PM a liar? He said it to a group of experts. Are you saying he is incompetent? If you are, why does Putin allow him to retain his post? This isn't shill shit is came from the mouth of the 3rd most powerful man in Russia.
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Link, please...

yawn zzzz
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O.k., don't waste your time, I found it. Yes, it is article published on 29. 6. 2013 on Caucasus web Minval.az. As I said it is very close to Kavkazcenter.com, it is very rusophobic and it is pure BS. For example there was infos about that Russia will invade Ukraine with paratrooper landing straight in Kiev on 9th of May 2014. Totally unreliable. And, if you will use your brain, you recognize this - if Rogozin say something like that it will be no. 1 headliner worldwide. Not only one article on one dusty Caucasus web. Wake up, dude...
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bump
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BREAKING NEWS!

Putin's Sudden Night Statement about Boeing


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We need a translation please!
 Quoting: PIR


I've gotta rush out now but the gist is that he is once again calling for a ceasefire from all sides. He is re stating the need for the MH17 crime scene to be made safe and secure so an international team of investigators can get in there and do their work.

His statement is in accord to the recent UN Security Council's Resolution for a safe and secure around the crash site to be established.

There should be a translation button available on the bottom right of the video.
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BREAKING NEWS!

Putin's Sudden Night Statement about Boeing


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We need a translation please!
 Quoting: PIR


I've gotta rush out now but the gist is that he is once again calling for a ceasefire from all sides. He is re stating the need for the MH17 crime scene to be made safe and secure so an international team of investigators can get in there and do their work.

His statement is in accord to the recent UN Security Council's Resolution for a safe and secure around the crash site to be established.

There should be a translation button available on the bottom right of the video.
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Got it...thanks
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U.S. Could Help Ukraine Target Rebels’ Missiles
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This should have been done one month ago.
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U.S. Could Help Ukraine Target Rebels’ Missiles
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This should have been done one month ago.
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if both sides end up helping their proxy at some point in time

there going to shoot each other.
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Well I can tell you one thing. In an all out conventional war with Russia and the United States, whoever is about to lose in said conflict, you can bet your ass they wouldn't just roll over. Let's say Russia began CRUSHING the USA or vice versa. How much do you think it would take until they stated popping off nukes? The loser that is.
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Russia crushing the USA!!! LMFAOOOO!! Let russia start popping the cap on those 60 year old ICBM's...see what happens!! The rest of their shit the US can shoot down long before it gets stateside. You've been listening to too much propaganda from the 1950's and 60's....and bullshit from YT declaring how bad assed the russian war machine is. Fucking bullshit is what it is. Even with a limp fag in the WH, the russians are so scared they can't risk crossing a border without pretending to be someone else.
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bs.

Russian SAM's travel Mach 12-14

the fastest NATO SAM is MACH 5
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And you know Top Secret info? Yeah I didn't think so.
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Well I can tell you one thing. In an all out conventional war with Russia and the United States, whoever is about to lose in said conflict, you can bet your ass they wouldn't just roll over. Let's say Russia began CRUSHING the USA or vice versa. How much do you think it would take until they stated popping off nukes? The loser that is.
 Quoting: The Årtist




Russia crushing the USA!!! LMFAOOOO!! Let russia start popping the cap on those 60 year old ICBM's...see what happens!! The rest of their shit the US can shoot down long before it gets stateside. You've been listening to too much propaganda from the 1950's and 60's....and bullshit from YT declaring how bad assed the russian war machine is. Fucking bullshit is what it is. Even with a limp fag in the WH, the russians are so scared they can't risk crossing a border without pretending to be someone else.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60792935


bs.

Russian SAM's travel Mach 12-14

the fastest NATO SAM is MACH 5
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


And you know Top Secret info? Yeah I didn't think so.
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what makes you think it's top secret?

the info about S300's and 400's (Mach 12) is on YT.

S500 (Mach 14) info is available just by doing a simple google search.

the fastest NATO SAM (the patriot) does Mach 5

tommissile
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Russia crushing the USA!!! LMFAOOOO!! Let russia start popping the cap on those 60 year old ICBM's...see what happens!! The rest of their shit the US can shoot down long before it gets stateside. You've been listening to too much propaganda from the 1950's and 60's....and bullshit from YT declaring how bad assed the russian war machine is. Fucking bullshit is what it is. Even with a limp fag in the WH, the russians are so scared they can't risk crossing a border without pretending to be someone else.
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bs.

Russian SAM's travel Mach 12-14

the fastest NATO SAM is MACH 5
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


And you know Top Secret info? Yeah I didn't think so.
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what makes you think it's top secret?

the info about S300's and 400's (Mach 12) is on YT.

S500 (Mach 14) info is available just by doing a simple google search.

the fastest NATO SAM (the patriot) does Mach 5

:tommissile:
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


The government doesn't put ALL technology online for people to read. Nor would they post "true" capabilities. There's crazy tech out there that would make your head spin. On that same note however, there is tech out there that is not near as good as what they want you to think.
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If Putin were competent and as powerful as the shills claim he is, we wouldn't be in this colossal shit-storm. That is to say Putin allowed to coup to succeed. If Americans spent 5 billion, Putin should have spent 6 billion. The Americans would never allow a coup to succeed in Mexico City and Ottawa that was hostile to the Yanks.
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Very insightful. Powerful forces are beginning to organize which believe Putin is sacrificing too much for what is to be gained by claiming Donetsk. Too many people in Russia are beginning to suffer over an issue that many believe is Putin's personal campaign against the Kyivians, and Americans. The mood is rapidly changing seeing Putin as taking personal vengeance.
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URGENT: UPDATED – Warning of Impending Terrorist Acts by the Kiev Junta, July 26, 2014

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Talk about no shame. They shoot a civilian airliner out of the sky, then warn about others committing terror attacks.
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Too much. I ask myself, who is more likely to callously shoot a civilian airliner?

People defending themselves with no history of aggressive behavior to civilians or an out of control Ukranian army presently bombing, strafing and shelling civilians to near oblivion?

Let me see. Oh, yeah. The assholes presently slaughtering civilians. By the way, shill. No one has shown any proof who or what shot down this plane. You should be ashamed to talk as though you are judge and jury when you know squat.
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bs.

Russian SAM's travel Mach 12-14

the fastest NATO SAM is MACH 5
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


And you know Top Secret info? Yeah I didn't think so.
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what makes you think it's top secret?

the info about S300's and 400's (Mach 12) is on YT.

S500 (Mach 14) info is available just by doing a simple google search.

the fastest NATO SAM (the patriot) does Mach 5

tommissile
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


The government doesn't put ALL technology online for people to read. Nor would they post "true" capabilities. There's crazy tech out there that would make your head spin. On that same note however, there is tech out there that is not near as good as what they want you to think.
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I don't doubt that, but it seems Russia has much less braggadocio as far as weapons go, and their secrets are probably much better guarded then the US.
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Well I can tell you one thing. In an all out conventional war with Russia and the United States, whoever is about to lose in said conflict, you can bet your ass they wouldn't just roll over. Let's say Russia began CRUSHING the USA or vice versa. How much do you think it would take until they stated popping off nukes? The loser that is.
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Russia crushing the USA!!! LMFAOOOO!! Let russia start popping the cap on those 60 year old ICBM's...see what happens!! The rest of their shit the US can shoot down long before it gets stateside. You've been listening to too much propaganda from the 1950's and 60's....and bullshit from YT declaring how bad assed the russian war machine is. Fucking bullshit is what it is. Even with a limp fag in the WH, the russians are so scared they can't risk crossing a border without pretending to be someone else.
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Your ability for abstract thought is obviously NIL. Did you read the next three words? They said "OR VICE VERSA"

My point wasn't to say who would beat who, the point was to illustrate the losing side using nukes, whichever side that was. Same thing would happen in a conflict between India and Pakistan. If they were fighting a conventional war and one side started beating the crap out of the other the losing side would surely escalate.

The funny thing about my comment is that I said it the way I did because I knew someone would respond just like you did. It clearly illustrates just how simple it is to get a rise out of simpletons like yourself. It shows how easily controlled your emotions are. This means you're pliable and easy to manipulate. If someone can get a rise out of you like that on a forum, imagine what the inventors of modern public relations can do to you. And the best part, you'll think it's all your own ideas and thoughts. Edward Bernays was brilliant, and you're a shining example.

Arrogance and hubris do not win wars, they lose them. And while we common shitizens may boast about our own country's military prowess, our government doesn't. Because even though you may be 100% correct, a conflict is still going to see a shit ton of death and destruction.

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Some info about Russian military help for Novorossiya. It is from Slavyangrad/Cassad and similar sources, it is fresh and I think there is high probability it is true...

Yesterday our colleagues were returning from the border after delivering to the embattled Novorossiya yet another batch of humanitarian aid, which has been organized through IAC “Cassad” and “The Voice of Sevastopol”. En route, they shot footage of an interesting movement in the Rostov area (confirmed to be in the area of Novochercassk). A vast mechanized column (BTRs with infantry on board, tented trucks, staff vehicles, various ancillary equipment) is moving toward the border. According to rough estimates, the column has stretched out over ten kilometres.

Anticipating questions with respect to whether this would constitute disclosing some sort of military secret, we were advised that there would nothing wrong in disclosure, that the movement is proceeding out in the open and that no secret is being of it.

The question of why and where all this equipment is going in such numbers is purely rhetorical.

The following information appeared yesterday on Holera-Ham LiveJournal:

So, guys, literally five minutes ago I had a smoke with a friend, who yesterday took his relatives to the border-crossing checkpoint Donetsk-Izvarino. He has several relatives in the ranks of the Militia, who were the ones to escort them yesterday to the border, then crossed with them briefly and came back. Here are his impressions after meeting them over “tea”:

The aid is coming, this has been confirmed by the militiamen, and the friend so a great number of Kamaz trucks moving toward the border, some of them without license plates, some brand new, and some – well used.
The militiamen themselves are dressed and shod very soundly, and they prefer not our new uniforms, but the American camouflage or our old camouflage. According to them, the steppes have all burned out, and our uniforms stand out too much against the background.
There are instructors. Apart from that, no further commentary.
Ukies’ shrieks that they are being pummeled from both sides of the border, to great astonishment, turned out not to be just fantasies on the part of the cretin Tymchuk. While no Russian troops appear to be involved, all the shelling is coming from neutral territory, from the so-called null-buffer zones on the border.
The mood of the guys, in principle, was normal; at the very least, he did not notice any depression. The toasts were only for victory.
Our side of the border is on complete lock-down, so that not a mouse can sneak by. In the air, there are continuous patrols with helicopters groups; they pass very low along the border.
With respect to the lack of mass enlistment into the Militia – according to the militiamen themselves, the more Ukies blast away at the mines, the more of them are forced to close (electrical transformers are destroyed and mines close), the more volunteer miners flow into the ranks of the Militia.
The overwhelming majority of militiamen are, nevertheless, from Ukraine.
The guys snacked on American rations and smoked American-made cigarettes.
In brief, that is all. I was especially pleased with points 3 and 4. Point 4 is a complete revelation, in a good sense of the word.

PS. Let us say that the author’s description is very close to what is, in reality, happening on the border, although some points have been omitted or, more likely, are not being disclosed.

[link to slavyangrad.wordpress.com]

[link to cassad.net]


 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!

Why would you post this?

The guys snacked on American rations and smoked American-made cigarettes.


It makes it look like Russians cannot afford to issue their own field rations, that Russians do not make their own rations. Telling of cigarettes is acceptable, no more of 'American' cigarettes.
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well there are shells for artillery that are armed with nukes. so these have to be moved into position.
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

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RT-24s, moving them, is high stakes brinkmanship poker, he's posturing. Like I said, this is a massive game changer for China. You can bet your ass face-to-face discussions either have occurred, are occurring, or will occur shortly. Putin is in madman territory.
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Explain to me how surrounding Russia with first strike nuclear missiles is business as usual, but when Russian points missiles back this is suddenly "madman" territory.

Get your shit straight. I'm tired of knee-jerk, flag waving American Exceptionalism, which is nothing more than the authentic American narrative hijacked by Zionist neo-cons.

If you think its America's Manifest Destiny to make the world safe for Monsanto and the LGBT agenda, maybe you should think twice when Putin is posturing and telling America's neo-con establishment, "no and no more."

If you think about it, what Putin is communicating is hardly different than what many Americans are saying to their neo-con government.

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America's Manifest Destiny also known as "the Obama Doctrine"


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Too funny! lolsign
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Well I can tell you one thing. In an all out conventional war with Russia and the United States, whoever is about to lose in said conflict, you can bet your ass they wouldn't just roll over. Let's say Russia began CRUSHING the USA or vice versa. How much do you think it would take until they stated popping off nukes? The loser that is.
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Russia crushing the USA!!! LMFAOOOO!! Let russia start popping the cap on those 60 year old ICBM's...see what happens!! The rest of their shit the US can shoot down long before it gets stateside. You've been listening to too much propaganda from the 1950's and 60's....and bullshit from YT declaring how bad assed the russian war machine is. Fucking bullshit is what it is. Even with a limp fag in the WH, the russians are so scared they can't risk crossing a border without pretending to be someone else.
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Your ability for abstract thought is obviously NIL. Did you read the next three words? They said "OR VICE VERSA"

My point wasn't to say who would beat who, the point was to illustrate the losing side using nukes, whichever side that was. Same thing would happen in a conflict between India and Pakistan. If they were fighting a conventional war and one side started beating the crap out of the other the losing side would surely escalate.

The funny thing about my comment is that I said it the way I did because I knew someone would respond just like you did. It clearly illustrates just how simple it is to get a rise out of simpletons like yourself.

Arrogance and hubris do not win wars, they lose them. And while we common shitizens may boast about our own country's military prowess, our government doesn't. Because even though you are may be 100% correct, a conflict is still going to see a shit ton of death and destruction.
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Sadly, they would fire nukes long before anyone could win or lose. When the first shots ring out from rifles on the first day, i'd expect nukes within the hour.
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Well I can tell you one thing. In an all out conventional war with Russia and the United States, whoever is about to lose in said conflict, you can bet your ass they wouldn't just roll over. Let's say Russia began CRUSHING the USA or vice versa. How much do you think it would take until they stated popping off nukes? The loser that is.
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Russia crushing the USA!!! LMFAOOOO!! Let russia start popping the cap on those 60 year old ICBM's...see what happens!! The rest of their shit the US can shoot down long before it gets stateside. You've been listening to too much propaganda from the 1950's and 60's....and bullshit from YT declaring how bad assed the russian war machine is. Fucking bullshit is what it is. Even with a limp fag in the WH, the russians are so scared they can't risk crossing a border without pretending to be someone else.
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Your ability for abstract thought is obviously NIL. Did you read the next three words? They said "OR VICE VERSA"

My point wasn't to say who would beat who, the point was to illustrate the losing side using nukes, whichever side that was. Same thing would happen in a conflict between India and Pakistan. If they were fighting a conventional war and one side started beating the crap out of the other the losing side would surely escalate.

The funny thing about my comment is that I said it the way I did because I knew someone would respond just like you did. It clearly illustrates just how simple it is to get a rise out of simpletons like yourself.

Arrogance and hubris do not win wars, they lose them. And while we common shitizens may boast about our own country's military prowess, our government doesn't. Because even though you are may be 100% correct, a conflict is still going to see a shit ton of death and destruction.
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Sadly, they would fire nukes long before anyone could win or lose. When the first shots ring out from rifles on the first day, i'd expect nukes within the hour.
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And I agree with you. There's more hype around this than the Super Bowl and World Cup combined. From the first shot the stakes, I fear, are so high that you're absolutely correct.
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Ukraine is broke. When Yatsenyuk resigned a few day ago, he said there is no money to pay civil servants or the army, or for the fuel to move the army. Even though they are forcing conscription, there is no money to pay the new soldiers. Wars are expensive, and Ukraine is now flat broke.

IMO, the ukraine army is being worn down in the East, so they will not be able to present much force to try to retake Crimea.
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At least 24 killed, 80 injured in 'worst' shelling of #Lugansk by Ukrainian forces [link to on.rt.com]
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Ukraine is broke. When Yatsenyuk resigned a few day ago, he said there is no money to pay civil servants or the army, or for the fuel to move the army. Even though they are forcing conscription, there is no money to pay the new soldiers. Wars are expensive, and Ukraine is now flat broke.

IMO, the ukraine army is being worn down in the East, so they will not be able to present much force to try to retake Crimea.
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How the hell are they still fighting and contemplating more fighting if they are broke and can't pay the army?





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