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The militia captured the most powerful self-propelled guns, "Peony" in the APU, now they protect Donetsk. - Givi
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Bullshit ! They were brought by Russia like other armament and troops.



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You sure?

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The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).
No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it:
Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms.
It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people.
That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
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Rebels Suffer Heavy Losses in Battle for Ukraine's Debaltseve
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pferd Oh my gawd... US MSM says it REALLY happened!!!
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Ukrainians did it with Turks then why not do it with Russian soldiers now ?
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In addition to Lenin fall Russian embassies all across Ukraine must be burned down
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In addition to Lenin fall Russian embassies all across Ukraine must be burned down
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They should. And Soviet statues should have been destroyed long ago.
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Ukrainians did it with Turks then why not do it with Russian soldiers now ?
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Actually let me jump in and give historic perspective on the habit of impaling & beheading Ottomans...

Little is it known today, that this was actually the Ottomans [Turks] favorite "pasttime", to impale their enemies. They did so extensively with Serbs f.ex.

Then, when they once again went on a raid thru Europe a Hungarian WARLOARD stopped them - his name was VLAD DRACUL

Guess what, he realized the only language the Ottomans really speak is that of violence, so he adapted to their customes and IMPALED TENS OF THOUSANDS OF OTTOMAN SOLDIERS and then decorated the streets of Romania with their corpses.

Croats and Hungarians also defeated the OTTOMANS on mutliple occasions... and EUROPE is actually deeply indebted to them for otherwise all those fukkers in Vienna and beyond would be Muslimes today..

So yes, SLAV PEOPLE DEAL WITH THEIR ENEMIES APPROPRIATLY.

Eye for eye... and yes it works....

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In addition to Lenin fall Russian embassies all across Ukraine must be burned down
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I hope they do it. Would make a nice provocation and casus belli.
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Ukrainians did it with Turks then why not do it with Russian soldiers now ?
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 Quoting: PorkyWaltzman


Hm. Ok. Did they forget that Cossacs were fighting Ottoman Empire as a part of army of Russian Empire most of the time?.. Well, whatever.

On this I just ought to answer with the collection of portrayals of Cossacs in Europe.
[link to novorus.info]

[link to novorus.info] is the best IMO.
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Oh, those Kremlinbots ! "Rebels" may hope only to become a food for fishes in Dnieper.

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Why don´t you go fighting, you hero of the ukraine?
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hmm

that can only mean one thing. she's an ukrainian woman! be nice maybe she'll log in and stay around clinton no
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I am not a woman, but do you really believe I will report about myself to every Kremlinbot ? Either go 3-5 thousand posts back or pizduyte oba nahuy.
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you have to login first. dont expect me to remeber ac from 5000p back.
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How the Israel Lobby Protected Ukrainian Neo-Nazis

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LMAO! I tried to post this here like 4 times..

Redicilous! However REALLY good article on how Rep. John Conyers wanted to block U.S. funding to neo-Nazis in Ukraine. But the ADL and Simon Wiesenthal Center refused to help.

Just copypaste the link and delete spaces to read...
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Got a half day ban for accidently posting a "wrong" link. Wish to know which ones are not allowed. Does anybody know them, are they listed anywhere?
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Not Listed. For reasons. List is expanding. Research, it's not that difficult once you get started, even though your confidence in this place and your work here might get a smash in the face.

Shit Happens, and it is actually not that bad, once you learn to navigate.

Welcome in the machine.

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I've tried to find some "easy to read"statistic of the Russian im-/exports regarding the products (food, oil, gas, steel, machinery ...) evtl. comparing the last two years. Is there any?
The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).
No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it:
Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms.
It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people.
That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
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Civilians Killed In Eastern Ukraine / Deadly Shell Strike As Ukrainians Queue For Aid

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Shelling by Ukraine. It was even on CNN.
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Shelling by Ukraine. It was even on CNN.
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No it was shelling by Russians.
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Shelling by Ukraine. It was even on CNN.
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No it was shelling by Russians.
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Ukrainians did it with Turks then why not do it with Russian soldiers now ?
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 Quoting: PorkyWaltzman


Hm. Ok. Did they forget that Cossacs were fighting Ottoman Empire as a part of army of Russian Empire most of the time?.. Well, whatever.

On this I just ought to answer with the collection of portrayals of Cossacs in Europe.
[link to novorus.info]

[link to novorus.info] is the best IMO.
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People don't know... but Turks did beheadings until pretty recently....

last time during Armenian Genocide:

[link to www.mindserpent.com]


The "only language" Turks understand is that of Cruelty, if one prooves to be "worse then them", they give up and leave...

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Yes.

I speculated that Kerry's visit to Moscow is going to be negotiations for surrender of the Ukies as the US and EU know they are facing total defeat soon.
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How do you know this? Speculation means nothing. You will not know until it happens.

In regards to fighting, I don't see anyone giving up yet. And, what makes people think that the US and EU are just going to throw their hands up and walk away?

Furthermore, unless you are in the world of intelligence organizations, you have absolutely no idea why this movement was started in the first place. Everyone is always talking about the Illuminati or some secret black hand manipulating geo-politics; however, they never stop to think that maybe actions are taken for reasons that are not always so sinister.

The facts are that Russia has annexed a sovereign portion of a neighboring country. Rebels are fighting in that same country against a government that came to power after a coupe. The rebels feel that the new government does not represent them. The rebels are appealing to Russia since they identify more with Russia and the current government is appealing to the EU.

Who has invaded the country of Ukraine? The answer is Russia. Not the US or EU or NATO or any other country. Russia has violated the sovereign territory of its neighboring country by some misplaced feeling of Russian nationalism. This is very evident in Mr. Putin's rhetoric when he addresses the Ukrainian question.

If Mr. Putin believes that this is some sort of conspiracy, then why does he not take it to the UN. All other nations of the world use that venue to argue their stance and resolutions are voted. Action is then legally granted by all who participate. Russia enjoys a very powerful position on the UNSC as well. If Mr. Putin cannot do this, then he is only painting himself as a villain and quite frankly he looks like one as well by his actions.

Common sense has escaped the minds of people commenting on this conflict. They have picked sides not based on fact but only by their feelings alone. Tragic are the circumstances of those on the ground, but such things will occur when bullets begin to fly.
 Quoting: The Truth. 36429740


Who has invaded the country of Ukraine? The answer is Russia. Not the US or EU or NATO or any other country.

So what's the difference between Russia invading Crimea and the US invading Iraq? Other than the taking over of Crimea was essentially bloodless?
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UN Resolutions that already supported actions against Iraq. Iraq had violated the established UN resolutions on multiple occasions. The US and allies did not need a new resolution to take action. That is what made some countries angry but in the end the decisions were finalized legally.

Big difference. The Russia has never went to the UNSC and put forth a resolution to mandate the annexing of Crimea. Purely a unilateral invasion by Putin. In contrast to Iraq, over 20 countries participated.
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Yeah, because of "evidence", the same evidence that the USA always has. Decisions were finalized legally? Will you whine much when other's "decisions were finalized legally"? We know enough from history who twists the truth around until it fits. And whose tool the UN is enough people are aware of too.
The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).
No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it:
Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms.
It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people.
That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
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Yes.

I speculated that Kerry's visit to Moscow is going to be negotiations for surrender of the Ukies as the US and EU know they are facing total defeat soon.
 Quoting: PIR



How do you know this? Speculation means nothing. You will not know until it happens.

In regards to fighting, I don't see anyone giving up yet. And, what makes people think that the US and EU are just going to throw their hands up and walk away?

Furthermore, unless you are in the world of intelligence organizations, you have absolutely no idea why this movement was started in the first place. Everyone is always talking about the Illuminati or some secret black hand manipulating geo-politics; however, they never stop to think that maybe actions are taken for reasons that are not always so sinister.

The facts are that Russia has annexed a sovereign portion of a neighboring country. Rebels are fighting in that same country against a government that came to power after a coupe. The rebels feel that the new government does not represent them. The rebels are appealing to Russia since they identify more with Russia and the current government is appealing to the EU.

Who has invaded the country of Ukraine? The answer is Russia. Not the US or EU or NATO or any other country. Russia has violated the sovereign territory of its neighboring country by some misplaced feeling of Russian nationalism. This is very evident in Mr. Putin's rhetoric when he addresses the Ukrainian question.

If Mr. Putin believes that this is some sort of conspiracy, then why does he not take it to the UN. All other nations of the world use that venue to argue their stance and resolutions are voted. Action is then legally granted by all who participate. Russia enjoys a very powerful position on the UNSC as well. If Mr. Putin cannot do this, then he is only painting himself as a villain and quite frankly he looks like one as well by his actions.

Common sense has escaped the minds of people commenting on this conflict. They have picked sides not based on fact but only by their feelings alone. Tragic are the circumstances of those on the ground, but such things will occur when bullets begin to fly.
 Quoting: The Truth. 36429740


Bullshit.

The people of Crimea voted to leave Ukraine and join with Russia.

Truth you say?

Here is the TRUTH!

Crimea votes to join Russia: 96.77% say YES



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 Quoting: PIR



So then why did Russia annex Crimea? Why is it under Russian rule? If Crimea wanted to leave Ukraine why is it not under its own sovereign rule?

You trust RT? Good for you.
 Quoting: The Truth. 36429740


Because the Crimeans voted for it. Did you never hear about a region wants to join a country instead of being under sovereign rule? You think that has never happened before?
The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).
No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it:
Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms.
It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people.
That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
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Ukrainians did it with Turks then why not do it with Russian soldiers now ?
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Hm. Ok. Did they forget that Cossacs were fighting Ottoman Empire as a part of army of Russian Empire most of the time?.. Well, whatever.

On this I just ought to answer with the collection of portrayals of Cossacs in Europe.
[link to novorus.info]

[link to novorus.info] is the best IMO.
 Quoting: Tamonten


People don't know... but Turks did beheadings until pretty recently....

last time during Armenian Genocide:

[link to www.mindserpent.com]


The "only language" Turks understand is that of Cruelty, if one prooves to be "worse then them", they give up and leave...
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So, have you read "The Forty Days of Musa Dagh" by Franz Werfel?? (Die vierzig Tage des Musa Dagh)

Read it myself as a teenager, and it really changed my world view.

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Hey look you miserable CUNTS, giving me reds because I disagree with your worldview is:

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Militia convoy in Molodohvardijsk. video published by Ukrainian source so it is 2 times same footage, they probably tried to make the convoy bigger...


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"Kremlinbot"; "Russian shill"; "Go choke on Trayvon's cock"

Hey look you miserable CUNTS, giving me reds because I disagree with your worldview is:

Bär2 not gonna stop me.. PUSSIES!
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"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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Hey look you miserable CUNTS, giving me reds because I disagree with your worldview is:

:Bär2: not gonna stop me.. PUSSIES!
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You are welcome to use the linked picture whenever you want, to state a point (or two).
This guy was my favorite model in 2009.

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Well, I was not correct enough. I meant Dugin-like successor, representative of real hard line. Hypothetical owerthrown of Putin will be result of that he will be considered as too weak, not too harsh imo. So after weak leader there will be strong leader. In short imaginations of some Euro-hippie LGBT friendly NATO bootlicking a-hole as successor of Putin are just naive.
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Well, yeah.
Leontyev speculated several times that the main thing that current "liberal creative opposition" does not understand is that the only form of government in Russia that would allow them to exist is the current "bloody regime" as they call it.
Truly "liberal" (i.e. leaded by them) government will not survive a year. And after that something as kind and humane as "wartime communism" of Civil War times will follow. With roughly the same results.

I'll quote the century-old Durnovo memorandum. About the result of the upcoming WW1 (written half a year before its beginning, february 1914):
If the war ends in victory, the putting down of the Socialist movement will not offer any insurmountable obstacles. There will be agrarian troubles, as a result of agitation for compensating the soldiers with additional land allotments; there will be labor troubles during the transition from the probably increased wages of war time to normal schedules; and this, it is to be hoped, will be all, so long as the wave of the German social revolution has not reached us. But in the event of defeat, the possibility of which in a struggle with a foe like Germany cannot be overlooked, social revolution in its most extreme form is inevitable.
As has already been said, the trouble will start with the blaming of the Government for all disasters. In the legislative institutions a bitter campaign against the Government will begin, followed by revolutionary agitations throughout the country, with Socialist slogans, capable of arousing and rallying the masses, beginning with the division of the land and succeeded by a division of all valuables and property.
The defeated army, having lost its most dependable men, and carried away by the tide of primitive peasant desire for land, will find itself too demoralized to serve as a bulwark of law and order. The legislative institutions and the intellectual opposition parties, lacking real authority in the eyes of the people, will be powerless to stem the popular tide, aroused by themselves, and Russia will be flung into hopeless anarchy, the issue of which cannot be foreseen.

 Quoting: Tamonten


Wow, he wrote that before the 28th June 1914. That shows that the "history" we are fed with here in the west is clearly some kind of fairy tale. Maybe Sarajevo was some kind of false flag event too?

I hope to find that text in German language, would be a bit easier to read and share.
 Quoting: Böze_Tante


I made a quick search - and didn't find information on this memorandum on German page about Durnovo.

Sarajevo clearly was a provocation. By that time a war was already unevitable. All the both sides (Germany and Britain of that time) needed was some pretext to open hostilities.
The main thing here is that former Interior Minister Durnovo was against union with Britain. He was pro-German, always claiming that Russia doesn't have unsolvable disputes with Germany. He was bitter that short-term economical benefits of union with Britain are were becoming more important then centuries-old good terms with Germany.
 Quoting: Tamonten


Not long ago I learned that the German dimwits thought to be cleverer than Bismarck who always renewed the good relationships with Russia. And especially "Kaiser Wilhelm" had obviously no clue about politics.
The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).
No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it:
Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms.
It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people.
That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.





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