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Moldova already signed the association agreement last year. It now needs to be ratified by parliament. AP didn't get the story right.
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who asked US what they want i mean.
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Romania asked them.
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Romania asked USA what Moldova wants and then USA has answered through AP website.
I see. Makes sense.
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You're not making any sense.
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In Moscow, offering dialogue on EU and U.S. federalization of Ukraine

30.03.2014 | 15:48

Moscow offers in cooperation with the U.S. and the EU to formulate a universal appeal to Kyiv to initiate a national dialogue, the outcome of which will be a new constitution that "guarantees federal system of Ukraine."

The Minister of Foreign Affairs Sergey Lavrov in an interview with the program "Vremya Voskresnoe" Ukrainian Pravda wrote.

Lavrov said that such dialogue is proposed to involve all political forces, without exception, but "certainly not armed radicals."

According to Lavrov, the outcome of these negotiations is to become the new Constitution of Ukraine "will ensure the federal system, confirm and consolidate the non-aligned organization that ensures the rights of all who live in Ukraine."

The head of the Russian Foreign Ministry stressed the need to make every region of Ukraine had an opportunity to choose their leadership, the legislature and governor.

"In practice, the unitary state in Ukraine is not working. After each election, the president is changing the constitution - then make its pro-presidential, the proparlamentskoyu, the pro-government. Leapfrog This can not last long", - said Lavrov.

Federalization, in his opinion, the way to ensure that every region felt "comfortable, felt that his rights are secured.

"We are ready in terms of the guarantees which external actors could give Ukrainian after such changes reformovyh" - said the diplomat.
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Russia is getting slaughtered with sanctions...

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oh really? you must know more than the rest of the world. the EU cannot AFFORD to slaughter russia with economic sanctions. Ask Angela Merkel if you don't believe that.
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1 Euro = 49 Rubels
1 Euro = 17 pesos

Just to put it in perspective how bad Russia's economy already is... Mexico's peso is almost three times the amount.
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Damn. I didn't realize the forex rates are telling this much about the economy of a country. Norway is in the shitter too it seems.. 1 USD = 6 NOK .. And Japan is totally fucked with it's 1:103 rate.
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epic lol
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The situation in Ukraine to discuss the UN Security Council. The meeting is scheduled for tomorrow, its initiators were Ukraine and Lithuania.

The meeting will be open. Take part in it will not only representatives of the member Security Council, but also non-governmental organizations and public figures. In particular, the meeting invited the leader of the Crimean Tatar people Mustafa Dzhemileva.
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who asked US what they want i mean.
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Romania asked them.
 Quoting: Polemarchos


Romania asked USA what Moldova wants and then USA has answered through AP website.
I see. Makes sense.
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You're not making any sense.
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Yeah, lol. I mean Romania asked what USA wants and they responded that they want European future for Moldova. Which doesn't make any sense at all.
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Peskov: dialogue of the President and Chancellor of Germany in Ukraine the situation around "weight in gold"

Policy 30 марта, 19:13 UTC +4

BERLIN, March 30. / Itar-Tass Vyacheslav Filippov /. Contact President Vladimir Putin and Chancellor Angela Merkel in a situation like the crisis around Ukraine - "its weight in gold." It said the spokesman of the Russian president, Dmitry Peskov, in an interview with the second channel of German public-law television ZDF.

"Role (Merkel) is large enough, taking into account the constructive and frank enough relationship with Vladimir Putin - said Peskov. - Since the beginning of the crisis (in the Ukraine) both support the ongoing dialogue, and these frequent contacts allow at least closer positions." "In such critical situations such contacts its weight in gold - continued presidential press secretary of the Russian Federation. - It's no secret that the positions on the Ukrainian crisis differ greatly, but the dialogue itself is extremely useful, and we hope that this dialogue will continue" .

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@EuromaidanPR: BREAKING: #Russian troops looting #Ukrainian military bases & loading their cars [link to t.co] |PR #Crimea [link to t.co]
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Romania asked them.
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Romania asked USA what Moldova wants and then USA has answered through AP website.
I see. Makes sense.
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You're not making any sense.
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Yeah, lol. I mean Romania asked what USA wants and they responded that they want European future for Moldova. Which doesn't make any sense at all.
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Why not? Moldova belongs where Romania is. Do you have a history book? Look it up.
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1 Euro = 49 Rubels
1 Euro = 17 pesos

Just to put it in perspective how bad Russia's economy already is... Mexico's peso is almost three times the amount.
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i never said russia has a strong economy. i said the EU and especially germany can't afford to slaughter russia with sanctions. they're way too dependent on their oil and gas. do your research.
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I have... [link to www.bruegel.org]

It's through my research and how Putin is acting right now ... Reading Russian financial ministers past and present telling everyone how much Crimea has cost Russia.

My opinion is informed and I started off believing Russia had the upper hand but as the weeks have gone by I have watched the power shift back to the West.

The West has lost nothing... Crimea really is pointless
[link to rt.com]
Crimea has certain problems - a lack of energy, and more dangerously, freshwater resources. The republic's annual GDP is only $4.3 billion - 500 times smaller than the size of Russia’s $2 trillion economy

At the same time... Russia has lost billions of dollars and political influence.

Russia is now losing from where I'm sitting and the longer Purin sits on his hands makes him look more like a joke
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Crimea really is pointless? lmao

Now it is to those that couldn't stop Putin.
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I wouldn't call their only warm water port and access to the black sea and the Mediterranean "pointless". Hardly.
I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you.



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Romania asked USA what Moldova wants and then USA has answered through AP website.
I see. Makes sense.
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You're not making any sense.
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Yeah, lol. I mean Romania asked what USA wants and they responded that they want European future for Moldova. Which doesn't make any sense at all.
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Why not? Moldova belongs where Romania is. Do you have a history book? Look it up.
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2 different countries currently. Sorry to disappoint you.
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Dmitry Tymchuk: "Russia planning invasion across entire eastern Ukraine front, from Chernihiv to Donetsk."

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Dmitry Tymchuk served in the Army air defense from 1995-1998, the National Guard from 1998-2000 and in the Defense Ministry in subsequent years on missions to Iraq, Lebanon and Kosovo. His blogs are translated into English by Voices of Ukraine.

[link to www.kyivpost.com]
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The simple fact of the matter is that Putin would not even be thinking of invading Ukraine had the West not funded and supported the violent, unconstitutional overthrow of the legitimate, democratically-elected President of Ukraine - Yanukovych.

Putin now has no other choice but to secure Ukraine and perhaps other compromised nations in the region thanks to the West's meddling in their affairs.

There is absolutely no way in hell Putin will allow the current bunch of criminals that now are in control of Kiev (people who are much more corrupt and violent than Yanukovych ever was alleged to have been) to remain there in power on Russia's doorstep. Not gonna happen.

The West is going to get the War it so desperately wants for some sick, strange reason.
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Not disagreeing with you about the west meddling in things but Ukraine is an INDEPENDENT republic. They are no longer Russian territory and haven't been since 1991. Whether or not Russia approves of their government is not Putin's right to dictate.

Why, to use the reasoning that their current government would be detrimental to Russian interests as an excuse to invade would smell of REGIME CHANGE wouldn't it? Something Putin himself has been accusing the west of doing and calling it WRONG.

Regardless of who is doing what, (personally I think they all have their hands dirty), it seems a case of 'Do as I say, not as I do' and more than a little hypocritical.
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:lookie here:

It would not be "regime change" if Putin invades Ukraine for the simple reason that there is not a legitimate regime in Kiev at the moment.

It was the West who initiated this conflict by violently and unconstitutionally deposing Yanukovych who is still the legitimate President of Ukraine.

Try again, you Neocon shill.
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You're not making any sense.
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Yeah, lol. I mean Romania asked what USA wants and they responded that they want European future for Moldova. Which doesn't make any sense at all.
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Why not? Moldova belongs where Romania is. Do you have a history book? Look it up.
 Quoting: Polemarchos

2 different countries currently. Sorry to disappoint you.
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So? Moldova can be where we are and remain a different country. Sorry to disappoint you. Where we are - meaning EU and NATO.
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Yeah, lol. I mean Romania asked what USA wants and they responded that they want European future for Moldova. Which doesn't make any sense at all.
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Why not? Moldova belongs where Romania is. Do you have a history book? Look it up.
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2 different countries currently. Sorry to disappoint you.
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So? Moldova can be where we are and remain a different country. Sorry to disappoint you. Where we are - meaning EU and NATO.
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Can be and can be NOT. You don't decide. Sorry to disappoint you again.
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Why not? Moldova belongs where Romania is. Do you have a history book? Look it up.
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2 different countries currently. Sorry to disappoint you.
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So? Moldova can be where we are and remain a different country. Sorry to disappoint you. Where we are - meaning EU and NATO.
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Can be and can be NOT. You don't decide. Sorry to disappoint you again.
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No, Moldova will decide. And we will help her if needed. Sorry to disappoint you again.
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2 different countries currently. Sorry to disappoint you.
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So? Moldova can be where we are and remain a different country. Sorry to disappoint you. Where we are - meaning EU and NATO.
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Can be and can be NOT. You don't decide. Sorry to disappoint you again.
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No, Moldova will decide. And we will help her if needed. Sorry to disappoint you again.
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Yeah, ok. Help her then.

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#Ukraine is trending - everyone trying to their propaganda out there.
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Russia on Saturday ended a massive three day nuclear war exercise involving 10,000 soldiers, as the worst East-West standoff since the Cold War continues.

The drill, which utilised over 30 military units and 1000 pieces of equipment, was to ensure that Russia’s Strategic Missile Forces are prepared to conduct offensive operations in the event of a massive and simultaneous international use of nuclear weapons. [link to www.independent.co.uk]
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an exercise drill with 10k soldiers is different from a presumed troop buildup of 100k soldiers as reported in the msm press. where is the proof for those 100k? int'l observer flights haven't seen any of them.
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It looks like somebody actually found those troops!
[link to www.turnerradionetwork.com]
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Yeah, ok. Help her then.

popcorn
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We already are. Who is Bulgaria helping?
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Russia on Saturday ended a massive three day nuclear war exercise involving 10,000 soldiers, as the worst East-West standoff since the Cold War continues.

The drill, which utilised over 30 military units and 1000 pieces of equipment, was to ensure that Russia’s Strategic Missile Forces are prepared to conduct offensive operations in the event of a massive and simultaneous international use of nuclear weapons. [link to www.independent.co.uk]
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an exercise drill with 10k soldiers is different from a presumed troop buildup of 100k soldiers as reported in the msm press. where is the proof for those 100k? int'l observer flights haven't seen any of them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44670955





It looks like somebody actually found those troops!
[link to www.turnerradionetwork.com]
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cool. i was expecting more footage of the huge russian training exercises. did they even happen?
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Yeah, ok. Help her then.

popcorn
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We already are. Who is Bulgaria helping?
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The Zionists.
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"To take voluntarily became a part of Russia the Crimea, the warlocks of the U.S. and NATO call to Earth holding magic diabolical cosmic invaders. Enemy crafty, strong, but it expects a fitting rebuff."

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A day after Russian President Vladimir Putin phoned his US counterpart and they agreed to discuss their differences on Ukraine, Secretary of State John Kerry rescheduled his return home to meet Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov in Paris later Sunday. The minister repeated Putin’s statement that Russia while concentrating troops on their common border had no intention of invading Ukraine at this time.

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Yeah, ok. Help her then.

popcorn
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We already are. Who is Bulgaria helping?
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The Zionists.
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Zionists control both sides, as usual.

But there's a way to stop this, by releasing the souls controlled by those warlords IN ADVANCE.

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@BSpringnote: Turkish air cancels flights to Crimea until 17 June due to the politicial situation on the peninsula
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BBC Breaking News &#8207;@BBCBreaking · 29m
Ukraine denounces Russian foreign minister's call for neutral and federal Ukraine as demand for "full capitulation" [link to bbc.in]
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AM I the first one to say about Yellowstone quake? Yes I see there is another thread with 9 pages already. But why not to reflect for a moment here, if Yellowstone explodes even small scale, no nukes will be fired either. [link to rt.com]
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BBC Breaking News &#8207;@BBCBreaking · 29m
Ukraine denounces Russian foreign minister's call for neutral and federal Ukraine as demand for "full capitulation" [link to bbc.in]
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we remember what the term "full capitulation" meant for Nazi Germany, coined by the 3 big on their meetings that divided the world into spheres of influence. Germany had to surrender unconditionally to both sides, not only to one of them. As it finally did.

Oh, but it is Ukraine who names the requirement to be as full capitulation, not Russia! Is it an error in translation???
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Fascinating! ceegar
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During the 1st week only 20.000 persons requested a new passport.
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first week of 2008?
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No war, I pray.
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i never said russia has a strong economy. i said the EU and especially germany can't afford to slaughter russia with sanctions. they're way too dependent on their oil and gas. do your research.
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I have... [link to www.bruegel.org]

It's through my research and how Putin is acting right now ... Reading Russian financial ministers past and present telling everyone how much Crimea has cost Russia.

My opinion is informed and I started off believing Russia had the upper hand but as the weeks have gone by I have watched the power shift back to the West.

The West has lost nothing... Crimea really is pointless
[link to rt.com]
Crimea has certain problems - a lack of energy, and more dangerously, freshwater resources. The republic's annual GDP is only $4.3 billion - 500 times smaller than the size of Russia’s $2 trillion economy

At the same time... Russia has lost billions of dollars and political influence.

Russia is now losing from where I'm sitting and the longer Purin sits on his hands makes him look more like a joke
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Crimea really is pointless? lmao

Now it is to those that couldn't stop Putin.
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I wouldn't call their only warm water port and access to the black sea and the Mediterranean "pointless". Hardly.
 Quoting: Ozarkian


I don't understand how that port helps the west/USA at all... I'm sure Ukraine is sad that it lost its port.

Think USA cares about an area that has a GDP of 4 billion? Fed prints that in minutes lol
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Putin’s spokesman: dialogue with Merkel amidst Ukrainian crisis “worth its weight in gold”

Russia March 30, 19:57 UTC+4

Interaction between state figures, in his words, stems from the interests of their countries, since each of them seeks to defend the positions of his or her state

BERLIN, March 30, /ITAR-TASS/. Contacts between Russian President Vladimir Putin and German Chancellor Angela Merkel in a situation like the crisis around Ukraine are “worth their weight in gold,” Russian president’s press secretary Dmitry Peskov said on Sunday in an interview with Germany’s public-service television broadcaster ZDF.

“Merkel’s role is rather big, taking into account the constructive and rather open relations with Vladimir Putin,” he said. “Since the very beginning of the crisis, the two [leaders\ have been maintaining constant dialogue, and such frequent contacts make it possible at least to bring their positions closer. In such acute situation, such contacts are worth their weight in gold. It is a secret to no one that the positions on the Ukrainian crisis are different but the dialogue is extremely useful and we hope this dialogue will be continued.”

Peskov characterized this dialogue as “constructive on the one hand, but rather difficult on the other hand.” Interaction between state figures, in his words, stems from the interests of their countries, since each of them seeks to defend the positions of his or her state.

When asked whether the Russian president was ready to meet with the German chancellor, Peskov noted, “We do not know as of yet.” “Previous plans provided for contacts in various formats, currently talks are underway at the expert level,” he said, adding that the Russian side wanted to continue the direct dialogue. “As it was said during a meeting with Siemens CEO Joe Kaeser, it is better to speak to each other than to speak about each other,” Peskov stressed.
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isn't it strange and even suspicious that big significance exactly on Merkel that didn't make enough visible progress in her rule for so many years, except for Germany alone? She is the contrast of the leftist Schroeder. What is the Russian interest here? First of all I don't believe Putin even before I don't believe Merkel. But that doesn't mean the both don't have common interests. History repeats.





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