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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56915310 Croatia 04/16/2014 12:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56915310 We in Croatia heard about those minorities. We even had their "People's Republic" declared on our territory. We also sorted that shit out legally and lawfully. It was stormy weather for a while. I think you are from Russia and I wonder what your reaction would be if some minority declares "People's Republic" in Russian Federation? Someone like Chechens, for an example? i know the croatian history with minorities, you guys have handled that quite well. after all, you were a minority yourself back then in yugoslavia... sorry bud, i am not from russia so i can't really answer that from a russian perspective. i am from a european country and try to take a neutral point of view. most of the public in europe can see through the propaganda lies nowadays. my take is the russians should also sort such attempts out legally and lawfully if they do happen, and allow the minorities the autonomy they desire. but i wouldn't bet on them actually doing that. Yugoslavia was like USSR or today's EU. It's like saying that France is minority in EU or that Kazakstan was minority in USSR. So you not from Russia? Fine. Just substitute "Russia" for a name of a country you are from and than tell me about your reaction on formation of "People's Republic" on territory of your country. because you ain't hypocrite, ain't you? any country including mine should sort such attempts out legally and lawfully according to its constitution, and allow the minorities the autonomy they desire, after holding a proper vote on it in the affected regions. there are actually "separatist" tendencies in many western european regions, too. they should all be dealt with legally and those people should be allowed to vote on it. generally it makes no sense to hold someone/some group back with force who wants absolutely to leave. it will only provoke further adverse reactions. i'm sure as a croatian you like football - does it make sense for a club to hold on to a player if he really badly wants to go elsewhere? Ukraine is a special situation though due to the coup that happened and the various foreign interests at play. as far as i understand many of the "pro-russian" folks there don't necessarily want to join russia, but they don't want to be ruled by kyiv either (and certainly not by svoboda nazis). they want much more autonomy in a federal state. It seems that you did not have experience with "People's Republics" in your country. Which means that I am more competent to talk about it than you are. And I say that this is not about "leaving" but about Russian territorial expansion. They are trying to grab not what's theirs but as much as they think they can get away with. And, more importantly, Ukrainian Russians would never ever do that without Putin's assistance. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25249790 United States 04/16/2014 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Retweeted by GrahamWPhillips Rasmus Tantholdt TV2 ‏@RasmusTantholdt 9m Around 100 #Ukrainian soldiers are voluntarily being disarmed right now in #Kramatorsk. #Ukraine. I suggest they give up the east and pull all their loyal soldiers back to defend Kiev.....they're going to need them eventually. |
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User ID: 18308887 United Kingdom 04/16/2014 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Putin tells Netanyahu that Kiev regime is to blame for escalations in eastern Ukraine; both agree to cooperation on issues of mutual interest. Quoting: Whoami Ynetnews Published: 04.16.14, 17:07 / Israel News Reportedly on Netanyahu's request, the two leaders discussed the situation in Ukraine, which Israeli politicians have been steering clear of, concerned possible security threats could arise if relations with Moscow were to suffer. Two days ago, US State Department Spokesperson Jen Psaki said the US was “surprised” that Israel failed to support a UN vote hled earlier March in wake of Russia’s annexation of Crimea. "We were surprised that Israel did not join the vast majority of countries that voted to support Ukraine’s territorial integrity in the United Nations," she said. In their phonecall, Putin gave Netenyahu his analysis on the situation, blaming the deteriorating security condition in eastern Ukraine on the irresponsibility by the Kiev government, with whom Russia has locked horns in recent months. Israel is siding closer to Russia |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 54888721 Bulgaria 04/16/2014 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Retweeted by GrahamWPhillips Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25249790 Rasmus Tantholdt TV2 ‏@RasmusTantholdt 9m Around 100 #Ukrainian soldiers are voluntarily being disarmed right now in #Kramatorsk. #Ukraine. I suggest they give up the east and pull all their loyal soldiers back to defend Kiev.....they're going to need them eventually. I'd say they sent the best they could find. Other than the Right sector. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56922445 Singapore 04/16/2014 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Hahaha....biggest disaster ever for US foreign intervention policy and the Oligarchs of the USA Fuck Barry, Fuck Nuland, Fuck the CIA and the whole US Junta. haha, now give the command to storm the Bundy Ranch...and then...bump for Regime Change in the USA. |
glojx User ID: 46676815 United States 04/16/2014 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 I think since ukraine troops have no mlrale to fight their brothers cia new plan will be to get the radical nationalist Ukrainians to storm the govt and take over they will declare war on pro russian troops then russia will bring the army and a full scale war will brake out.either way the powers that be want war they tried by sending troops thinking theyll kill some civilians in slavyanks then get russia rolling in .both sides are working together turchinov,yatsanuk, putin all same zionist masonic shit with one goal to destroy the white race and bring in nwo. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56915310 Croatia 04/16/2014 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Myroslava Petsa @myroslavapetsa Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35104691 #Rada fails to adopt a bill on strengthening #Ukraine's defence capability. Only 208 MPs support, communists&party of regions give 0 votes The communist party and party of regions are sabotaging Ukraine in the name of Russia. They should all be arrested for treason. The communist party and party of regions will no longer allow themselves to be bullied by SVOBODA After all the shit Communist Party did to Ukraine and Ukrainians, holodomor included, they still legally exist. And that is a proof that Ukraine was never truly independent and that it's struggle for independence is just starting. How big independent Ukraine will be, or will it be at all is different question altogheter. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 648576 United States 04/16/2014 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Putin tells Netanyahu that Kiev regime is to blame for escalations in eastern Ukraine; both agree to cooperation on issues of mutual interest. Quoting: Whoami Ynetnews Published: 04.16.14, 17:07 / Israel News Reportedly on Netanyahu's request, the two leaders discussed the situation in Ukraine, which Israeli politicians have been steering clear of, concerned possible security threats could arise if relations with Moscow were to suffer. Two days ago, US State Department Spokesperson Jen Psaki said the US was “surprised” that Israel failed to support a UN vote hled earlier March in wake of Russia’s annexation of Crimea. "We were surprised that Israel did not join the vast majority of countries that voted to support Ukraine’s territorial integrity in the United Nations," she said. In their phonecall, Putin gave Netenyahu his analysis on the situation, blaming the deteriorating security condition in eastern Ukraine on the irresponsibility by the Kiev government, with whom Russia has locked horns in recent months. Israel is siding closer to Russia Interesting to note that when Israel was first founded, there was an assumption it would Communist and under the Soviet sphere of influence... |
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User ID: 18308887 United Kingdom 04/16/2014 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Putin tells Netanyahu that Kiev regime is to blame for escalations in eastern Ukraine; both agree to cooperation on issues of mutual interest. Quoting: Whoami Ynetnews Published: 04.16.14, 17:07 / Israel News Reportedly on Netanyahu's request, the two leaders discussed the situation in Ukraine, which Israeli politicians have been steering clear of, concerned possible security threats could arise if relations with Moscow were to suffer. Two days ago, US State Department Spokesperson Jen Psaki said the US was “surprised” that Israel failed to support a UN vote hled earlier March in wake of Russia’s annexation of Crimea. "We were surprised that Israel did not join the vast majority of countries that voted to support Ukraine’s territorial integrity in the United Nations," she said. In their phonecall, Putin gave Netenyahu his analysis on the situation, blaming the deteriorating security condition in eastern Ukraine on the irresponsibility by the Kiev government, with whom Russia has locked horns in recent months. Israel is siding closer to Russia Interesting to note that when Israel was first founded, there was an assumption it would Communist and under the Soviet sphere of influence... Russia has a Jewish republic too [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56809756 United Kingdom 04/16/2014 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 And this from one of URK .mil's supposedly more competent units: Quoting: Newshunter max seddon@maxseddon · 3m 25th Airborne commander in Pcholkino standing on an APC and calling command. "They've captured us and are using dirty tricks." Humiliating well not much you can do if Civi's are in front of you then Armed men appear if you ask me the units handled it well imagine if there was shooting that occurred ... They got given the green light the other day to shoot-kill if needed. The Ukraine will be laughed at like the french were for what they are doing. Just watch an the Pro-Russians backstab these defectors. Morales showed true here though would you shoot at unarmed Civi's because you got a green light to do so ? Its an awkward one as the Civi's were either in co-hoots with the armed men or they had no Idea they were planning anything but, Can you imagine the out cry if they had gunned down the armed men and the civi's were hit ? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54888721 Bulgaria 04/16/2014 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Putin tells Netanyahu that Kiev regime is to blame for escalations in eastern Ukraine; both agree to cooperation on issues of mutual interest. Quoting: Whoami Ynetnews Published: 04.16.14, 17:07 / Israel News Reportedly on Netanyahu's request, the two leaders discussed the situation in Ukraine, which Israeli politicians have been steering clear of, concerned possible security threats could arise if relations with Moscow were to suffer. Two days ago, US State Department Spokesperson Jen Psaki said the US was “surprised” that Israel failed to support a UN vote hled earlier March in wake of Russia’s annexation of Crimea. "We were surprised that Israel did not join the vast majority of countries that voted to support Ukraine’s territorial integrity in the United Nations," she said. In their phonecall, Putin gave Netenyahu his analysis on the situation, blaming the deteriorating security condition in eastern Ukraine on the irresponsibility by the Kiev government, with whom Russia has locked horns in recent months. Israel is siding closer to Russia Interesting to note that when Israel was first founded, there was an assumption it would Communist and under the Soviet sphere of influence... the biggest Jewish percent in today's Israel came from ex-USSR. They the old generation of that biggest group all know Russian (don't make referendum!) and have childhood memories from Motherland. Perhaps they don't have to choose between Russia and America. Russia and America have to choose to be on the side of God's people |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56915310 Croatia 04/16/2014 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Hahaha....biggest disaster ever for US foreign intervention policy and the Oligarchs of the USA Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56922445 Fuck Barry, Fuck Nuland, Fuck the CIA and the whole US Junta. haha, now give the command to storm the Bundy Ranch...and then...bump for Regime Change in the USA. Bigger than Iranian revolution? Bigger than Vietnam defeat? Hmmmmmm...you are full of it. Especially since this isn't exclusively american shit and that it is far from over. |
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User ID: 3478033 United States 04/16/2014 01:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 this whole Ukraine thing is one big disappointment. WTF, where is my doom. All talk and no action. End of the day, Putin is a fucken genius, and the kiev guys just a bunch of goofs. Quoting: The Nihilist I still remember in Crimea, when one Ukrainian got killed, those goof balls in Kiev were shouting war crimes. Wtf, so being killed in a war is a war crime......too much for me, I need a smoke.....later you ever been to war ? Yep... I think all of these idiots who are pushing for WWIII should be put on the front lines and kept there. I guarantee they'd be crying like babies in the face of their own mortality. Then.... we should move their entire families into the war zone. Let them worry night and day about the safety of their own. War is HELL.... innocent people die.... families suffer. I respect Putin for not pushing the war. Too bad the banksters and brain-dead want violence and death. "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." ~ Albert Einstein |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56922758 Netherlands 04/16/2014 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Yatsenyuk's grand, solution to all problem anti terror op has already become his greatest failure merely a short day after it's start. And here i'm laughing my ass off. The Ukrainian army is too divided on the matter to make a fist of any kind. One soldier mentioned he'd rather fight for people who FEED him... That's just sad. I bet the realization that he controls nothing is slowly getting to him. With time he'll be ran out of town while Kiev becomes yet again a vigilantes' wet dream. If it isn't already. This country is so ***ed up. If the Eastern states wont rip the country apart it's debt/economic issues will. That and i doubt the people, including those looking to the EU will look forward to extreme austerity measures imposed by the government. |
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User ID: 22884594 United States 04/16/2014 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 @lucian_Kim: 300-450 #Russia special forces troops operating in east #Ukraine, says analyst Tymchuk. Another 300 spotted across border in Rostov region. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40663337 United States 04/16/2014 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 So many trolls and shills. Makes me lose hope for humanity with how stupid some of you are. It should be obvious by now that Ukraines revolution was a western backed coup. Or did you think all those people just quit their jobs and stopped feeding their families for months? I can guarentee the money didn't come from the corrupt oligarchs that have control of the government now, they are in the business of stealing money from their own people, not handing it out. So who provided the money and logistics for the coup to happen? But anyway i digress, the fact is maiden undertook a violent coup to secure power all while screaming bloody murder about the over use of force. The government did the right thing not using the military against its own people but now we have corrupt oligarchs in control. Then they condemn their fellow Ukrainians of Russian heritage for essentially doing the same thing they did but now all the sudden its okay for them to use military force to massacre civilians? What does it matter if Russia is supporting them? They have popular consent from the people in those regions, aka democracy in action. Dont you see the fucking hypocrisy of that? The west screams bloody murder if too much force is used against their side then they okay military operations against their opposition. Thank God Ukraines soldiers aren't as stupid as some of you or wed be lobbing nukes back and forth by now. If the troops arent willing to shoot their own people then that should explain the situation more than anything else. It means the oligarch new government is essentially criminal and stupid and the citizens of Ukraine dont even trust it. If they arent willing to fight against The Russia seperatists, what fucking right does the western world have to interfere and get involved? We have none, our leaders are insane and power hungry. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56922445 Singapore 04/16/2014 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Hahaha....biggest disaster ever for US foreign intervention policy and the Oligarchs of the USA Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56922445 Fuck Barry, Fuck Nuland, Fuck the CIA and the whole US Junta. haha, now give the command to storm the Bundy Ranch...and then...bump for Regime Change in the USA. Bigger than Iranian revolution? Bigger than Vietnam defeat? Hmmmmmm...you are full of it. Especially since this isn't exclusively american shit and that it is far from over. Yes bigger. Because it's the final and most blatant sign of the demise of the US Empire. It's over. It may take some decades until it will finally crash but this is the turning point. For everyone to see |
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