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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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They won't stop, on either side, you fool.

This is an orchestrated civil war unfolding, and the rioters are on US/EU payroll.

[link to www.paulcraigroberts.org]

Neocons like Victoria Nuland adn Mad Dog McCain are pushing for a coup in Ukraine, against Russia, and they don't give a fuck if it will cause a global nuclear war.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39407203


Now Snowden has handed over a list of EVERY paid employee of the US Gov and DoD.

If any of those people are found to match the provocateurs messing around in nations with Russian interests, that is evidence of acts of war against Russia.
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Oh. RT @RT_com: URGENT: Movement of Russian armored vehicles in Crimea fully complies w agreements - Foreign Ministry [link to on.rt.com]
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Oh. RT @RT_com: URGENT: Movement of Russian armored vehicles in Crimea fully complies w agreements - Foreign Ministry [link to on.rt.com]
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US provided cover for #euromaidan and is responsible for the chaos in Ukraine
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says ?
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Yanukovych, I assume lol.
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Oh. RT @RT_com: URGENT: Movement of Russian armored vehicles in Crimea fully complies w agreements - Foreign Ministry [link to on.rt.com]
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Are the same agreemenets that Yanukovich told about in his press conference.

It's fucking on.
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Hmm.
He didnt say a lot in that...a lot of politics.
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DOOM OFF, putin will no act, no WW3, NEXT...billclinton1
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I'm not so sure about doom off. I do think that Putin wants to expose who really set up this scenario. He wants to expose the bad guy...not BECOME the bad guy.
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YANUKOVYCH : RUSSIA MUST USE ALL MEANS TO STOP ALL THE CHAOS AND TERROR THAT IS IN UKRAINE.

YANUKOVYCH: HOW THEY WOULD DO IT, IS HARD FOR ME TO SAY.

YANUKOVYCH : I AM ABSOLUTELY AGAINST INVASION & OCCUPATION OF WHOLE UKRAINE
, I MEAN TO MAINTAIN IT'S STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY.

YANUKOVYCH: RUMORS OF RUSSIAN MILITARY ARE NOT CONFIRMED.


 Quoting: FunkY


said nothing about "part" of Ukraine, that's what was important about that statement
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In a nutshell, the government fell. Which effects the entire nation.

If a russian flag is dawned over Ukraine capitol, the entire nation has been taken over.
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US provided cover for #euromaidan and is responsible for the chaos in Ukraine

FACT
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YANUKOVYCH TO KIEV LEADERS : LEAVE NOW AND DON'T LET MORE VIOLENCE HAPPEN, THE UKRAINIAN PEOPOLE WON'T LIVE WITH YOU.
 Quoting: FunkY


Or what? Since he doesn't want Russian intervention (but believes that they would be right to do so lol) what threats can he give?
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he cannot openly ask for military intervention and to pretend to still be the president of the whole Ukraine.
Another point is he still stands behind the agreement of Feb 21. Theoretically, EU still can revert support if the new administration makes faults after faults. In other words, last chance for peace?
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Time to bring in the tomato plants, get the popcorn and some beer in!

I've got a feeling this weekend is going to be special!


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Oh. RT @RT_com: URGENT: Movement of Russian armored vehicles in Crimea fully complies w agreements - Foreign Ministry [link to on.rt.com]
 Quoting: < DL >


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54968753



Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances was a international treaty signed on Feburary, 5, 1994, in Budapest between Ukraine, USA, Russia, and Great Britain concerning nuclear disarmament of Ukraine and security assurances of her independence. According to the treaty Ukraine has abonded her nuclear arsenal to Russia, while Russia, USA, and Great Britian have promised (1) to respect Ukrainian independence and sovereignity within her borders; (2) to protect Ukraine from outer agression and not to conduct agression toward Ukraine; (3) not to put economic pressure on Ukraine in order to influence her politics; (4) not to use nuclear arms against Ukraine.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

fully complies w agreements
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Time to bring in the tomato plants, get the popcorn and some beer in!

I've got a feeling this weekend is going to be special!



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Time to bring in the tomato plants, get the popcorn and some beer in!

I've got a feeling this weekend is going to be special!



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It's gonna get tight y'all!
That is assured. Peace, where do you see peace? I see it behind 7 seas, where the Kiev opposition government gives up. We all know that won't happen.
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If you want to start prospering and growing stronger,start focusing on supporting others.

If you want to start prospering and growing stronger, focus on supporting others where you can. Give to others that cross YOUR PATH and you soon discover you will be given more. The 5th Dimension principal of harmony means that you will always have an abundance to do a good work.
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Oh. RT @RT_com: URGENT: Movement of Russian armored vehicles in Crimea fully complies w agreements - Foreign Ministry [link to on.rt.com]
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Are the same agreemenets that Yanukovich told about in his press conference.

It's fucking on.
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DOOM OFF, putin will no act, no WW3, NEXT...billclinton1
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I'm not so sure about doom off. I do think that Putin wants to expose who really set up this scenario. He wants to expose the bad guy...not BECOME the bad guy.
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Putin already IS the bad guy, the one using polonium or mafia to kill.
Always was
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US provided cover for #euromaidan and is responsible for the chaos in Ukraine

FACT
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Which means Russia will consider the US responsible for the outcome. If any WMD's are used, by rebels or sovereign nation, Russia may be forced to retaliate or loose political influence in the region.

I am a US Citizen, and I am against covert operations designed to conquer nations.

I do not support illegal actions by my government.
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Don't give up your arms people. Or you will end up in trench. Just saying....spock
Edit to add..and I know its hard truth. Die free or live as slaves.

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YANUKOVYCH TO KIEV LEADERS : LEAVE NOW AND DON'T LET MORE VIOLENCE HAPPEN, THE UKRAINIAN PEOPOLE WON'T LIVE WITH YOU.
 Quoting: FunkY


Or what? Since he doesn't want Russian intervention (but believes that they would be right to do so lol) what threats can he give?
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


he cannot openly ask for military intervention and to pretend to still be the president of the whole Ukraine.
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True, but I wonder what he has been saying behind the scenes to Putin / Lavrov / whoever.
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Oh. RT @RT_com: URGENT: Movement of Russian armored vehicles in Crimea fully complies w agreements - Foreign Ministry [link to on.rt.com]
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Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances was a international treaty signed on Feburary, 5, 1994, in Budapest between Ukraine, USA, Russia, and Great Britain concerning nuclear disarmament of Ukraine and security assurances of her independence. According to the treaty Ukraine has abonded her nuclear arsenal to Russia, while Russia, USA, and Great Britian have promised (1) to respect Ukrainian independence and sovereignity within her borders; (2) to protect Ukraine from outer agression and not to conduct agression toward Ukraine; (3) not to put economic pressure on Ukraine in order to influence her politics; (4) not to use nuclear arms against Ukraine.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

fully complies w agreements
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Now this is very interesting.

Certainly something to keep in mind as this unfolds.


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Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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US provided cover for #euromaidan and is responsible for the chaos in Ukraine

FACT
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OPINION

What does it mean "provided cover"?
And if they did, why they shouldn't have?
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DOOM OFF, putin will no act, no WW3, NEXT...billclinton1
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I'm not so sure about doom off. I do think that Putin wants to expose who really set up this scenario. He wants to expose the bad guy...not BECOME the bad guy.
 Quoting: katballoo


Putin already IS the bad guy, the one using polonium or mafia to kill.
Always was
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54971032


Not as bad as using cruise missiles, blowing up children a block away to get 1 man on a wanted list.

Not as bad as an illegal president destroying the nation.


Not as bad as an Italian court system harassing that young girl.



No, there are much worse then Putin. He isn't my favorite, but he isn't as bad as others.
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Oh. RT @RT_com: URGENT: Movement of Russian armored vehicles in Crimea fully complies w agreements - Foreign Ministry [link to on.rt.com]
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54968753



Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances was a international treaty signed on Feburary, 5, 1994, in Budapest between Ukraine, USA, Russia, and Great Britain concerning nuclear disarmament of Ukraine and security assurances of her independence. According to the treaty Ukraine has abonded her nuclear arsenal to Russia, while Russia, USA, and Great Britian have promised (1) to respect Ukrainian independence and sovereignity within her borders; (2) to protect Ukraine from outer agression and not to conduct agression toward Ukraine; (3) not to put economic pressure on Ukraine in order to influence her politics; (4) not to use nuclear arms against Ukraine.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

fully complies w agreements
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51816967




Now this is very interesting.

Certainly something to keep in mind as this unfolds.


.
 Quoting: Bluebird


Key is on point 2.
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Russia is hardly likly to come to Ukraines aid when there is no violence anywhere. yanukovich was a crazy dictator and Mr Putin knows that.

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US provided cover for #euromaidan and is responsible for the chaos in Ukraine

FACT
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Which means Russia will consider the US responsible for the outcome. If any WMD's are used, by rebels or sovereign nation, Russia may be forced to retaliate or loose political influence in the region.

I am a US Citizen, and I am against covert operations designed to conquer nations.

I do not support illegal actions by my government.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


I don't see any illegal action in this case.
What I see is a corrupt government that sent snipers against his own people
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meh, nothing is going to happen for a while. The new government in Ukraine will get their IMF, EU, and USA bailout money, be forced to live in austerity and that's when the protests will reemerge. 6 months to a year before anything else happens. Once the people of Ukraine realize they've been sold a box of shit and that their condition of a shitty economy isn't going to improve at all under the EU they're have another hissyfit. When the next revolution happens it will be because the Ukraine people are doing it for themselves, not because of some US / EU led coup for Western benefit. They'll realize they've been shafted by the West and have another revolution.
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