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Anonymous Coward User ID: 55410671 United States 03/10/2014 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: BioReaper I don't think so. You don't negotiate from a position of strength. You negotiate and bluff only when your position is weak. As it stands now, there is no reason for Putin to give in on anything. Especially when he believes he is right. Seems to me (ever-changing perception) like Crimea is his foot in the door while he waits to see if NATO/EU does something he's simply unwilling to accept. Dunno, because we've paused the situation for a few days now. Putin knows the game being played. Man is a master tactician. He knows if he gives in he will have NATO at his border plus the missile shield. He also knows how far he can push before experiencing real blowback. He has what he wants for now which is a foothold in Crimea. He knows that at some point he will have to retake Kiev. He's got time. all he has to do at this point is sit back and let others mess up. I get the idea that he is letting time pass so the circus will die down, and the western politicians and media will get back to doing what they do best ie screwing over their people. He holds all the cards and as long as nobody does anything heroic, Putin has the luxury of time before his next move. just like the russian oligarchy ? . It is funny how putin lovers love to point out problems in the west yet russia is a shambles. I'm anything but a Putin lover. Or any kind of lover. See that is where people get fucked up. There is no right or wrong here, only countries and leaders following their own interests. You better hope their interests line up with yours. |
Nordic Wolf
User ID: 55415365 Sweden 03/10/2014 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 grasswire ‏@grasswire 26 min Reuters photo from @adagamov showing movement of major Russian forces in #Crimea. pic.twitter.com/1bfniCPira #Ukraine Loosing an illusion makes you wiser than finding a truth. ~Ludwig Börne Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it. ~Andre Gide Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw |
Newshunter
User ID: 22884594 United States 03/10/2014 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Euromaidan PR‏@EuromaidanPR·4m Colon from 70-90 #russian military vehicles(canons,APCs, tracks)start to move towards the north of #Crimea peninsula at 20:30 - EuromaidanPR |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12169011 Australia 03/10/2014 03:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 BBC Breaking News ‏@BBCBreaking · 29m Quoting: Unit 88 Nato to deploy Awacs reconnaissance planes in Poland and Ukraine to monitor crisis in Ukraine NATO moving assets into Ukraine. An Awacs is too expensive to be marked for wasting by an S-400... True, but in that case lot of other things will go. Moscow among the first NATO will only use nuclear weapons if Russia does not because a plane has been shot down. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36406549 United Kingdom 03/10/2014 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Russia must not be allowed to redraw the map of Europe, Radek Sikorski, Poland's Foreign Minister, tells the Telegraph ahead of a meeting with William Hague on Monday. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21682593 "We cannot let Putin get away with this," says Radek Sikorski, Poland's Foreign Minister. His Oxford English is perfect, his tone decisive. "By annexing Crimea, Russia is forcing a major change of boundaries on Europe. It means the breaking of the post-Cold War consensus. That is verboten." But Putin has underestimated EU unity, says Sikorski. "I'm seeing William Hague on Monday. We are as one on Ukraine. We cannot allow Putin to redraw the map of Europe along ethnic lines. Europe is based on the principle of overcoming borders rather than redrawing them. No one has the unilateral right to move borders in response to presumed ethnic grievances. We've seen what happened when a European leader tried to do that before: the peoples of the Soviet Union paid one of the biggest prices for this. . . ." [link to www.atlanticcouncil.org] My local council moved our parish boundary with out my permission. Does that mean I can get NATO to bomb there arses back to the stone age?? |
Unit 88
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1306052 Netherlands 03/10/2014 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 BOTH SIDES LIE CONSTANTLY. It is up to the freedom-loving people of the world to discern the truth and to: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54785254 1. Always follow the money. 2. Decide who benefits the most form given actions. Better yet... follow the GOLD Ukraine Gold Reserves Said To Be Put On Plane For "Safekeeping" In The U [link to www.talkmarkets.com] It is now clear that the coup in Ukraine has been orchrstrated by the usual rogue nation of international looters and pirates. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12169011 Australia 03/10/2014 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Ukraine, European Union could sign political pact of association agreement deepening ties on March 21, foreign minister says - @Routers Quoting: Limpan I'm wondering if Russia is actually willing to let Ukraine go to the EU and only keep Crimea to themselves. Just seems like that opens them up more than I would have guessed they would. If the rest of Ukraine goes to the EU, then I would imagine there will soon be a missile shield installed which is what Russia has been trying to avoid.. I've wondered what his end game is too. It appeared like he was not willing to let Ukraine go to the west/EU at first and then he invades Crimea. Now he's just sitting back? Weird. He must realize that if the Ukraine goes western they will be a shoe in for NATO after Russia's incursion. Strange, very strange. Your right I doubt Crimea is his endgame. He's already pissed off the West he may as well go further now... |
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User ID: 45514487 United States 03/10/2014 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 BBC Breaking News ‏@BBCBreaking · 29m Quoting: Unit 88 Nato to deploy Awacs reconnaissance planes in Poland and Ukraine to monitor crisis in Ukraine NATO moving assets into Ukraine. An Awacs is too expensive to be marked for wasting by an S-400... True, but in that case lot of other things will go. Moscow among the first NATO will only use nuclear weapons if Russia does not because a plane has been shot down. Huh? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 55413452 Egypt 03/10/2014 03:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 BOTH SIDES LIE CONSTANTLY. It is up to the freedom-loving people of the world to discern the truth and to: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54785254 1. Always follow the money. 2. Decide who benefits the most form given actions. This. I keep saying this too - Qui Bono and follow the money. I asked this before and nobody ever answered or gave their opinion. Who would benefit from setting Russia on a collision course with US/NATO? Before anyone scream insults at me, it's not a country or religious group of people FYI!!! Lets think about that |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55410671 United States 03/10/2014 03:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31771577 An Awacs is too expensive to be marked for wasting by an S-400... True, but in that case lot of other things will go. Moscow among the first NATO will only use nuclear weapons if Russia does not because a plane has been shot down. Huh? I think what he was trying to say is that NATO will only use nukes if Russia does. Nobody is going to fire a nuke over a plane being shot down (AWACS) |
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User ID: 29333438 United States 03/10/2014 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31771577 An Awacs is too expensive to be marked for wasting by an S-400... True, but in that case lot of other things will go. Moscow among the first NATO will only use nuclear weapons if Russia does not because a plane has been shot down. Huh? They said; "NATO will only use nuclear weapons if Russia does, not because a plane has been shot down." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55410671 United States 03/10/2014 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 BOTH SIDES LIE CONSTANTLY. It is up to the freedom-loving people of the world to discern the truth and to: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54785254 1. Always follow the money. 2. Decide who benefits the most form given actions. This. I keep saying this too - Qui Bono and follow the money. I asked this before and nobody ever answered or gave their opinion. Who would benefit from setting Russia on a collision course with US/NATO? Before anyone scream insults at me, it's not a country or religious group of people FYI!!! Lets think about that |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55413452 Egypt 03/10/2014 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Unconfirmed reports of Crimea air traffic halted after control rooms stormed by unknown men (viq @pravolivo) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55281064 I am pretty sure their breaths smelled of alcohol - drunkards sent to stir up trouble - that is, IF this report is true. What's next? Russians are going to poison the water supply of Kiev? Not like we've not heard these sort of disinfo propaganda on Twitter before. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22788475 Canada 03/10/2014 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Andrew Roth‏@ARothNYT1m Quoting: Newshunter Reports that fmr Kharkiv gov arrested for attempt violation of Ukraine's territorial integrity. Kiev trying to halt defections in east. "arrested" is a shill term for what is actually an assault by the NATO outlaws in Kiev: Bunch of fascist thugs. |
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User ID: 55408856 United Kingdom 03/10/2014 03:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 My local council moved our parish boundary with out my permission. Does that mean I can get NATO to bomb there arses back to the stone age?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36406549 lol. My local council renamed part of my street after Oliver Cromwell and renumbered the rest, supposedly to "make it easier for emergency services". All it did was confuse delivery drivers lol (luckily we have the sign on our house so it's easy to find lol). |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55410671 United States 03/10/2014 03:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Unconfirmed reports of Crimea air traffic halted after control rooms stormed by unknown men (viq @pravolivo) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55281064 I am pretty sure their breaths smelled of alcohol - drunkards sent to stir up trouble - that is, IF this report is true. What's next? Russians are going to poison the water supply of Kiev? Not like we've not heard these sort of disinfo propaganda on Twitter before. Tptb want a war so bad they can taste it but Putin isn't taking the bait. He will give them the war they want but it will be at a time and place of his choosing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55413452 Egypt 03/10/2014 03:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 BOTH SIDES LIE CONSTANTLY. It is up to the freedom-loving people of the world to discern the truth and to: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54785254 1. Always follow the money. 2. Decide who benefits the most form given actions. This. I keep saying this too - Qui Bono and follow the money. I asked this before and nobody ever answered or gave their opinion. Who would benefit from setting Russia on a collision course with US/NATO? Before anyone scream insults at me, it's not a country or religious group of people FYI!!! Lets think about that You have a clue? I'll say this, I wouldn't love anything more than having them all unite, all the patriots in every country, to kick the arse of these motherfuckers and take back the rights of the people. There is a way to live together and share you know...at least us people think like that. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22788475 Canada 03/10/2014 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 My local council moved our parish boundary with out my permission. Does that mean I can get NATO to bomb there arses back to the stone age?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36406549 lol. My local council renamed part of my street after Oliver Cromwell and renumbered the rest, supposedly to "make it easier for emergency services". All it did was confuse delivery drivers lol (luckily we have the sign on our house so it's easy to find lol). Oliver Cromwell, may he burn in hell forever and ever. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55410671 United States 03/10/2014 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 I keep saying this too - Qui Bono and follow the money. I asked this before and nobody ever answered or gave their opinion. Who would benefit from setting Russia on a collision course with US/NATO? Before anyone scream insults at me, it's not a country or religious group of people FYI!!! Lets think about that You have a clue? I'll say this, I wouldn't love anything more than having them all unite, all the patriots in every country, to kick the arse of these motherfuckers and take back the rights of the people. There is a way to live together and share you know...at least us people think like that. Sadly it's going to take a war and a lot of deaths before the people rise up and take back what has been taken from them. You know who is funding all this. Follow the money. |
Halo2Alexis™
User ID: 45982387 United States 03/10/2014 03:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 2 min Quoting: Luisport Unconfirmed reports of Crimea air traffic halted after control rooms stormed by unknown men (viq @pravolivo) Check out flight # S7165 / GLP165 on flightradar24.com [link = [link to www.flightradar24.com] ] Says it was bound for Simferopol from Moscow , but it made a HUGE u-turn. Are the Crimea airports shut down? Last Edited by eV3y on 03/10/2014 03:46 PM *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* I can't force people to accept the truth, but I can expose them to it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22788475 Canada 03/10/2014 03:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Just Hovens Greve ‏@JustHovensGreve 6 min Quoting: Nordic Wolf Wow. Heavily armed Russians check our train at the " border", even the toilet No shit, sherlock. How ruthless! Oh the drama! This must be a war crime! "The Russians made someone cry. This is an international outrage and an act of terror and it won't be tolerated" Kerry the Ketchup King, Lord of the Horsefaces |
tmorais
User ID: 53485785 Brazil 03/10/2014 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 2 min Quoting: Luisport Unconfirmed reports of Crimea air traffic halted after control rooms stormed by unknown men (viq @pravolivo) Check out flight # S7165 / GLP165 on flightradar24.com Says it was bound for Simferopol from Moscow , but it made a HUGE u-turn. Are the Crimea airports shut down? |