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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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I don't think so. You don't negotiate from a position of strength. You negotiate and bluff only when your position is weak. As it stands now, there is no reason for Putin to give in on anything. Especially when he believes he is right.
 Quoting: BioReaper


Seems to me (ever-changing perception) like Crimea is his foot in the door while he waits to see if NATO/EU does something he's simply unwilling to accept.

Dunno, because we've paused the situation for a few days now.
 Quoting: RelentlessDespot


Putin knows the game being played. Man is a master tactician. He knows if he gives in he will have NATO at his border plus the missile shield. He also knows how far he can push before experiencing real blowback. He has what he wants for now which is a foothold in Crimea. He knows that at some point he will have to retake Kiev. He's got time. all he has to do at this point is sit back and let others mess up. I get the idea that he is letting time pass so the circus will die down, and the western politicians and media will get back to doing what they do best ie screwing over their people. He holds all the cards and as long as nobody does anything heroic, Putin has the luxury of time before his next move.
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just like the russian oligarchy ? . It is funny how putin lovers love to point out problems in the west yet russia is a shambles.
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I'm anything but a Putin lover. Or any kind of lover. See that is where people get fucked up. There is no right or wrong here, only countries and leaders following their own interests. You better hope their interests line up with yours.
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grasswire ‏@grasswire 26 min

Reuters photo from @adagamov showing movement of major Russian forces in #Crimea. pic.twitter.com/1bfniCPira #Ukraine

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Colon from 70-90 #russian military vehicles(canons,APCs, tracks)start to move towards the north of #Crimea peninsula at 20:30 - EuromaidanPR
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BBC Breaking News ‏@BBCBreaking · 29m
Nato to deploy Awacs reconnaissance planes in Poland and Ukraine to monitor crisis in Ukraine

NATO moving assets into Ukraine.
 Quoting: Unit 88


An Awacs is too expensive to be marked for wasting by an S-400...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31771577


True, but in that case lot of other things will go.
Moscow among the first
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NATO will only use nuclear weapons if Russia does not because a plane has been shot down.
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Russia must not be allowed to redraw the map of Europe, Radek Sikorski, Poland's Foreign Minister, tells the Telegraph ahead of a meeting with William Hague on Monday.

"We cannot let Putin get away with this," says Radek Sikorski, Poland's Foreign Minister. His Oxford English is perfect, his tone decisive. "By annexing Crimea, Russia is forcing a major change of boundaries on Europe. It means the breaking of the post-Cold War consensus. That is verboten."

But Putin has underestimated EU unity, says Sikorski. "I'm seeing William Hague on Monday. We are as one on Ukraine. We cannot allow Putin to redraw the map of Europe along ethnic lines. Europe is based on the principle of overcoming borders rather than redrawing them. No one has the unilateral right to move borders in response to presumed ethnic grievances. We've seen what happened when a European leader tried to do that before: the peoples of the Soviet Union paid one of the biggest prices for this. . . ."

[link to www.atlanticcouncil.org]
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My local council moved our parish boundary with out my permission. Does that mean I can get NATO to bomb there arses back to the stone age??
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S400 is an air defence system not a nuke.
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BOTH SIDES LIE CONSTANTLY. It is up to the freedom-loving people of the world to discern the truth and to:

1. Always follow the money.
2. Decide who benefits the most form given actions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54785254


Better yet... follow the GOLD

Ukraine Gold Reserves Said To Be Put On Plane For "Safekeeping" In The U

[link to www.talkmarkets.com]

It is now clear that the coup in Ukraine has been orchrstrated by the usual rogue nation of international looters and pirates.
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Ukraine, European Union could sign political pact of association agreement deepening ties on March 21, foreign minister says - @Routers

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I'm wondering if Russia is actually willing to let Ukraine go to the EU and only keep Crimea to themselves. Just seems like that opens them up more than I would have guessed they would.

If the rest of Ukraine goes to the EU, then I would imagine there will soon be a missile shield installed which is what Russia has been trying to avoid..
 Quoting: RelentlessDespot


I've wondered what his end game is too. It appeared like he was not willing to let Ukraine go to the west/EU at first and then he invades Crimea. Now he's just sitting back? Weird. He must realize that if the Ukraine goes western they will be a shoe in for NATO after Russia's incursion.

Strange, very strange.
 Quoting: Puckerfactor

Your right I doubt Crimea is his endgame. He's already pissed off the West he may as well go further now...
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BOTH SIDES LIE CONSTANTLY. It is up to the freedom-loving people of the world to discern the truth and to:

1. Always follow the money.
2. Decide who benefits the most form given actions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54785254


This.
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BBC Breaking News ‏@BBCBreaking · 29m
Nato to deploy Awacs reconnaissance planes in Poland and Ukraine to monitor crisis in Ukraine

NATO moving assets into Ukraine.
 Quoting: Unit 88


An Awacs is too expensive to be marked for wasting by an S-400...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31771577


True, but in that case lot of other things will go.
Moscow among the first
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55411827


NATO will only use nuclear weapons if Russia does not because a plane has been shot down.
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Huh?
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Unconfirmed reports of Crimea air traffic halted after control rooms stormed by unknown men (viq @pravolivo)
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BOTH SIDES LIE CONSTANTLY. It is up to the freedom-loving people of the world to discern the truth and to:

1. Always follow the money.
2. Decide who benefits the most form given actions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54785254


This.
 Quoting: BioReaper


I keep saying this too - Qui Bono and follow the money.

I asked this before and nobody ever answered or gave their opinion.

Who would benefit from setting Russia on a collision course with US/NATO?
Before anyone scream insults at me, it's not a country or religious group of people FYI!!! Lets think about that tounge
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An Awacs is too expensive to be marked for wasting by an S-400...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31771577


True, but in that case lot of other things will go.
Moscow among the first
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55411827


NATO will only use nuclear weapons if Russia does not because a plane has been shot down.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12169011


Huh?
 Quoting: ZaphodBeeblebrox


I think what he was trying to say is that NATO will only use nukes if Russia does. Nobody is going to fire a nuke over a plane being shot down (AWACS)
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Reports that fmr Kharkiv gov arrested
for attempt violation of Ukraine's territorial integrity.
Kiev trying to halt defections in east.
 Quoting: Newshunter


"arrested" is a shill term for what is actually an assault by the NATO outlaws in Kiev:

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Unconfirmed reports of Crimea air traffic halted after control rooms stormed by unknown men (viq @pravolivo)
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An Awacs is too expensive to be marked for wasting by an S-400...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31771577


True, but in that case lot of other things will go.
Moscow among the first
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55411827


NATO will only use nuclear weapons if Russia does not because a plane has been shot down.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12169011


Huh?
 Quoting: ZaphodBeeblebrox


They said;

"NATO will only use nuclear weapons if Russia does, not because a plane has been shot down."
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BOTH SIDES LIE CONSTANTLY. It is up to the freedom-loving people of the world to discern the truth and to:

1. Always follow the money.
2. Decide who benefits the most form given actions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54785254


This.
 Quoting: BioReaper


I keep saying this too - Qui Bono and follow the money.

I asked this before and nobody ever answered or gave their opinion.

Who would benefit from setting Russia on a collision course with US/NATO?
Before anyone scream insults at me, it's not a country or religious group of people FYI!!! Lets think about that tounge
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55413452


ohyeah
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Unconfirmed reports of Crimea air traffic halted after control rooms stormed by unknown men (viq @pravolivo)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55281064


I am pretty sure their breaths smelled of alcohol - drunkards sent to stir up trouble - that is, IF this report is true.
What's next? Russians are going to poison the water supply of Kiev? Not like we've not heard these sort of disinfo propaganda on Twitter before.
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Euromaidan saying 70-90 Russian military vehicles on their way to Armyansk.
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Andrew Roth‏@ARothNYT1m
Reports that fmr Kharkiv gov arrested
for attempt violation of Ukraine's territorial integrity.
Kiev trying to halt defections in east.
 Quoting: Newshunter


"arrested" is a shill term for what is actually an assault by the NATO outlaws in Kiev:


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Bunch of fascist thugs.
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US Senate is preparing Ukraine bill including sanctions and aid, as well as loan guarantee, Congressional aides tell @Reuters
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My local council moved our parish boundary with out my permission. Does that mean I can get NATO to bomb there arses back to the stone age??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36406549


lol. My local council renamed part of my street after Oliver Cromwell and renumbered the rest, supposedly to "make it easier for emergency services". All it did was confuse delivery drivers lol (luckily we have the sign on our house so it's easy to find lol).
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Unconfirmed reports of Crimea air traffic halted after control rooms stormed by unknown men (viq @pravolivo)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55281064


I am pretty sure their breaths smelled of alcohol - drunkards sent to stir up trouble - that is, IF this report is true.
What's next? Russians are going to poison the water supply of Kiev? Not like we've not heard these sort of disinfo propaganda on Twitter before.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55413452


Tptb want a war so bad they can taste it but Putin isn't taking the bait. He will give them the war they want but it will be at a time and place of his choosing.
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BOTH SIDES LIE CONSTANTLY. It is up to the freedom-loving people of the world to discern the truth and to:

1. Always follow the money.
2. Decide who benefits the most form given actions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54785254


This.
 Quoting: BioReaper


I keep saying this too - Qui Bono and follow the money.

I asked this before and nobody ever answered or gave their opinion.

Who would benefit from setting Russia on a collision course with US/NATO?
Before anyone scream insults at me, it's not a country or religious group of people FYI!!! Lets think about that tounge
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55413452


ohyeah
 Quoting: BioReaper


You have a clue?

drevil

I'll say this, I wouldn't love anything more than having them all unite, all the patriots in every country, to kick the arse of these motherfuckers and take back the rights of the people. There is a way to live together and share you know...at least us people think like that.
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Just Hovens Greve ‏@JustHovensGreve 6 min

Wow. Heavily armed Russians check our train at the " border", even the toilet
 Quoting: Nordic Wolf


No shit, sherlock. How ruthless!

Just Hovens Greve ‏@JustHovensGreve 6 min

One girl is crying.
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Oh the drama! This must be a war crime!
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My local council moved our parish boundary with out my permission. Does that mean I can get NATO to bomb there arses back to the stone age??
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lol. My local council renamed part of my street after Oliver Cromwell and renumbered the rest, supposedly to "make it easier for emergency services". All it did was confuse delivery drivers lol (luckily we have the sign on our house so it's easy to find lol).
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Oliver Cromwell, may he burn in hell forever and ever.
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This.
 Quoting: BioReaper


I keep saying this too - Qui Bono and follow the money.

I asked this before and nobody ever answered or gave their opinion.

Who would benefit from setting Russia on a collision course with US/NATO?
Before anyone scream insults at me, it's not a country or religious group of people FYI!!! Lets think about that tounge
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55413452


ohyeah
 Quoting: BioReaper


You have a clue?

drevil

I'll say this, I wouldn't love anything more than having them all unite, all the patriots in every country, to kick the arse of these motherfuckers and take back the rights of the people. There is a way to live together and share you know...at least us people think like that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55413452


Sadly it's going to take a war and a lot of deaths before the people rise up and take back what has been taken from them. You know who is funding all this. Follow the money.
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Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 2 min
Unconfirmed reports of Crimea air traffic halted after control rooms stormed by unknown men (viq @pravolivo)

 Quoting: Luisport


Check out flight # S7165 / GLP165 on flightradar24.com
[link = [link to www.flightradar24.com] ]
Says it was bound for Simferopol from Moscow , but it made a HUGE u-turn. Are the Crimea airports shut down?

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Just Hovens Greve ‏@JustHovensGreve 6 min

Wow. Heavily armed Russians check our train at the " border", even the toilet
 Quoting: Nordic Wolf


No shit, sherlock. How ruthless!

Just Hovens Greve ‏@JustHovensGreve 6 min

One girl is crying.
 Quoting: Nordic Wolf


Oh the drama! This must be a war crime!
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"The Russians made someone cry. This is an international outrage and an act of terror and it won't be tolerated" Kerry the Ketchup King, Lord of the Horsefaces
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Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 2 min
Unconfirmed reports of Crimea air traffic halted after control rooms stormed by unknown men (viq @pravolivo)

 Quoting: Luisport


Check out flight # S7165 / GLP165 on flightradar24.com
Says it was bound for Simferopol from Moscow , but it made a HUGE u-turn. Are the Crimea airports shut down?
 Quoting: Halo2Alexis™


damned





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