UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46705080 Netherlands 09/04/2014 04:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... How do you mean once again? :) They are still waiting for the first time you know.They have never been beaten so far. It is west that has pile of failures and it could easily fail.. once again. But you do not listen. Perhaps you would like too.. but you can't. :) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46705080 You refer to military strength? No doubt russi has a strong militry. However this tool can only be used to a certain extend. The cold war tells a different story. They story of dipmoacy and economy winnig wars. Russia did loos. Big time. And it still shouts in pain. They need to get over it and procede. THERE IS NO WAY BACK. TRY, as often as you want. Send tanks everywhere. Keep resisting the facts and the truth. We'll get you on other battlefields than the military one. Much bigger and effecitve ones. Even China looks at you and shakes it head over so much stubbornness. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62512318 Here lays grand delusion of many neocons. Russia did not lose Cold War. Russia won Cold war.Soviet Union lost Cold War. But you think Russia is Soviet Union while you forget Historical fact that Soviet Union was everything but Russian. The Moment Russians came in to this very Non Russian power.( Not one Russian was leader of Soviet Union, not one.. They were all or from Georgie or from Ukraine or Jewish and etc..).. They killed it. And were more than happy to do it. What happened in the 90is is what Russians say themselves, They thought western world is tired of stupid conflicts as well, transition away from Soviet system was vary paiinfull.But moment NATO broke all norms and International Laws with aggression on Yugoslavia, Russia said it is enough and that same year Putin came to power. And if West was not so aggressive but instead kept high moral ground with deeds, it would rule the world indeed. And I Russians said as well that that kinds of concept they would gladly join. This is all.. not secret. Everything is public knowledge just very few try to connect dots and are reading only from one (their) perspective. Which by definition is making you blind. So it Ironically that you talk about bigger u picture.. you know. :) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46705080 I agree with all of this xcept none of it justifies annexing parts of Ukraine. Russia has lost any moral advantage and now it is pure force that will prevail. Quoting: Tpotleoz Russia annexed Crimea so NATO could not annex it.We do not have united front with this. It is old school vs new school.Even Kissinger said this revolution in Ukraine is very bad move.But new school takes no criticism, nice lifestyles they have, absolute media cover but are becoming completely delusional and dangerous. Listen, if so much of USA military resented in the case of Syria. What do you think will happen in case of Russia? Are we are going to have Dr Stranglove scenario being played? Kubrick was an amazing film director.
firinne User ID: 52431909 Ireland 09/04/2014 04:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Only full scale sanctions will save the petro-dollar.... But the struggling EU economies will collapse.... Get some gold/silver is my advice.... Quoting: firinne That is debateable. OPEC will keep using dollars in western nations. So at least half of the world will stay on track. No idea if thats enough for the USA. I don't think either russias nor europes industry will comply with oil/gas sanctions without attempting to aork around them. Russia could forcibly tell europe it only sold it's oil in non us currency or gold but that would only accellerate the idea of a permanent pipeline from SA and Iraq to europe. In the long term europe as a coustomer would disappear. They will find a way to keep things running. One idea would be fieldstatus for pipelines. --> No legislative jurisdiction then. --> No sanctions either. I think.... Russia can shift the markets to BRICS nations and their trading partners. However i strongly doubt that the price achieved would even come close to what europe is willing to pay. In any way there would be some negative economic implications since oil/gas sector in russia is dominant position of economic output. Again: Why does russia risk everything over old views which anyway have no future? They for a long time could be part of the system already. What is it I do not see??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62516162 Russias biggest fear is NATO expansion, everything else (ecomomy etc) are only minor issues. The maidan coup, was part of a long term plan to expand NATO, but Crimea was a major loss to the NWO.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62516162 Germany 09/04/2014 04:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... You refer to military strength? No doubt russi has a strong militry. However this tool can only be used to a certain extend. The cold war tells a different story. They story of dipmoacy and economy winnig wars. Russia did loos. Big time. And it still shouts in pain. They need to get over it and procede. THERE IS NO WAY BACK. TRY, as often as you want. Send tanks everywhere. Keep resisting the facts and the truth. We'll get you on other battlefields than the military one. Much bigger and effecitve ones. Even China looks at you and shakes it head over so much stubbornness. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62512318 Here lays grand delusion of many neocons. Russia did not lose Cold War. Russia won Cold war.Soviet Union lost Cold War. But you think Russia is Soviet Union while you forget Historical fact that Soviet Union was everything but Russian. The Moment Russians came in to this very Non Russian power.( Not one Russian was leader of Soviet Union, not one.. They were all or from Georgie or from Ukraine or Jewish and etc..).. They killed it. And were more than happy to do it. What happened in the 90is is what Russians say themselves, They thought western world is tired of stupid conflicts as well, transition away from Soviet system was vary paiinfull.But moment NATO broke all norms and International Laws with aggression on Yugoslavia, Russia said it is enough and that same year Putin came to power. And if West was not so aggressive but instead kept high moral ground with deeds, it would rule the world indeed. And I Russians said as well that that kinds of concept they would gladly join. This is all.. not secret. Everything is public knowledge just very few try to connect dots and are reading only from one (their) perspective. Which by definition is making you blind. So it Ironically that you talk about bigger u picture.. you know. :) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46705080 I agree with all of this xcept none of it justifies annexing parts of Ukraine. Russia has lost any moral advantage and now it is pure force that will prevail. Quoting: Tpotleoz Should,t the decision of Crimean soverignity lie with the people of Crimea. What right do the west have to dictate other peoples right to self determination. Kosovo anyone ??? Quoting: firinne Hmmm. What would happen if there was a revolution with regime change in Russia and some Districts said they don't agree and they secceede form the Union? Would Russia let them go?
Tpotleoz User ID: 59847802 United States 09/04/2014 04:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... The basis for the international legal system was officially discarded by Putin. US did effect regime change repeatedly but this is the next level. Guess what is next? Quoting: Tpotleoz US Bombed Yugoslavia back to stone age to protect Albanians. Perhaps Russia could do the same in Ukraine to protect Russians? Your hypocrisy does not surprise anyone, anymore. If you had three grams in your brains you would notice that times have changed, and more you are trying to sell this banana stories to public more resentment you will receive. Gotta change the script, but you can't. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46705080 Get ready for more border changes. Hint: they won't all be in Ukraine. Quoting: Tpotleoz I don't know what they tell you over the pond but let me tell you I haven't met a single German that could muster up more than an eyeroll at the thought of a possible "Russian invasion". Shit, it was embarrassing to ask in the first place. I doubt AC would feel different if he's really from the Netherlands. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62478444 I wasn't thinking Russian invasion per se. Eat the Reds
KneelB4Zod! User ID: 18164985 Denmark 09/04/2014 04:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 marqs ‏@MarQs__ · 11 min. 100s of #Ukraine troops are trapped by #Russia\|n forces in #Debalcevo. Soldiers there from 11th Ukr army battalion & volunt. Bat. Carpathian ConflictReporter @MiddleEast_BRK · 1 min #BREAKINGNEWS The Russian invasion army closed the ring around 100s of Ukrainian troops in #Debalcevo. Last Edited by KneelB4Zod! on 09/04/2014 04:12 AM “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62516162 Germany 09/04/2014 04:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Only full scale sanctions will save the petro-dollar.... But the struggling EU economies will collapse.... Get some gold/silver is my advice.... Quoting: firinne That is debateable. OPEC will keep using dollars in western nations. So at least half of the world will stay on track. No idea if thats enough for the USA. I don't think either russias nor europes industry will comply with oil/gas sanctions without attempting to aork around them. Russia could forcibly tell europe it only sold it's oil in non us currency or gold but that would only accellerate the idea of a permanent pipeline from SA and Iraq to europe. In the long term europe as a coustomer would disappear. They will find a way to keep things running. One idea would be fieldstatus for pipelines. --> No legislative jurisdiction then. --> No sanctions either. I think.... Russia can shift the markets to BRICS nations and their trading partners. However i strongly doubt that the price achieved would even come close to what europe is willing to pay. In any way there would be some negative economic implications since oil/gas sector in russia is dominant position of economic output. Again: Why does russia risk everything over old views which anyway have no future? They for a long time could be part of the system already. What is it I do not see??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62516162 Russias biggest fear is NATO expansion, everything else (ecomomy etc) are only minor issues. The maidan coup, was part of a long term plan to expand NATO, but Crimea was a major loss to the NWO. Quoting: firinne At some point NATO and BRICS will HAVE to merge. The new organisation will have another name yes but in the end a world treaty organisation(worldwide free trade zone/economic/political union) will happen. Everyone knows that. Why the resentiments from russia? Someone there does clearly either oppose or misunderstand current mechanics. I can not believe it is a NATO expansion problem.
firinne User ID: 52431909 Ireland 09/04/2014 04:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Here lays grand delusion of many neocons. Russia did not lose Cold War. Russia won Cold war.Soviet Union lost Cold War. But you think Russia is Soviet Union while you forget Historical fact that Soviet Union was everything but Russian. The Moment Russians came in to this very Non Russian power.( Not one Russian was leader of Soviet Union, not one.. They were all or from Georgie or from Ukraine or Jewish and etc..).. They killed it. And were more than happy to do it. What happened in the 90is is what Russians say themselves, They thought western world is tired of stupid conflicts as well, transition away from Soviet system was vary paiinfull.But moment NATO broke all norms and International Laws with aggression on Yugoslavia, Russia said it is enough and that same year Putin came to power. And if West was not so aggressive but instead kept high moral ground with deeds, it would rule the world indeed. And I Russians said as well that that kinds of concept they would gladly join. This is all.. not secret. Everything is public knowledge just very few try to connect dots and are reading only from one (their) perspective. Which by definition is making you blind. So it Ironically that you talk about bigger u picture.. you know. :) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46705080 I agree with all of this xcept none of it justifies annexing parts of Ukraine. Russia has lost any moral advantage and now it is pure force that will prevail. Quoting: Tpotleoz Should,t the decision of Crimean soverignity lie with the people of Crimea. What right do the west have to dictate other peoples right to self determination. Kosovo anyone ??? Quoting: firinne Hmmm. What would happen if there was a revolution with regime change in Russia and some Districts said they don't agree and they secceede form the Union? Would Russia let them go? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62516162 It could be argued that, thats what happened with the breakup of the Soviet Union. Anyway whats left of Russia is majority Slavs.
KneelB4Zod! User ID: 18164985 Denmark 09/04/2014 04:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Ukraine Reporter ‏@StateOfUkraine · 1 min. Ilovaisk carnage appears to be repeating in Debaltseve a key city between Luhansk & Donetsk where the Russian army has encircled UA fighters “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62516162 Germany 09/04/2014 04:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... I agree with all of this xcept none of it justifies annexing parts of Ukraine. Russia has lost any moral advantage and now it is pure force that will prevail. Quoting: Tpotleoz Should,t the decision of Crimean soverignity lie with the people of Crimea. What right do the west have to dictate other peoples right to self determination. Kosovo anyone ??? Quoting: firinne Hmmm. What would happen if there was a revolution with regime change in Russia and some Districts said they don't agree and they secceede form the Union? Would Russia let them go? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62516162 It could be argued that, thats what happened with the breakup of the Soviet Union. Anyway whats left of Russia is majority Slavs. Quoting: firinne Not the same but...close. Russia did let SU break apart but what if it was core nation like it is in ukraine?
KneelB4Zod! User ID: 18164985 Denmark 09/04/2014 04:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Dugin and Strelkov in Valaam, Russia. Yes, Strelkov is obviously live and fine. [link to voicesevas.ru] [link to voicesevas.ru] [link to voicesevas.ru] Last Edited by KneelB4Zod! on 09/04/2014 04:22 AM “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Tpotleoz User ID: 59847802 United States 09/04/2014 04:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Dugin and Strelkov in Valaam, Russia. Yes, Strelkov is obviously live and fine. [link to voicesevas.ru] [link to voicesevas.ru] [link to voicesevas.ru] Quoting: KneelB4Zod! The terrorist lives on... Eat the Reds
°Lucy° User ID: 62267864 Germany 09/04/2014 04:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Russians at NATO ‏@natomission_ru 48 Sek. Merkel: No permanent #NATO troop presence in Eastern Europe [link to www.dw.de] … "He who people call a fool is not a fool, but he who takes flattery for Truth, is."
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62516162 Germany 09/04/2014 04:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Russians at NATO ‏@natomission_ru 48 Sek. Merkel: No permanent #NATO troop presence in Eastern Europe [link to www.dw.de] … Quoting: °Lucy° Another hand towards russia. I bet they won't even get what this is about.
FormerlyBritish User ID: 60582120 United States 09/04/2014 04:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Why do I start getting the feeling russias new borderlines will soon be at volgograd. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62512318 my feeling is berlin will be russian again Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59622456 It never was Russian. Though it was Soviet. There is a big difference, ask the Ukrainians.
KneelB4Zod! User ID: 18164985 Denmark 09/04/2014 04:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Another footage from Lutugino. “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
°Lucy° User ID: 62267864 Germany 09/04/2014 04:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Rob Stockman ‏@HngOver 3 Min. RT @BreakingNews: Dutch investigators: report into downing of #MalaysiaAirlines plane over #Ukraine will published September 8 "He who people call a fool is not a fool, but he who takes flattery for Truth, is."

KneelB4Zod! User ID: 18164985 Denmark 09/04/2014 04:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Dugin and Strelkov in Valaam, Russia. Yes, Strelkov is obviously live and fine. [link to voicesevas.ru] [link to voicesevas.ru] [link to voicesevas.ru] Quoting: KneelB4Zod! The terrorist lives on... Quoting: Tpotleoz Demon screams when he sees exorcist. “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62516828 Russia 09/04/2014 04:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... How do you mean once again? :) They are still waiting for the first time you know.They have never been beaten so far. It is west that has pile of failures and it could easily fail.. once again. But you do not listen. Perhaps you would like too.. but you can't. :) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46705080 You refer to military strength? No doubt russi has a strong militry. However this tool can only be used to a certain extend. The cold war tells a different story. They story of dipmoacy and economy winnig wars. Russia did loos. Big time. And it still shouts in pain. They need to get over it and procede. THERE IS NO WAY BACK. TRY, as often as you want. Send tanks everywhere. Keep resisting the facts and the truth. We'll get you on other battlefields than the military one. Much bigger and effecitve ones. Even China looks at you and shakes it head over so much stubbornness. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62512318 Here lays grand delusion of many neocons. Russia did not lose Cold War. Russia won Cold war.Soviet Union lost Cold War. But you think Russia is Soviet Union while you forget Historical fact that Soviet Union was everything but Russian. The Moment Russians came in to this very Non Russian power.( Not one Russian was leader of Soviet Union, not one.. They were all or from Georgie or from Ukraine or Jewish and etc..).. They killed it. And were more than happy to do it. What happened in the 90is is what Russians say themselves, They thought western world is tired of stupid conflicts as well, transition away from Soviet system was vary paiinfull.But moment NATO broke all norms and International Laws with aggression on Yugoslavia, Russia said it is enough and that same year Putin came to power. And if West was not so aggressive but instead kept high moral ground with deeds, it would rule the world indeed. And I Russians said as well that that kinds of concept they would gladly join. This is all.. not secret. Everything is public knowledge just very few try to connect dots and are reading only from one (their) perspective. Which by definition is making you blind. So it Ironically that you talk about bigger u picture.. you know. :) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46705080 I agree with all of this xcept none of it justifies annexing parts of Ukraine. Russia has lost any moral advantage and now it is pure force that will prevail. Quoting: Tpotleoz Ukies less care about Crmiea, which is gone for good now, than you. Isn't it little strange. You know US also didn't have a moral ground to annex Texas from Mexico, but nobody now gives a fuk.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62478444 Germany 09/04/2014 04:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... US Bombed Yugoslavia back to stone age to protect Albanians. Perhaps Russia could do the same in Ukraine to protect Russians? Your hypocrisy does not surprise anyone, anymore. If you had three grams in your brains you would notice that times have changed, and more you are trying to sell this banana stories to public more resentment you will receive. Gotta change the script, but you can't. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46705080 Get ready for more border changes. Hint: they won't all be in Ukraine. Quoting: Tpotleoz I don't know what they tell you over the pond but let me tell you I haven't met a single German that could muster up more than an eyeroll at the thought of a possible "Russian invasion". Shit, it was embarrassing to ask in the first place. I doubt AC would feel different if he's really from the Netherlands. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62478444 why are there still US troops in Germany then? Obviously Germans must view NATO as no longer necessary. Why won't the Germans stop bitching and whining about the Americans and boot their asses out? If Afghanis can do it so can Germany. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62039612 Pfffft hahaha In Germany you get to vote every four years, but it doesn't really matter which of the few established parties you vote for anyway, the end result will differ little. We recently had state votings in Saxony... voter participation was less than 50%. No German thinks there is any bloody chance at all of citizens having a voice when it comes to individual matters. No, you vote for a party and then you just kinda hope for the best. We have a parliament that is supposed to take part in the big decisions - unfortunately it really doesn't. Instead, Merkel does, in secret talks with usually three-five of her ministers. Then she makes a decision, and everyone else is told to live with it. I mean, sometimes parliament gets asked too. Just not on the important things... So no, unless we decide to arm ourselves, march in there and escort the foreign soldiers out, we won't be getting rid off them. Why, Merkel even told us she would implement all measures as she sees fit, even if the whole of Germany was totally against. It's a Merkelocracy.
FormerlyBritish User ID: 60582120 United States 09/04/2014 04:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Why does Russia risk everything over old views which anyway have no future? They for a long time could be part of the system already. What is it I do not see??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62516162 I think you don't see that American hegemony is killing the world and no-one but Russia is willing to step up and seriously challenge it. That's because only Russia and China are able to take it down and America thinks Russia is an easier target for bullying. They are wrong, evolution through Bolshevism has made the Russians a very hardy race. The will take their Camembert and other luxuries when available, but they have no problem doing without them when national pride is threatened. They lived through the cold war and the Khrushchev and Brezhnev years, they (some of them) live in Siberia, so as a nation of people they are hard as nails.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62516828 Russia 09/04/2014 04:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Dugin and Strelkov in Valaam, Russia. Yes, Strelkov is obviously live and fine. [link to voicesevas.ru] [link to voicesevas.ru] [link to voicesevas.ru] Quoting: KneelB4Zod! The terrorist lives on... Quoting: Tpotleoz Demon screams when he sees exorcist. Quoting: KneelB4Zod! Are you talking about criptojew tpotleoz?
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62478444 Germany 09/04/2014 04:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... US Bombed Yugoslavia back to stone age to protect Albanians. Perhaps Russia could do the same in Ukraine to protect Russians? Your hypocrisy does not surprise anyone, anymore. If you had three grams in your brains you would notice that times have changed, and more you are trying to sell this banana stories to public more resentment you will receive. Gotta change the script, but you can't. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46705080 Get ready for more border changes. Hint: they won't all be in Ukraine. Quoting: Tpotleoz I don't know what they tell you over the pond but let me tell you I haven't met a single German that could muster up more than an eyeroll at the thought of a possible "Russian invasion". Shit, it was embarrassing to ask in the first place. I doubt AC would feel different if he's really from the Netherlands. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62478444 No I'm from Mexico. Waiting to cross into USA. ahah.. Go home. Most of people I know are very much fed up with all kind of BS.Do not underestimate Dutch. Smallest biggest folks on Earth. If you get my drift. Then like in France,or UK, we have large Muslim population.So far all is going smooth in Holland but potential for trouble is always there.Especially if it spills from France for example. Politicians and Media are saying usual story but we are not frontrunners anyway so it does not matter really what Dutch, think or do. So excuse me if I have my opinion sharing on GLP forum. What bother you so much to read non MSM opinions on GLP? What did you expect? Funny, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46705080 What? And where did I judge Dutch people? I just said "they probably aren't afraid of the Russians either". And I meant this because they're even further west than Germany. Frankly, I don't know what your problem is?
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62516162 Germany 09/04/2014 04:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... You refer to military strength? No doubt russi has a strong militry. However this tool can only be used to a certain extend. The cold war tells a different story. They story of dipmoacy and economy winnig wars. Russia did loos. Big time. And it still shouts in pain. They need to get over it and procede. THERE IS NO WAY BACK. TRY, as often as you want. Send tanks everywhere. Keep resisting the facts and the truth. We'll get you on other battlefields than the military one. Much bigger and effecitve ones. Even China looks at you and shakes it head over so much stubbornness. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62512318 Here lays grand delusion of many neocons. Russia did not lose Cold War. Russia won Cold war.Soviet Union lost Cold War. But you think Russia is Soviet Union while you forget Historical fact that Soviet Union was everything but Russian. The Moment Russians came in to this very Non Russian power.( Not one Russian was leader of Soviet Union, not one.. They were all or from Georgie or from Ukraine or Jewish and etc..).. They killed it. And were more than happy to do it. What happened in the 90is is what Russians say themselves, They thought western world is tired of stupid conflicts as well, transition away from Soviet system was vary paiinfull.But moment NATO broke all norms and International Laws with aggression on Yugoslavia, Russia said it is enough and that same year Putin came to power. And if West was not so aggressive but instead kept high moral ground with deeds, it would rule the world indeed. And I Russians said as well that that kinds of concept they would gladly join. This is all.. not secret. Everything is public knowledge just very few try to connect dots and are reading only from one (their) perspective. Which by definition is making you blind. So it Ironically that you talk about bigger u picture.. you know. :) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46705080 I agree with all of this xcept none of it justifies annexing parts of Ukraine. Russia has lost any moral advantage and now it is pure force that will prevail. Quoting: Tpotleoz Ukies less care about Crmiea, which is gone for good now, than you. Isn't it little strange. You know US also didn't have a moral ground to annex Texas from Mexico, but nobody now gives a fuk. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62516828 It is not about crimea. We knew russia would get crimea.(Black Sea access/dominance) We knew russia would get donbas.(Coal) There are 2 more things at disposal: Industrial sector of Kharviv AND THE MOST IMPORTANT THING The agricultural sector. Did you know that Ukraine is 3rd biggest grain and wheat exporter of the world? The so called "Breadbasket of Europe"! Maybe this is what it really is about? Not for EU or US but for World Bank and IMF.
KneelB4Zod! User ID: 18164985 Denmark 09/04/2014 04:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Rock Solid Politics ‏@BradCabana · 2 min. Initial report into downing of #MH17 over eastern #Ukraine will be published September 9 - @Reuters #cdnpoli #Russia “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62515678 Italy 09/04/2014 04:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 LBCI News English @LBCI_News_EN · 13 min #NATO's Rasmussen says #Russia is attacking #Ukraine
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62515678 Italy 09/04/2014 04:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 #Russia's aggression against #Ukraine is a wake-up call that freedom & security shouldn't be taken for granted - @AndersFoghR #NATOSummitUK Poroshenko will also briefing the leaders at the summit
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62516828 Russia 09/04/2014 04:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Here lays grand delusion of many neocons. Russia did not lose Cold War. Russia won Cold war.Soviet Union lost Cold War. But you think Russia is Soviet Union while you forget Historical fact that Soviet Union was everything but Russian. The Moment Russians came in to this very Non Russian power.( Not one Russian was leader of Soviet Union, not one.. They were all or from Georgie or from Ukraine or Jewish and etc..).. They killed it. And were more than happy to do it. What happened in the 90is is what Russians say themselves, They thought western world is tired of stupid conflicts as well, transition away from Soviet system was vary paiinfull.But moment NATO broke all norms and International Laws with aggression on Yugoslavia, Russia said it is enough and that same year Putin came to power. And if West was not so aggressive but instead kept high moral ground with deeds, it would rule the world indeed. And I Russians said as well that that kinds of concept they would gladly join. This is all.. not secret. Everything is public knowledge just very few try to connect dots and are reading only from one (their) perspective. Which by definition is making you blind. So it Ironically that you talk about bigger u picture.. you know. :) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46705080 I agree with all of this xcept none of it justifies annexing parts of Ukraine. Russia has lost any moral advantage and now it is pure force that will prevail. Quoting: Tpotleoz Ukies less care about Crmiea, which is gone for good now, than you. Isn't it little strange. You know US also didn't have a moral ground to annex Texas from Mexico, but nobody now gives a fuk. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62516828 It is not about crimea. We knew russia would get crimea.(Black Sea access/dominance) We knew russia would get donbas.(Coal) There are 2 more things at disposal: Industrial sector of Kharviv AND THE MOST IMPORTANT THING The agricultural sector. Did you know that Ukraine is 3rd biggest grain and wheat exporter of the world? The so called "Breadbasket of Europe"! Maybe this is what it really is about? Not for EU or US but for World Bank and IMF. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62516162 Unfortunately now it will become GMObreadbasket of Gmorope :(.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62515678 Italy 09/04/2014 04:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 RT ‏@RT_com 41 sec #NATOSummitWales kicks off amid #Ukraine, #ISIS tensions; Follow LIVE UPDATES [link to on.rt.com]
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62516999 Lithuania 09/04/2014 04:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... You refer to military strength? No doubt russi has a strong militry. However this tool can only be used to a certain extend. The cold war tells a different story. They story of dipmoacy and economy winnig wars. Russia did loos. Big time. And it still shouts in pain. They need to get over it and procede. THERE IS NO WAY BACK. TRY, as often as you want. Send tanks everywhere. Keep resisting the facts and the truth. We'll get you on other battlefields than the military one. Much bigger and effecitve ones. Even China looks at you and shakes it head over so much stubbornness. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62512318 Here lays grand delusion of many neocons. Russia did not lose Cold War. Russia won Cold war.Soviet Union lost Cold War. But you think Russia is Soviet Union while you forget Historical fact that Soviet Union was everything but Russian. The Moment Russians came in to this very Non Russian power.( Not one Russian was leader of Soviet Union, not one.. They were all or from Georgie or from Ukraine or Jewish and etc..).. They killed it. And were more than happy to do it. What happened in the 90is is what Russians say themselves, They thought western world is tired of stupid conflicts as well, transition away from Soviet system was vary paiinfull.But moment NATO broke all norms and International Laws with aggression on Yugoslavia, Russia said it is enough and that same year Putin came to power. And if West was not so aggressive but instead kept high moral ground with deeds, it would rule the world indeed. And I Russians said as well that that kinds of concept they would gladly join. This is all.. not secret. Everything is public knowledge just very few try to connect dots and are reading only from one (their) perspective. Which by definition is making you blind. So it Ironically that you talk about bigger u picture.. you know. :) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46705080 I agree with all of this xcept none of it justifies annexing parts of Ukraine. Russia has lost any moral advantage and now it is pure force that will prevail. Quoting: Tpotleoz Should,t the decision of Crimean soverignity lie with the people of Crimea. What right do the west have to dictate other peoples right to self determination. Kosovo anyone ??? Quoting: firinne Well said! The Queen is the head of the NWO though... She just uses the US to take the spotlight off of her self! Look at the spikes the UK government put on their public benches, the PUT YOUR CHILD ON A LEASH signs and the cameras on every street corner!!! When are people going to wake up and see who the real perpetrators are???
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62516828 Russia 09/04/2014 04:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Here lays grand delusion of many neocons. Russia did not lose Cold War. Russia won Cold war.Soviet Union lost Cold War. But you think Russia is Soviet Union while you forget Historical fact that Soviet Union was everything but Russian. The Moment Russians came in to this very Non Russian power.( Not one Russian was leader of Soviet Union, not one.. They were all or from Georgie or from Ukraine or Jewish and etc..).. They killed it. And were more than happy to do it. What happened in the 90is is what Russians say themselves, They thought western world is tired of stupid conflicts as well, transition away from Soviet system was vary paiinfull.But moment NATO broke all norms and International Laws with aggression on Yugoslavia, Russia said it is enough and that same year Putin came to power. And if West was not so aggressive but instead kept high moral ground with deeds, it would rule the world indeed. And I Russians said as well that that kinds of concept they would gladly join. This is all.. not secret. Everything is public knowledge just very few try to connect dots and are reading only from one (their) perspective. Which by definition is making you blind. So it Ironically that you talk about bigger u picture.. you know. :) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46705080 I agree with all of this xcept none of it justifies annexing parts of Ukraine. Russia has lost any moral advantage and now it is pure force that will prevail. Quoting: Tpotleoz Should,t the decision of Crimean soverignity lie with the people of Crimea. What right do the west have to dictate other peoples right to self determination. Kosovo anyone ??? Quoting: firinne Well said! The Queen is the head of the NWO though... She just uses the US to take the spotlight off of her self! Look at the spikes the UK government put on their public benches, the PUT YOUR CHILD ON A LEASH signs and the cameras on every street corner!!! When are people going to wake up and see who the real perpetrators are??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62516999 nwo thinks this way. They are pretty sure that they own us. So if they own us what kind of self determination we are talking about? This is probably right about West but not Russia.
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