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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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I think there's a huge difference between if Russian forces arrived before there was any appeal for help, and after. If it's the former then he invaded a country with no legal justification for it. Which is why everyone is against him here.

You don't need to like the governments of NATO or in Kiev to realize that Russia is completely wrong here. This is a simple grab to try and protect the Eurasian Union that Putin has been trying to set up for Years, that a Pro-russian Ukraine was a big part of.
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Russia's forces are there since 15 fucking years - can you not wrap your head around this? There was also a threat on their bases, soldiers and ethnic Russians, this happened before, many times, they did nothing illegal and now go back to watching BBC or something.
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Putin can't back down now due to the US's threats..America already won the cold war and brought down the Soviet Union, he won't want to lose twice in a row.
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Video

@itvnews: UN envoy Robert Serry and @jamesmatesitv trapped by militia blocking Crimea cafe entrance [link to t.co] [link to t.co]
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POLAND HOLDS RUSSIAN FORCES IN CRIMEA RESPONSIBLE FOR SAFETY OF POLISH CITIZENS, JOURNALISTS, SIKORSKY SAYS

Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.

Or something
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@L0gg0l: RUSSIA'S LAVROV BEGINS MEETING WITH UKRAINE ACTING FOREIGN MINISTER IN PARIS -- AFP
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Watching this right now

[link to rutube.ru]

"Detailed analysis of shooting at unarmed maidan activists"

Don't know what it's worth
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Wow this video is very telling.
Who needs a leaked phone call when you see theses bullets impacts coming from the back?

This is all staged
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Guys! Truth asked me to bump myself about this video that needs to be seen

[link to rutube.ru]

Plz someone embed this
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we cant embed it but make sure you all watch it

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POLAND HOLDS RUSSIAN FORCES IN CRIMEA RESPONSIBLE FOR SAFETY OF POLISH CITIZENS, JOURNALISTS, SIKORSKY SAYS

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This is the latest attempt to get NATO directly involved
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.

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Again, I'm not here to defend any NATO actions. I haven't agreed with many of them either, it doesn't make what Russia's doing any less BS.

Cimera is still a part of the Ukraine, and the idea that they can hold a referendum for independence while Russian troops are inside the country is ludicrous. Would you trust an election conducted while a foreign army was occupying a US state? If they want independence they can peruse that on their own, and hell, with Russian help, but none of that justifies the Russian army occupying the territory in the interim.
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Not to mention a good part of western UA belongs to Poland. City of Lviv and so on. Poles expected to get it after WW2 but Stalin gave it to UA instead.

Original UA borders and its history:

[link to upload.wikimedia.org]
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There isn't any future in fighting a past war.
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There's no future in fighting any war, and perhaps no future in fighting a big war. That's why I say, US, EU, WTF? back the fuck off already.

Who can make this puppet show shut-up already?

BTW it seems to me the hysteria is entirely one-sided - and by one side I mean everyone ganging up on Russia - these putschists, EU, US.

I think the rest of the world just wondering WTF happened?
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It's one sided because Russia invaded another country out of the blue with nothing but trumped up pretenses over protecting Russian speakers in Ukraine, whom we've seen no evidence are in danger.
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Putin can't back down now due to the US's threats..America already won the cold war and brought down the Soviet Union, he won't want to lose twice in a row.
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this...plus the players behind the scenes, ya know the ones who claim no national boundaries (globalists) so don't give a damn...they're starting this all: economic collapse, war, etc...the same "conspiracies" we've been talking about forever here, the day is close where the chaos breaks and they try to force us into their "order"...
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@Reuters: RT @ReutersWorld: NATO suspends planning for joint mission with Russia to protect U.S. ship that will destroy Syrian chemical weapons: Rasmussen

@Reuters: RT @ReutersWorld: NATO's Rasmussen announces review of all NATO cooperation with Russia over events in Ukraine #breaking
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POLAND HOLDS RUSSIAN FORCES IN CRIMEA RESPONSIBLE FOR SAFETY OF POLISH CITIZENS, JOURNALISTS, SIKORSKY SAYS

 Quoting: RelentlessDespot


This is the latest attempt to get NATO directly involved
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Scheming Bastards!
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Hey!!


Im at work and cna't do anything right now, but I'm following this Ukraine FB

they are pleading for news reporters- can someone check on this and make a thread and keep it updated ???


[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]

(interpreted in Russian - link above the page)

JOURNALISTS NEEDED IN CRIMEA
Verified information. Share plz journalists and all who are not indifferent! Now in need of urgent attention: - Head of the Ukrainian Navy in Sevastopol - Military part in Feodosia - Kerch ferry. Please journalists who have the opportunity (several crews) to be there permanently or on duty with colleagues. Write to us, we will co-ordinate with the person who will help make the ma

forced ones: krym.sos.info @ gmail.com
is now the headquarters of the Ukrainian Navy is under siege, to be more precise military town (street Rudnev, Sevastopol, the military part of the PPC opposite Fourchette.)
The Russian military forces to capture the headquarters no. So they took oblogu cantonment. Tried turning off the lights in the morning, 3 hours included as a source of the words on the same line is the trolleybus depot. To similar reason can not shut off the water - it paralyzes the whole area, which is a military town.
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Doom or no doom, this thread is going to 1000 biatches!!!
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Doom or no doom, this thread is going to 1000 biatches!!!
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There's still doom. Someone follow that FB page I posted - they are pleading for people who are neutral to get the real news out.
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Doom or no doom, this thread is going to 1000 biatches!!!
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hesright
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AndersFogh Rasmussen‏@AndersFoghR19 mins

No staff-level civilian or military meetings w/ #Russia for now – decisions to be taken by #NATO #ForMin in April





US Mission to NATO ‏@USNATO12 mins

"We have an excellent partnership with #Ukraine within #NATO-Ukraine Commission"--#NATO SecGen
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Doom or no doom, this thread is going to 1000 biatches!!!
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How far do these boards even allow threads to go? I don't know that I've ever seen a 1000 page one, though it might have gotten there with some of the Israel-Syria stuff.
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Juli Lugovska ‏@asya_lugovska 48s
#Russian Minister of Foreign Afdairs #Lavrov refused to negotiate with #Ukrainian minister.


Well, that didn't go well! :)
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@asya_lugovska: #Russian Minister of Foreign Afdairs #Lavrov refused to negotiate with #Ukrainian minister.
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There's no future in fighting any war, and perhaps no future in fighting a big war. That's why I say, US, EU, WTF? back the fuck off already.

Who can make this puppet show shut-up already?

BTW it seems to me the hysteria is entirely one-sided - and by one side I mean everyone ganging up on Russia - these putschists, EU, US.

I think the rest of the world just wondering WTF happened?
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It's one sided because Russia invaded another country out of the blue with nothing but trumped up pretenses over protecting Russian speakers in Ukraine, whom we've seen no evidence are in danger.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38331435


There was NO INVASION, almost all the military was lawfully on the peninsula and the LEGAL PRESIDENT asked Russia for help. God, I give up .
another do
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As I said before, they not only arrived before he asked for help, he has no permission to do so. You people are selectively choosing which facts to acknowledge.

Russian forces have sized several Ukrainian military bases. There's no legal justification for that, not even if the President did say pretty please. He's the president, not the King.
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How do you know when he first asked for help? Maybe he did it when he was in Crimea on Feb. 26 after the assassination attempt. And what does it matter if he is not complaining now knowing all that has happened?

How do you know his permissions? Have you studied the procedure for declaring state of emergency in Ukraine? Do you know who has the authority to grant permission for Russian troops to laeve their bases, and when that permission is needed? Clearly troops stationed on a base legally can leave that base without parliamentary approval, can't they?

Nobody has been harmed seizing the bases, Yes it is not legal and one can fault them for it but what I am saying is the overreaction is just mind-numbing.

And how do you suppose a government should operate if a group of militants violently overthrow the President and threaten and intimidate the legislature (beating legislators, ransacking and burning their homes, threatening phone calls, etc.) while armed gangs roam the government center?
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Juli Lugovska ‏@asya_lugovska 3m
Meanwhile strange movements of #Russian troops have been noticed close to mainland #Ukraine. #Crimea.


Not sure how current - but it just popped up.
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In Kiev reached 300 foreign mercenaries and specialists for political provocation

14:58 05/03/2014.

Military and diplomatic sources in Kiev discovered that in the capital of Ukraine received about 300 foreign mercenaries with a rich experience of war "under contract" in Iraq, Afghanistan and other countries - announced Russia's global TV Russia Today.

Source referred to by the Russian television, which broadcasts mainly in English, did not reveal ethnic composition of the squad, but he pointed out that most Americans do.

Tonight is also reported that in Kiev arrived "team of specialists in PR and political provocation."

[link to fakti.org]
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btw why dow looks like a richter scale today?
[link to finance.yahoo.com]
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Doom or no doom, this thread is going to 1000 biatches!!!
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How far do these boards even allow threads to go? I don't know that I've ever seen a 1000 page one, though it might have gotten there with some of the Israel-Syria stuff.
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Naah.. Not even in Top 10.. Yet. :)
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Juli Lugovska ‏@asya_lugovska 48s
#Russian Minister of Foreign Afdairs #Lavrov refused to negotiate with #Ukrainian minister.


Well, that didn't go well! :)
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Lol didn't last long. Doom on again!
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"@CBCAlerts: #NATO chief suspends meetings with #Russia, puts alliance's cooperation with Russia under review: AP #Ukraine"
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I think there's a huge difference between if Russian forces arrived before there was any appeal for help, and after. If it's the former then he invaded a country with no legal justification for it. Which is why everyone is against him here.

You don't need to like the governments of NATO or in Kiev to realize that Russia is completely wrong here. This is a simple grab to try and protect the Eurasian Union that Putin has been trying to set up for Years, that a Pro-russian Ukraine was a big part of.
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Russia's forces are there since 15 fucking years - can you not wrap your head around this? There was also a threat on their bases, soldiers and ethnic Russians, this happened before, many times, they did nothing illegal and now go back to watching BBC or something.
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Russia DID have agreements to have troops in Crimea as you say.
Nobody would have a whole fleet of unguarded ships, come on. So, the reasonable 25K troop limit.

I believe Putin is open to elections in the Crimea for independence or not. Someone should ask.
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BBC News (World) ‏@BBCWorld 30s
BBC's Bridget Kendall hears from diplomatic sources the US/EU meeting with Lavrov "was not an easy conversation" [link to bbc.in]


I bet.





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