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Kent User ID: 54313590 Norway 03/23/2014 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Almost missed Kent's post..yes he did nail it. Fast & furious action and "elections" by impulsive bunch before wrecking the place. And too the reason defense is spun as offense..provocation. So, then, let's take another step up the ladder.(better view sometimes if not obscured by clouds). You all have noticed, I presume, that the destabilization of countries within the EU is an ongoing and fairly developed process and has been for a while. Think about it in terms of geopolitical strategies. A strong and unified Europe is considered a real threat to the US hegemony in all fields of interests. As entities both the EU and Nato are weak, indecisive, controllable (to a very high extent) as they are meant to be (in the US textbook that is). We might laugh at the Bushes/Rumsfeld's/Kerry's/Obama's of this world, but, it would be a sincere mistake to underestimate the powers behind. They have been at it for a very long time, and cynically speaking with a high rate of success I must admit. The odds against Russia are formidable, there are traps for every step (not necessarily the ones you read about, far from actually) and if they loose their pragmatic approach it will get even harder. There are many interesting trees and paths in a forest. Take care In what ways then might you consider EU and Nato weak? Devastation so far is making complete, steady advances for a very long 14 yrs with a pit bull persistence of NOT ENDING. Most endeavors to change any nation have had a life of about 7 years when considering those in the last 100 years or so. Doesn't matter who we're laughing at necessarily, and quite honestly I for one don't have a good feeling about Putin prevailing no matter how he plays this or how smart he is. We've seen it too many times already. No coordinated political structure, no coordinated military structure. Line of command in both structures are purely theoretical (the practical exemplifications of this was clearly shown in the "NATO run all by themselves show" in the war against Libya) All the weaknesses of both structures was on display for all to see. First test-run to do stuff by themselves, without Uncle Sam as the front-runner. Nice set-up by the US, sitting quietly in the background as the Grand master, feeding satellite, ground Intel and high level military advice to the NATO generals they chose to in command of the operation. Lot's of protests from military high ranking personnel, Defense Secretaries from several NATO countries, to no avail. Not forgotten by some I can assure you. The reluctance to be drawn into other conflicts like puppets on strings is quite strong. The Nuland, F**k EU is not easily forgotten either, but there seems to be no way out for anybody because all are participating in the same Ponzi scheme (remember the Coco Nuts and the gold in one of my previous posts. ' Desperate - Yes. Stuck - Yes. Did this shed some lights to your question? Take care |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55935486 United States 03/23/2014 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 The Russian government propaganda bout Nazis taking over Ukraine would be hilarious if so many Russians didnt fall for it... reality - Ukraine's new Prime Minister - moderate, Jew new Vice PM - moderate, Jew new President - moderate, ethnic Russian the two front running parties in the Parliament now are center-moderate parties - [link to en.wikipedia.org] [link to en.wikipedia.org] The two front-runners for President are Klitchko and Poroshenko, both from center-right parties. |
Limpan
User ID: 1474973 Sweden 03/23/2014 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 @RamiAlLolah 29s Quoting: djdandew1 HUUGE! #BreakingNews #Russia|n warships reportedly leaving #Tartus naval facility towards unknown destination. @Paradoxy13 37m Sources to Lebnese Elnashra say that #Russian warships in Tartus are moving towards the Turkish borders in #Latakia. Link And how do they know??? |
Patriot_In_Waiting
User ID: 47638920 United States 03/23/2014 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 @RamiAlLolah 29s Quoting: djdandew1 HUUGE! #BreakingNews #Russia|n warships reportedly leaving #Tartus naval facility towards unknown destination. @Paradoxy13 37m Sources to Lebnese Elnashra say that #Russian warships in Tartus are moving towards the Turkish borders in #Latakia. Maybe a response to Turkey shooting Syrian plane down? Maybe about Bosporus ? Whatever it is is going to be obvious soon This really could be WW3 shaping up Patriot_In_Waiting My name is patriot_in_waiting and I'm a GLPTARD If we get caught.....I'm deaf, and you don't speak English |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55988613 Italy 03/23/2014 06:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Luis, just a tip: "Russia ready to annex Moldova region, Nato commander claims" is old (this morning). IMHO it's better include the Crimea power related things at this point |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 51098129 United Kingdom 03/23/2014 06:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Sergey Aksenov @ sergyaksenov 1h Quoting: Puckerfactor Important. Ukrainian national energy company "Ukrenergo" reduced the amount of electricity supplied to the Crimea by 50% Sergey Aksenov @ sergyaksenov 1h Reducing supply - is an attempt to blackmail Kiev Russia through the Crimea to bargain for something. Cheap trick is inadequate. # Crimea Hello GLP-family! Hope you had a nice weekend..next days could bring even more excitement than last week. So, what can you report personally ? Have you seen anything strange? Troop movements etc? I have nothing to report so fa from Germany. But: what is the situation in the Baltic states or Turkey? Have a nice week! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55961090 United Kingdom 03/23/2014 06:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 not really, "The reduction of supply is an attempt to blackmail the RUSSIAN FEDERATION through the Crimea" Temirgaliev noted that the declining energy supplies Kiev used the latter method influence on Crimea. "The guys really have lost relevance, went to similar methods against the crimeans. But except for power outages, no other way to affect us. Crimeans will become stronger, "said Temirgaliev. "The reduction of supply is an attempt to blackmail the Russian Federation through the Crimea to Kiev in order to gain something," said first Vice Prime Minister of Crimea. He called such a move "stupidity". "This is due to the stupidity of the people can not explain anything else. We have no debt. Reasons for outages No. Just "trained", so to speak, "he added. maybe they want russia to cut the gas in retaliation, which also cuts germany. last time russia cut the gas, ukraine kept on using the gas therefore affecting germanys supply. |
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RelentlessDespot
Abrasive Fuck User ID: 53839221 United States 03/23/2014 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 FACT: Russia stands alone in its unjustified aggression towards Ukraine. Fact: The UN universally condemns Russia's actions, as does the G8 and the OCSE outside of Russia's vote. Fact: Putin is a rogue leader using a massive web of propaganda on his own people to stir them to war over false pretenses, creating a dangerously rogue nation. Fact: Russia will fail in this irrational madness they are creating. There is no winning option for Russia. Your perception of this situation is flawed. You have obviously not been following the situation closely. Turn off fox news and cnn. Do yourself that favor and then come back and we'll talk. yea, come back when you get all your info from unreliable, unsubstantiated forum threads based on unknown twitter feeds! DUH! Why again are you here then? To enlighten us with fox/cnn parroted bullshit? I could just watch them is I wanted regurgitated government propaganda. Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me. Or something |
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Nordic Wolf
User ID: 55984735 Sweden 03/23/2014 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 The Russian government propaganda bout Nazis taking over Ukraine would be hilarious if so many Russians didnt fall for it... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55935486 reality - Ukraine's new Prime Minister - moderate, Jew new Vice PM - moderate, Jew new President - moderate, ethnic Russian the two front running parties in the Parliament now are center-moderate parties - [link to en.wikipedia.org] [link to en.wikipedia.org] The two front-runners for President are Klitchko and Poroshenko, both from center-right parties. You wont get anywhere speaking a language not many in here understands. it takes time and effort to become fluent in "logic".. Some friendly advise, put on your finest flame-retardant suit and enjoy the show.. :) Loosing an illusion makes you wiser than finding a truth. ~Ludwig Börne Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it. ~Andre Gide Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw |
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NawtyBits
User ID: 47664260 United States 03/23/2014 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: NawtyBits Oh, I suspect they will pay, but, they are within their rights to shut it down. It's all about unintended consequences. One of the unintended consequences of the annexation of Crimea might just be Russia is now responsible for it. And one of the unintended consequences of shutting off the power may be action by Russia. But, UKR seems to be within their legal rights. And for Russia to act on that militarily will be harder for the rest of the world to swallow. What can they do anyway? Wait for Ukraine to enter the EU and then wait for another 50 years for the money? That's a perfect excuse for Russia to actually do something right now. Excuses are different that reasons. Agree, but there is a reason. Money. Isn't this the reason for every war? $10B is not enough to start a WW over. WWJBD-What Would Jimmy Buffett Do "If it's wet and not yours, don't touch it." Oregon H1N1 Summit speaker |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26215600 Luxembourg 03/23/2014 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Rami ‏@RamiAlLolah · 16m Quoting: Unit 88 Huge explosion rocks #Latakia city again now.. #Syria Assad has a strong hold on the coastal region. Turkey again? [link to www.aljazeera.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55961090 United Kingdom 03/23/2014 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Rami ‏@RamiAlLolah · 16m Quoting: Unit 88 Huge explosion rocks #Latakia city again now.. #Syria Assad has a strong hold on the coastal region. Turkey again? regional commander of the forces of national defense Hilal Asadon killed north of Latakia Hilal is a cousin of President Bashar al-Assad. Along with him were killed in a battle near the border with Turkey city Kasab another seven soldiers. |
RelentlessDespot
Abrasive Fuck User ID: 53839221 United States 03/23/2014 06:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 it is always the opposite.. I do in fact know what my president said.. Shocking I know.. because I live here.. Quoting: RelentlessDespot It is always the opposite. US won't do shit but sit and take it in the butt from Russia and China. wtf are you talking about? They don't teach Romanians to read? Might want to look into it.. Comes in handy. I'm talking about US not itching for war. Look back at the dialogue. Then why did they fund/organize a bloody and illegal coup in Ukraine. Side note- sorry for the comment on reading ability - I know our perceptions are 180 degrees but you seem honest about it. One of the shills ticked me off. Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me. Or something |
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Sun_dancer
User ID: 48671548 United States 03/23/2014 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Ukraine’s Yatsenyuk cancels visit to The Hague to round up talks with IMF mission Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45310056 World March 23, 20:15 UTC+4 KIEV, March 23, /ITAR-TASS/. Ukraine’s interim acting prime minister Arseny Yatsenyuk has cancelled a trip to The Hague he was going to make Monday. Instead, he plans to round up talks with a mission of the International Monetary Fund currently visiting Ukraine, he said. “I’m cancelling my trip to The Hague because I must hold talks with the IMF tomorrow so that we could formalize the program (of assistance),” he said. March 24-25, he was expected to take part in a nuclear security summit in The Hague. IMF mission rounds up its work in Ukraine March 25. Any leader that makes a deal with the IMF is a traitor to his country. He's just another puppet now. He doesn't have any choice, other than Russia who will fill their empty coffers? IMF knows this so will not use any lube. Sun_dancer |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55983976 Bulgaria 03/23/2014 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Rami ‏@RamiAlLolah · 16m Quoting: Unit 88 Huge explosion rocks #Latakia city again now.. #Syria Assad has a strong hold on the coastal region. Turkey again? [link to www.aljazeera.com] So, rebels then? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56008137 Ukraine 03/23/2014 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 BREAKING 2/3 of #Crimea remains without electricity. Official version: technical failure - channel 5 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55988613 Technical failure may ass if you mean by technical failure somebody in the Ukraine cut the power to Crimea. If that electricity comes from the nuclear plant built by Russia there will be a lot of smoke coming out soon! It sounds the same as Serbia has built and made everything you have in Croatia including yourself. All power plants in Eastern Europe were built in time of the USSR where Russia was one of fifteen republics, so stop to bullshit everything was made solely by Russia. BTW, in view of available industrial and scientific potential, as well as available raw materials, Ukraine is able to build nuclear power plants and make a nuclear weapon. As for raw materials, Ukraine ranks first in Europe and six in the world in proven uranium ore reserves and it possesses singular titanium-zircon reserves. Today Russia's need in zircon is covered mainly by supplies from Ukraine. Russia was also planning to increase purchases of uranium ore from Ukraine to meet its need. So, Russia is far from to be something unique. |
Nordic Wolf
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