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Janey
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 61530618 Japan 08/13/2014 07:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 FEARS THAT PUTIN WILL USE REJECTION OF AID CONVOY AS PRETEXT FOR MILITARY INTERVENTION - NATO Quoting: Janey My worry would be that he will just order them to cross the border anyway and "hope" that Ukraine attacks it, which would clearly be a pretext for an intervention. IMO the next omg tweet will read something like this, Putin's aid trucks blast through Ukraine checkpoints, unclear which side fired first. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 61435505 United Kingdom 08/13/2014 07:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Wait, i thought they had an agreement on this convoy a few days ago. Why this last minute turnaround? Lavrov lied, what else is new... There was a agreement, or why would the Ukrainian Emergency Situations Service setup a camp for the convoy? |
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Tpotleoz
User ID: 61478689 Australia 08/13/2014 07:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 'Semion Yudkovich Mogilevich (… born June 30, 1946) is a Jewish Ukrainian-born organized crime boss, believed by European and United States federal law enforcement agencies to be the“boss of bosses” of most Russian Mafia syndicates in the world.Mogilevich was born in Kiev‘s Podol neighborhood to a Jewish family. He is believed to direct a vast criminal empire and is described by the FBI as “the most dangerous mobster in the world”. [link to www.fbi.gov] Quoting: Tpotleoz Like almost all Jewish criminals he has an Israeli passport and has resided in Israel off and on for at least 3 years .Unlike most gangsters this one is educated He has a degree in economics from Lviv University He is said to control RosUkrEnergo , a company actively involved in Russia–Ukraine gas disputes.Mogilevich is believed to have ordered many assassinations of his enemies across the world, including both shootings and car-bombs.' [link to wideawakegentile.wordpress.com] why aren't you obsessed with the "Zionist" takeover of Ukraine and why do you support it? After all, they are the ones who started the conflict, and replaced the Christian oligarch. Ukraine doesn't decide the outcome of this situation. Ukrainians suffer regardless of who prevails. That is why. Last Edited by Tpotleoz on 08/13/2014 07:56 AM Eat the Reds |
°Lucy°
User ID: 61526290 Germany 08/13/2014 07:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 FEARS THAT PUTIN WILL USE REJECTION OF AID CONVOY AS PRETEXT FOR MILITARY INTERVENTION - NATO Quoting: Janey Its what they have been seeking, Will the convoy just go through Humanitarian Invasion..... "He who people call a fool is not a fool, but he who takes flattery for Truth, is." |
KipKat
User ID: 25952351 Netherlands 08/13/2014 07:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 is that so? {snip} A day before Mr Avakov said the convoy would not be allowed in, Ukrainian officials set conditions for its entry. Security Council spokesman Andriy Lysenko said aid should pass through a government-controlled border post and be accompanied by Red Cross officials. [link to www.bbc.com] Where is his agreement he said he had with the ICRC? can you read? Yes, I can! quoting: "On Wednesday, UK Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond called on Russia to "state without undue delay the items they intend to supply" and respect the neutrality of the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC). The ICRC has said it still needs more security guarantees and information about the aid convoy." Short for; Russia hasn't complied by the conditions set by the ICRC, no deal yet, meaning Lavrov lied! But seeing it's from the BBC (evil western propaganda, lol :D)you'll ignore it. :kkwapper: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 61578788 Netherlands 08/13/2014 07:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 FEARS THAT PUTIN WILL USE REJECTION OF AID CONVOY AS PRETEXT FOR MILITARY INTERVENTION - NATO Quoting: Janey Honestly, if Ukraine let them in with strict guidelines and surveillance and have them check the trucks for what kind of supplies they are carrying or take it from there when they reach the border, there wouldn't be much of a problem. By flat out denying access you give Russia reason to say "We tried to handle this in direct negotiations with Ukraine but they just refused, so now we will take matters into our own hands." Either it was intended that way or Kiev's government is that stupid. Look, i recall an agreement of a convoy being sent to Lugansk with Ukraine's consent and working with Red Cross. Atleast, that was the initial plan. Both sides reported the same thing. I was surprised Kiev even agreed with it in the first place when i heard about it. It's just that the conditions/terms have changed atleast once every day ever since news started appearing about it. There's a lot of miscommunication here and i'm fairly sure this will be used in some way. |
RTS REDUX
User ID: 57849075 United States 08/13/2014 07:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 KIEV, August 13. /ITAR-TASS/. Ukraine can accept any humanitarian aid only under international law and solely from the Red Cross, Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk said on Wednesday. The Ukrainian premier’s statement came after Russia had dispatched a huge convoy of humanitarian aid to residents of war-torn eastern Ukraine escorted by representatives from the International Committee of the Red Cross. <50% [link to en.itar-tass.com] |
°Lucy°
User ID: 61526290 Germany 08/13/2014 07:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Answers to media questions by Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov Sochi, 12 August 2014 [link to www.mid.ru] "He who people call a fool is not a fool, but he who takes flattery for Truth, is." |
FormerlyBritish
User ID: 60582120 United States 08/13/2014 07:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 FEARS THAT PUTIN WILL USE REJECTION OF AID CONVOY AS PRETEXT FOR MILITARY INTERVENTION - NATO Quoting: Janey IMO the next omg tweet will read something like this, Putin's aid trucks blast through Ukraine checkpoints, unclear which side fired first. It's a bit unlikely an unarmed convoy of trucks would fire first. Don't you think? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 60972153 United States 08/13/2014 07:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Rock Solid Politics ‏@BradCabana 49 Sek. Quoting: °Lucy° ANOTHER BROKEN #UKRAINE GOVERNMENT PROMISE: #Russia #aid camp dismantled in #Kharkiv region [link to www.kyivpost.com] … … #cdnpoli #UN #warcrimes They had already setup a camp for the convoy in Kharkiv, but removed it now. The are hoping to use it as an opportunity to goad Russia into a military attack. That is why they set up a camp to receive aid and then dismantled it as the aid convoy approached. Putin publicly stated he would 'protect' Russian primary language speakers and ethnic Russians. He either lied or failed in epic proportion. Here comes the part where you tell me Putin and Russia are the true victims in this affair. Compare it with the German air raid on Coventry on 14 November 1940. It would have been easy to save Coventry from the worst of the devastation. But then Hermann Göring would have known that the enigma code had been broken. Sometimes in war you have to let awful things happen even though you could stop them. Make no mistake Russia is fighting for its very survival, and on behalf of the rest of the BRICS who will fall if Russia were to fall. Bravo. It is comments like this which still makes it worth while visiting this thread. Meanwhile, the lunatic still have some sort of communication with god. Apparently though, the receiving end doesn't respond as it might have usually done in the past. So, in an act of desperation, He now uses microphones, amplifiers and loudspeakers trying to reestablish the lost communication. Cross in hand doesn.t seem to help much Here: [link to telemarksporten.no] Take Care |
Krispy71
User ID: 39765605 Netherlands 08/13/2014 07:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Wait, i thought they had an agreement on this convoy a few days ago. Why this last minute turnaround? Lavrov lied, what else is new... There was a agreement, or why would the Ukrainian Emergency Situations Service setup a camp for the convoy? This will backfire on the Ukrainian Govt worldwide !!! |
FormerlyBritish
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RTS REDUX
User ID: 57849075 United States 08/13/2014 07:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: RTS REDUX is that so? {snip} A day before Mr Avakov said the convoy would not be allowed in, Ukrainian officials set conditions for its entry. Security Council spokesman Andriy Lysenko said aid should pass through a government-controlled border post and be accompanied by Red Cross officials. [link to www.bbc.com] Where is his agreement he said he had with the ICRC? can you read? Yes, I can! quoting: "On Wednesday, UK Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond called on Russia to "state without undue delay the items they intend to supply" and respect the neutrality of the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC). The ICRC has said it still needs more security guarantees and information about the aid convoy." Short for; Russia hasn't complied by the conditions set by the ICRC, no deal yet, meaning Lavrov lied! But seeing it's from the BBC (evil western propaganda, lol :D)you'll ignore it. what I quoted is from the BBC you dumbass {snip} A day before Mr Avakov said the convoy would not be allowed in, Ukrainian officials set conditions for its entry. |
Janey
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 61530618 Japan 08/13/2014 08:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Rock Solid Politics ‏@BradCabana 49 Sek. Quoting: °Lucy° ANOTHER BROKEN #UKRAINE GOVERNMENT PROMISE: #Russia #aid camp dismantled in #Kharkiv region [link to www.kyivpost.com] … … #cdnpoli #UN #warcrimes They had already setup a camp for the convoy in Kharkiv, but removed it now. The are hoping to use it as an opportunity to goad Russia into a military attack. That is why they set up a camp to receive aid and then dismantled it as the aid convoy approached. Putin publicly stated he would 'protect' Russian primary language speakers and ethnic Russians. He either lied or failed in epic proportion. Here comes the part where you tell me Putin and Russia are the true victims in this affair. Compare it with the German air raid on Coventry on 14 November 1940. It would have been easy to save Coventry from the worst of the devastation. But then Hermann Göring would have known that the enigma code had been broken. Sometimes in war you have to let awful things happen even though you could stop them. Make no mistake Russia is fighting for its very survival, and on behalf of the rest of the BRICS who will fall if Russia were to fall. As I stated, Putin publicly stated he would 'protect' Russian primary language speakers and ethnic Russians. He either lied or failed in epic proportion. Here comes the part where you tell me Putin and Russia are the true victims in this affair. Nothing you write can change the above fact. |
°Lucy°
User ID: 61526290 Germany 08/13/2014 08:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 <50% Sergey Lavrov: In the past few days, we have been addressing the humanitarian crisis in southeastern Ukraine, as instructed by Russian President Vladimir Putin. We drafted a plan in cooperation with the Ukrainian authorities, the International Committee of the Red Cross and the representatives of other international organisations, including the UN and the OSCE, and the plan was finalised yesterday. At the same time, we followed all of Ukraine’s requirements without exception, including the route suggested by Kiev, although this route is much longer than the other routes used for delivering humanitarian relief aid. Nevertheless, we have accepted the route which suits the government in Kiev, we have agreed to install Ukrainian vehicle license plates on Ukrainian territory, and we have agreed that not only representatives from the ICRC and the OSCE but also Ukrainian officials should ride in the trucks carrying the humanitarian relief consignment. Everything has been agreed. We have sent an official note to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine, requesting permission to set out, and the convoy has already set out. Today we received a note confirming that Ukraine was ready to accept this assistance. I hope very much that certain public statements voiced by a few officials in Kiev today that demand new terms will be disavowed, and that they will not hinder the implementation of the agreement reached between the Russian Federation, Ukraine and the ICRC. ICRC representatives will meet the convoy at the Ukrainian border and in a populated area that has been agreed with the Ukrainian authorities. They will inspect the consignment, and will ride with the convoy to its final destination, primarily in the Lugansk Region. [link to www.mid.ru] "He who people call a fool is not a fool, but he who takes flattery for Truth, is." |
XanaduDWI
User ID: 44414453 United States 08/13/2014 08:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 FEARS THAT PUTIN WILL USE REJECTION OF AID CONVOY AS PRETEXT FOR MILITARY INTERVENTION - NATO Quoting: Janey Just accept the help Ukraine! If its a trap, then at least you have supplies and food to the people before it gets bad. Cant believe im saying this but Putin is being very generous even if its tricky. Take the stuff and run. |
RTS REDUX
User ID: 57849075 United States 08/13/2014 08:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 'Semion Yudkovich Mogilevich (… born June 30, 1946) is a Jewish Ukrainian-born organized crime boss, believed by European and United States federal law enforcement agencies to be the“boss of bosses” of most Russian Mafia syndicates in the world.Mogilevich was born in Kiev‘s Podol neighborhood to a Jewish family. He is believed to direct a vast criminal empire and is described by the FBI as “the most dangerous mobster in the world”. [link to www.fbi.gov] Quoting: Tpotleoz Like almost all Jewish criminals he has an Israeli passport and has resided in Israel off and on for at least 3 years .Unlike most gangsters this one is educated He has a degree in economics from Lviv University He is said to control RosUkrEnergo , a company actively involved in Russia–Ukraine gas disputes.Mogilevich is believed to have ordered many assassinations of his enemies across the world, including both shootings and car-bombs.' [link to wideawakegentile.wordpress.com] why aren't you obsessed with the "Zionist" takeover of Ukraine and why do you support it? After all, they are the ones who started the conflict, and replaced the Christian oligarch. Ukraine doesn't decide the outcome of this situation. Ukrainians suffer regardless of who prevails. That is why. wat? |
Krispy71
User ID: 39765605 Netherlands 08/13/2014 08:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61578788 Wait, i thought they had an agreement on this convoy a few days ago. Why this last minute turnaround? Lavrov lied, what else is new... There was a agreement, or why would the Ukrainian Emergency Situations Service setup a camp for the convoy? Please provide a link to the official paper with the agreement.. All there was was confusion, sides talking straight past eachother and the usual political games from all sides..... :communication: Please KipKat did you READ the informative posts at al ??!?!?!! There were many links from different sources !!! - Steve Rosenberg @BBCSteveR So, looks like there will be a humanitarian aid convoy to Luhansk. Agreed by Kiev & Moscow. US & German support. - zerohedge ‏@zerohedge POROSHENKO SAYS LUHANSK MISSION WOULD INVOLVE U.S., EU, RUSSIA. - Lavrov said that the details of the humanitarian operation agreed with Kiev [link to en.itar-tass.com] - Michael Riedmüller ‏@riedmueller Russian aid convoy just allowed to enter #Ukraine under Ukrainian control, says Poroshenko adiviser Valery Chaly. [link to www.rte.ie] - GENEVA, August 12. /ITAR-TASS/. The International Red Cross (IRC) says it has received notification from Russia that the humanitarian convoy is on the way towards the border with Ukraine, IRC spokeswoman Anastasia Isyuk told ITAR-TASS, adding that Moscow was expected to provide further details of the operation. [link to en.itar-tass.com] - 08/12 18:21 MOSCOW PERPLEXED BY KYIV'S STATEMENT ON LACK OF AGREEMENT ON ROUTE OF HUMANITARIAN CONVOY, INSISTS THAT PROPER AGREEMENTS EXIST - FOREIGN MINISTRY 08/12 18:20 HUMANITARIAN AID FOR SOUTHEASTERN UKRAINE WILL BE TAKEN TO BORDER WITH KHARKIV REGION AND THEN PROCEED UNDER ICRC SUPERVISION - RUSSIAN FOREIGN MINISTRY - Russian aid convoy will be accompanied by OSCE inside Ukraine [link to www.kyivpost.com] - 08/12 20:13 Moscow receives note from Kyiv confirming willingness to accept humanitarian aid from Russia - Lavrov -Interfax - Ukraine ready to accept Russia’s humanitarian aid - Lavrov [link to rt.com] - Red Cross to lead relief effort to eastern Ukraine [link to www.usatoday.com] Ukraine said Monday the Red Cross will lead an multilnational group -- including Russia -- in a humanitarian mission to the besieged city of Luhansk in eastern Ukraine, but that no Russian soldiers would be allowed to participate. Ukraine had previously objected to Russian involvement in any humanitarian effort out of concern that any relief convoy might be used as a cover for a Russian invasion. Kiev said the agreement was made with the International Red Cross Committee, along with Russia, the European Union and the United States. Ukraine's foreign ministry said Kiev would provide the relief goods for the mission and that logistical support, including the delivery and distribution of goods, would be provided by the Red Cross and Ukraine. A senior official in Ukraine's presidential administration told the Kiev Post that "Russia will have a formal part, but there will be no Russian [military] forces, no soldiers." President Petro Poroshenko's office said in a statement that the plan had received backing from President Barack Obama. He added that he spoke to President Obama on Monday and that the U.S. would take an "active part" in the mission. - Ukraine and Russia 'agree' to aid mission to Luhansk [link to www.bbc.com] Ukraine and Russia say they have agreed to a Red Cross-led humanitarian aid mission to the eastern Ukrainian rebel stronghold of Luhansk. In a statement, the Red Cross said it was ready to begin aid delivery but needed more details about the aid from Russia before it could begin. .... so again it will take time until aid gets moving .... The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) laid down strict guidelines to uphold its neutral role. It said that before any aid operation started, Russia would need to provide details including the volume and type of items, as well transport and storage requirements. "All parties must also guarantee the security of ICRC staff and vehicles, for the entire duration of the operation" the ICRC's Laurent Corbaz said. - Maria Antonova @ mashant Peskov says humanitarian convoy has been agreed with Kiev, will not have military escort, doesn't know when it will start moving. - Kiev confirms [link to mfa.gov.ua] - BBC News (World) @BBCWorld Humanitarian aid mission to Luhansk agreed with EU, Russian & US involvement, Ukraine leader says [link to www.bbc.com] xxxK Last Edited by Krispy71 on 08/13/2014 08:10 AM |
Newshunter
User ID: 22884594 United States 08/13/2014 08:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 James Miller@MillerMENA · 15h Ukrainian Troops Retreat From Russian Border, Leaving 100 Kilometers Open to Invasion [link to www.thedailybeast.com] |
°Lucy°
User ID: 61526290 Germany 08/13/2014 08:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Robbie Wallis ‏@sterion75 54 Sek. RT BREAKING In coming hours Poroshenko will have a extraordinary NSDC meeting to form #Ukraine official stand point. [link to onpress.info] … "He who people call a fool is not a fool, but he who takes flattery for Truth, is." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 61530618 Japan 08/13/2014 08:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 FEARS THAT PUTIN WILL USE REJECTION OF AID CONVOY AS PRETEXT FOR MILITARY INTERVENTION - NATO Quoting: Janey My worry would be that he will just order them to cross the border anyway and "hope" that Ukraine attacks it, which would clearly be a pretext for an intervention. NATO sources have told me this morning that if Russia diverts the convoy to a border area controlled by the separatists then it will enter Ukraine whether Kiev likes it or not. The downside to that is Kiev are making a lot of noise about such a scenario being an open attack from Russia. Right...food...water...blankets and medicines to civilians who have suffered war crimes is an attack? In whose universe would this be an "attack"? Has Kiev gone totally insane? How do you intend on proving Russian aide trucks only carry food, water, blankets? |
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FormerlyBritish
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Newshunter
User ID: 22884594 United States 08/13/2014 08:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 max seddon@maxseddon · 2h Yatsenyuk says Ukraine will only take humanitarian aid from the Red Cross. Those Russian trucks will have to wait. [link to ria.ru] … |
°Lucy°
User ID: 61526290 Germany 08/13/2014 08:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux My worry would be that he will just order them to cross the border anyway and "hope" that Ukraine attacks it, which would clearly be a pretext for an intervention. NATO sources have told me this morning that if Russia diverts the convoy to a border area controlled by the separatists then it will enter Ukraine whether Kiev likes it or not. The downside to that is Kiev are making a lot of noise about such a scenario being an open attack from Russia. Right...food...water...blankets and medicines to civilians who have suffered war crimes is an attack? In whose universe would this be an "attack"? Has Kiev gone totally insane? How do you intend on proving Russian aide trucks only carry food, water, blankets? How about: ICRC representatives will meet the convoy at the Ukrainian border and in a populated area that has been agreed with the Ukrainian authorities. They will inspect the consignment, and will ride with the convoy to its final destination, primarily in the Lugansk Region. "He who people call a fool is not a fool, but he who takes flattery for Truth, is." |
Tpotleoz
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