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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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I see France and Germany leaving NATO. Economic interests come first. France has a nuclear deterrent. So they need not fear a Russian invasion. Germany can quickly acquire this. Germany and France leaving both the EU and NATO would greatly benefit their countries. So it will happen if the US loses economic power and shtf.
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France isn't part of Nato.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57700819


putin
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]
"French withdrawal

NATO's unity was breached early in its history with a crisis occurring during Charles de Gaulle's presidency of France. De Gaulle protested the United States' strong role in the organization and what he perceived as a special relationship between it and the United Kingdom. In a memorandum sent to President Dwight D. Eisenhower and Prime Minister Harold Macmillan on 17 September 1958, he argued for the creation of a tripartite directorate that would put France on an equal footing with the US and the UK.[29]

Considering the response he received to his memorandum unsatisfactory, de Gaulle began constructing an independent defence force for his country. He wanted to give France, in the event of an East German incursion into West Germany, the option of coming to a separate peace with the Eastern bloc instead of being drawn into a larger NATO-Warsaw Pact war.[30] In February 1959, France withdrew its Mediterranean Fleet from NATO command.[31] He later banned the stationing of foreign nuclear weapons on French soil. This caused the United States to transfer two hundred military aircraft out of France and return control of the air force bases that had operated in France since 1950 to the French by 1967.

Though France showed solidarity with the rest of NATO during the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962, de Gaulle continued his pursuit of an independent defence by removing France's Atlantic and Channel fleets from NATO command.[32] In 1966, all French armed forces were removed from NATO's integrated military command, and all non-French NATO troops were asked to leave France. U.S. Secretary of State Dean Rusk was later quoted as asking de Gaulle whether his order included "the bodies of American soldiers in France's cemeteries?"[33] This withdrawal forced the relocation of SHAPE from Rocquencourt, near Paris, to Casteau, north of Mons, Belgium, by 16 October 1967.[34] France remained a member of the alliance, and committed to the defence of Europe from possible Warsaw Pact attack with its own forces stationed in the Federal Republic of Germany throughout the Cold War. A series of secret accords between US and French officials, the Lemnitzer-Ailleret Agreements, detailed how French forces would dovetail back into NATO's command structure should East-W"
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For the time de Gaulle of France was self excluded from military NATO, while remaining within the NATO politically. Now France is back in the NATO military.

Just go to the NATO website and look. It's not hard.

They leave and join all the time. (Ironic)
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What? France is a part of NATO.
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France is a part of NATO when they need money from the USA. Fed-reserve will be out of money soon.
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FED will never be out of money. The question is when will other countries dont accept dollars amy longer.
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read the news. they stopped printing money like 2 months ago. and there is a currency warfare is coming.
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Sorry you are wrong.
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Well if we're talking about all Qaeda in chechnya , let's not forget they are run and funded by Saudi Arabia. Americas best friend in the mideast.
 Quoting: missanthropic55


No. We are talking about Russian 9/11 that "happened" couple of years before american one.
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Both "9/11s" with courtesy of saudi
 Quoting: missanthropic55


Nope. First one was courtesy of FSB and Putin and second one by Banksters. Saudis were just diversion.
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To this very day Saudi Arabia is still using terrorist threats to blackmail and intimidate. Prince Bandar bin sultan has been caught saying they control Chechen rebels.
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Starvation as weapon?
Burning building of people inside?

Old games still good? I prefer RISK(tm).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57700234


you will die from starvation. Set up.
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Not me buddy I know Yuri Bezmenoff I will be ready. I study Russian nuke films to know how to survive. I eat squrriel, I not allow Satanic ZioMarx victims of Russian lands to soldier here in USA, nope. Come as tourist and friend or escape Russia by sneaking out through India like Yuri to be our ally.


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you are not in the USA. Your English is sucking into your mouth.
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I try to post only to update here on donetsk but very hard read deny there nationalist operating in Ukraine. I stay home all day and family but there lots of talk about that, and people see them and are threatend by them.
I am Ukrainian but we have this problem in Ukraine, there many people who wish to be heard with federalization but Kyiv doesn't want to heard from us as we know Kyiv is been helped by others a lot. How can we trust the people now in Kyiv if not heard us and send here people who hate us to threaten? I fear for my family because wife Russian, but more by the Donetsk region. We don't know what they do when get permanent power.
The other thing Putin won't come he must be afraid because the other side, and is mostly through Rossians from near border with us and Crimea who might be helping us and there lots of people in Donetsk who support federalization, but what they say Ukrainian military too many people and good equipped, referendum very difficult.
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I don't know what to say, except I hope you and your wife will be safe and well, and if you don't go out taking part in either side, you should be. Stock up on drinking water, food, cans etc. and have batteries and candles and torches. Protect your wife and family, unfortunately people are being used so better to stay out of it and let them battle it out.

I'm sorry you guys go through this hf
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14:41 Russia sent tenths of Mig-29 and Su-27 fighter planes and Tu-22 bombers in the military bases from Crimea.
translated from [link to www.hotnews.ro]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49906773


I tried to link to the video of that and created a thread and none showed up! Censorship is in place for sure. Unseen.....
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Believe me now? They wouldn't let me post that vid last night. Now it's all over the news.....
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Germany called for a new Geneva conference on Ukraine

[link to news.liga.net]
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Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 4m
#Russia moves military hardware to Sevastopol for May 9th Victory Day celebration. Could keep it there for "further use" #Ukraine #Crimea
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Kill Vehicles are first line of defense against ballistic missile threats:

[link to www.raytheon.com]

[link to pic.twitter.com]


so far in tests, 34 kills out of 34 attempts
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yea putting weapons in space will be a very good idea.

blink
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14:41 Russia sent tenths of Mig-29 and Su-27 fighter planes and Tu-22 bombers in the military bases from Crimea.
translated from [link to www.hotnews.ro]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49906773


I tried to link to the video of that and created a thread and none showed up! Censorship is in place for sure. Unseen.....
 Quoting: SenterSun




Believe me now? They wouldn't let me post that vid last night. Now it's all over the news.....
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Its not like you have discovered some secret Hoss. They are there for a known parade.
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Ukrainian military shot checkpoint in Kostyantynivka

[link to russian.rt.com]
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U.S. Senator McCain promises Ukraine military aid by $ 100 million

[link to russian.rt.com]

:mccain3:
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McCain with this money is only buying mercenaries to fight Putin.
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you are not in the USA. Your English is sucking into your mouth.
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I do that on purpose, hehe.
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you are not in the USA. Your English is sucking into your mouth.
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I do that on purpose, hehe.
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lolsign
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U.S. Senator McCain promises Ukraine military aid by $ 100 million

[link to russian.rt.com]

:mccain3:
 Quoting: tmorais


McCain with this money is only buying mercenaries to fight Putin.
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No. Get your record straight. He is fighting for democracy and freedom.
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Kill Vehicles are first line of defense against ballistic missile threats:

[link to www.raytheon.com]

[link to pic.twitter.com]


so far in tests, 34 kills out of 34 attempts
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57417454


yea putting weapons in space will be a very good idea.

blink
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They are not weapons in space. They are ballistic missile interceptors fired from ballistic missile Navy ships and land-based systems.

and there is no 'will'

This system has already been functional for a long while now and ready for WWIII should the Russian fascists initiate it. It is being constantly improved, but is in place all over the globe.
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Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 4m
#Russia moves military hardware to Sevastopol for May 9th Victory Day celebration. Could keep it there for "further use" #Ukraine #Crimea
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@dan_dewhurst 4m
@L0gg0l Says who? who says the equipment is for a parade? you don't fly in that hardware 4 a parade

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you are not in the USA. Your English is sucking into your mouth.
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I do that on purpose, hehe.
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lolsign
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dogcat
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France isn't part of Nato.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57700819


putin
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57686315

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
"French withdrawal

NATO's unity was breached early in its history with a crisis occurring during Charles de Gaulle's presidency of France. De Gaulle protested the United States' strong role in the organization and what he perceived as a special relationship between it and the United Kingdom. In a memorandum sent to President Dwight D. Eisenhower and Prime Minister Harold Macmillan on 17 September 1958, he argued for the creation of a tripartite directorate that would put France on an equal footing with the US and the UK.[29]

Considering the response he received to his memorandum unsatisfactory, de Gaulle began constructing an independent defence force for his country. He wanted to give France, in the event of an East German incursion into West Germany, the option of coming to a separate peace with the Eastern bloc instead of being drawn into a larger NATO-Warsaw Pact war.[30] In February 1959, France withdrew its Mediterranean Fleet from NATO command.[31] He later banned the stationing of foreign nuclear weapons on French soil. This caused the United States to transfer two hundred military aircraft out of France and return control of the air force bases that had operated in France since 1950 to the French by 1967.

Though France showed solidarity with the rest of NATO during the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962, de Gaulle continued his pursuit of an independent defence by removing France's Atlantic and Channel fleets from NATO command.[32] In 1966, all French armed forces were removed from NATO's integrated military command, and all non-French NATO troops were asked to leave France. U.S. Secretary of State Dean Rusk was later quoted as asking de Gaulle whether his order included "the bodies of American soldiers in France's cemeteries?"[33] This withdrawal forced the relocation of SHAPE from Rocquencourt, near Paris, to Casteau, north of Mons, Belgium, by 16 October 1967.[34] France remained a member of the alliance, and committed to the defence of Europe from possible Warsaw Pact attack with its own forces stationed in the Federal Republic of Germany throughout the Cold War. A series of secret accords between US and French officials, the Lemnitzer-Ailleret Agreements, detailed how French forces would dovetail back into NATO's command structure should East-W"
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For the time de Gaulle of France was self excluded from military NATO, while remaining within the NATO politically. Now France is back in the NATO military.

Just go to the NATO website and look. It's not hard.

They leave and join all the time. (Ironic)
 Quoting: Falter

Lol, OK I can see that I was wrong. So quess, if war breaks out they will leave again.
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U.S. Senator McCain promises Ukraine military aid by $ 100 million

[link to russian.rt.com]

:mccain3:
 Quoting: tmorais


McCain with this money is only buying mercenaries to fight Putin.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57705977


No. Get your record straight. He is fighting for democracy and freedom.
 Quoting: tmorais


I'm a bit like Sheldon from big bang...sarcasm right? Lol
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U.S. Senator McCain promises Ukraine military aid by $ 100 million

[link to russian.rt.com]

:mccain3:
 Quoting: tmorais


McCain with this money is only buying mercenaries to fight Putin.
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No. Get your record straight. He is fighting for democracy and freedom.
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Exactly how stupid are you?
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14:41 Russia sent tenths of Mig-29 and Su-27 fighter planes and Tu-22 bombers in the military bases from Crimea.
translated from [link to www.hotnews.ro]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49906773


I tried to link to the video of that and created a thread and none showed up! Censorship is in place for sure. Unseen.....
 Quoting: SenterSun




Believe me now? They wouldn't let me post that vid last night. Now it's all over the news.....
 Quoting: SenterSun


Its not like you have discovered some secret Hoss. They are there for a known parade.
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Oh, sure.......a parade. They stopped me from posting that three times and even a thread, dude.


Remove your head from your ass, homie.
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McCain with this money is only buying mercenaries to fight Putin.
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No. Get your record straight. He is fighting for democracy and freedom.
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I'm a bit like Sheldon from big bang...sarcasm right? Lol
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cheers
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Next 3 weeks gonna be huge in Europe:
- 05/09 RU Victory Day
- 05/11 Ukraine Donbass referendum
- 05/25 European Elections
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U.S. Senator McCain promises Ukraine military aid by $ 100 million

[link to russian.rt.com]

:mccain3:
 Quoting: tmorais


McCain with this money is only buying mercenaries to fight Putin.
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No. Get your record straight. He is fighting for democracy and freedom.
 Quoting: tmorais


You are wrong!

US fights for democracy.

Russia fights for freedom.

Both use bombs, bullets, mercenaries and death.
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I see France and Germany leaving NATO. Economic interests come first. France has a nuclear deterrent. So they need not fear a Russian invasion. Germany can quickly acquire this. Germany and France leaving both the EU and NATO would greatly benefit their countries. So it will happen if the US loses economic power and shtf.
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France isn't part of Nato.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57700819


What? France is a part of NATO.
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France is a part of NATO when they need money from the USA. Fed-reserve will be out of money soon.
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France was forced to (re)integrate NATO under Sarkozy's presidency and even to sell a big part of its gold reserve when the same better french friend of USA was our finace minister.

[link to www.gata.org]

That's not so simple. A very few people in my country really understand what it is all about.
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14:41 Russia sent tenths of Mig-29 and Su-27 fighter planes and Tu-22 bombers in the military bases from Crimea.
translated from [link to www.hotnews.ro]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49906773


I tried to link to the video of that and created a thread and none showed up! Censorship is in place for sure. Unseen.....
 Quoting: SenterSun




Believe me now? They wouldn't let me post that vid last night. Now it's all over the news.....
 Quoting: SenterSun


Its not like you have discovered some secret Hoss. They are there for a known parade.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57417454


Yes, parades are useful ...

Russia works with illusionists in its military services.
Actual magicians and illusionists who learned how to make the public look at something while they perform a trick no-one expects.

These people put layers of information upon layers of information until your head is spinned upside down and inside out.

What you think is pro-Ukraine is actually pro-Russian and not even those executing the plans know it.

The fire is a good example of how they use Ukraine groups like Pravy Sektor (who are 100% infiltrated since the 90's) to execute their plans.

Pravy Sektor is of course unaware that they executed a Russian plan, but yet they did.
Infiltration, control, manipulation.

Winning at chess is easier when you control all the pawns.
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Come back with me, to the golden 70's...

[insert youtube here of 1970s music and drama about gold money and so forth]
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Come back with me, to the golden 70's...

[insert youtube here of 1970s music and drama about gold money and so forth]
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Sorry, insert what, where?
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I tried to link to the video of that and created a thread and none showed up! Censorship is in place for sure. Unseen.....
 Quoting: SenterSun




Believe me now? They wouldn't let me post that vid last night. Now it's all over the news.....
 Quoting: SenterSun


Its not like you have discovered some secret Hoss. They are there for a known parade.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57417454


Yes, parades are useful ...

Russia works with illusionists in its military services.
Actual magicians and illusionists who learned how to make the public look at something while they perform a trick no-one expects.

These people put layers of information upon layers of information until your head is spinned upside down and inside out.

What you think is pro-Ukraine is actually pro-Russian and not even those executing the plans know it.

The fire is a good example of how they use Ukraine groups like Pravy Sektor (who are 100% infiltrated since the 90's) to execute their plans.

Pravy Sektor is of course unaware that they executed a Russian plan, but yet they did.
Infiltration, control, manipulation.

Winning at chess is easier when you control all the pawns.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57705977



Maskirovka.

Those fuckers.





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