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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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BREAKING NEWS: Armed pro-Russian force seize another military airport in Ukraine's Crimea. Via @Reuters
 Quoting: Newshunter


Pro-Russia or Third Force?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55385025


I, do believe that there are more than three (psychically) forces at play here. Actually close to a two digit figure or beyond.

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Crimean leaders blame Kiev for selling Ukraine off for IMF loans


[link to voiceofrussia.com]

Main points (unverified) by Crimean authorities of why Crimea should separate from Ukraine (related to IMF loans mostly it seems):

1) Chevron assigned ownership of Ukraine gas pipelines
2) several East Ukraine steel mills must grant 50% ownership to German company
3) Donbass coal industry given to Finnish group
4) Kharkiv to host NATO ABMs and war birds
5) increase in gas prices (50% for cities, 100% for individuals)
6) increase in numerous tariffs (gasoline, electricity)
7) eliminate state subsidies for childbirth [ SUN_DANCER: These are quite small, about $1200 upon birth of child, maybe enough to cover maternity costs ]
8) new VAT tax on medications
9) open up ownership of farmland to foreigners
 Quoting: Sun_dancer

Wtf?
That is literally stealing people's property right in front of them and ukrainians are ok with this?
Poor bastards
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54681128


This is exactly the kind of thing many here have been warning about...

No surprise at all that Joining the EU or accepting loans ends up in the country being chopped to bits and enslaved.
 Quoting: RelentlessDespot


I don't see anywheres here the pensioners getting 50% less. Nor the haircut they are going to impose. (and you know that is coming, yes you do)
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With the reports of military movements to Crimea in the mainland Ukraine, I'm convinced that the fascists in Kiev are determined to take Crimea back before the March 16 referendum to join Russia. Attacking after that would be a very stupid move since that would be considered an attack on Russia itself as Crimea would have joined Russia by then.
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Crimean leaders blame Kiev for selling Ukraine off for IMF loans


[link to voiceofrussia.com]

Main points (unverified) by Crimean authorities of why Crimea should separate from Ukraine (related to IMF loans mostly it seems):

1) Chevron assigned ownership of Ukraine gas pipelines
2) several East Ukraine steel mills must grant 50% ownership to German company
3) Donbass coal industry given to Finnish group
4) Kharkiv to host NATO ABMs and war birds
5) increase in gas prices (50% for cities, 100% for individuals)
6) increase in numerous tariffs (gasoline, electricity)
7) eliminate state subsidies for childbirth [ SUN_DANCER: These are quite small, about $1200 upon birth of child, maybe enough to cover maternity costs ]
8) new VAT tax on medications
9) open up ownership of farmland to foreigners
 Quoting: Sun_dancer

Wtf?
That is literally stealing people's property right in front of them and ukrainians are ok with this?
Poor bastards
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54681128


This is exactly the kind of thing many here have been warning about...

No surprise at all that Joining the EU or accepting loans ends up in the country being chopped to bits and enslaved.
 Quoting: RelentlessDespot


I don't see anywheres here the pensioners getting 50% less. Nor the haircut they are going to impose. (and you know that is coming, yes you do)
 Quoting: steelseries


Shit yes we do... That and worse if this keep moving forward.

The gold is already gone, next will be their souls.
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.

Or something
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BREAKING NEWS: Armed pro-Russian force seize another military airport in Ukraine's Crimea. Via @Reuters
 Quoting: Newshunter


Pro-Russia or Third Force?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55385025


I, do believe that there are more than three (psychically) forces at play here. Actually close to a two digit figure or beyond.

Take care
 Quoting: Kent 54313590


I agree because I have been thinking too that just saying Third Force might actually be the 4th, 5th, 10th or whatever criminal gang (corporation/nation/group of politicians or other) is trying to achieve.
To think there's only West vs. Russia or US, EU, NATO vs. Russia is wrong at this point. Things are more complicated and intertwined than we can even understand at this point.

PS: Saw "Ashdown" in Iran today
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Russian reinforcements


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12944722


it says federation vehicles on road Krasnodar to Novorosisk, but where?Anyway full distance is 140 km, so they will reach Krimea by nightfall.
 Quoting: mariushdsc 55381506


Pause it at 1:23 - what flag is that ? Ain't Russian.
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Unit flag. Possibly a military intelligence unit.
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@EuromaidanPR: The commander of the 55th missile squadron in #Evpatoriya was handed a written ultimatum to disarm.Deadline 24h. -@KRYMSOS IPR Post #Crimea
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Another BS ultimatum... Twitter should not be used as source at all
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PzFeed Top News &#8207;@PzFeed2m
BREAKING NEWS: Armed pro-Russian force seize another military airport in Ukraine's Crimea. Via @Reuters
 Quoting: Newshunter


Pro-Russia or Third Force?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55385025


I, do believe that there are more than three (psychically) forces at play here. Actually close to a two digit figure or beyond.

Take care
 Quoting: Kent 54313590


I agree because I have been thinking too that just saying Third Force might actually be the 4th, 5th, 10th or whatever criminal gang (corporation/nation/group of politicians or other) is trying to achieve.
To think there's only West vs. Russia or US, EU, NATO vs. Russia is wrong at this point. Things are more complicated and intertwined than we can even understand at this point.

PS: Saw "Ashdown" in Iran today
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55385025



Amazing isn't it. One moment, scourge of the world, the next........
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 Quoting: KartAnimal29


popcorn

Most likely bullshit though, this whole thing just doesn't want to turn hot.
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haha

this is ridic. russia isnt going to fucking invade fucking norway, or any other fucking country
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55378407


fact is that: behind closed doors the NWO has a pretty
good idea of what Russia, China and Germany are up to. and they're scared shitless.
 Quoting: Littlefeather


I kind of like some of your to the point remarks. Yes and I agree they are, look at their faces and body languages, they are certainly experiencing fear, day and night.
Part of this is simply because most of these people are lulled into some sort of belief in a status quo denial mode, and are simply not strong enough to bear the fact that their responsibilities in realizing that whatever they feel, believe, think and say does not mean anything, as their ship is tumbling in a sea of unpredictable waves.
This is valid for NATO and the EU organisations having no working command line or rational decisive nature.
It's a bit like the picture one gets when visualizing an anthill 10 seconds after an elephant stamped on it.

Short note about the "Cold response" in Norway. They do similar exercises on a regular basis every 3 or 4 years.
By the way I still believe that the Doctrine of Norway considered to be collateral damage in a scenario where Norway would be invaded, meaning "we nuke them then"
we being the US.
The US has very large amounts of of military equipment stored in bunkers in Finmark, and for those of you who are interested in HAARP, we do have a large one here.
Google that, or I would have to write a lot more.

In addition to the "scared shitless" comments above I would like to add that there appears to be something very sinister going on behind some curtains that is very difficult to wrap ones mind around for most people.

For the newbies and late arrivals to this thread. Please do us all a favour and read the very least 200 pages back, before posting and being wise.
Easy to navigate past all the crap once you get the hang of it.

Trying to catch up myself from yesterday, resisting the urge to comment on posts that quite possibly have been adequately responded to 10 or more pages ahead.

Take care
 Quoting: Kent 54313590


What do you mean by - very sinister ?
 Quoting: Skylla 55044037


I am now on page 1216, and still working my way up. I do read posts and select links posted and read them, and some I comment on. I believe that on the following pages I did post something about the conceptual capacity of a mouse.
I would not go any further than that at this moment.
Thank you.

Take care
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@EuromaidanPR: The commander of the 55th missile squadron in #Evpatoriya was handed a written ultimatum to disarm.Deadline 24h. -@KRYMSOS IPR Post #Crimea
 Quoting: < DL >


Another BS ultimatum... Twitter should not be used as source at all
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55365044


hesright
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fact is that: behind closed doors the NWO has a pretty
good idea of what Russia, China and Germany are up to. and they're scared shitless.
 Quoting: Littlefeather


I kind of like some of your to the point remarks. Yes and I agree they are, look at their faces and body languages, they are certainly experiencing fear, day and night.
Part of this is simply because most of these people are lulled into some sort of belief in a status quo denial mode, and are simply not strong enough to bear the fact that their responsibilities in realizing that whatever they feel, believe, think and say does not mean anything, as their ship is tumbling in a sea of unpredictable waves.
This is valid for NATO and the EU organisations having no working command line or rational decisive nature.
It's a bit like the picture one gets when visualizing an anthill 10 seconds after an elephant stamped on it.

Short note about the "Cold response" in Norway. They do similar exercises on a regular basis every 3 or 4 years.
By the way I still believe that the Doctrine of Norway considered to be collateral damage in a scenario where Norway would be invaded, meaning "we nuke them then"
we being the US.
The US has very large amounts of of military equipment stored in bunkers in Finmark, and for those of you who are interested in HAARP, we do have a large one here.
Google that, or I would have to write a lot more.

In addition to the "scared shitless" comments above I would like to add that there appears to be something very sinister going on behind some curtains that is very difficult to wrap ones mind around for most people.

For the newbies and late arrivals to this thread. Please do us all a favour and read the very least 200 pages back, before posting and being wise.
Easy to navigate past all the crap once you get the hang of it.

Trying to catch up myself from yesterday, resisting the urge to comment on posts that quite possibly have been adequately responded to 10 or more pages ahead.

Take care
 Quoting: Kent 54313590


What do you mean by - very sinister ?
 Quoting: Skylla 55044037


I am now on page 1216, and still working my way up. I do read posts and select links posted and read them, and some I comment on. I believe that on the following pages I did post something about the conceptual capacity of a mouse.
I would not go any further than that at this moment.
Thank you.

Take care
 Quoting: Kent 54313590


Ok. Thank you.
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Do you think Obama be mad?ogrrrohappy
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SO ANY THING NEW
 Quoting: luispes12


Hi there.

May I suggest you do a little reading up, like from where you left last time around. Then you would not have to ask the question, and at the same time be recognized as being a serious contributor.
In reality you are asking all of us to give you a resume' of what's happened since you were here last!!

Like your avatar btw.

Take
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The Ukraine is weak!
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51630596


I guess no one can see the elephant in the room here. Have Russia/Ukraine nuke Russia. Rob the enemy of a US/EU target and let them destroy themselves. We all know Ukraine is/was Russia. This happened in Americas, Africa, India, Syria(current), Libya(2011), China etc. Turn them against each other and then support one side. Ukraine is like "WE WILL NUKE OUR ANCESTRAL HOMELAND YES! SCREW WHERE WE ARE FROM ITS WHERE WE ARE GOING!" Disarm the NUKETARDS before its too late.

abomb:hitler:abomb
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55368279


makes no sense, any nuclear war even between neighboring countries can cause pretty fast a nuclear winter on earth which will wipe out most of humanity no matter where you live.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42841999


frim where did you get "nuclear war"?






Calls in Kiev to ‘regain nuclear status in six months’

The ultra-right “Svoboda” (Liberty) party has remained unconvinced, with one of its representatives in the Ukrainian parliament warning that if Russia doesn’t tread carefully it will be dealing with a nuclear power.

"We’ll regain our status as a nuclear power and that’ll change the conversation. Ukraine has all the technological means needed to create a nuclear arsenal – which would take us about three to six months,” Svoboda party MP Mikhail Golovko said.

[link to rt.com]


cupofjoestfuwise yodagranny


THIS^^
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The Ukraine is weak!
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It's feeble, I think it's time to put the hurt on the Ukraine
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The Ukraine is weak!
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It's feeble, I think it's time to put the hurt on the Ukraine
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I don't know what the reds are waiting for.
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two worlds


"fascists" and "anti fascists "

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The Ukraine is weak!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53397993


It's feeble, I think it's time to put the hurt on the Ukraine
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12169011

I don't know what the reds are waiting for.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53397993


I don't think Russia feels the need to be in a hurry about anything. why make further advances that would only inflame international rhetoric more when Russia can simply maintain the status quo and get what it wants.
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The Ukraine is weak!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53397993


It's feeble, I think it's time to put the hurt on the Ukraine
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12169011

I don't know what the reds are waiting for.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53397993


I don't think Russia feels the need to be in a hurry about anything. why make further advances that would only inflame international rhetoric more when Russia can simply maintain the status quo and get what it wants.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55259567
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an entire thread full of fear porn and dumb twitter updates, well done OP.
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No,it's a thread on an ongoing crises that nobody is forcing you to read. We have dedicated people here working their butts off to keep this updated,the only nonsense in this thread is trolling thread derailers.
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an entire thread full of fear porn and dumb twitter updates, well done OP.
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No,it's a thread on an ongoing crises that nobody is forcing you to read. We have dedicated people here working their butts off to keep this updated,the only nonsense in this thread is trolling thread derailers.
 Quoting: tripleh31


^THIS
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someone just posted a map he made with the military bases at Crimea

[link to mapsengine.google.com (secure)]
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an entire thread full of fear porn and dumb twitter updates, well done OP.
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Thanks for that valuable contribution increasing the signal to noise ratio.

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The Ukraine is weak!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53397993


It's feeble, I think it's time to put the hurt on the Ukraine
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12169011

I don't know what the reds are waiting for.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53397993


I don't think Russia feels the need to be in a hurry about anything. why make further advances that would only inflame international rhetoric more when Russia can simply maintain the status quo and get what it wants.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55259567


Russia didn't get what it wants. Putin wanted all of Ukraine in his pocket, and in the end he settled for a single province. Russia is very much the loser here.
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Do you think Obama be mad?ogrrrohappy
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:barackobaned:
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someone just posted a map he made with the military bases at Crimea

[link to mapsengine.google.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Ostria1




Great - I had no idea that they had so many bases.
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The Ukraine is weak!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53397993


It's feeble, I think it's time to put the hurt on the Ukraine
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12169011

I don't know what the reds are waiting for.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53397993


I don't think Russia feels the need to be in a hurry about anything. why make further advances that would only inflame international rhetoric more when Russia can simply maintain the status quo and get what it wants.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55259567


inflame international rhetoric? That's all it would be, rhetoric. Russia can invade eastern europe with impunity.
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someone just posted a map he made with the military bases at Crimea

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Great - I had no idea that they had so many bases.
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yes me neither
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