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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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Russia has signaled it can dominate Black Sea with new force posture/assets in Crimea says @PMBreedlove #ACCommanders
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box

So perhaps the invasion was primarily about dominating the Black Sea vs Nato through improved positioning rather than a threat by 'Nazis' to Russian minorities.
 Quoting: Tpotleoz

Hardly.

The Soviet Union and Russia have dominated the Black Sea since time immemorial. Western warships (literally) have no business there. Their purpose is to provoke, escalate and stir up tension. To increase the risk of accidents.

It would be exactly the same if Russia were to start sailing missile destroyers into the Gulf of Mexico. It would be a similar action whose purpose would be to stir up hatred, increase the chances of big wars and generally destabilize the world. But Russia does not do that, Russia does not seek to cause wars.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish

'No business there' you say? A tiny document, of which Russia is a signatory to this day, called the Montrdeaux Convention, gives Western ships a right to be in the Black Sea. Moreover, the convention clearly states, a country belonging to a Western alliance, NATO, Turkey controls the Bosphorous Straits. Futher, the convention allows Turkey, in times of war, to exercise even more discretion with respect to the type and class of ships permitted into the Sea and their length of stay. Westerners have the biggest of stakes in the Black Sea.

By failing to mention the Montraeux Convention, it gives the appearance you're deliberately trying to peddle in disinformation. Unless of course, you didn't know about the convention.
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Let me qualify 'No business there' with "except at times of war". And we are not at war. It would be an equivalent retaliation for Russia to station warships in the Gulf of Mexico. The essential difference is that Russia is not trying to actively stir up wars all around the world.

This convention, by the way, USA has recently flouted by overstaying.
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Debaltsevo - Cossacks shelling positions of Kiev gunmen:


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"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
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ConflictReporter ‏@MiddleEast_BRK · 32s
#Insanity The Ukrainian parliament will approve a "special status" for #Donbas today, while the regimes there reject any concession.
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box

It's not intended to be taken seriously.
It's just their warped sense of humour.
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Russian Market ‏@russian_market · 2m
#BOOM USA is ready to lift the latest sanctions against Russia.
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‏@KFM936 США готовы отменить последни&#107​7; санкции в отношени&#108​0; России. [link to fb.me]
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Cynical position as usual.
Everyone knows that giving into sanctions is like paying a blackmailer. It will only result in more demands and the same threats.
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ConflictReporter ‏@MiddleEast_BRK · 16s
#BreakingNews The Russian army is concentrating troops and equipment to retake the cities of #Lisichansk and #Debalcevo.
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last time towns were taken by separatists. now it will be retaken by russian army???

comic reporter is delussional piece of agitprop!
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ConflictReporter @MiddleEast_BRK · 4 s
#BREAKINGNEWS The Ukrainian parliament has #rejected @poroshenko "Peace Plan", giving #Donbas a "special status" for 3 years.

Nicely done. So it means Banderistan parliament officialy torn apart Minsk Protocol. Banderistanis destroyed it officially.
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!

Kateryna_Kruk ‏@Kateryna_Kruk 26m
Rada will hold closed session to discuss situation in Donbas region& vote for bill on its special status. so far no word ab. #AA&lustration

Closed session means something leakworthy is about to be said.

EDIT BREAKING
Ukraine parliament passes law on special status for rebel-held territories, lawmakers say
[link to online.wsj.com]

SECOND EDIT CONFIRMED [link to rt.com]

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ConflictReporter @MiddleEast_BRK · 5 s
WHAT?Didn't some PMs just announce the opposite?!
"#BREAKING Ukraine parliament adopts law on self-rule for separatist east: report" - @AFP

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K-os in Banderstadt...

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“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
________________________________________________________​__________________
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Its Seems that the Special Status has been approved
[link to rt.com]
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ConflictReporter @MiddleEast_BRK · 4 s
#BREAKINGNEWS The Ukrainian parliament has #rejected @poroshenko "Peace Plan", giving #Donbas a "special status" for 3 years.


Nicely done. So it means Banderistan parliament officialy torn apart Minsk Protocol. Banderistanis destroyed it officially.

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 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!

That's good news. The Minsk Protocol is nothing but a trap for New Russia. Anything less than full independence is a trap. There would be nothing to stop Ukraine from revoking any new powers at any moment in the future. Now that Ukraine is the party that has officially abandoned the peace process, the NAF should be seen as the victims that they are by the whole world, SHOULD BE.
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ConflictReporter @MiddleEast_BRK · 4 s
#BREAKINGNEWS The Ukrainian parliament has #rejected @poroshenko "Peace Plan", giving #Donbas a "special status" for 3 years.

Nicely done. So it means Banderistan parliament officialy torn apart Minsk Protocol. Banderistanis destroyed it officially.
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!
That's good news. The Minsk Protocol is nothing but a trap for New Russia. Anything less than full independence is a trap. There would be nothing to stop Ukraine from revoking any new powers at any moment in the future. Now that Ukraine is the party that has officially abandoned the peace process, the NAF should be seen as the victims that they are by the whole world, SHOULD BE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57589670

The Minsk protocol and "Special Status" have been approved by Poroshenko and Kiev parliament. However they contain poison pill clauses to ensure they are rejected by Donbas.
This civil war is still in its early stages.

In Churchill's words,"This is not the end, this is not even the beginning of the end. But is may, possibly, be the end of the beginning."

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WHAT?Didn't some PMs just announce the opposite?!
"#BREAKING Ukraine parliament adopts law on self-rule for separatist east: report" - @AFP

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K-os in Banderstadt...
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


ConflictReporter announced the opposite, not some PMs. Just stop posting random tweets from bad sources.
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A squad mercenaries from battalion Azov gets a hard reception


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#Ukraine parliament passes bills on #Donbass 3-year special status (277 MPs vote in favor) and on amnesty for separatists (287 in favor)


#EU - #Ukraine association agreement being discussed by both Parliaments at the same time


Pro-russians, you mad? No state, no new russia. Diplomacy wins.
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#Ukraine President #Poroshenko addressing the @Europarl_EN ahead of the vote on the Association Agreement
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#Ukraine parliament passes bills on #Donbass 3-year special status (277 MPs vote in favor) and on amnesty for separatists (287 in favor)

#EU - #Ukraine association agreement being discussed by both Parliaments at the same time

Pro-russians, you mad? No state, no new russia. Diplomacy wins.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62900237

Those are purely Ukraine internal affairs.
Nothing to do with Novorossiya, not their concern.
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Referring to the successful adoption of the EU-Ukraine agreement, Mr Poroshenko says: "The forces that tried to stop us have already known defeat".
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11:17:

The president ends his speech with a cry: "Glory to Europe, glory to Ukraine".
11:15:

"Neither the war nor the political situation can be excuses not to pursue reform", he says, in an impassioned speech.
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The hand of history on the shoulders of MEPs? Mr Schulz claims, "in the history of parliamentarianism we have never had two parliaments voting simultaneously to ratify the same agreement".
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The Ukrainian Parliament has passed the agreement.
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11:20:

The vote is followed by raptuorous applause and a standing ovation.
11:19:

The first part of the vote on the European Parliament's side is backed by 535 votes to 127.
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Ukraine votes 355 for, 26 abstained for EU deal. Whole hall breaks out into earth-shaking rendition of nat'l anthem
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"GLORY TO UKRAINE! GLORY TO EUROPE!" - @poroshenko at @Europarl_EN
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Bye Putin putin

#Ukraine ratification of EU deal. PM: "correcting mistake made 350 yrs ago. Ukraine is Europe."
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11:17:

The president ends his speech with a cry: "Glory to Europe, glory to Ukraine".

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Freakin moran what da heck
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Bye Putin putin

#Ukraine ratification of EU deal. PM: "correcting mistake made 350 yrs ago. Ukraine is Europe."
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it seems that they might need to wait till 2016

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11:17:
The president ends his speech with a cry: "Glory to Europe, glory to Ukraine".
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Freakin moran what da heck
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It's just showmanship.
He doesn't really expect that anyone will take him seriously.
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#Ukraine parliament passes bills on #Donbass 3-year special status (277 MPs vote in favor) and on amnesty for separatists (287 in favor)


#EU - #Ukraine association agreement being discussed by both Parliaments at the same time


Pro-russians, you mad? No state, no new russia. Diplomacy wins.
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You should understand that some Banderstadt PMs voting is irrelevant for Donbass. Until Donbass accepts it. It is only Banderstadt delusion about that they can apply laws over Donbass. Of course Banderistas can (and probably the will) play this game but this is all what the can do. And it is only matter of Donbass if it will play it with Kiev lunatics. And I strongly doubt there is any possibility for that Donbass will accept some "3 years of special status but still as part of Banderistan" or "disarm during one month". I am really curious for reaction of Novorossiyan representatives and it is only one thing what is important.
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
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#Ukraine parliament passes bills on #Donbass 3-year special status (277 MPs vote in favor) and on amnesty for separatists (287 in favor)


#EU - #Ukraine association agreement being discussed by both Parliaments at the same time


Pro-russians, you mad? No state, no new russia. Diplomacy wins.
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Putin wanted federalization since the beginning. What Ukraine is doing now is close to exactly what Putin asked for from the beginning. Putin diplomacy wins.
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The Ukrainian Parliament has passed the agreement.
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Ukraine will be subjected to sanctions if this is true, increased taxes on imports, cost of gas, or cutting off of gas. I guess they like suicide.
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Conflict News ‏@rConflictNews · 17 min.
Yulia Tymoshenko denounces 'self-rule status' for the East as 'the legalization of Russian occupation.'


This criminal witch still lives?

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“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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