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If you wonder why politics in Ukr seem a bit off. Check out the behavior of one of the Mps


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Pathetic.
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If you wonder why politics in Ukr seem a bit off. Check out the behavior of one of the Mps


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Ahhh bugs, bugs under the skin ahh I am so bored... is it hot in here? wow that guy is tweaked [link to www.facesofmeth.us]
And here we are staring at each other through an electronic............ error goto ram

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If you wonder why politics in Ukr seem a bit off. Check out the behavior of one of the Mps


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ROFL, dude's on coke. Believe me, I know.

Could also very well be meth or LSD

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If you wonder why politics in Ukr seem a bit off. Check out the behavior of one of the Mps


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ROFL, dude's on coke. Believe me, I know.

Could also very well be meth or LSD
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Got to admit looks more like the effects of being high on coke rather than any sort of disability
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...
Also, some new (at least to me) pic:
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WOW!!! That's definitively the same guy.

rofl

waitwhat
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The Kremlin stick sucking as you call it is now considered a valid point?

Can you describe to us which crimes you mean in particular?
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You should just bury your head in the sand for being a Kremlin loving German, the Germans truly were demolished in WW2, their pride more than their army.
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Is this an invitation?

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If you wonder why politics in Ukr seem a bit off. Check out the behavior of one of the Mps


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He's facing that woman that's bussy reading the newspaper instead of gving him a "helping hand". So many bitches are entering the parliament these days...
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Ifx: Duma appeals to world parliaments to hold consultations on Ukraine crisis (Part 2)

Quote:

"It is obvious that such a dialogue is possible only after the military actions are immediately halted, the neo-Nazi gangs are fully disarmed and isolated, the pressure on political parties and Ukrainian Verkhovna Rada deputies is ended, and Western political forces stop encouraging the Kyiv junta. Any other way leads to the collapse of Ukraine's statehood," the Duma said."

Like that is gonna happen...
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Ifx: Duma appeals to world parliaments to hold consultations on Ukraine crisis (Part 2)
Quote:
"It is obvious that such a dialogue is possible only after the military actions are immediately halted, the neo-Nazi gangs are fully disarmed and isolated, the pressure on political parties and Ukrainian Verkhovna Rada deputies is ended, and Western political forces stop encouraging the Kyiv junta. Any other way leads to the collapse of Ukraine's statehood," the Duma said."

Like that is gonna happen...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5355488

Agreed.
There is going to be a war.
The only questions are
1. When, how soon?
2. Will it be Ukraine versus Russia or Ukraine versus Donetsk Republic (or Novorossiya)?
3. Will the war spread to involve other nations?
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If you wonder why politics in Ukr seem a bit off. Check out the behavior of one of the Mps


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Pathetic.
 Quoting: Anti-Banderist


That guy is Dmitry Dobkin, who is brother of notorius Mykhailo Dobkin ( [link to en.wikipedia.org] ) who you may have heard of ... both opposed to the current government, opposed to maidan, guilty of treason against Ukraine, in support of Yanukovych and the Berkut and the separatists, supporter of Putin's agendas, etc etc

Will likely be arrested along with his brother before long.

Looks like Yanuk's and Putin's trolls are being pushed not only with cash, but with drugs also.
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#Ukraine: #Kiev now discussing a law which, if approved, would ban Party of Region & Communist Party. They both hold 200 seats. via @pozzdan


Why is an unelected government doing stuff like this, when elections (supposedly) are only 2 weeks away?
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Just left rebel base in Slovyansk. Everyone was watching a Russian TV retread of an old anti-Nazi movie. Russian TV keeps this pump primed.
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The democracies won WWI, WWII and the Cold War. Surely they will win against Fascist Russia too but what a waste to go through all this again
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Russia bans police, emergency and military employees from traveling abroad

[link to barentsobserver.com] …


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Poland adjusting military tactics to Russia's GRU showcase in Eastern Ukraine, creating 10,000 man force for this purpose.

[link to www.tvn24.pl]
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[link to www.odnako.org]

At the beginning of May 14th situation in insurgent Novorossia and around is as the following:

Donetsk - Lugansk: Novorossia is to be established soon
In the republics there are preparation for the signing of the Federal Treaty. Oleg Tsarev, who is obviously no longer a Verkhovna Rada deputy, will be a head of the working group dealing with preparation for the signing of an treaty on the establishment of a federal state Novorossia.
Even if the state will remain in its current borders - its population will be about 6.6 million people (that, for example, more than all the Baltic states together). Area - more than 50 thousand square kilometers.
If Kharkiv, Zaporizhzhya, Dnipropetrovsk, Mykolaiv, Kherson and Odessa regions will join Novorossia - the population will reach 19 million people, and it could become the second by population member of the Eurasian Union, ahead of Kazakhstan. Moreover, in this case it turns out that there are actually more "separatists" than the supporters of "undivided Ukraine".
This, however, is the question of the future.
By the way, online there are a bunch of projects of flag fore Novorossia. Conversation hasn't really rise to a serious level - but our Editions liked this one the most:
[link to www.odnako.org]

Slavyansk - Kramatorsk: bout is over, loses of both sides are counted
There are no active hostilities at the moment. Sides summed up daily hassle when junta troops convoy was ambushed by militia 20km from Kramatorsk.
Loss by militias - one man, Sergei Grishin of Makeyevka.
Loss on the part of the junta forces (officially recognized) - 7 people.
However, at the evening representative of Nat.Guars suddenly moved with a fantastic "our soldiers' return fire killed 54 separatists" statement, but they would hardly believe this - even ones in Kiev.
Also the fact of usage by junta as a transport aircraft of some United Nations peacekeeping forces marked helicopters earned some discussion. Even if the junta forces simply do not have enough money to repaint helicopters - it is still a violation of the UN Charter. However, attention to such nuances has been long lost by ones in Kiev.


Kiev: Acting Commander in Chief defeated speaking Communist
Here the only interesting event was the loss of composture by Acting President, the Speaker, Commander in Chief and the pastor A.Turchinov during the speech of communists leader P.Simonenko.

Simonenko, obviously trying to at least partially return his electorate, that was lost during frightened compromising with junta initiatives after the coup - began performing on May 9 in Mariupol and undesignedly presented version of people of Mariupol - that the police were ordered to disperse demonstrations that they opposed and that punitive detachment arrived and began to storm city police department to punish unruly militiamen.
Pastor Turchinov suddenly interrupted the speaker from his seat, ten times repeated that he's "shamelessly lying", deprived him of speech, said Simonenko relays "false propaganda of Russian media" twice quickly outlined in microphone official version of Kiev (the attack on the police department - and Nat.Guard arrived to protect police), and finally announced that he would ask the junta's Ministry of Justice to ban the Communist Party. Simonenko was droven away from the microphone.


Europe: "let's allow the separatists to negotiate"
And finally, the news from Europe. German Chancellor Angela Merkel said that she "separatists could participate in a roundtable discussion of the OSCE" in principle (she talking about representatives of Lugansk and Donetsk People's Republics).
However, she immediately added that "everything will depend on their willingness to renounce violence", etc. - Without any explanation, how the People's Republics can renounce violence when their cities are raided by regular military units and special fascist projects of B.Kolomoyskiy. But the very realization of the fact that there's new very real side, with which they have to talk in Ukraine is certainly a step forward .

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And how about killing of indigenous population of North America or slave trade in the history of the US? How about Japan committing atrocities during WW2? Should each country burn its history books? There's no single country that has a history without some dark pages, therefore nobody's entitled to bully others because his moral record is so high.
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point was not to bully but to show how badly effected Russians have been by communism, and to acknowledge, themselves, for their own benefit.
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If you are talking about restoration of Soviet communism, that won't happen. I agree that there is some empty space in the self-identification of Russian people within the historic period of the mid-20th century. But any attempt to fill that empty space with doubtful ideas or remorse is a bad idea. Not everything was bad in a country that was able to defeat Nazi Germany and put the first man in space. Whatever one may thing of the late USSR, its fall resulted in many tragic developments, including regional wars, poverty, and humiliation that were no better than other events of the 20th century. That's why any critical voice coming from the countries that facilitated the fall of the USSR will not be heard in Russia. Maybe time will come when ex-USSR people will request apologies and reparations from those who rejoiced in the 1990s when they suffered. That's more recent history and it is more important that anything you are trying to draw attention to.
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Agreed, everybody needs self respect and Russians have some of the best military and high end tech on the planet. I don't blame Russians for what was imposed on them from London.
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Most of the powers (generals ect) of former soviet union were ukranian, and kiev was at one time the capital of russia, so historically kiev belongs to russia under todays us presentation of territorial integrity.
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I think that makes Russia belong to Ukraine....
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Actually Kievan Rus' is the predecessor of Russian culture, so you can indeed argue that Russia is Ukraine.
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Russia should have a speedy referendum to join Ukraine, 25th May they hold the election and Putin is then the prez of "Great"-Ukraine.

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Problem solved
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(18 +) HORROR, in Mariupol Nazis shot old man


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Nazis are always hell on old men, women and children. They willgettheirs.
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Disabled Marine Corps combat veteran.......
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Moldova is signing the EU association agreement on 27 June. Expect Putin's terrorism to increase there soon.
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With the 100th anniversary of the outbreak of World War I this year, who could have imagined “that war could become a genuine possibility in a country which shares a border with the European Union?” Schulz told the opening of the summit of the 28 EU leaders.
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Im not English whoever left the nice message :)
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The democracies won WWI, WWII and the Cold War. Surely they will win against Fascist Russia too but what a waste to go through all this again
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LMFAO ....yes now the US is the 4th Reich and the UK Is still run by the CORPORATION of London and the family of parasites. There is only one way to end this and that will never happen
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The roots of Ukrainian nationalism:

Ukrainian Insurgent Army: [link to en.wikipedia.org]



Very informative. Nazis? No. Neo-fascists? Probably.
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It's necessary to understand the history of West Ukraine and Ukraine in general to realize why things are like they are. Interestingly, Ukrainian nationalism started off as a left-of-center movement but due to increased Soviet totalitarianism and the Stalin induced starvation, moved towards the right and embraced the fascism that swept Europe at the time.

Ukrainian nationalists were persecuted by both Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia. It's a stretch to call them national socialists. In fact, the Ukrainian Insurgent Army fought on until 1956, well after Germany's surrender in 1945.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57622330




[link to michalw.narod.ru]


No, they were not persecuted by Nazi Germany, in fact they were a bunch of Nazi collaborators.
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[link to www.odnako.org]

At the beginning of May 14th situation in insurgent Novorossia and around is as the following:

Donetsk - Lugansk: Novorossia is to be established soon

Even if the state will remain in its current borders - its population will be about 6.6 million people (that, for example, more than all the Baltic states together). Area - more than 50 thousand square kilometers.

 Quoting: Tamonten


Also even Luxembourg could defeat Estonia for example militarily.
 Quoting: NotZuckerberg


There was some information about military warehouse somewhere in Donbass that contains 2m or so of WW2 weapons. Entrance was barred then an there's a fear of explosives, but...

BTW, totally offtopic, but I've seen the full title of the Emperor of Russia as it was before the revolution.

"By the Grace of God, We, NN, Emperor and Autocrat of All Russia, Moscow, Kiev, Vladimir, Novgorod; Tsar of Kazan, Tsar of Astrakhan, Tsar of Poland, Tsar of Siberia, Tsar of Chersonese Taurian, Tsar of Georgia; Lord of Pskov and Grand Prince of Smolensk, Lithuania, Volhynia, Podolia, Finland; Prince of Estland, Livland, Courland, Semigalia, Samogitia, Belostok, Karelia, Tver, Yugorsky land, Perm, Vyatka, Bolgar and others; Lord and Grand Prince of Nizhny Nogorod, Chernigov, Ryazan, Polotsk, Rostov, Yaroslavl, Belozersk, Udorsky land, Obdorsk, Kondia, Vitebsk, Mstislav, and all of the northern countries Master; and Lord of Iberia, Kartli, and Kabardia lands and Armenian provinces; Circassian and Mountainous Princes and their Hereditary Lord and Owner; Lord of Turkestan; Norwegian Heir; Duke of Schleswig-Holstein, Stormarn, Dithmarschen, and Oldenburg, and others, and others, and others."
They were lucky that Peter the Great created more short "the Father of the Fatherland, the Emperor of All Russia" one...

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"But we are still alive." - Thread: "The Great Game" by Mikhail Leontyev (2007-2008)

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"Russia is the great Christian country with rich Islamic history" - Vladimir Solovyov (Russian Jew)
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The roots of Ukrainian nationalism:

Ukrainian Insurgent Army: [link to en.wikipedia.org]



Very informative. Nazis? No. Neo-fascists? Probably.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57622330


It's necessary to understand the history of West Ukraine and Ukraine in general to realize why things are like they are. Interestingly, Ukrainian nationalism started off as a left-of-center movement but due to increased Soviet totalitarianism and the Stalin induced starvation, moved towards the right and embraced the fascism that swept Europe at the time.

Ukrainian nationalists were persecuted by both Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia. It's a stretch to call them national socialists. In fact, the Ukrainian Insurgent Army fought on until 1956, well after Germany's surrender in 1945.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57622330




[link to michalw.narod.ru]


No, they were not persecuted by Nazi Germany, in fact they were a bunch of Nazi collaborators.
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Get informed moron
Eat the Reds
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The roots of Ukrainian nationalism:

Ukrainian Insurgent Army: [link to en.wikipedia.org]



Very informative. Nazis? No. Neo-fascists? Probably.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57622330


It's necessary to understand the history of West Ukraine and Ukraine in general to realize why things are like they are. Interestingly, Ukrainian nationalism started off as a left-of-center movement but due to increased Soviet totalitarianism and the Stalin induced starvation, moved towards the right and embraced the fascism that swept Europe at the time.

Ukrainian nationalists were persecuted by both Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia. It's a stretch to call them national socialists. In fact, the Ukrainian Insurgent Army fought on until 1956, well after Germany's surrender in 1945.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57622330




[link to michalw.narod.ru]


No, they were not persecuted by Nazi Germany, in fact they were a bunch of Nazi collaborators.
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Get informed moron
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"When every one is dead the Great Game is finished. Not before." - Rudyard Kipling, "Kim" (1901)
"But we are still alive." - Thread: "The Great Game" by Mikhail Leontyev (2007-2008)

"Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination." - Brandon Sanderson, "The Way of Kings"
"Russia is the great Christian country with rich Islamic history" - Vladimir Solovyov (Russian Jew)
Quos Iupiter perdere vult, dementat.
"Europe can wait while the Russian tsar fishes." - Alexander III The Peacemaker

Thread: I'm Russian – ask me a question. Be it about Russia or a personal one.
Thread: From Rus' to Russia - grand concert on the Red Square, June 12th 2015 - please help with translation!

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[link to www.odnako.org]

At the beginning of May 14th situation in insurgent Novorossia and around is as the following:

Donetsk - Lugansk: Novorossia is to be established soon

Even if the state will remain in its current borders - its population will be about 6.6 million people (that, for example, more than all the Baltic states together). Area - more than 50 thousand square kilometers.

 Quoting: Tamonten


Also even Luxembourg could defeat Estonia for example militarily.
 Quoting: NotZuckerberg


There was some information about military warehouse somewhere in Donbass that contains 2m or so of WW2 weapons. Entrance was barred then an there's a fear of explosives, but...

BTW, totally offtopic, but I've seen the full title of the Emperor of Russia as it was before the revolution.

"By the Grace of God, We, NN, Emperor and Autocrat of All Russia, Moscow, Kiev, Vladimir, Novgorod; Tsar of Kazan, Tsar of Astrakhan, Tsar of Poland, Tsar of Siberia, Tsar of Chersonese Taurian, Tsar of Georgia; Lord of Pskov and Grand Prince of Smolensk, Lithuania, Volhynia, Podolia, Finland; Prince of Estland, Livland, Courland, Semigalia, Samogitia, Belostok, Karelia, Tver, Yugorsky land, Perm, Vyatka, Bolgar and others; Lord and Grand Prince of Nizhny Nogorod, Chernigov, Ryazan, Polotsk, Rostov, Yaroslavl, Belozersk, Udorsky land, Obdorsk, Kondia, Vitebsk, Mstislav, and all of the northern countries Master; and Lord of Iberia, Kartli, and Kabardia lands and Armenian provinces; Circassian and Mountainous Princes and their Hereditary Lord and Owner; Lord of Turkestan; Norwegian Heir; Duke of Schleswig-Holstein, Stormarn, Dithmarschen, and Oldenburg, and others, and others, and others."
They were lucky that Peter the Great created more short "the Father of the Fatherland, the Emperor of All Russia" one...
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Thanks for giving us Putin's game-plan for the next 10 years.
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It's necessary to understand the history of West Ukraine and Ukraine in general to realize why things are like they are. Interestingly, Ukrainian nationalism started off as a left-of-center movement but due to increased Soviet totalitarianism and the Stalin induced starvation, moved towards the right and embraced the fascism that swept Europe at the time.

Ukrainian nationalists were persecuted by both Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia. It's a stretch to call them national socialists. In fact, the Ukrainian Insurgent Army fought on until 1956, well after Germany's surrender in 1945.




[link to michalw.narod.ru]


No, they were not persecuted by Nazi Germany, in fact they were a bunch of Nazi collaborators.


Get informed moron


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Even Stalin collaborated with Hitler for some time.
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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
BTW, totally offtopic, but I've seen the full title of the Emperor of Russia as it was before the revolution.

"By the Grace of God, We, NN, Emperor and Autocrat of All Russia, Moscow, Kiev, Vladimir, Novgorod; Tsar of Kazan, Tsar of Astrakhan, Tsar of Poland, Tsar of Siberia, Tsar of Chersonese Taurian, Tsar of Georgia; Lord of Pskov and Grand Prince of Smolensk, Lithuania, Volhynia, Podolia, Finland; Prince of Estland, Livland, Courland, Semigalia, Samogitia, Belostok, Karelia, Tver, Yugorsky land, Perm, Vyatka, Bolgar and others; Lord and Grand Prince of Nizhny Nogorod, Chernigov, Ryazan, Polotsk, Rostov, Yaroslavl, Belozersk, Udorsky land, Obdorsk, Kondia, Vitebsk, Mstislav, and all of the northern countries Master; and Lord of Iberia, Kartli, and Kabardia lands and Armenian provinces; Circassian and Mountainous Princes and their Hereditary Lord and Owner; Lord of Turkestan; Norwegian Heir; Duke of Schleswig-Holstein, Stormarn, Dithmarschen, and Oldenburg, and others, and others, and others."
They were lucky that Peter the Great created more short "the Father of the Fatherland, the Emperor of All Russia" one...
 Quoting: Tamonten


Thanks for giving us Putin's game-plan for the next 10 years.
 Quoting: Tpotleoz


Why, I'll even provide you with a map while I'm at it:
[link to www.nicholasandalexandra.com]

But what I meant is that all this lands are mentioned separately. Including Kiev, Chersonese Taurian, Volhynia that are in modern Ukraine. Or should I say "The Ruin" instead?
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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