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I watch most of the speech. As much as I hate to admit it, Putin does have a point.
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I Have to agree!!!
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Well, I'm a leaving, but wanted to end on this note. COMMUNISM HAS NEVER WORKED. It has killed more people than all other political ideologies combined. Millions starved to death, millions murdered. Do you even know what you are talking about???
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It looks to me it is America that is turning communist, and Russia is less and less all the time. You need to look at your own Government, and see what's happening in your own backyard. Mine as well.
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like i said, my problem is MY govt. MY govt are the ones who are a danger to me. not putin
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not a danger to you...for now. lol

and again: if anyone in your government was as bad as putin, you'd really fucking go nuts. if you wouldn't support it for you, don't support it for others out of sheer selfishness and laziness.
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so when do you start making post after post criticising obama or the EU? or US foreign policy?

you have no idea. my govt is a traitorous bunch of cunts. its a disease that has spread across the EU - govts that refuse to acknowledge the people

at the risk of repeating myself, putin, for many people in europe and the west, stands as a symbol of somebody willing to stand up to our govts. that is all

all you are doing is stating the bleeding obvious for the sake of being a devils advocate. come along now, make some practical suggestions

when a war is being waged, sometimes you have to take sides, even if it means temporarily siding with your enemy

putin isnt going to cross the english channel. besides, weve already been invaded, by fucking brussels
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So you want to fix your government and bring down the EU with the help of Russia? By having Russia grow and expand? How would that fix anything? Western problems will remain and worsen. They have to be fixed from within. Can't be fixed by Pootin.
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omg. very few people here seem to be able to discuss things with any finesse or nuance

how the fuck is russia expanding? how is russia expanding by force? how is russia expanding without a democratic say?

no, thats the EU

why are people pissing on about what russia is doing on it own own doorstep - instigated by, we should add, a US and the EU-backed coup d'etat in kiev?

right now, be way more worried about the EU
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When is the Paul McCartney fronted reunification concert with everyone singing "Back in the USSR"?
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We have three objectives: Reassure NATO. Deter further Russian incursion into Ukraine. Reverse the annexation of Crimea.
Reassure NATO
We’re already sending U.S. aircraft to patrol the airspace of the Baltic states. That’s not enough.
1. Send the chairman of the Joint Chiefs to the Baltics to arrange joint maneuvers.
2. Same for the four NATO countries bordering Ukraine — Poland, Slovakia, Hungary and Romania.
3. Urgently revive the original missile defense agreements concluded with Poland and the Czech Republic before Obama canceled them unilaterally to appease Russia.
Deter further Russian incursions
1. Extend the Black Sea maneuvers in which the USS Truxtun is currently engaged with Romania and Bulgaria. These were previously scheduled. Order immediate — and continual -- follow-ons.
2. Declare that any further Russian military incursion beyond Crimea will lead to a rapid and favorable response from NATO to any request from Kiev for weapons.

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I get your point, but if the missile defense shield is back on the table, then this situation will escalate. The rest is just posturing / rhetoric.

I don't know if Obama has it in him to bring back the defense shield, but if so, we may have a very serious problem.

Putin will most likely put nukes back into Cuba. if he does, then we really don't have a leg to stand on. IMO.

Then things get really wonky. One wrong move.....BOOM

Obama is an amateur. He has no clue how to play chess at this level. I think he may just wind up putting us into a very serious conflict if not nuclear war
 Quoting: Indiana Jones


You are right!! Obama will back off and let Putin dictate the borders!! He doesn't as oyu say, have it in him

hf

Even if I sound negative to the US, I have to say that I really love the american people, not there leaders(federal Reserve)
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No worries. I know what you mean. I agree. We don't like them either.

The biggest problem is the economics and the crash that I do believe is coming.

I personally think it will happen before the end of April. At least for the US.

I think Putin sees this coming. He might even be the one that helps pull the trigger on it.

That is why it is so important to keep those oil and gas lines in his hands.

if you think about how he accomplished this, it is bloody brilliant.

Not a shot fired and the people want to join.
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Somebody needs to work some photoshop text on this one.

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LOL

So, what is the mood like in the Ukraine? What does the rest of the Ukraine think about this deal?
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EuroMaidan crowd is not too happy ...

I'll wander outside later to see the mood of the people here in the South
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House of Commons: William Hague

G7 to snub Russia, will meet without them.

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Hague warmongering again.
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Sky news????
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CNN.
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Cant find anything on CNN. What is he saying??
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Yup. Putin has set the marker now
How will it look to the world if nato or west now attack any country.
Everyone will question this.
Everyone will ask why not put disputes to the vote, just like russia.

I think we are looking at a new era of understanding and negotiations without killings. Putin has set the pace.
Its far from perfect but it is a start

Last thing America needs now is a news that 30 children have been killed by an american drone in afghanistan. I hope it doesn't happen for the sake of those kids.
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60% of people in Crimea were Russians. And Putin had large forces massed on Ukraine's borders to the east. So - shoot who? Russians with flags cheering?; Ukrainians didn't dare do anything. It's a hostile takeover even if no shots were fired.
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I don't agree. What about in Kiev? That was an illegal takeover, and who knows how many Ukrainians agreed with the takeover. There needed to be a vote, but that never happened, because the west wanted to get in there and take over before the people had a right to vote. And, as I hear it, it is 70% of Crimea were Russians, not 60%. Probably more so now, with people leaving Kiev and heading to Crimea.
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Romania president: 'chain of frozen conflicts around Black Sea that can be set off at any time'; Moldova in danger [link to nyti.ms]
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Poland, Romania, Baltics, Moldova, now Ukraine.... have read Pootin. He wants to rebuild the Soviet Union. People in the West appalud him. Oh well.... nevermind, they are in for rude awakenings soon enough. This is just the beginning.
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Perhaps, that is the masterplan? The civilized Europe realized the blunder and the danger from letting you 'join' the familily, and now they bribed Obama and some punks in Ukraine in hope of tricking Putin to take you back?

Good luck, but I am afraid the Russians made it amply clear today they want no business with you whatsoever. And who can blame them. You guys are the Europe's leper colony.

:(
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Very hardline speech from Putin - no sign whatsoever of de-escalation. Rubicon being crossed in east-west relations


Robert Coalson‏@CoalsonR·12 mins
Biden about to speak in Poland. He's got a really tough act to follow.
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This guest handled each question better than your average guest on RT or any given TV station. Its the one video all should watch.
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It seems to me that Crimea wants to be a part of Russia and is a majority Russian themselves, so what's the problem? This is just a minor adjustment from the early 90's chaos. I don't think Vlad is planning on recapturing the Soviet Union.
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im sure putin gives a damnn about the g8
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how the fuck is russia expanding? how is russia expanding by force? how is russia expanding without a democratic say?

no, thats the EU

why are people pissing on about what russia is doing on it own own doorstep - instigated by, we should add, a US and the EU-backed coup d'etat in kiev?

right now, be way more worried about the EU
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Russia just annexed Crimea and youre asking me how is Russia expanding? Yes 60% of people in Crimea are Russians and wanted to join Russia. That doesnt change the fact that this is the first annexation in Europe in 7 decades and it changes the game.
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Why does Putin not encourage a legal recognized referendum on whether the Ukraine should re-join Russia.

At the end of the day it's got to be the peoples choice. You can't just wage a war of conquest. Not in 2014.
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No, but you can give a stupid/lying reason and wage war. The US does it everyday.
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It seems to me that Crimea wants to be a part of Russia and is a majority Russian themselves, so what's the problem? This is just a minor adjustment from the early 90's chaos. I don't think Vlad is planning on recapturing the Soviet Union.
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Somebody needs to work some photoshop text on this one.

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LOL

So, what is the mood like in the Ukraine? What does the rest of the Ukraine think about this deal?
 Quoting: 2012Portal


EuroMaidan crowd is not too happy ...

I'll wander outside later to see the mood of the people here in the South
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I know my friends near the Polish border are not very happy, at all. This is down-right un-real that it is happening like this to them. A false flag in Kiev to create an avalanche that happened like that (snap-of-fingers).
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Yup. Putin has set the marker now
How will it look to the world if nato or west now attack any country.
Everyone will question this.
Everyone will ask why not put disputes to the vote, just like russia.

I think we are looking at a new era of understanding and negotiations without killings. Putin has set the pace.
Its far from perfect but it is a start

Last thing America needs now is a news that 30 children have been killed by an american drone in afghanistan. I hope it doesn't happen for the sake of those kids.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55778313


60% of people in Crimea were Russians. And Putin had large forces massed on Ukraine's borders to the east. So - shoot who? Russians with flags cheering?; Ukrainians didn't dare do anything. It's a hostile takeover even if no shots were fired.
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I don't agree. What about in Kiev? That was an illegal takeover, and who knows how many Ukrainians agreed with the takeover. There needed to be a vote, but that never happened, because the west wanted to get in there and take over before the people had a right to vote. And, as I hear it, it is 70% of Crimea were Russians, not 60%. Probably more so now, with people leaving Kiev and heading to Crimea.
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The worst of it's kind
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Hague warmongering again.
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Sky news????
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CNN.
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Cant find anything on CNN. What is he saying??
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He called the Crimea vote a land grab and said the Ukraine as a whole was threatened.
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RT @ajamlive: Hague: There is a grave danger that a provocation elsewhere in Ukraine could be used as a pretext for further military escalation-@Reeuters

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We have three objectives: Reassure NATO. Deter further Russian incursion into Ukraine. Reverse the annexation of Crimea.
Reassure NATO
We’re already sending U.S. aircraft to patrol the airspace of the Baltic states. That’s not enough.
1. Send the chairman of the Joint Chiefs to the Baltics to arrange joint maneuvers.
2. Same for the four NATO countries bordering Ukraine — Poland, Slovakia, Hungary and Romania.
3. Urgently revive the original missile defense agreements concluded with Poland and the Czech Republic before Obama canceled them unilaterally to appease Russia.
Deter further Russian incursions
1. Extend the Black Sea maneuvers in which the USS Truxtun is currently engaged with Romania and Bulgaria. These were previously scheduled. Order immediate — and continual -- follow-ons.
2. Declare that any further Russian military incursion beyond Crimea will lead to a rapid and favorable response from NATO to any request from Kiev for weapons.

[link to www.theadvertiser.com]
 Quoting: Limpan


I get your point, but if the missile defense shield is back on the table, then this situation will escalate. The rest is just posturing / rhetoric.

I don't know if Obama has it in him to bring back the defense shield, but if so, we may have a very serious problem.

Putin will most likely put nukes back into Cuba. if he does, then we really don't have a leg to stand on. IMO.

Then things get really wonky. One wrong move.....BOOM

Obama is an amateur. He has no clue how to play chess at this level. I think he may just wind up putting us into a very serious conflict if not nuclear war
 Quoting: Indiana Jones


You are right!! Obama will back off and let Putin dictate the borders!! He doesn't as oyu say, have it in him

hf

Even if I sound negative to the US, I have to say that I really love the american people, not there leaders(federal Reserve)
 Quoting: Limpan


No worries. I know what you mean. I agree. We don't like them either.

The biggest problem is the economics and the crash that I do believe is coming.

I personally think it will happen before the end of April. At least for the US.

I think Putin sees this coming. He might even be the one that helps pull the trigger on it.

That is why it is so important to keep those oil and gas lines in his hands.

if you think about how he accomplished this, it is bloody brilliant.

Not a shot fired and the people want to join.
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And who where the partnes in the speech??
China and India.....

bump
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As things go Forward.

- expect mass pro-Russian manifestations in South and East of Ukraine
- Expect Kiev nutcases trying to crack down on it
- Expect USA to still back up the Kiev regime
- Expect Putin to send 'Tourists' to Ukraine to aid the protests.
- Expect USA/NATO to secure West-Ukraine where they will be welcomed by people fearing the Russian whip.

Then we will have standoff for Kiev
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Hey, I've got an idea, how about Ukraine and Crimea fight off the freakin' Communist dictator and remember the millions of people who have died under Communism.

Bush tried to get the EU to stand beside Crimea and Ukraine and Georgia, but EU blinked and Putin took Georgia. Bush wanted to bring them all into NATO before Putin started his Bolshevik power grabs. How did that work out? And Obama has done NOTHING for 5 years but promote solar panels and golf.
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Check out Webster Tarpley's latest podcast... Tarpley lays out the West's financial rape of Ukraine via a leak by a Ukrainina MP...

1. Chevron gets the pipelines and energy sector.

2. Germans get the coal and steel sector.

3. USA gets airbases and missile bases.

4. All subsidies to families eliminated.

5. Pensions cut in half.

5. No more free public transportation.

6. Farmland sold off to Wall Street Banksters.

Those are the highlights.
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^^ this ^^

The Ukraine has been carved up and sold before the coup d'etat even took place!!
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It seems to me that Crimea wants to be a part of Russia and is a majority Russian themselves, so what's the problem? This is just a minor adjustment from the early 90's chaos. I don't think Vlad is planning on recapturing the Soviet Union.
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As things go Forward.

- expect mass pro-Russian manifestations in South and East of Ukraine
- Expect Kiev nutcases trying to crack down on it
- Expect USA to still back up the Kiev regime
- Expect Putin to send 'Tourists' to Ukraine to aid the protests.
- Expect USA/NATO to secure West-Ukraine where they will be welcomed by people fearing the Russian whip.

Then we will have standoff for Kiev
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55698289


Hey, I've got an idea, how about Ukraine and Crimea fight off the freakin' Communist dictator and remember the millions of people who have died under Communism.

Bush tried to get the EU to stand beside Crimea and Ukraine and Georgia, but EU blinked and Putin took Georgia. Bush wanted to bring them all into NATO before Putin started his Bolshevik power grabs. How did that work out? And Obama has done NOTHING for 5 years but promote solar panels and golf.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55115282


Check out Webster Tarpley's latest podcast... Tarpley lays out the West's financial rape of Ukraine via a leak by a Ukrainina MP...

1. Chevron gets the pipelines and energy sector.

2. Germans get the coal and steel sector.

3. USA gets airbases and missile bases.

4. All subsidies to families eliminated.

5. Pensions cut in half.

5. No more free public transportation.

6. Farmland sold off to Wall Street Banksters.

Those are the highlights.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10383713


^^ this ^^

The Ukraine has been carved up and sold before the coup d'etat even took place!!
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We have three objectives: Reassure NATO. Deter further Russian incursion into Ukraine. Reverse the annexation of Crimea.
Reassure NATO
We’re already sending U.S. aircraft to patrol the airspace of the Baltic states. That’s not enough.
1. Send the chairman of the Joint Chiefs to the Baltics to arrange joint maneuvers.
2. Same for the four NATO countries bordering Ukraine — Poland, Slovakia, Hungary and Romania.
3. Urgently revive the original missile defense agreements concluded with Poland and the Czech Republic before Obama canceled them unilaterally to appease Russia.
Deter further Russian incursions
1. Extend the Black Sea maneuvers in which the USS Truxtun is currently engaged with Romania and Bulgaria. These were previously scheduled. Order immediate — and continual -- follow-ons.
2. Declare that any further Russian military incursion beyond Crimea will lead to a rapid and favorable response from NATO to any request from Kiev for weapons.

[link to www.theadvertiser.com]
 Quoting: Limpan


I get your point, but if the missile defense shield is back on the table, then this situation will escalate. The rest is just posturing / rhetoric.

I don't know if Obama has it in him to bring back the defense shield, but if so, we may have a very serious problem.

Putin will most likely put nukes back into Cuba. if he does, then we really don't have a leg to stand on. IMO.

Then things get really wonky. One wrong move.....BOOM

Obama is an amateur. He has no clue how to play chess at this level. I think he may just wind up putting us into a very serious conflict if not nuclear war
 Quoting: Indiana Jones


You are right!! Obama will back off and let Putin dictate the borders!! He doesn't as oyu say, have it in him

hf

Even if I sound negative to the US, I have to say that I really love the american people, not there leaders(federal Reserve)
 Quoting: Limpan


No worries. I know what you mean. I agree. We don't like them either.

The biggest problem is the economics and the crash that I do believe is coming.

I personally think it will happen before the end of April. At least for the US.

I think Putin sees this coming. He might even be the one that helps pull the trigger on it.

That is why it is so important to keep those oil and gas lines in his hands.

if you think about how he accomplished this, it is bloody brilliant.

Not a shot fired and the people want to join.
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He has charisma, that is for sure. He speaks, and he is like the Pied Piper.
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When is the Paul McCartney fronted reunification concert with everyone singing "Back in the USSR"?
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You don't know how lucky you are, boy
Back in the US
Back in the US
Back in the USSR

Well the Ukraine girls really knock me out
They leave the West behind
And Moscow girls make me sing and shout
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The most immediate issue is those Ukrainian troops within Crimea.
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They will leave!!!
Come on .....
This is a done deal. West and the US can't do shit

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 Quoting: Limpan


I wouldn't say that just yet, they'd of left already, why haven't they?
For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF

If you give me red don’t be a pussy and put your name on it. Have the balls to stand by what you say
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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Yup. Putin has set the marker now
How will it look to the world if nato or west now attack any country.
Everyone will question this.
Everyone will ask why not put disputes to the vote, just like russia.

I think we are looking at a new era of understanding and negotiations without killings. Putin has set the pace.
Its far from perfect but it is a start

Last thing America needs now is a news that 30 children have been killed by an american drone in afghanistan. I hope it doesn't happen for the sake of those kids.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55778313


60% of people in Crimea were Russians. And Putin had large forces massed on Ukraine's borders to the east. So - shoot who? Russians with flags cheering?; Ukrainians didn't dare do anything. It's a hostile takeover even if no shots were fired.
 Quoting: Polemarchos


I don't agree. What about in Kiev? That was an illegal takeover, and who knows how many Ukrainians agreed with the takeover. There needed to be a vote, but that never happened, because the west wanted to get in there and take over before the people had a right to vote. And, as I hear it, it is 70% of Crimea were Russians, not 60%. Probably more so now, with people leaving Kiev and heading to Crimea.
 Quoting: katballoo


A vote was set for May 25. In all of Ukraine. The government in Kiev was only temporary, not set in stone. On May 25 the whole of Ukraine could have had a say. So why did Pootin hurry?





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