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katballoo
User ID: 40902433 Canada 03/18/2014 08:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 I watch most of the speech. As much as I hate to admit it, Putin does have a point. Quoting: Indiana Jones I Have to agree!!! WOW WOW WOW Putin has my respect..... Well, I'm a leaving, but wanted to end on this note. COMMUNISM HAS NEVER WORKED. It has killed more people than all other political ideologies combined. Millions starved to death, millions murdered. Do you even know what you are talking about??? It looks to me it is America that is turning communist, and Russia is less and less all the time. You need to look at your own Government, and see what's happening in your own backyard. Mine as well. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 55378407 United Kingdom 03/18/2014 08:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55378407 like i said, my problem is MY govt. MY govt are the ones who are a danger to me. not putin not a danger to you...for now. lol and again: if anyone in your government was as bad as putin, you'd really fucking go nuts. if you wouldn't support it for you, don't support it for others out of sheer selfishness and laziness. so when do you start making post after post criticising obama or the EU? or US foreign policy? you have no idea. my govt is a traitorous bunch of cunts. its a disease that has spread across the EU - govts that refuse to acknowledge the people at the risk of repeating myself, putin, for many people in europe and the west, stands as a symbol of somebody willing to stand up to our govts. that is all all you are doing is stating the bleeding obvious for the sake of being a devils advocate. come along now, make some practical suggestions when a war is being waged, sometimes you have to take sides, even if it means temporarily siding with your enemy putin isnt going to cross the english channel. besides, weve already been invaded, by fucking brussels So you want to fix your government and bring down the EU with the help of Russia? By having Russia grow and expand? How would that fix anything? Western problems will remain and worsen. They have to be fixed from within. Can't be fixed by Pootin. omg. very few people here seem to be able to discuss things with any finesse or nuance how the fuck is russia expanding? how is russia expanding by force? how is russia expanding without a democratic say? no, thats the EU why are people pissing on about what russia is doing on it own own doorstep - instigated by, we should add, a US and the EU-backed coup d'etat in kiev? right now, be way more worried about the EU |
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Indiana Jones
User ID: 37475791 United States 03/18/2014 08:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 We have three objectives: Reassure NATO. Deter further Russian incursion into Ukraine. Reverse the annexation of Crimea. Quoting: Limpan Reassure NATO We’re already sending U.S. aircraft to patrol the airspace of the Baltic states. That’s not enough. 1. Send the chairman of the Joint Chiefs to the Baltics to arrange joint maneuvers. 2. Same for the four NATO countries bordering Ukraine — Poland, Slovakia, Hungary and Romania. 3. Urgently revive the original missile defense agreements concluded with Poland and the Czech Republic before Obama canceled them unilaterally to appease Russia. Deter further Russian incursions 1. Extend the Black Sea maneuvers in which the USS Truxtun is currently engaged with Romania and Bulgaria. These were previously scheduled. Order immediate — and continual -- follow-ons. 2. Declare that any further Russian military incursion beyond Crimea will lead to a rapid and favorable response from NATO to any request from Kiev for weapons. [link to www.theadvertiser.com] I get your point, but if the missile defense shield is back on the table, then this situation will escalate. The rest is just posturing / rhetoric. I don't know if Obama has it in him to bring back the defense shield, but if so, we may have a very serious problem. Putin will most likely put nukes back into Cuba. if he does, then we really don't have a leg to stand on. IMO. Then things get really wonky. One wrong move.....BOOM Obama is an amateur. He has no clue how to play chess at this level. I think he may just wind up putting us into a very serious conflict if not nuclear war You are right!! Obama will back off and let Putin dictate the borders!! He doesn't as oyu say, have it in him Even if I sound negative to the US, I have to say that I really love the american people, not there leaders(federal Reserve) No worries. I know what you mean. I agree. We don't like them either. The biggest problem is the economics and the crash that I do believe is coming. I personally think it will happen before the end of April. At least for the US. I think Putin sees this coming. He might even be the one that helps pull the trigger on it. That is why it is so important to keep those oil and gas lines in his hands. if you think about how he accomplished this, it is bloody brilliant. Not a shot fired and the people want to join. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak |
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The Scientist
User ID: 23788152 United Kingdom 03/18/2014 08:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 House of Commons: William Hague G7 to snub Russia, will meet without them. Last Edited by The Scientist on 03/18/2014 09:00 AM |
Nordic Wolf
User ID: 55782141 Sweden 03/18/2014 09:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Cant find anything on CNN. What is he saying?? Loosing an illusion makes you wiser than finding a truth. ~Ludwig Börne Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it. ~Andre Gide Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw |
katballoo
User ID: 40902433 Canada 03/18/2014 09:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Yup. Putin has set the marker now Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55778313 How will it look to the world if nato or west now attack any country. Everyone will question this. Everyone will ask why not put disputes to the vote, just like russia. I think we are looking at a new era of understanding and negotiations without killings. Putin has set the pace. Its far from perfect but it is a start Last thing America needs now is a news that 30 children have been killed by an american drone in afghanistan. I hope it doesn't happen for the sake of those kids. 60% of people in Crimea were Russians. And Putin had large forces massed on Ukraine's borders to the east. So - shoot who? Russians with flags cheering?; Ukrainians didn't dare do anything. It's a hostile takeover even if no shots were fired. I don't agree. What about in Kiev? That was an illegal takeover, and who knows how many Ukrainians agreed with the takeover. There needed to be a vote, but that never happened, because the west wanted to get in there and take over before the people had a right to vote. And, as I hear it, it is 70% of Crimea were Russians, not 60%. Probably more so now, with people leaving Kiev and heading to Crimea. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55488284 Canada 03/18/2014 09:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Tamar‏@tamarabraham·2 mins Quoting: Newshunter Romania president: 'chain of frozen conflicts around Black Sea that can be set off at any time'; Moldova in danger [link to nyti.ms] Poland, Romania, Baltics, Moldova, now Ukraine.... have read Pootin. He wants to rebuild the Soviet Union. People in the West appalud him. Oh well.... nevermind, they are in for rude awakenings soon enough. This is just the beginning. Perhaps, that is the masterplan? The civilized Europe realized the blunder and the danger from letting you 'join' the familily, and now they bribed Obama and some punks in Ukraine in hope of tricking Putin to take you back? Good luck, but I am afraid the Russians made it amply clear today they want no business with you whatsoever. And who can blame them. You guys are the Europe's leper colony. :( |
Newshunter
User ID: 22884594 United States 03/18/2014 09:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Very hardline speech from Putin - no sign whatsoever of de-escalation. Rubicon being crossed in east-west relations Robert Coalson‏@CoalsonR·12 mins Biden about to speak in Poland. He's got a really tough act to follow. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 48420715 United States 03/18/2014 09:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 It seems to me that Crimea wants to be a part of Russia and is a majority Russian themselves, so what's the problem? This is just a minor adjustment from the early 90's chaos. I don't think Vlad is planning on recapturing the Soviet Union. |
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Polemarchos
User ID: 50576485 Romania 03/18/2014 09:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 how the fuck is russia expanding? how is russia expanding by force? how is russia expanding without a democratic say? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55378407 no, thats the EU why are people pissing on about what russia is doing on it own own doorstep - instigated by, we should add, a US and the EU-backed coup d'etat in kiev? right now, be way more worried about the EU Russia just annexed Crimea and youre asking me how is Russia expanding? Yes 60% of people in Crimea are Russians and wanted to join Russia. That doesnt change the fact that this is the first annexation in Europe in 7 decades and it changes the game. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44911719 Guatemala 03/18/2014 09:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Why does Putin not encourage a legal recognized referendum on whether the Ukraine should re-join Russia. Quoting: ThesonofhendriX At the end of the day it's got to be the peoples choice. You can't just wage a war of conquest. Not in 2014. No, but you can give a stupid/lying reason and wage war. The US does it everyday. |
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2012Portal
2012Portal - Mayan Beyond 2012 User ID: 15022013 Netherlands 03/18/2014 09:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 LOL So, what is the mood like in the Ukraine? What does the rest of the Ukraine think about this deal? EuroMaidan crowd is not too happy ... I'll wander outside later to see the mood of the people here in the South I know my friends near the Polish border are not very happy, at all. This is down-right un-real that it is happening like this to them. A false flag in Kiev to create an avalanche that happened like that (snap-of-fingers). From the love of power to the power of Love - My camera and video gear: [link to graphicstart.com] --- --- --- "Jesus Christ, the Son of God our Savior" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55378407 United Kingdom 03/18/2014 09:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Yup. Putin has set the marker now Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55778313 How will it look to the world if nato or west now attack any country. Everyone will question this. Everyone will ask why not put disputes to the vote, just like russia. I think we are looking at a new era of understanding and negotiations without killings. Putin has set the pace. Its far from perfect but it is a start Last thing America needs now is a news that 30 children have been killed by an american drone in afghanistan. I hope it doesn't happen for the sake of those kids. 60% of people in Crimea were Russians. And Putin had large forces massed on Ukraine's borders to the east. So - shoot who? Russians with flags cheering?; Ukrainians didn't dare do anything. It's a hostile takeover even if no shots were fired. I don't agree. What about in Kiev? That was an illegal takeover, and who knows how many Ukrainians agreed with the takeover. There needed to be a vote, but that never happened, because the west wanted to get in there and take over before the people had a right to vote. And, as I hear it, it is 70% of Crimea were Russians, not 60%. Probably more so now, with people leaving Kiev and heading to Crimea. this |
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Newshunter
User ID: 22884594 United States 03/18/2014 09:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 RT @ajamlive: Hague: There is a grave danger that a provocation elsewhere in Ukraine could be used as a pretext for further military escalation-@Reeuters Last Edited by Newshunter on 03/18/2014 09:07 AM |
Limpan
User ID: 1474973 Sweden 03/18/2014 09:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 We have three objectives: Reassure NATO. Deter further Russian incursion into Ukraine. Reverse the annexation of Crimea. Quoting: Limpan Reassure NATO We’re already sending U.S. aircraft to patrol the airspace of the Baltic states. That’s not enough. 1. Send the chairman of the Joint Chiefs to the Baltics to arrange joint maneuvers. 2. Same for the four NATO countries bordering Ukraine — Poland, Slovakia, Hungary and Romania. 3. Urgently revive the original missile defense agreements concluded with Poland and the Czech Republic before Obama canceled them unilaterally to appease Russia. Deter further Russian incursions 1. Extend the Black Sea maneuvers in which the USS Truxtun is currently engaged with Romania and Bulgaria. These were previously scheduled. Order immediate — and continual -- follow-ons. 2. Declare that any further Russian military incursion beyond Crimea will lead to a rapid and favorable response from NATO to any request from Kiev for weapons. [link to www.theadvertiser.com] I get your point, but if the missile defense shield is back on the table, then this situation will escalate. The rest is just posturing / rhetoric. I don't know if Obama has it in him to bring back the defense shield, but if so, we may have a very serious problem. Putin will most likely put nukes back into Cuba. if he does, then we really don't have a leg to stand on. IMO. Then things get really wonky. One wrong move.....BOOM Obama is an amateur. He has no clue how to play chess at this level. I think he may just wind up putting us into a very serious conflict if not nuclear war You are right!! Obama will back off and let Putin dictate the borders!! He doesn't as oyu say, have it in him Even if I sound negative to the US, I have to say that I really love the american people, not there leaders(federal Reserve) No worries. I know what you mean. I agree. We don't like them either. The biggest problem is the economics and the crash that I do believe is coming. I personally think it will happen before the end of April. At least for the US. I think Putin sees this coming. He might even be the one that helps pull the trigger on it. That is why it is so important to keep those oil and gas lines in his hands. if you think about how he accomplished this, it is bloody brilliant. Not a shot fired and the people want to join. And who where the partnes in the speech?? China and India..... |
KipKat
User ID: 25952351 Netherlands 03/18/2014 09:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 As things go Forward. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55698289 - expect mass pro-Russian manifestations in South and East of Ukraine - Expect Kiev nutcases trying to crack down on it - Expect USA to still back up the Kiev regime - Expect Putin to send 'Tourists' to Ukraine to aid the protests. - Expect USA/NATO to secure West-Ukraine where they will be welcomed by people fearing the Russian whip. Then we will have standoff for Kiev Hey, I've got an idea, how about Ukraine and Crimea fight off the freakin' Communist dictator and remember the millions of people who have died under Communism. Bush tried to get the EU to stand beside Crimea and Ukraine and Georgia, but EU blinked and Putin took Georgia. Bush wanted to bring them all into NATO before Putin started his Bolshevik power grabs. How did that work out? And Obama has done NOTHING for 5 years but promote solar panels and golf. Check out Webster Tarpley's latest podcast... Tarpley lays out the West's financial rape of Ukraine via a leak by a Ukrainina MP... 1. Chevron gets the pipelines and energy sector. 2. Germans get the coal and steel sector. 3. USA gets airbases and missile bases. 4. All subsidies to families eliminated. 5. Pensions cut in half. 5. No more free public transportation. 6. Farmland sold off to Wall Street Banksters. Those are the highlights. ^^ this ^^ The Ukraine has been carved up and sold before the coup d'etat even took place!! :kkwapper: |
2012Portal
2012Portal - Mayan Beyond 2012 User ID: 15022013 Netherlands 03/18/2014 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 It seems to me that Crimea wants to be a part of Russia and is a majority Russian themselves, so what's the problem? This is just a minor adjustment from the early 90's chaos. I don't think Vlad is planning on recapturing the Soviet Union. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48420715 And when California or Texas wants to go back to Mexico - are you fine with that too? From the love of power to the power of Love - My camera and video gear: [link to graphicstart.com] --- --- --- "Jesus Christ, the Son of God our Savior" |
me777
User ID: 43150400 Canada 03/18/2014 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 As things go Forward. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55698289 - expect mass pro-Russian manifestations in South and East of Ukraine - Expect Kiev nutcases trying to crack down on it - Expect USA to still back up the Kiev regime - Expect Putin to send 'Tourists' to Ukraine to aid the protests. - Expect USA/NATO to secure West-Ukraine where they will be welcomed by people fearing the Russian whip. Then we will have standoff for Kiev Hey, I've got an idea, how about Ukraine and Crimea fight off the freakin' Communist dictator and remember the millions of people who have died under Communism. Bush tried to get the EU to stand beside Crimea and Ukraine and Georgia, but EU blinked and Putin took Georgia. Bush wanted to bring them all into NATO before Putin started his Bolshevik power grabs. How did that work out? And Obama has done NOTHING for 5 years but promote solar panels and golf. Check out Webster Tarpley's latest podcast... Tarpley lays out the West's financial rape of Ukraine via a leak by a Ukrainina MP... 1. Chevron gets the pipelines and energy sector. 2. Germans get the coal and steel sector. 3. USA gets airbases and missile bases. 4. All subsidies to families eliminated. 5. Pensions cut in half. 5. No more free public transportation. 6. Farmland sold off to Wall Street Banksters. Those are the highlights. ^^ this ^^ The Ukraine has been carved up and sold before the coup d'etat even took place!! Subscribe to my blog: Exposing The Darkness End times headline news. Research and analysis of world events in light of Bible prophecy. [link to lionessofjudah.substack.com (secure)] |
katballoo
User ID: 40902433 Canada 03/18/2014 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 We have three objectives: Reassure NATO. Deter further Russian incursion into Ukraine. Reverse the annexation of Crimea. Quoting: Limpan Reassure NATO We’re already sending U.S. aircraft to patrol the airspace of the Baltic states. That’s not enough. 1. Send the chairman of the Joint Chiefs to the Baltics to arrange joint maneuvers. 2. Same for the four NATO countries bordering Ukraine — Poland, Slovakia, Hungary and Romania. 3. Urgently revive the original missile defense agreements concluded with Poland and the Czech Republic before Obama canceled them unilaterally to appease Russia. Deter further Russian incursions 1. Extend the Black Sea maneuvers in which the USS Truxtun is currently engaged with Romania and Bulgaria. These were previously scheduled. Order immediate — and continual -- follow-ons. 2. Declare that any further Russian military incursion beyond Crimea will lead to a rapid and favorable response from NATO to any request from Kiev for weapons. [link to www.theadvertiser.com] I get your point, but if the missile defense shield is back on the table, then this situation will escalate. The rest is just posturing / rhetoric. I don't know if Obama has it in him to bring back the defense shield, but if so, we may have a very serious problem. Putin will most likely put nukes back into Cuba. if he does, then we really don't have a leg to stand on. IMO. Then things get really wonky. One wrong move.....BOOM Obama is an amateur. He has no clue how to play chess at this level. I think he may just wind up putting us into a very serious conflict if not nuclear war You are right!! Obama will back off and let Putin dictate the borders!! He doesn't as oyu say, have it in him Even if I sound negative to the US, I have to say that I really love the american people, not there leaders(federal Reserve) No worries. I know what you mean. I agree. We don't like them either. The biggest problem is the economics and the crash that I do believe is coming. I personally think it will happen before the end of April. At least for the US. I think Putin sees this coming. He might even be the one that helps pull the trigger on it. That is why it is so important to keep those oil and gas lines in his hands. if you think about how he accomplished this, it is bloody brilliant. Not a shot fired and the people want to join. He has charisma, that is for sure. He speaks, and he is like the Pied Piper. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38182605 Romania 03/18/2014 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 When is the Paul McCartney fronted reunification concert with everyone singing "Back in the USSR"? Quoting: zenobiaphobia You don't know how lucky you are, boy Back in the US Back in the US Back in the USSR Well the Ukraine girls really knock me out They leave the West behind And Moscow girls make me sing and shout |
GodzillaReturns
Apex Predator User ID: 1077295 United States 03/18/2014 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 The most immediate issue is those Ukrainian troops within Crimea. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55683583 They will leave!!! Come on ..... This is a done deal. West and the US can't do shit :beaten: I wouldn't say that just yet, they'd of left already, why haven't they? For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF If you give me red don’t be a pussy and put your name on it. Have the balls to stand by what you say |
Polemarchos
User ID: 50576485 Romania 03/18/2014 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Yup. Putin has set the marker now Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55778313 How will it look to the world if nato or west now attack any country. Everyone will question this. Everyone will ask why not put disputes to the vote, just like russia. I think we are looking at a new era of understanding and negotiations without killings. Putin has set the pace. Its far from perfect but it is a start Last thing America needs now is a news that 30 children have been killed by an american drone in afghanistan. I hope it doesn't happen for the sake of those kids. 60% of people in Crimea were Russians. And Putin had large forces massed on Ukraine's borders to the east. So - shoot who? Russians with flags cheering?; Ukrainians didn't dare do anything. It's a hostile takeover even if no shots were fired. I don't agree. What about in Kiev? That was an illegal takeover, and who knows how many Ukrainians agreed with the takeover. There needed to be a vote, but that never happened, because the west wanted to get in there and take over before the people had a right to vote. And, as I hear it, it is 70% of Crimea were Russians, not 60%. Probably more so now, with people leaving Kiev and heading to Crimea. A vote was set for May 25. In all of Ukraine. The government in Kiev was only temporary, not set in stone. On May 25 the whole of Ukraine could have had a say. So why did Pootin hurry? |