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Media reported that on 17-18 December , the President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko will pay a visit to the Polish government. During the meeting, will be discussed , inter alia, strengthening the partnership between the countries and cooperation in the security zone . And some comments about Waltzman ohyeah The carcass of Ukraine has the audacity to come to Polish probably to apologize for Volyn , and still do not wash the blood from the legs syjonistycznonazistowskich Putin should burn a Nazi tribe to the ground , it is regrettable that the Polish losers pronounced .. people who have the audacity to sell Poland represent us but what do you expect from hypocrites . Let them take care of our children with the Polish nation . SHARE WILL HELP TVN announced it would make a worthy goal was to help the Ukrainian ścierwolandi

Poroshenko Mr. President , with all due respect , I would like to tell you :
Fuck off ! As an aid to the Polish Nation , get yourself Bula Komorowski digger , in support of the military , indeed lunch , if you like ..
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What's about Porsche?
The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).
No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it:
Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms.
It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people.
That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
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yoda

This time...no turning back.
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What would actually West do if red army starts to hit strategic locations with Iskanders. Not populated areas, but army bases deep in the west of UA, bridges, railroads, some hardcore air raids over Lviv. Could be done, without one Russian soldier passing the NovoRussian border. I would do that, if I was Putin.
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I would share and donate if I would have any. I got my paycheck today, 682 euroes. When my yenk boss saw the paper he asked: Is that a weeks pay? I replied, nope whole month included night shifts.
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yoda

This time...no turning back.
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What would actually West do if red army starts to hit strategic locations with Iskanders. Not populated areas, but army bases deep in the west of UA, bridges, railroads, some hardcore air raids over Lviv. Could be done, without one Russian soldier passing the NovoRussian border. I would do that, if I was Putin.
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Probably they will fuck off once and for good!Remember Georgia?
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I know it's completly OT. But it's very important, I am crying. This need all possible visibility.

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I would share and donate if I would have any. I got my paycheck today, 682 euroes. When my yenk boss saw the paper he asked: Is that a weeks pay? I replied, nope whole month included night shifts.
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Lucky you :)
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Repr. of Border Service: #Russia|n troops (aprox. 50K) are openly maneuvering now in different directions along the #Ukraine’s border


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siren2siren2siren2
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yoda

This time...no turning back.
 Quoting: PIR


What would actually West do if red army starts to hit strategic locations with Iskanders. Not populated areas, but army bases deep in the west of UA, bridges, railroads, some hardcore air raids over Lviv. Could be done, without one Russian soldier passing the NovoRussian border. I would do that, if I was Putin.
 Quoting: Matjaz


they wouldn't have to, ukrainian army will not fight (official) russian army as we have seen from Crimea

and russian army would drink coffee in Kiev with them and get back home the same day since there is no reason for them to be displaced there
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Lavrov: Russia to react immediately if Obama signs Ukraine support act
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NATO is already all over Ukraine borders, RU from the other side, will Russia dare to attack, knowing they would be halted halfway of their march?
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They will enter Ukraine with aviation, I bet on this.
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Hmm, This would be their best option. So when Barack is going to sign it? Maybe now hes gonna change his mind, shit just got real again with than info about Russians redeployed on Ukr border
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Ukraine army got quite a few s300 batteries, beside other hight tech SAMs, like BUK missiles. It would be a challange for Russian air force, same as in Georgia where they lost quite a few jet fighters. Red army should first take out those threat locations, with Iskanders. They should help NAF, enough for them to advance, at least to take Mariupol. If Mariupol doesnt come into NAF hands I considered it as a defeat for rebels, taking in account whole war.
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I know it's completly OT. But it's very important, I am crying. This need all possible visibility.

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I would share and donate if I would have any. I got my paycheck today, 682 euroes. When my yenk boss saw the paper he asked: Is that a weeks pay? I replied, nope whole month included night shifts.
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Lucky you :)
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was that sarcasm? chuckle
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Putin defended the oligarchs and said some people are rich other poor, some healthy other sick. After that, I can't see how he could raw support of the majority of the Russians who are NOT oligarchs. In the time of crisis unseen for decade. Perhaps the only choice of Putin is the military intervention abroad to justify the shortcomings at home and to consolidate power among the ranks.

He received a direct question whether a "palace coup" (Russian expression for coup within the highest ranks) could happen after Putin took all major decisions in 15 years. He laughed that there were no palaces in Russia anymore, but that Kremlin is guarded well and, most importantly, the people of Russia guard the government and himself and approve them. Well he actually didn't answer how about the internal opposition of hi ranks, that is understood by the term "palace coup". How about the generals who do not agree with him.

Instead, he lashed at the BBC reporter about the US bases close to Russian borders. I guess the generals will like only that part of his answers, not the economic part. So we go straight into the question, will Putin allow intervention in Ukraine to quell the dissent within Russia itself. And if it will be enough.
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Do you understand Russian? He defended the majority, not the oligarchs. Don't know who translates his speech for you.
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He just said in the last question: he accepts personal responsibility, and will search personal responsibility from all ranks about the economic crisis.

If you doubt my Russian, you'd better turn to the English translation when it is posted online. Of course I don't quote word by word, but make a summary. Sorry of any mistakes!
The oligarchs with the big money in the offshore zones don't need the support of Putin in the time of the biggest crisis during his 15 years in office! That would understand every child, Russian or foreign!
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who are you trying to fool? I listened to that part...He said to him all russians are equal, whether rich, poor, sick or healthy...
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I don't try to fool anyone. It seems you completely misunderstand the tone of Putin. Yes he spoke of the elite being not the oligarchs but the workers and the peasants. What rhetoric! He said, there are mostly good rich people, as there are rich and poor, healthy and sick...Almost as saying, the rich are rich because they work better, and the poor are poor because they are sick. I will wait for the transcript. He talked about oligarchs to declare their wealth and get amnesty or whatever, and that they will be accepted in Russia until proven guilty. He gave a joke example of some offshore company on some islands, how the oligarchs lost money and needed the protection of the state. I understood the general meaning, although I could misunderstand and misquote some parts of it.

I don't make you fool. Putin took the side of the oligarchs, while speaking of all people being equal, and the peasants being the elite of Russia. I don't think the peasants of Russia will like that rhetoric. Even if they were a part of those who voted for him as president!

Thanks God, he was asked twice, first of the possibility of coup within his own ranks, and second for the personal responsibility because of the crisis. That was actually the last question, and good to hear from Mr Putin he takes personal responsibility of the crisis.

Sorry man, but now I repeat things I already said, first in this thread! If you listened so carefully, why don't you post it instead? Need not say I misinform you. Go and post your verse and we will compare them when the transcript comes up.
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whats this reporter talking about? He sounds drunk af
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I know it's completly OT. But it's very important, I am crying. This need all possible visibility.

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I would share and donate if I would have any. I got my paycheck today, 682 euroes. When my yenk boss saw the paper he asked: Is that a weeks pay? I replied, nope whole month included night shifts.
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Lucky you :)
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was that sarcasm? chuckle
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LOL,I wish it was.
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siren2siren2siren2
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


yoda

This time...no turning back.
 Quoting: PIR


What would actually West do if red army starts to hit strategic locations with Iskanders. Not populated areas, but army bases deep in the west of UA, bridges, railroads, some hardcore air raids over Lviv. Could be done, without one Russian soldier passing the NovoRussian border. I would do that, if I was Putin.
 Quoting: Matjaz


West will poop its pants. But really, I read a few years ago that NATO and especially Americans will face really serious problems in the case of conventional war. For over two decades are all members of American armed forces are trained for asimetric warfare. It is much more closer to police work. Also armament has been modified for this kind of fight. Todays MRAPs are much more resistent against insurgents attacks (ambushes, hiden explosives) but they are not combat vehicles. But still main problem is training and war strategy. Habits and behavior of the troops. Hell, if I can just remember where it was published...
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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whats this reporter talking about? He sounds drunk af

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Do you understand Russian? He defended the majority, not the oligarchs. Don't know who translates his speech for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31471633


He just said in the last question: he accepts personal responsibility, and will search personal responsibility from all ranks about the economic crisis.

If you doubt my Russian, you'd better turn to the English translation when it is posted online. Of course I don't quote word by word, but make a summary. Sorry of any mistakes!
The oligarchs with the big money in the offshore zones don't need the support of Putin in the time of the biggest crisis during his 15 years in office! That would understand every child, Russian or foreign!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66130460

who are you trying to fool? I listened to that part...He said to him all russians are equal, whether rich, poor, sick or healthy...
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I don't try to fool anyone. It seems you completely misunderstand the tone of Putin. Yes he spoke of the elite being not the oligarchs but the workers and the peasants. What rhetoric! He said, there are mostly good rich people, as there are rich and poor, healthy and sick...Almost as saying, the rich are rich because they work better, and the poor are poor because they are sick. I will wait for the transcript. He talked about oligarchs to declare their wealth and get amnesty or whatever, and that they will be accepted in Russia until proven guilty. He gave a joke example of some offshore company on some islands, how the oligarchs lost money and needed the protection of the state. I understood the general meaning, although I could misunderstand and misquote some parts of it.

I don't make you fool. Putin took the side of the oligarchs, while speaking of all people being equal, and the peasants being the elite of Russia. I don't think the peasants of Russia will like that rhetoric. Even if they were a part of those who voted for him as president!

Thanks God, he was asked twice, first of the possibility of coup within his own ranks, and second for the personal responsibility because of the crisis. That was actually the last question, and good to hear from Mr Putin he takes personal responsibility of the crisis.

Sorry man, but now I repeat things I already said, first in this thread! If you listened so carefully, why don't you post it instead? Need not say I misinform you. Go and post your verse and we will compare them when the transcript comes up.
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you are blowing it out of proportion. He said the elites are the peasants because historically they are the foundation of the russian State. Thats how I understood it...You are saying hes putting oligarchs on a pedestal...which I didnt hear from his speech. I understood it as if he wouldnt discriminate against any russian...
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I would share and donate if I would have any. I got my paycheck today, 682 euroes. When my yenk boss saw the paper he asked: Is that a weeks pay? I replied, nope whole month included night shifts.
 Quoting: Matjaz


Lucky you :)
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was that sarcasm? chuckle
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LOL,I wish it was.
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Only thing I could afford is a new credit card. Why? After 8+ years it would be fair to buy GLP membership, for the first time. OK, enough of the OT...
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I know it's completly OT. But it's very important, I am crying. This need all possible visibility.

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I would share and donate if I would have any. I got my paycheck today, 682 euroes. When my yenk boss saw the paper he asked: Is that a weeks pay? I replied, nope whole month included night shifts.
 Quoting: Matjaz


Is this netto?

But believe me or not, meanwhile there are many people here in Germany with fulltime job getting <1000 € brutto.

It's all for the bail-outs and now for Ukraine too.
The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).
No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it:
Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms.
It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people.
That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
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I would share and donate if I would have any. I got my paycheck today, 682 euroes. When my yenk boss saw the paper he asked: Is that a weeks pay? I replied, nope whole month included night shifts.
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Is this netto?

But believe me or not, meanwhile there are many people here in Germany with fulltime job getting <1000 € brutto.

It's all for the bail-outs and now for Ukraine too.
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yes, brutto is about 1200 euros. So you can see how much taxed are we. Half of the payheck takes social state ;)
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whats this reporter talking about? He sounds drunk af

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What was that? Someone shows a poster "BAKU 2015"???
The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).
No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it:
Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms.
It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people.
That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
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naf under fire
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whats this reporter talking about? He sounds drunk af

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What was that? Someone shows a poster "BAKU 2015"???
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I didnt watch it, cause I dont understand. Did a guy had heart attack?
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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
marqs &#8207;@MarQs__ 8 min.
Repr. of Border Service: #Russia|n troops (aprox. 50K) are openly maneuvering now in different directions along the #Ukraine’s border


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@MarQs__ via @MrKovalenko


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 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


yoda

This time...no turning back.
 Quoting: PIR


What would actually West do if red army starts to hit strategic locations with Iskanders. Not populated areas, but army bases deep in the west of UA, bridges, railroads, some hardcore air raids over Lviv. Could be done, without one Russian soldier passing the NovoRussian border. I would do that, if I was Putin.
 Quoting: Matjaz


West will poop its pants. But really, I read a few years ago that NATO and especially Americans will face really serious problems in the case of conventional war. For over two decades are all members of American armed forces are trained for asimetric warfare. It is much more closer to police work. Also armament has been modified for this kind of fight. Todays MRAPs are much more resistent against insurgents attacks (ambushes, hiden explosives) but they are not combat vehicles. But still main problem is training and war strategy. Habits and behavior of the troops. Hell, if I can just remember where it was published...
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Yesterday I read that our "Heckler&Koch" guns are not for battle. When they get hot, they can no longer hit the target.
The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).
No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it:
Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms.
It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people.
That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
I found this article accidentally, it is from 19th of February 2014. I don't know if something about that was even mentoined. But it was surely forgotten. It happend before coup and before Yanukovich escape.

Crimea threats it will join Russia

Conversely, Crimea, which became part of Ukraine during the reign of Nikita Khrushchev, is inclined to Russia. The local council of the Crimean Autonomous Republic urged Yanukovych to take special measures in order to preserve the constitutional order and unity of Ukraine. Opponents of Yanukovych refers to neo-Nazis.

A representative of the Party of Regions Nikolai Kolisnichenko yet warned that if the president fails, Members (of Crimean Parliament) may consider the connection to Russia.

Another deputy Sergei Shuvainikov from Simferopol defended joining Russia for Radio Liberty: "It is the result of a political stance that rejects the Russians, for whom the language is their main symbol of Russian nationality. Refuse them the right to remind children and young people that they are Russians. In fact, it is the destruction of Russian nationality."

[link to www.novinky.cz]


I just want to remind that the idea about joining Russia was here before violent coup was successfully conducted.
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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something for the poles here [link to www.kp.ru]
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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Nice stuff the US approved of today - these are good ones:

US plans to fund $20 Million in annual support to Russian civil and democratic Organizations

Ukraine Freedom support act will send some $350 Million in Assistance to country

 Quoting: Bes Maat


In other words, more quicksand for the struggling and a much much higher death toll for those cold and starving.

No hesitation anymore when it comes to doublespeak.
 Quoting: DawaSatso


Between that and the retarded EU decisions today, they're not even bothering to hide their real intentions. But they still point at others for fault, even though they're only reacting to their screwed up politics.
It's like taking the ice cream popsicle away from a little child, and then complain that it is crying and saying "look how a misbehaving little brat".
 Quoting: Bes Maat


That's it, open homicide and criminality. Advance and take is the assumed propriety.
After reading Obla's latest penalties for int'l gas cos supplying fuel to Syria..and that he's still calling the butchers he unleashed there victims of Assad while the whole world knows otherwise and 5 million on the run tht fucker & crew standing over us terrifies me anew every time.
But I try to limit my exposure to anything he says.

No doubt about it some are born with their brains flipped backwards in their brainpan. That has to be it.





GLP