UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
KneelB4Zod! User ID: 11473197 Czechia 01/25/2015 08:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Command center of Kiev military operations: [link to pp.vk.me (secure)] Quoting: KneelB4Zod! The National University of Defense of Ukraine must be a really shit school. Quoting: Kanadski Hope you noticed the guy on the right... Last Edited by KneelB4Zod! on 01/25/2015 08:15 PM “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3939038 United States 01/25/2015 08:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Command center of Kiev military operations: [link to pp.vk.me (secure)] Quoting: KneelB4Zod! Quoting: 911 67356592 The dog is probably the commanding officer.
Tamonten User ID: 34754802 Russia 01/25/2015 08:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... See this is where you are completely wrong, about 95% of Russians living in Estonia were imported here during the Soviet Union (or their descendants) for the purpose of Russification. The Russian population in Estonia before the Soviet Union only consisted of a few village communities of the "old believers", who lived peacefully on the shores of lake Peipus. They constituted for less than 5% of Estonia's population. Quoting: Blueyez: Are you plain ignorant or just lying? 24% of Estonians today have russian roots, and they have been there as early as 1030, first russian orthodox church was built in 16th century, even the Estonian language has a lot of russian influence and russian words. The beginning of continuous Russian settlement in what is now Estonia dates back to the late 17th century. The second period of influx of Russians followed the Imperial Russian era, and the third was during rapid Industrialisation in the 19th century. BTW, Eastern Germans are mostly ethnic Poles.. and Germans west of the Rhine river are mostly ethnic French... So what? If you have to distinguish peoples by ancestry it only shows me what a low self esteem you have, and how much you don't understand the most basic idea of the EU. What a joke.. Quoting: OTTO VON BISMARCK As I've been telling from the very beginning - this person knows nothing and doesnt even want to know anything. Sad indeed. There is a version of legend about Rurick, legendary founder of first Russian dynasty, in which he originated from Prussia - not so far from forementioned Baltic states. And, according to somethng I've heard, Berlin was originally founded by Slavs. Not my subject though, so I can't prove or deny it. Actually, the whole "this is our historical land" is pretty much meaningless while Kurds and Basques still doesn't have their own statehood. Well, not even mentioning Indians etc. Quoting: Tamonten Yes absolutely correct, 1/3 of Germany was originally Slavic in respect of language and territory. City and town ames like Berlin, Chemnitz, Güstrow f.ex are reminders of this, also Family names and regular words have slavic origins. The early Slavic people were called Wenden, same ones as in Baltic states including now known Estonia. The entire region of Oder/Neiße is also known as "Germania Slavica". Another group are Sorben, who have beautifully preserved their cultural heritage. Berlin, my hometown, was indeed founded by Slavic tribes around the 7th century.. by "Havel und Spree Slawen". The word Prussia [Preussen] has it's origin from Baltics. Quoting: OTTO VON BISMARCK Well, that's it. I'm glad I was right. Also it's really hard to say where Germanized Slavs end and Slavized Germand begin. And not sure if it's really important. After all, Russians never had a real reason to be an enemy of German people. All the wives of Russian Emperors were of German origin (including Catherine the Great), German nobles of Baltics were subjects of Empire for many generations (and on highest positions of government - if with mixed results sometimes), during Seven Years' war Eastern Prussia even swore fealty to Russian crown (even if it didn't last long). Hell, current head of Gazprom have German family name! The hostility began only n 20th century with the help of our good old anglo-saxon "friends". And now there's no hostility on our side again. We separate Nazis from normal German people. As much as we separate Bandera followers and other scum from common citizens of f.Ukraine. Hence the new ethnic slur "ukrop" and usage of anecdotical "ukr" pseudoethnonim. We instinctively do not want to use old traditional "khokhol" slur for this beings in fear of tarnishing it. "When every one is dead the Great Game is finished. Not before." - Rudyard Kipling, "Kim" (1901) "But we are still alive." - Thread: "The Great Game" by Mikhail Leontyev (2007-2008) "Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination." - Brandon Sanderson, "The Way of Kings" "Russia is the great Christian country with rich Islamic history" - Vladimir Solovyov (Russian Jew) Quos Iupiter perdere vult, dementat. "Europe can wait while the Russian tsar fishes." - Alexander III The Peacemaker Thread: I'm Russian – ask me a question. Be it about Russia or a personal one. Thread: From Rus' to Russia - grand concert on the Red Square, June 12th 2015 - please help with translation! Remember that future is always proceeded by its shadows.
THE WATCHER User ID: 67374077 Australia 01/25/2015 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 The fact is AMERICA NEVER GOES TO WAR WITH A NUCLEAR POWER. The Americams and bankers know the EU is fucked and are well aware if the eu goes under then the money will have to go somewhere a d that somewhere is the AMERICAN DOLLAR. The global elite are throwing EUROPE under the Russian bus ! the eu is fucked and America knows it. Its the same old story America and the bankers create wars in other countries so it wont directly effect America then sell weapons to both sides. Then when both sides have ruined each other and their economies are exhausted from funding the war. Along come the bankers eg the IMF with big fiat juicy loans to rebuild from the rubble or ruble lol But of course when the waring parties governments colapse due to no money or infrstructure the Bankers then install a puppet government they control. Why fight your enemies just let them anhialate each other then swoop in and clean up the scraps. We will see a massive war in europe and the middle east at the same time, but the united states will not get involved militarily in europe, they will attack the middle east and sit and wait just as they did in the second world war and come in at the end to look like the saviours of mankind. I fully expect a world war but it will be russia against the baltics eg polamd switzerland amd others in europe and america will take out the middle east. And CHINA well they most likely will take asia while RUSSIA AND AMERICA are to busy. Like i have always said when AMERICA DOESNT HAVE AUSTRALIAS BACK CHINA WILL POUNCE WW3 IS HERE OPEN YOUR EYES Russia Ukraine, Israel Iran, Isis, America, Middle east, Eu money printing, Greece exit, Spain. Venezuela, etc etc Time is short WW3 BY JUNE AT LEAST PREPARE NOW !
Kanadski User ID: 3886841 Canada 01/25/2015 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Euromaidan ‏@InfoEuromaidan · 30m30 minutes ago Happy first anniversary of the standoff between police and rioters in the Maidan [link to ow.ly] Happy? Lucidity
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67322328 Norway 01/25/2015 08:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Command center of Kiev military operations: [link to pp.vk.me (secure)] Quoting: KneelB4Zod! The National University of Defense of Ukraine must be a really shit school. Quoting: Kanadski Hope you noticed the guy on the right... Quoting: KneelB4Zod! Quite a resemblance I would say. Take Care Kent
Böze_Tante User ID: 67354954 Germany 01/25/2015 08:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 is there anything in russia worth supporting?!! are you a real dumbass fool(sounds like donbass nearly ))))?!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67338965 How about the rockets they make that send our American astronauts to the ISS? When will people wake up and realize Moscow is our ally in the fight against Islam. Think ahead 20-50 years. Who will out-number us? Who will want us all gone? It wont be the fuckin Russkies I'll put my bottom dollar on that. So if considering Russia and the Kremlin an ally against jihad, makes me a Putinslut. Fine with me. Quoting: BlueRidgeDoom The "spaintard" is Ukrainian as he told us some time ago. He will not accept any facts. In Germany live > 100,000 Ukrainians, so when you see that flag doesn't mean it's a German. The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is). No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms. It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people. That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
M1.618 User ID: 61275893 Canada 01/25/2015 08:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Command center of Kiev military operations: [link to pp.vk.me (secure)] Quoting: KneelB4Zod! Quoting: 911 67356592 The dog is probably the commanding officer. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3939038 I surprised they didn't render Napoleon in the lot... wmMmw
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67198463 United States 01/25/2015 08:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Who needed this shit in Ukraine? Our so called Western gamblers .?(financial oligarchs) who are used to gamble with other people money and lives.When game is up and asks for true commintment they are first to run away. Russia played this very smart and it did not use gambling but some sort of judo strategy and so called New Russians are gaining more respect with each passing day. What kind of characters have led this assault on Russian interests it is not suprise it became shameful defeat.Wth even Kissinger went against it, and that is quite telling. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61184324 It was all quite insane. Ultra rightwing forces in Washington and London wanting to punish Russia is what it all about. Russia and Ukraine are comrades and need to make up and be friends. Clean up the mess and be good to each other.
OTTO VON BISMARCK User ID: 67345840 Germany 01/25/2015 08:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Are you plain ignorant or just lying? 24% of Estonians today have russian roots, and they have been there as early as 1030, first russian orthodox church was built in 16th century, even the Estonian language has a lot of russian influence and russian words. The beginning of continuous Russian settlement in what is now Estonia dates back to the late 17th century. The second period of influx of Russians followed the Imperial Russian era, and the third was during rapid Industrialisation in the 19th century. BTW, Eastern Germans are mostly ethnic Poles.. and Germans west of the Rhine river are mostly ethnic French... So what? If you have to distinguish peoples by ancestry it only shows me what a low self esteem you have, and how much you don't understand the most basic idea of the EU. What a joke.. Quoting: OTTO VON BISMARCK As I've been telling from the very beginning - this person knows nothing and doesnt even want to know anything. Sad indeed. There is a version of legend about Rurick, legendary founder of first Russian dynasty, in which he originated from Prussia - not so far from forementioned Baltic states. And, according to somethng I've heard, Berlin was originally founded by Slavs. Not my subject though, so I can't prove or deny it. Actually, the whole "this is our historical land" is pretty much meaningless while Kurds and Basques still doesn't have their own statehood. Well, not even mentioning Indians etc. Quoting: Tamonten Yes absolutely correct, 1/3 of Germany was originally Slavic in respect of language and territory. City and town ames like Berlin, Chemnitz, Güstrow f.ex are reminders of this, also Family names and regular words have slavic origins. The early Slavic people were called Wenden, same ones as in Baltic states including now known Estonia. The entire region of Oder/Neiße is also known as "Germania Slavica". Another group are Sorben, who have beautifully preserved their cultural heritage. Berlin, my hometown, was indeed founded by Slavic tribes around the 7th century.. by "Havel und Spree Slawen". The word Prussia [Preussen] has it's origin from Baltics. Quoting: OTTO VON BISMARCK Well, that's it. I'm glad I was right. Also it's really hard to say where Germanized Slavs end and Slavized Germand begin. And not sure if it's really important. After all, Russians never had a real reason to be an enemy of German people. All the wives of Russian Emperors were of German origin (including Catherine the Great), German nobles of Baltics were subjects of Empire for many generations (and on highest positions of government - if with mixed results sometimes), during Seven Years' war Eastern Prussia even swore fealty to Russian crown (even if it didn't last long). Hell, current head of Gazprom have German family name! The hostility began only n 20th century with the help of our good old anglo-saxon "friends". And now there's no hostility on our side again. We separate Nazis from normal German people. As much as we separate Bandera followers and other scum from common citizens of f.Ukraine. Hence the new ethnic slur "ukrop" and usage of anecdotical "ukr" pseudoethnonim. We instinctively do not want to use old traditional "khokhol" slur for this beings in fear of tarnishing it. Quoting: Tamonten I agree, I am half German and an half Croat.. and I remember the War in Yugoslavia like it was yesterday. The same anglo-saxon strategy. Did you know that the first ever western induced color revolution we have seen rather often lately happened in Yugoslavia during Tito's presidency? It was called "the Croatian Spring", I kid you not. Back then Tito first wanted to crack down on it, but then chaged his tactics and made some concessions regarding "personal liberties". Back in those days the US was playing the right side of the devil's arse, Soviet Union was the left, and Yugoslavia ended up as the Arshole inbetween.. when NATO bombed us with depleted Uranium the western world congratulated themselves.. but of course, only after they watched the country get torn down for 5 years. I see myself as a political Atheist, not playing into the hegelian game of dumb and dumber, and I will never forget and I will never forgive. The secret of politics? Make a good treaty with Russia. -Otto von Bismarck
OTTO VON BISMARCK User ID: 67345840 Germany 01/25/2015 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 is there anything in russia worth supporting?!! are you a real dumbass fool(sounds like donbass nearly ))))?!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67338965 How about the rockets they make that send our American astronauts to the ISS? When will people wake up and realize Moscow is our ally in the fight against Islam. Think ahead 20-50 years. Who will out-number us? Who will want us all gone? It wont be the fuckin Russkies I'll put my bottom dollar on that. So if considering Russia and the Kremlin an ally against jihad, makes me a Putinslut. Fine with me. Quoting: BlueRidgeDoom The "spaintard" is Ukrainian as he told us some time ago. He will not accept any facts. In Germany live > 100,000 Ukrainians, so when you see that flag doesn't mean it's a German. Quoting: Böze_Tante Only 40.000 Ukrainians, and 3 Million Russians. The secret of politics? Make a good treaty with Russia. -Otto von Bismarck
Böze_Tante User ID: 67354954 Germany 01/25/2015 09:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... so, what can we learn about Mark Twain? A lot And what have you learnt about Putin from his jokes and vocabulary? A lot Do you know what a Pharisee is? Yes Now, shuffle your wits up your cheeks. Not possible, physical or otherwise Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67338965 Did that help you out? Take care Kent Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67322328 then you must be a russian then, for if you are not, then you lie a lot. On the other hand, if you are a russkij hij, then lying is the only thing you do. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67338965 No, I am Danish, live in Norway, I do not lie, and my real name is Kent. Besides that I have been banned from this forum far, far more times than you. Not for bad language, lying or being rude, but for some more serious stuff. Take Care Kent Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67322328 That serious stuff I'd like to know ... The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is). No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms. It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people. That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
PIR User ID: 54058774 United States 01/25/2015 09:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Russian lieutenant colonel from the Spetsnaz Interior Troops of Russian Federation in #Ukraine. [link to mobile.twitter.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52024198 Not in Ukraine. Near border of Ukraine but in Russia
PIR User ID: 54058774 United States 01/25/2015 09:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... You are a very sick and twisted Russian. Quoting: hIndsIght2020 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67358433 no use even posting that, he's apparently too stupid to understand, and might even chalk it up to "Russian propaganda" Quoting: RTS REDUX I'm with PIR and RTS on this one. After all, Porky said it first. Quoting: scene isle 66993006 Not only did he say it first they DID IT! This very thread has pics and film of dead children some in the arms of their dead mothers! All at the hands of the Ukrop troops at Porkys command! Last Edited by PIR on 01/25/2015 09:30 PM
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57307503 United States 01/25/2015 09:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 "Ukraine crisis: Obama threatens more Russia sanctions" (no link, pay wall) Will someone kindly inform the West that Putin eats their sanctions and shits gold.
Böze_Tante User ID: 67354954 Germany 01/25/2015 09:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 I see Kerry made a statement too on DoS. Wow. They all say it was evidently russia responsible. Beeing the agressor in this conflict russia wil have to pay a massive reparation bill to the "ukrainians" after this is over. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67343540 they will just write off ukies debt for gas and call it even ;) Quoting: Matjaz Nah we will take care this bill reaches far beyond what russia can handle. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67343540 Who's "we"? You and your granny? Be careful who will pay back "our" bill. The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is). No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms. It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people. That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
PIR User ID: 54058774 United States 01/25/2015 09:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 BREAKING: #UNSC emergency meeting will be held tomorrow on #Mariupol. Ukrainian Ambassador says: "different from all previous ones" Quoting: < DL > Translation: Ukraine knows they are about to lose the war. When Mariupol falls the next stop is Kiev. Full out siege of Kiev with artillery...mortars and GRAD until the Ukrainian parliament building is rubble.
Tamonten User ID: 34754802 Russia 01/25/2015 09:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... As I've been telling from the very beginning - this person knows nothing and doesnt even want to know anything. Sad indeed. There is a version of legend about Rurick, legendary founder of first Russian dynasty, in which he originated from Prussia - not so far from forementioned Baltic states. And, according to somethng I've heard, Berlin was originally founded by Slavs. Not my subject though, so I can't prove or deny it. Actually, the whole "this is our historical land" is pretty much meaningless while Kurds and Basques still doesn't have their own statehood. Well, not even mentioning Indians etc. Quoting: Tamonten Yes absolutely correct, 1/3 of Germany was originally Slavic in respect of language and territory. City and town ames like Berlin, Chemnitz, Güstrow f.ex are reminders of this, also Family names and regular words have slavic origins. The early Slavic people were called Wenden, same ones as in Baltic states including now known Estonia. The entire region of Oder/Neiße is also known as "Germania Slavica". Another group are Sorben, who have beautifully preserved their cultural heritage. Berlin, my hometown, was indeed founded by Slavic tribes around the 7th century.. by "Havel und Spree Slawen". The word Prussia [Preussen] has it's origin from Baltics. Quoting: OTTO VON BISMARCK Well, that's it. I'm glad I was right. Also it's really hard to say where Germanized Slavs end and Slavized Germand begin. And not sure if it's really important. After all, Russians never had a real reason to be an enemy of German people. All the wives of Russian Emperors were of German origin (including Catherine the Great), German nobles of Baltics were subjects of Empire for many generations (and on highest positions of government - if with mixed results sometimes), during Seven Years' war Eastern Prussia even swore fealty to Russian crown (even if it didn't last long). Hell, current head of Gazprom have German family name! The hostility began only n 20th century with the help of our good old anglo-saxon "friends". And now there's no hostility on our side again. We separate Nazis from normal German people. As much as we separate Bandera followers and other scum from common citizens of f.Ukraine. Hence the new ethnic slur "ukrop" and usage of anecdotical "ukr" pseudoethnonim. We instinctively do not want to use old traditional "khokhol" slur for this beings in fear of tarnishing it. Quoting: Tamonten I agree, I am half German and an half Croat.. and I remember the War in Yugoslavia like it was yesterday. The same anglo-saxon strategy. Did you know that the first ever western induced color revolution we have seen rather often lately happened in Yugoslavia during Tito's presidency? It was called "the Croatian Spring", I kid you not. Back then Tito first wanted to crack down on it, but then chaged his tactics and made some concessions regarding "personal liberties". Back in those days the US was playing the right side of the devil's arse, Soviet Union was the left, and Yugoslavia ended up as the Arshole inbetween.. when NATO bombed us with depleted Uranium the western world congratulated themselves.. but of course, only after they watched the country get torn down for 5 years. I see myself as a political Atheist, not playing into the hegelian game of dumb and dumber, and I will never forget and I will never forgive. Quoting: OTTO VON BISMARCK And then there was a Romanian revolution. And before that - British retreat from India that ensured that Pakistan would ever be the enemy of Deli. And many other examples. BTW, one of their signature moves are the "unknown snipers" that shoot the both sides of the emerged conflict. In Russia we actually believed in American goodwill in 90s. "Cold War has ended, we are all friends now, etc., etc..." Till 1999 and bombings of Belgrad. U-turn of PM Primakov's jet above Atlantics was quite literal gesture. You know, Margarita Simonyan, editor-in-chief of RT once told a story during one talk-show. In 1996 she participiated in student exchange program in Bristol. Later, in 2000s she visited her friend there. They asked - "Why are Russians turning a cold shoulder towards US? You were so friendly in 90s..." She answered - "Probably since Yugoslavia and bombings of Belgrad" "Bombings? Who did it?" "Your country did." "What? It is not possible!" "You have Internet, don't you? Let's do a search..." Her friend was shocked speechless. She did not even know anything about it - or just forgot already. "The essence of the question is not whether the Russia has a right to own the coast, but rather whether it is profitable to us. British interests are above the law and justice, because they are the law and justice" - Speech of MP T. Etwood in the House of Commons // Hansard’s Parliamentary Debates. Vol. 38. L., 1838. "Do not listen what Americans say. Do what they are doing" - Arabian proverb Last Edited by Tamonten on 01/25/2015 09:41 PM "When every one is dead the Great Game is finished. Not before." - Rudyard Kipling, "Kim" (1901) "But we are still alive." - Thread: "The Great Game" by Mikhail Leontyev (2007-2008) "Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination." - Brandon Sanderson, "The Way of Kings" "Russia is the great Christian country with rich Islamic history" - Vladimir Solovyov (Russian Jew) Quos Iupiter perdere vult, dementat. "Europe can wait while the Russian tsar fishes." - Alexander III The Peacemaker Thread: I'm Russian – ask me a question. Be it about Russia or a personal one. Thread: From Rus' to Russia - grand concert on the Red Square, June 12th 2015 - please help with translation! Remember that future is always proceeded by its shadows.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67198463 United States 01/25/2015 09:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Euromaidan ‏@InfoEuromaidan · 30m30 minutes ago Happy first anniversary of the standoff between police and rioters in the Maidan [link to ow.ly] Happy? Quoting: Kanadski happy lot of shit that maidan turned out to be lot of unnecessary destruction and hearbreak russian and ukraine are comrades and need to make up and be friends again
Böze_Tante User ID: 67354954 Germany 01/25/2015 09:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Only a true nazi can see something offensive in Jewish greeting. Shame on you. Quoting: KneelB4Zod! Something offensive? Not really. But connecting chosen ones and shalom to eachother is diffaning, provoacatve, stigmatizing and anti-semitic. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67343540 If you say so. Anyway, tell me something about your imagination of "the chosen ones". How is your delusion projected in your personal life? Quoting: KneelB4Zod! The chosen ones are those whom are illuminated and enlighted. They come from everywhere on the planet regardless of nation, religion, ethnicy. They are the ones fixing errors if they occur. Like the one happening right now in russia as we speak. They bear responsibility to the top vision of how the world should work. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67343540 So they are suffering from delusions of grandeur / megalomania. The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is). No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms. It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people. That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
PIR User ID: 54058774 United States 01/25/2015 09:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Apparently rebels managed to capture newest batch modernized T-64 (made originally for DR Congo): [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Those tanks was proudly announced as big support for Kiev forces. Deal with Congo was cancelled (Canada/US or so took reponsibility for delivery of armamament afaik). Here is video of announcement of delivering "Congo" tanks to Kiev NazGuard: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Story from militaryphotos... Quoting: KneelB4Zod! Zod I remember when this story broke you said you can't wait to see those tanks captured by the NAF and used against the Ukies!
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57307503 United States 01/25/2015 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 BREAKING: #UNSC emergency meeting will be held tomorrow on #Mariupol. Ukrainian Ambassador says: "different from all previous ones" Quoting: < DL > Translation: Ukraine knows they are about to lose the war. When Mariupol falls the next stop is Kiev. Full out siege of Kiev with artillery...mortars and GRAD until the Ukrainian parliament building is rubble. Quoting: PIR For all intent and purpose, Kyivians have already lost the war. Where and when was their last victory? Where and when was their last successful defense along any forward line? They have no air support. They have no logistical support. It is obvious the Kremlin intercepts ALL their comms. I really think Putin loyalists are still embedded in Ukraines military leadership. And the Ukie population refuses to acknowledge this war, and screams, "Putler" that is their contribution. They deserve to lose.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67198463 United States 01/25/2015 09:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 even after all this is over, russia will still end up giving ukraine a better deal than the EU and US did.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36429740 United States 01/25/2015 09:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Yes absolutely correct, 1/3 of Germany was originally Slavic in respect of language and territory. City and town ames like Berlin, Chemnitz, Güstrow f.ex are reminders of this, also Family names and regular words have slavic origins. The early Slavic people were called Wenden, same ones as in Baltic states including now known Estonia. The entire region of Oder/Neiße is also known as "Germania Slavica". Another group are Sorben, who have beautifully preserved their cultural heritage. Berlin, my hometown, was indeed founded by Slavic tribes around the 7th century.. by "Havel und Spree Slawen". The word Prussia [Preussen] has it's origin from Baltics. Quoting: OTTO VON BISMARCK Well, that's it. I'm glad I was right. Also it's really hard to say where Germanized Slavs end and Slavized Germand begin. And not sure if it's really important. After all, Russians never had a real reason to be an enemy of German people. All the wives of Russian Emperors were of German origin (including Catherine the Great), German nobles of Baltics were subjects of Empire for many generations (and on highest positions of government - if with mixed results sometimes), during Seven Years' war Eastern Prussia even swore fealty to Russian crown (even if it didn't last long). Hell, current head of Gazprom have German family name! The hostility began only n 20th century with the help of our good old anglo-saxon "friends". And now there's no hostility on our side again. We separate Nazis from normal German people. As much as we separate Bandera followers and other scum from common citizens of f.Ukraine. Hence the new ethnic slur "ukrop" and usage of anecdotical "ukr" pseudoethnonim. We instinctively do not want to use old traditional "khokhol" slur for this beings in fear of tarnishing it. Quoting: Tamonten I agree, I am half German and an half Croat.. and I remember the War in Yugoslavia like it was yesterday. The same anglo-saxon strategy. Did you know that the first ever western induced color revolution we have seen rather often lately happened in Yugoslavia during Tito's presidency? It was called "the Croatian Spring", I kid you not. Back then Tito first wanted to crack down on it, but then chaged his tactics and made some concessions regarding "personal liberties". Back in those days the US was playing the right side of the devil's arse, Soviet Union was the left, and Yugoslavia ended up as the Arshole inbetween.. when NATO bombed us with depleted Uranium the western world congratulated themselves.. but of course, only after they watched the country get torn down for 5 years. I see myself as a political Atheist, not playing into the hegelian game of dumb and dumber, and I will never forget and I will never forgive. Quoting: OTTO VON BISMARCK And then there was a Romanian revolution. And before that - British retreat from India that ensured that Pakistan would ever be the enemy of Deli. And many other examples. BTW, one of their signature moves are the "unknown snipers" that shoot the both sides of the emerged conflict. In Russia we actually believed in American goodwill in 90s. "Cold War has ended, we are all friends now, etc., etc..." Till 1999 and bombings of Belgrad. U-turn of PM Primakov's jet above Atlantics was quite literal gesture. You know, Margarita Simonyan, editor-in-chief of RT once told a story during one talk-show. In 1996 she participiated in student exchange program in Bristol. Later, in 2000s she visited her friend there. They asked - "Why are Russians turning a cold shoulder towards US? You were so friendly in 90s..." She answered - "Probably since Yugoslavia and bombings of Belgrad" "Bombings? Who did it?" "Your country did." "What? It is not possible!" "You have Internet, don't you? Let's do a search..." Her friend was shocked speechless. She did not even know anything about it - or just forgot already. "The essence of the question is not whether the Russia has a right to own the coast, but rather whether it is profitable to us. British interests are above the law and justice, because they are the law and justice" - Speech of MP T. Etwood in the House of Commons // Hansard’s Parliamentary Debates. Vol. 38. L., 1838. "Do not listen what Americans say. Do what they are doing" - Arabian proverb Quoting: Tamonten Yes and Russia has played it straight and honest all this time. Evil scumbag Americans. Always causing trouble. Maybe Putin should not have come over here and tell a school student that the U.S. state that interests him the most is Alaska. Maybe we never trusted Russia because of its corruption and underlying goals were always aligned against the West. Maybe Russia has been meddling too long in our backyard and it is time for some payback.
Böze_Tante User ID: 67354954 Germany 01/25/2015 09:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... You need meds mainly... Quoting: KneelB4Zod! A bipolar world would only slow down progress of human kind. We need a one world government. Russia had its chance to prove itself beeing worthy to become a part of this government. It fatally failed and put its own national egoistic needs above those of the world community represented by UN. It has brought this upon itself. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67343540 Still you need meds.... Quoting: KneelB4Zod! It is funny how people with simple minds tend to declare others insane just because they cant follow your thoughts. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67343540 Pls make an account that I can ignore you automatically. Tx. The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is). No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms. It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people. That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
PIR User ID: 54058774 United States 01/25/2015 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 even after all this is over, russia will still end up giving ukraine a better deal than the EU and US did. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67198463 :Putin Right:
Böze_Tante User ID: 67354954 Germany 01/25/2015 10:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 A question to all: why do we choose sides? If we stop choosing sides, there will be peace on Earth. Simple as that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4053466 Simple question deserves a simple answer: In this thread...Not choosing a side will get you called a Putinbot/slut/whore by Team America and friends. It's a damn shame. Quoting: BlueRidgeDoom Agree with the previous post, why do we keep playing the divide and conquer match for them? See the video I posted above? Lets just make fun of ALL of them, laugh, stop playing i.e. fighting for these idiots and do this Quoting: Bes Maat 1000fold The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is). No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms. It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people. That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
Tamonten User ID: 34754802 Russia 01/25/2015 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Well, that's it. I'm glad I was right. Also it's really hard to say where Germanized Slavs end and Slavized Germand begin. And not sure if it's really important. After all, Russians never had a real reason to be an enemy of German people. All the wives of Russian Emperors were of German origin (including Catherine the Great), German nobles of Baltics were subjects of Empire for many generations (and on highest positions of government - if with mixed results sometimes), during Seven Years' war Eastern Prussia even swore fealty to Russian crown (even if it didn't last long). Hell, current head of Gazprom have German family name! The hostility began only n 20th century with the help of our good old anglo-saxon "friends". And now there's no hostility on our side again. We separate Nazis from normal German people. As much as we separate Bandera followers and other scum from common citizens of f.Ukraine. Hence the new ethnic slur "ukrop" and usage of anecdotical "ukr" pseudoethnonim. We instinctively do not want to use old traditional "khokhol" slur for this beings in fear of tarnishing it. Quoting: Tamonten I agree, I am half German and an half Croat.. and I remember the War in Yugoslavia like it was yesterday. The same anglo-saxon strategy. Did you know that the first ever western induced color revolution we have seen rather often lately happened in Yugoslavia during Tito's presidency? It was called "the Croatian Spring", I kid you not. Back then Tito first wanted to crack down on it, but then chaged his tactics and made some concessions regarding "personal liberties". Back in those days the US was playing the right side of the devil's arse, Soviet Union was the left, and Yugoslavia ended up as the Arshole inbetween.. when NATO bombed us with depleted Uranium the western world congratulated themselves.. but of course, only after they watched the country get torn down for 5 years. I see myself as a political Atheist, not playing into the hegelian game of dumb and dumber, and I will never forget and I will never forgive. Quoting: OTTO VON BISMARCK And then there was a Romanian revolution. And before that - British retreat from India that ensured that Pakistan would ever be the enemy of Deli. And many other examples. BTW, one of their signature moves are the "unknown snipers" that shoot the both sides of the emerged conflict. In Russia we actually believed in American goodwill in 90s. "Cold War has ended, we are all friends now, etc., etc..." Till 1999 and bombings of Belgrad. U-turn of PM Primakov's jet above Atlantics was quite literal gesture. You know, Margarita Simonyan, editor-in-chief of RT once told a story during one talk-show. In 1996 she participiated in student exchange program in Bristol. Later, in 2000s she visited her friend there. They asked - "Why are Russians turning a cold shoulder towards US? You were so friendly in 90s..." She answered - "Probably since Yugoslavia and bombings of Belgrad" "Bombings? Who did it?" "Your country did." "What? It is not possible!" "You have Internet, don't you? Let's do a search..." Her friend was shocked speechless. She did not even know anything about it - or just forgot already. "The essence of the question is not whether the Russia has a right to own the coast, but rather whether it is profitable to us. British interests are above the law and justice, because they are the law and justice" - Speech of MP T. Etwood in the House of Commons // Hansard’s Parliamentary Debates. Vol. 38. L., 1838. "Do not listen what Americans say. Do what they are doing" - Arabian proverb Quoting: Tamonten Yes and Russia has played it straight and honest all this time. Evil scumbag Americans. Always causing trouble. Maybe Putin should not have come over here and tell a school student that the U.S. state that interests him the most is Alaska. Maybe we never trusted Russia because of its corruption and underlying goals were always aligned against the West. Maybe Russia has been meddling too long in our backyard and it is time for some payback. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36429740 Maybe. Except that Alaska is useless to Russia at this point of time. Much less useless that when it was given away, but still. California is another matter though... (In case you lack a sense of humour which your statement suggest, it was a joke. Just like Putin's words, if they were really said) Corruption is internal thing, which is our own problem. Underlying goals... what underlying goals? Please elaborate. And "backyard"... Do you mean Cuba in 60s? Were there other conflicts between SU and US that were even relatively close to US border? Or Afganistan, Vietnam and Korea are "American backyard"? What else, Crimea too maybe? And do you even realize that you accurately described US involvement in f.Ukraine? Expressed interest to the land that we consider a part of our homeland, underlying goals to weaken Russia, meddling in our (unmistkable) backyard... Nice one here! Last Edited by Tamonten on 01/25/2015 10:27 PM "When every one is dead the Great Game is finished. Not before." - Rudyard Kipling, "Kim" (1901) "But we are still alive." - Thread: "The Great Game" by Mikhail Leontyev (2007-2008) "Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination." - Brandon Sanderson, "The Way of Kings" "Russia is the great Christian country with rich Islamic history" - Vladimir Solovyov (Russian Jew) Quos Iupiter perdere vult, dementat. "Europe can wait while the Russian tsar fishes." - Alexander III The Peacemaker Thread: I'm Russian – ask me a question. Be it about Russia or a personal one. Thread: From Rus' to Russia - grand concert on the Red Square, June 12th 2015 - please help with translation! Remember that future is always proceeded by its shadows.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66728333 United States 01/25/2015 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 DPR PM Alexandr Zakharchenko talks to mother of the captive UAF 'cyborg' [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Quoting: KneelB4Zod! Phew, that was hard to watch. I wasn't sure if the church bells were real at first, am I watching a movie? Zakharchenko is legit.
OTTO VON BISMARCK User ID: 67380883 Germany 01/25/2015 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Well, that's it. I'm glad I was right. Also it's really hard to say where Germanized Slavs end and Slavized Germand begin. And not sure if it's really important. After all, Russians never had a real reason to be an enemy of German people. All the wives of Russian Emperors were of German origin (including Catherine the Great), German nobles of Baltics were subjects of Empire for many generations (and on highest positions of government - if with mixed results sometimes), during Seven Years' war Eastern Prussia even swore fealty to Russian crown (even if it didn't last long). Hell, current head of Gazprom have German family name! The hostility began only n 20th century with the help of our good old anglo-saxon "friends". And now there's no hostility on our side again. We separate Nazis from normal German people. As much as we separate Bandera followers and other scum from common citizens of f.Ukraine. Hence the new ethnic slur "ukrop" and usage of anecdotical "ukr" pseudoethnonim. We instinctively do not want to use old traditional "khokhol" slur for this beings in fear of tarnishing it. Quoting: Tamonten I agree, I am half German and an half Croat.. and I remember the War in Yugoslavia like it was yesterday. The same anglo-saxon strategy. Did you know that the first ever western induced color revolution we have seen rather often lately happened in Yugoslavia during Tito's presidency? It was called "the Croatian Spring", I kid you not. Back then Tito first wanted to crack down on it, but then chaged his tactics and made some concessions regarding "personal liberties". Back in those days the US was playing the right side of the devil's arse, Soviet Union was the left, and Yugoslavia ended up as the Arshole inbetween.. when NATO bombed us with depleted Uranium the western world congratulated themselves.. but of course, only after they watched the country get torn down for 5 years. I see myself as a political Atheist, not playing into the hegelian game of dumb and dumber, and I will never forget and I will never forgive. Quoting: OTTO VON BISMARCK And then there was a Romanian revolution. And before that - British retreat from India that ensured that Pakistan would ever be the enemy of Deli. And many other examples. BTW, one of their signature moves are the "unknown snipers" that shoot the both sides of the emerged conflict. In Russia we actually believed in American goodwill in 90s. "Cold War has ended, we are all friends now, etc., etc..." Till 1999 and bombings of Belgrad. U-turn of PM Primakov's jet above Atlantics was quite literal gesture. You know, Margarita Simonyan, editor-in-chief of RT once told a story during one talk-show. In 1996 she participiated in student exchange program in Bristol. Later, in 2000s she visited her friend there. They asked - "Why are Russians turning a cold shoulder towards US? You were so friendly in 90s..." She answered - "Probably since Yugoslavia and bombings of Belgrad" "Bombings? Who did it?" "Your country did." "What? It is not possible!" "You have Internet, don't you? Let's do a search..." Her friend was shocked speechless. She did not even know anything about it - or just forgot already. "The essence of the question is not whether the Russia has a right to own the coast, but rather whether it is profitable to us. British interests are above the law and justice, because they are the law and justice" - Speech of MP T. Etwood in the House of Commons // Hansard’s Parliamentary Debates. Vol. 38. L., 1838. "Do not listen what Americans say. Do what they are doing" - Arabian proverb Quoting: Tamonten Yes and Russia has played it straight and honest all this time. Evil scumbag Americans. Always causing trouble. Maybe Putin should not have come over here and tell a school student that the U.S. state that interests him the most is Alaska. Maybe we never trusted Russia because of its corruption and underlying goals were always aligned against the West. Maybe Russia has been meddling too long in our backyard and it is time for some payback. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36429740 @Tamonten UK is surely been playing "their great game" since 1813 and the US is like their big clumsey "lot'sa muscle & no brains" cousin. [link to en.wikipedia.org] The secret of politics? Make a good treaty with Russia. -Otto von Bismarck
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