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Reports from Slavyansk say that the army troops sent to the eastern Ukrainian city for an “anti-terrorist operation” are leaving en masse. Some troops are openly voicing support for the eastern Ukrainians, while others are speaking out against a war.

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I just don't understand... Isn't it a smaller percentage that is pro-russian? Don't these people understand Russia's involvement in this whole ordeal? Are people too scared to speak up? What are your thoughts?
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I asked the questions days ago of % on who's supporting who. But how can we know without fair elections.
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Russian Market&#8207;@russian_market·2 mins
Hearing reports that Yanukovich may return to Donetsk on April 20. #Boom.
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BMD near Kramatorsk in Donetsk region smashed a civilian car.


Look at the BMD driver's face, way different from your typical ukrainian soldier. Also much older than 20 y.o. A mercenary?
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04/16 19:14 Medvedev suggests looking into motives for restrictions in water supplies of Crimea from Ukraine
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Reports from Slavyansk say that the army troops sent to the eastern Ukrainian city for an “anti-terrorist operation” are leaving en masse. Some troops are openly voicing support for the eastern Ukrainians, while others are speaking out against a war.

[link to rt.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56913131


I just don't understand... Isn't it a smaller percentage that is pro-russian? Don't these people understand Russia's involvement in this whole ordeal? Are people too scared to speak up? What are your thoughts?
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They're just not buying the divisive western SPIN on the events happening in their country and they have a strong avirsion to Nazis.
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It will be a very bad joke if Yanukovich comes back to Ukraine and says that he's still the acting President of Ukraine.
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BMD near Kramatorsk in Donetsk region smashed a civilian car.


Look at the BMD driver's face, way different from your typical ukrainian soldier. Also much older than 20 y.o. A mercenary?
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Wow! hiding
My opinions are just that. My opinions! Don't like them? Tough!
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MOSCOW, April 14 (RIA Novosti), Daria Chernyshova – Civil war in Ukraine is unlikely as Kiev’s junta is quickly losing support, according to Jon Hellevig, co-author of the book “Putin’s New Russia."
“I don't think there will be any civil war,” Hellevig, a managing partner at the Moscow-based Awara Group, told RIA Novosti.
“The Russian people of eastern and southern parts of present-day Ukraine will take over their local governments soon, without large-scale conflict,” said Hellevig, a longtime observer of Russia's development.

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It will be a very bad joke if Yanukovich comes back to Ukraine and says that he's still the acting President of Ukraine.
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It wouldn't be that surprising though.
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this is what happens when we no information from the ground the thread becomes a load of crap
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I gave family in Russia
Most there are being brainwashed by putin propaganda which is thick and in usa run by rt
Putin planned this whole thing
Obama is working with them as any cabal president would be ordered to do
People in crimea have seen prices increase and now want out
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maybe, but for sure they are not Ukrainian. In time of war u wave the enemy countries flag, unreal.
 Quoting: The Nihilist


maybe they're aliens?

wow canadian dumbos are out in force today. "for sure they are not ukrainian" lol. do some research and you might find out how many ETHNIC RUSSIANS live in eastern ukraine with ukrainian passports. their enemy is not russia, their enemy is the coup government in kyiv.
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okay, so they are Russians, not Ukrainians. Im from that part of the world, more so then you Italy. Oh, and your country is really good at war......lol....

Who did u beat last, Ethiopia. Lol.
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they are ukrainians according to their passports and they live in ukraine. have you ever heard of ethnic minorities living in a country?

i am not in or from italy. are you new to glp? try again...
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We in Croatia heard about those minorities. We even had their "People's Republic" declared on our territory. We also sorted that shit out legally and lawfully. It was stormy weather for a while.
I think you are from Russia and I wonder what your reaction would be if some minority declares "People's Republic" in Russian Federation? Someone like Chechens, for an example?
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this is what happens when we no information from the ground the thread becomes a load of crap
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Gonna be relatively calm because of the high level meeting about to take place. After that it's anyone's guess.
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Luhansk pro-Russian militia makes security deal with police -Interfax
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Reports from Slavyansk say that the army troops sent to the eastern Ukrainian city for an “anti-terrorist operation” are leaving en masse. Some troops are openly voicing support for the eastern Ukrainians, while others are speaking out against a war.

[link to rt.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56913131


I just don't understand... Isn't it a smaller percentage that is pro-russian? Don't these people understand Russia's involvement in this whole ordeal? Are people too scared to speak up? What are your thoughts?
 Quoting: < DL >


I asked the questions days ago of % on who's supporting who. But how can we know without fair elections.
 Quoting: missanthropic55


It is probably a smaller percentage that is pro-Russian across the country, but the East is much more pro-Russian. There are different grades of being pro-Russian, there are self-identified Russians, there are Russian-speaking Ukrainians, there are Surzhik-speaking Ukrainians, and finally Ukrainian-speaking Ukrainians, also they might be opposed to annexation to Russia, but for independent or autonomous East Ukraine, or for Ukraine's alliance with Russia. If you would like to have some figures, look at the language spoken at home and any more or less recent election results, for example [link to voprosik.net] and here the elections: [link to donetsk.kiev.ua] 2010 ppresidnetial Yanukovich vs Timoshenko, [link to www.segodnya.ua] 2012 Party of Regions vs Batkivshina vs Svoboda
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I gave family in Russia
Most there are being brainwashed by putin propaganda which is thick and in usa run by rt
Putin planned this whole thing
Obama is working with them as any cabal president would be ordered to do
People in crimea have seen prices increase and now want out
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26414109


What you gave your family?

Try to give them TV with only two programs on it - FOX and CNN

So they can take a fresh brain shower sheeplebah clinton no
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UPDATE: Tomorrow 10:00 CET, emergency #OSCE meet re #Russia troop buildup near #Ukraine after Canada & Estonia invoke Chap. 3 of Vienna Doc.
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MaidanOnline&#8207;@MaidanOnline14m
Ukraine’s parliament has begun a closed session with the heads of security agencies
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CNN Breaking News &#8207;@cnnbrk 9 min

Russian media: Moldova's separatist region Transnistria asks Russia to recognize it as sovereign state.
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Russian media: Moldova's separatist region Transnistria asks Russia to recognize it as sovereign state. [link to cnn.it]
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CNN Breaking News &#8207;@cnnbrk 9 min

Russian media: Moldova's separatist region Transnistria asks Russia to recognize it as sovereign state.

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So it continues.
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UPDATE: Tomorrow 10:00 CET, emergency #OSCE meet re #Russia troop buildup near #Ukraine after Canada & Estonia invoke Chap. 3 of Vienna Doc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56915151



Ch III reads in pertinent part:


III. Risk Reduction: mechanism for consultation and cooperation, through notifications and meetings, regarding unusual military activities.

[link to www.state.gov]

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Looking at a bigger picture and outside the box. Consider a consistency that has been recurring since events in syria after chemical attack.
People don't want war anymore.
During syria crisis, everyone said no. The whole world, including america and uk said no to war. Only tptb leaders wanted war, but it didn't happen because people said no.
Exact same situation going on here. We have tptb who are doing everything to start a war. Sending troops to kill their own people. Yet the troops are refusing and saying no. People are saying no.
It is very clear to me that energies of the world has changed since 2012. The power of force and killings is weakening and tptb are losing power very fast.
The new energies entering our souls and awakening us prompt us to demand a different way of life. No one will be allowed to push the button. Tptb are fading and rats are leaving the ship.
I would say that 2016 elections in America may have a surprise result. One that no one would expect. He or she will not be among tptb. America and the world demand a change and their demands will be met by a true new leader.
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CNN Breaking News &#8207;@cnnbrk 9 min

Russian media: Moldova's separatist region Transnistria asks Russia to recognize it as sovereign state.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56915151


So it continues.
 Quoting: < DL >


DL - you get the feeling Putin is going to stop anytime soon? Not me. Not until someone is serious and shows they are willing to pull the trigger against Russian forces. He will keep going IMO until someone stops him (talking about stopping him isn't going to do it)
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CNN Breaking News &#8207;@cnnbrk 9 min

Russian media: Moldova's separatist region Transnistria asks Russia to recognize it as sovereign state.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56915151


So it continues.
 Quoting: < DL >


DL - you get the feeling Putin is going to stop anytime soon? Not me. Not until someone is serious and shows they are willing to pull the trigger against Russian forces. He will keep going IMO until someone stops him (talking about stopping him isn't going to do it)
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he's not going to stop until someone bloodies his nose a bit..until then..he has no incentive to stop
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Reports from Slavyansk say that the army troops sent to the eastern Ukrainian city for an “anti-terrorist operation” are leaving en masse. Some troops are openly voicing support for the eastern Ukrainians, while others are speaking out against a war.

[link to rt.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56913131


I just don't understand... Isn't it a smaller percentage that is pro-russian? Don't these people understand Russia's involvement in this whole ordeal? Are people too scared to speak up? What are your thoughts?
 Quoting: < DL >


I asked the questions days ago of % on who's supporting who. But how can we know without fair elections.
 Quoting: missanthropic55


It is probably a smaller percentage that is pro-Russian across the country, but the East is much more pro-Russian. There are different grades of being pro-Russian, there are self-identified Russians, there are Russian-speaking Ukrainians, there are Surzhik-speaking Ukrainians, and finally Ukrainian-speaking Ukrainians, also they might be opposed to annexation to Russia, but for independent or autonomous East Ukraine, or for Ukraine's alliance with Russia. If you would like to have some figures, look at the language spoken at home and any more or less recent election results, for example [link to voprosik.net] and here the elections: [link to donetsk.kiev.ua] 2010 ppresidnetial Yanukovich vs Timoshenko, [link to www.segodnya.ua] 2012 Party of Regions vs Batkivshina vs Svoboda
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Yep, ill have a look. Thanks for that:)
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hillary
Looking at a bigger picture and outside the box. Consider a consistency that has been recurring since events in syria after chemical attack.
People don't want war anymore.
During syria crisis, everyone said no. The whole world, including america and uk said no to war. Only tptb leaders wanted war, but it didn't happen because people said no.
Exact same situation going on here. We have tptb who are doing everything to start a war. Sending troops to kill their own people. Yet the troops are refusing and saying no. People are saying no.
It is very clear to me that energies of the world has changed since 2012. The power of force and killings is weakening and tptb are losing power very fast.
The new energies entering our souls and awakening us prompt us to demand a different way of life. No one will be allowed to push the button. Tptb are fading and rats are leaving the ship.
I would say that 2016 elections in America may have a surprise result. One that no one would expect. He or she will not be among tptb. America and the world demand a change and their demands will be met by a true new leader.
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Occupy Wall Street should have declared a 'Peoples Republic'!

Instead of the BS they did.
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What are the chances that suddenly the leaders of self imposed government abandon their seats and run away to europe or usa?
Given the situation, it is very likely. Or else they might end up being executed like the leader of right sector.
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hillary
Looking at a bigger picture and outside the box. Consider a consistency that has been recurring since events in syria after chemical attack.
People don't want war anymore.
During syria crisis, everyone said no. The whole world, including america and uk said no to war. Only tptb leaders wanted war, but it didn't happen because people said no.
Exact same situation going on here. We have tptb who are doing everything to start a war. Sending troops to kill their own people. Yet the troops are refusing and saying no. People are saying no.
It is very clear to me that energies of the world has changed since 2012. The power of force and killings is weakening and tptb are losing power very fast.
The new energies entering our souls and awakening us prompt us to demand a different way of life. No one will be allowed to push the button. Tptb are fading and rats are leaving the ship.
I would say that 2016 elections in America may have a surprise result. One that no one would expect. He or she will not be among tptb. America and the world demand a change and their demands will be met by a true new leader.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29543891

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