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The interview happened 30 years ago in 1984, and the KGB invented "perception management operations."

I suggest you watch the entire interview when you find the time.
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Thanks. I will watch it. 1984 is cold war but "invented" is fairly strong. Remember the original MK-Ultra research goes back a long way. A lot has happened in parallel. Now I think it is nonsense to consider the current Russia a huge player, at least for western audiences.

The only reason Ukraine has become a problem for the west is that they have gone to the well once too often with the same formula. Maidan is a bridge too far and people don't want a new contrived cold war. I think the planners were shocked at how stale and transparent a portion of western audiences saw it to be. In the current context, the "Russian shill" charge is just another weapon in the information warfare. I am sure both sides are evaluating its effect as a weapon. Really a lot like "conspiracy theory" in terms of its purpose.
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I don't think Russia has had any influence in that regard since they disbanded communism. The sixties hippies who are now in charge became disillusioned and joined the right in a different sort of collectivist philosophy.

Nazism.

When Putin disallowed homosexual propaganda,the schism was complete.
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I would disagree.....The communist have been in the United States since the early 1900's. They used the 60's Vietnam era to turn the country on their ears, however, the names in China and Russia have not changed only the way they have gone about conducting business. They adopted policies to give the people economic power, i.e. money but still have kept the faces in charge the same.
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The interview happened 30 years ago in 1984, and the KGB invented "perception management operations."

I suggest you watch the entire interview when you find the time.
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


Soviet Subversion of the Free World Press, 1984 - Complete


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Thanks. I will watch it. 1984 is cold war but "invented" is fairly strong. Remember the original MK-Ultra research goes back a long way. A lot has happened in parallel. Now I think it is nonsense to consider the current Russia a huge player, at least for western audiences.

The only reason Ukraine has become a problem for the west is that they have gone to the well once too often with the same formula. Maidan is a bridge too far and people don't want a new contrived cold war. I think the planners were shocked at how stale and transparent a portion of western audiences saw it to be. In the current context, the "Russian shill" charge is just another weapon in the information warfare. I am sure both sides are evaluating its effect as a weapon. Really a lot like "conspiracy theory" in terms of its purpose.
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I don't think Russia has had any influence in that regard since they disbanded communism. The sixties hippies who are now in charge became disillusioned and joined the right in a different sort of collectivist philosophy.

Nazism.

When Putin disallowed homosexual propaganda,the schism was complete.
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Not sure I agree. I watched the video and a lot of what he described matched what the CIA itself was doing. Who do you think our President's father had minding him when he came from Kenya to the US?

It wasn't the Russians who created the hippies or that whole 1960's counterculture that he described as demoralization either. For that you have to look a lot closer to home and check out the connections of the key players who happened to be there at the inception. You may know some but the big picture points to the people who won the cold war, not those who lost it in the USSR. I already mentioned MK-Ultra. There is a lot more. Nothing he said changed my viewpoint.

I liked the guy but he knew only a piece. He also probably did what agents do the world over. Failed to tell the whole truth. As he said, he had nowhere else to defect.
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Oh my you can see tracers & RPG hits as they attack the town perimeter from hills #Luhansk #Ukraine [link to m.youtube.com] …

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Fighting reported in southern #Lugansk between self-defense forces and Right Sector, National Guard [link to on.rt.com]

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Oh my you can see tracers & RPG hits as they attack the town perimeter from hills #Luhansk #Ukraine [link to m.youtube.com] …

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Fighting reported in southern #Lugansk between self-defense forces and Right Sector, National Guard [link to on.rt.com]

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So Donetsk right now is at a standstill. They have diverted their attention to Luhansk after taking the airport there. Perhaps this campaign is designed to spread the separatist forces too thin to hold all of the cities?
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I don't think Russia has had any influence in that regard since they disbanded communism. The sixties hippies who are now in charge became disillusioned and joined the right in a different sort of collectivist philosophy.

Nazism.

When Putin disallowed homosexual propaganda,the schism was complete.


I would disagree.....The communist have been in the United States since the early 1900's. They used the 60's Vietnam era to turn the country on their ears, however, the names in China and Russia have not changed only the way they have gone about conducting business. They adopted policies to give the people economic power, i.e. money but still have kept the faces in charge the same.


The freakn' communists have been here since before the founding of the country. If you wish a good, concise scholarly read on the roots of modern revolution, read Fire in the Mind of Men by James H. Billington

By 1900, the revolutionaries had long captured both Western fiance and the government and planning in earnest a one world government of finance. However in order to do so, they had to establish a world wide system of Central Banks while destroying the monarchy, church and family.

That's why the bankers have twin hammers, the power of fiance or purse from the top and the power of revolution from the bottom. You can see the same exact play book in every banker revolution, coup and color revolution. And can easily see this in the current Euro Maiden event.

On the other hand, sometimes there is authentic rebellion against the system and an attempt to create an alternative system. That's what's happening now with Putin, China and the Brics. Another very good researcher is Joseph P Farrel. You'd be amazed when Farrel shows that the same essential banking game has been going on since Babylon.
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The freakn' communists have been here since before the founding of the country. If you wish a good, concise scholarly read on the roots of modern revolution, read Fire in the Mind of Men by James H. Billington

By 1900, the revolutionaries had long captured both Western fiance and the government and planning in earnest a one world government of finance. However in order to do so, they had to establish a world wide system of Central Banks
while destroying the monarchy, church and family.

That's why the bankers have twin hammers, the power of fiance or purse from the top and the power of revolution from the bottom. You can see the same exact play book in every banker revolution, coup and color revolution. And can easily see this in the current Euro Maiden event.

On the other hand, sometimes there is authentic rebellion against the system and an attempt to create an alternative system. That's what's happening now with Putin, China and the Brics. Another very good researcher is Joseph P Farrel. You'd be amazed when Farrel shows that the same essential banking game has been going on since Babylon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58377451


"banker" is too simplistic.

you need to look at who is pulling their strings, as well as all the socialists they've supported in the past (Hitler etc.) Their main goal is getting rid of free-market capitalism, and replacing it with statist socialism which consolidates their power and wealth.

[link to www.thebabylonmatrix.com]

"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions." --Adolf Hitler

(Speech of May 1, 1927. Quoted by Toland, 1976, p. 306)
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The freakn' communists have been here since before the founding of the country. If you wish a good, concise scholarly read on the roots of modern revolution, read Fire in the Mind of Men by James H. Billington

By 1900, the revolutionaries had long captured both Western fiance and the government and planning in earnest a one world government of finance. However in order to do so, they had to establish a world wide system of Central Banks
while destroying the monarchy, church and family.

That's why the bankers have twin hammers, the power of fiance or purse from the top and the power of revolution from the bottom. You can see the same exact play book in every banker revolution, coup and color revolution. And can easily see this in the current Euro Maiden event.

On the other hand, sometimes there is authentic rebellion against the system and an attempt to create an alternative system. That's what's happening now with Putin, China and the Brics. Another very good researcher is Joseph P Farrel. You'd be amazed when Farrel shows that the same essential banking game has been going on since Babylon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58377451


"banker" is too simplistic.

Not simplistic. Rather generic.

you need to look at who is pulling their strings, as well as all the socialists they've supported in the past (Hitler etc.) Their main goal is getting rid of free-market capitalism, and replacing it with statist socialism which consolidates their power and wealth.

When you peel back the layers of the onion, the battle is spiritual and the battle is for consciousness.


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#NOVOROSSIYA All is stable on the Eastern Front. UKR destroyed a school and a kindergarten in #Slavyansk. Militia progressing in #Luhansk. +

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#NOVOROSSIYA On outskirts of #Luhansk, NAF militia storming a border post. Another diversionary tactic? [link to vz.ru] … via @vzglyad

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In this video, you can see the rebels shooting with #Ukraine forces in #Lugansk #луганск #savedonbaspeople [link to www.youtube.com] …
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#NOVOROSSIYA All is stable on the Eastern Front. UKR destroyed a school and a kindergarten in #Slavyansk. Militia progressing in #Luhansk. +

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#NOVOROSSIYA On outskirts of #Luhansk, NAF militia storming a border post. Another diversionary tactic? [link to vz.ru] … via @vzglyad

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In this video, you can see the rebels shooting with #Ukraine forces in #Lugansk #луганск #savedonbaspeople [link to www.youtube.com] …
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Holy sht. That's urban warfare. Imagine if your camera is mistaken for a gun and you get picekd off by a sniper.
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400 heavily armed Russian fighters are attacking a Ukrainian border crossing in #Luhansk #Ukraine where there are only ~70 border guards

Holly crap this is invasion of volunteers!

5a5a5aahhhahhhahhh

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#BREAKINGNEWS The Ukrainian air force attacks Russian invasion convoys between the border and #Luhansk city.
Su-25 and Su-27 involved.

siren2siren2siren2

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“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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400 heavily armed Russian fighters are attacking a Ukrainian border crossing in #Luhansk #Ukraine where there are only ~70 border guards

Holly crap this is invasion of volunteers!

5a5a5aahhhahhhahhh
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What does "heavily armed" mean? Say compared to an American SWAT team.
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Ukraine Reporter ‏@StateOfUkraine 19 min.
400 heavily armed Russian fighters are attacking a Ukrainian border crossing in #Luhansk #Ukraine where there are only ~70 border guards

Holly crap this is invasion of volunteers!

5a5a5aahhhahhhahhh
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What does "heavily armed" mean? Say compared to an American SWAT team.
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Armored vehicles, mortars, heavy machine guns, RPGs, anti tank and anti air weapons.
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#BREAKINGNEWS The Ukrainian air force attacks Russian invasion convoys between the border and #Luhansk city.
Su-25 and Su-27 involved.

siren2siren2siren2
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Air support is standard now, isn't it?
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Ukraine Reporter ‏@StateOfUkraine 19 min.
400 heavily armed Russian fighters are attacking a Ukrainian border crossing in #Luhansk #Ukraine where there are only ~70 border guards

Holly crap this is invasion of volunteers!

5a5a5aahhhahhhahhh
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What does "heavily armed" mean? Say compared to an American SWAT team.
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Armored vehicles, mortars, heavy machine guns, RPGs, anti tank and anti air weapons.
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Are the anti air weapons effective against SU 25's and 27's? I guess we'll know soon.
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The freakn' communists have been here since before the founding of the country. If you wish a good, concise scholarly read on the roots of modern revolution, read Fire in the Mind of Men by James H. Billington

By 1900, the revolutionaries had long captured both Western fiance and the government and planning in earnest a one world government of finance. However in order to do so, they had to establish a world wide system of Central Banks
while destroying the monarchy, church and family.

That's why the bankers have twin hammers, the power of fiance or purse from the top and the power of revolution from the bottom. You can see the same exact play book in every banker revolution, coup and color revolution. And can easily see this in the current Euro Maiden event.

On the other hand, sometimes there is authentic rebellion against the system and an attempt to create an alternative system. That's what's happening now with Putin, China and the Brics. Another very good researcher is Joseph P Farrel. You'd be amazed when Farrel shows that the same essential banking game has been going on since Babylon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58377451


"banker" is too simplistic.

Not simplistic. Rather generic.

you need to look at who is pulling their strings, as well as all the socialists they've supported in the past (Hitler etc.) Their main goal is getting rid of free-market capitalism, and replacing it with statist socialism which consolidates their power and wealth.

When you peel back the layers of the onion, the battle is spiritual and the battle is for consciousness.


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58377451


the world wide system of central banks was est. in 1930 in Basel, Switzerland.

[link to www.thebabylonmatrix.com]

it's not generic, but a nazi specific system

their spiritual aims are Luciferian aka Sodom and Gomorrah 2
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#BREAKINGNEWS The Ukrainian air force attacks Russian invasion convoys between the border and #Luhansk city.
Su-25 and Su-27 involved.

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Air support is standard now, isn't it?
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On Ukrainian/Russian border it could blow up whole if Ukrainian jet hits anything on Russian side of the border...
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
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"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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#BREAKINGNEWS The Ukrainian air force attacks Russian invasion convoys between the border and #Luhansk city.
Su-25 and Su-27 involved.

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Air support is standard now, isn't it?
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On Ukrainian/Russian border it could blow up whole if Ukrainian jet hits anything on Russian side of the border...
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I would think that just flying over Russian territory without permission would be a problem.
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