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Anonymous Coward User ID: 10426410 United States 07/20/2014 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Business Insider @businessinsider · 22 seg This Is What Kremlin Panic Looks Like — by @TheWarRoom_Tom [link to read.bi] Hey Louis, Putin was just sneezing. And you call it panic. |
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User ID: 59967356 Germany 07/20/2014 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60489190 no, they didn't the whole world knows about their inoperative buk, except you Oh so this is the BUK they were bragging about in their tweets and VK posts? Guess so. They are not trained and probably where happy to have gotten some potential big boom machine which must have been a big loss for Kiev.... I don't think they cared if operational or not, main thing was they got something from Ukrainian forces Well I don't think it's strange to assume there are army trained people among the anti-Kiev rebels. Earlier in the war a lot of Ukrainians defected to the East. So I think there will also be a number of people among them who know how to operate an SA-11. Oh, there are trained people with them, but I don't think the majority has any army background "He who people call a fool is not a fool, but he who takes flattery for Truth, is." |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 54766230 United States 07/20/2014 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ConflictReporter @MiddleEast_BRK · 43 seg #BreakingRUMOR The Dutch government considers "strikes" in Russian invaders in #Ukraine. Just for the sake of argument, what would that even accomplish? Open intervention on behalf of one of the belligerents has no real relationship to the crash scene and the investigation. You would think these rumors would have at least some minimal plausibility. I guess the idea is to have a punitive strike before the actual results of the investigation. Who wouldn't rely on US weasel worded statements about what happened? Makes sense to me. |
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User ID: 48179530 07/20/2014 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60489190 no, they didn't the whole world knows about their inoperative buk, except you Oh so this is the BUK they were bragging about in their tweets and VK posts? Guess so. They are not trained and probably where happy to have gotten some potential big boom machine which must have been a big loss for Kiev.... I don't think they cared if operational or not, main thing was they got something from Ukrainian forces Well I don't think it's strange to assume there are army trained people among the anti-Kiev rebels. Earlier in the war a lot of Ukrainians defected to the East. So I think there will also be a number of people among them who know how to operate an SA-11. Yes, but even Ukraine's Prosecutor said it was inoperable, just a day after the crash. I don't know whether these things need a special code or anything to launch them, or maybe they just didn't have the radar part of the system which it needs to hit its target? All we have is that the Russian's say they detected a radar signature from a Buk system at the same time as the shootdown. As they built the things maybe they can tell a bit more about which particular system it was, from that signal? Nothing seems to be adding up for the Western narrative here. If it turns out to be a false flag then how are they going to spin it for the dumbed down masses? Kill a pop star and let Eastern Ukraine go? ''Know what I learned from Rocky?'' said Jake LaMotta, a boyhood friend and reform-school mate of Graziano's. ''I learned you should be nice to people. He was a master at that. I had become bitter in later years from the way some people treated me, and I became like a recluse, a loner. I'd watch Rocky, and people was always comin' over to say hello. I learned that the good people overcome the bad.'' |
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User ID: 59967356 Germany 07/20/2014 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 The Europeans are terrified. They'll shout, but they won't piss off Russia until they have an ace-in-the-hole and a Republican president in the Oval Office. Sound about right. Tricky situation. Dunno why the Brits are so eager. All to do for Merkel now is trying to stall. She must be under immense political pressure "He who people call a fool is not a fool, but he who takes flattery for Truth, is." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10426410 United States 07/20/2014 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Surkov say, that western know that plane was shot down by Ukraine, but not recognise this never, so it is suicide for himself would be: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60485602 [link to sovpl.forum24.ru] Text in Russian. All military experts specializing on shooting planes on high altitude know this. In order to shoot down at least one Malaysian Boeing, militias would need an armada of at least ten machines, and in the video under Snezny we see two settings of JMA. To shoot down the target of enemy on a distance more than ten kilometers away you will need only exceptionally regular army, with its named above amount of equipment and weapons! It is undeniable proof that self defense forces were simply framed by hoping on incompetence of investigators. Um………. Let me get this right……. The Russians designed an anti aircraft system where you need 10 vehicles on hand at all times just to shoot down a single plane? They were either the most incompetent weapons designers in the history of mankind, or the BS is getting so deep that a person can’t see straight anymore. If that is the quality of Russian weapons, then we should invade Russia NOW! It will be easier than Iraq. BUKM-1 is called a complex with minimum 4 vehicles for effective functioning, it contains 1 vehicle with command, 1 target detection station, 1 self propelled fire station, 1 pre-loading installation. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47834147 United States 07/20/2014 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Guess so. They are not trained and probably where happy to have gotten some potential big boom machine which must have been a big loss for Kiev.... I don't think they cared if operational or not, main thing was they got something from Ukrainian forces Well I don't think it's strange to assume there are army trained people among the anti-Kiev rebels. Earlier in the war a lot of Ukrainians defected to the East. So I think there will also be a number of people among them who know how to operate an SA-11. Oh, there are trained people with them, but I don't think the majority has any army background So they just let anyone of the street come in and train to use the SA-11? Just let normal citizens come in and learn how to fully operate a system to shoot down airplanes at 30,000 feet. Um………… O….K……….. Now that’s believable propaganda………….NOT!!!!!!! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 60473457 Croatia 07/20/2014 01:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 The Europeans are terrified. They'll shout, but they won't piss off Russia until they have an ace-in-the-hole and a Republican president in the Oval Office. Real REAL Republican would never ever go into the war with RUSSIA! [link to upload.wikimedia.org] Only pussies who listen to orders from their masters would love to and the usually do create chaos and wars! |
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User ID: 59967356 Germany 07/20/2014 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: °Lucy° Guess so. They are not trained and probably where happy to have gotten some potential big boom machine which must have been a big loss for Kiev.... I don't think they cared if operational or not, main thing was they got something from Ukrainian forces Well I don't think it's strange to assume there are army trained people among the anti-Kiev rebels. Earlier in the war a lot of Ukrainians defected to the East. So I think there will also be a number of people among them who know how to operate an SA-11. Oh, there are trained people with them, but I don't think the majority has any army background So they just let anyone of the street come in and train to use the SA-11? Just let normal citizens come in and learn how to fully operate a system to shoot down airplanes at 30,000 feet. Um………… O….K……….. Now that’s believable propaganda………….NOT!!!!!!! Well if they happen to get one left behind by ukrainian forces... it was not operational. And Kiev must have known that it was not operational and nothing to worry to much about, otherwise it would/should have hit the press and resulted in closing the airspace "He who people call a fool is not a fool, but he who takes flattery for Truth, is." |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 60473457 Croatia 07/20/2014 01:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 How many of you noticed out of all this chaos that People’s Republic of Donetsk is the fact and no one is going to change it! Junta is loosing another part of land, and that's their price that had to pay, perhaps not enough, because they caused so much destruction and deaths, including all these victims in the plane! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 60479782 Portugal 07/20/2014 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 How many of you noticed out of all this chaos Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60473457 that People’s Republic of Donetsk is the fact and no one is going to change it! Junta is loosing another part of land, and that's their price that had to pay, perhaps not enough, because they caused so much destruction and deaths, including all these victims in the plane! it's not a fact yet... Crimea is, but not E. Ukr. |