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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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Japan considering establishing GSDF camps on Nansei Islands and deploying team to handle attacks on remote islands.
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WOW!

It's zig-zagging with speed 0 and sinks higher and higher to 10,000 meters.
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Finally a short note. Lately several times a day heavy dark gray helicopters fly Over Frankfurt. They look different than police or ambulance service, are slightly larger and also sound different. Earlier that happened only once every few weeks.

Sometimes they fly across the city, sometimes - like today - they circle a long time over a given area.

Since I've heard at night the Galaxies on their way to the East in 2003 (we have here ban on night flights), I pay attention to such unusual things.
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yes, listen to the sky at night or during the day!
What the hell are they transporting
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Is it the same?
RSD137
Rossiya - Special Flight Squadron
shows now as
RFF9006
Russia Air Force
or is it another one?
And normally Military flights are not shown.
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Yes, it is the same one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58240952


Starts as Special Flight Squadron, now it's Air Force, will it end as missile?


cool2
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Now again Special Flight Squadron, heading South-West but swinging back and forth in this direction???

That's too crazy. I go to sleep, it's 0:40 here, hope I don't dream of backward flying planes.
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Yes, it is the same one.
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Starts as Special Flight Squadron, now it's Air Force, will it end as missile?


cool2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58252645


Now again Special Flight Squadron, heading South-West but swinging back and forth in this direction???

That's too crazy. I go to sleep, it's 0:40 here, hope I don't dream of backward flying planes.
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Good night
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Prediction: within 60 days after the election, the illegal Russian occupation of Crimea will end, and Ukraine will regain its rightful full control over it.
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Now it is idiots who refer to academics and their research? Really? Before you were the one that said that the only academics questioned the Holodomor deliberate starvation story were Russian. Which is it? You brought the subject up which is the only reason I posted in the first place. Your quote has rolled off but sorry, I can't let that one pass.

As for bought and paid for research, you know that it is most easily paid for through consulting contracts from western MIC supported think tanks. When someone in academia questions the official line most easily rewarded why are THEY the ones being paid? From a conspiracy perspective it works the other way actually. Same reason you originally suggested that Russian academic research might be dubious in credibility. I agree and for the same reason. That is why the nail that sticks out is worth noticing.
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Previous poster had a good point re. GLP. I believe others originally brought the subject up. The only reason (other than commies in Russia) that there are bought and paid for academics that question the deliberate starvation (which you nicely put in inverted commas - thanks), enforced by the NKVD remember, is because when and if it ever becomes widely publicised in the English speaking world, it will undermine that other Holocaust in terms of impact at least, possibly more so when people see that the crime was committed primarily by that very same ethnicity against another, and on a larger scale.

Armenians have the same problem.

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@mfa_russia 28s
Russia appeals for an immediate end to use of force in southeast Ukraine
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Or else what? Putin's bluff was called.
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What would make you think the Ukraine is the only theater of contention or even the most important one? Putin can easily keep the present Ukrainian government in a protracted civil war while keeping his army available for the Middle East. NATO faces the same problem of over committing to an apparent Russian threat then unable to quickly move forces to new trouble spots.

Stick around. If you want a war you'll get one. It just won't be an walk in the park, go back to pizza,beer and TV war.
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Intel is concluded today that the number of dead terrorists in Slavyansk is between 500 and 800. It is roughly half of their force. They have been very demoralized by this fact, per direct intercept of communications.

I was shocked when I heard those numbers. Many have been killed by snipers.

Also, even more firepower including tanks and many more men is now being moved into the area to clean it out before the elections.

More night vision and all sorts of equipment has been sent into the area, many of which is donated by other countries, or bought by people here and given to them. It has been an enormous response on this front. supplies, food, clothing, equipment, etc has been brought to the troops in the east

We are going to win this.
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Nice made up news, If what you are saying is true that Ukraine nazi forces killed so many terrorists and not woman & children. Pravy Sektor and the ganks would put it on breaking news because they'll be proud of it. 1dunno1
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Intel is concluded today that the number of dead terrorists in Slavyansk is between 500 and 800. It is roughly half of their force. They have been very demoralized by this fact, per direct intercept of communications.

I was shocked when I heard those numbers. Many have been killed by snipers.

Also, even more firepower including tanks and many more men is now being moved into the area to clean it out before the elections.

More night vision and all sorts of equipment has been sent into the area, many of which is donated by other countries, or bought by people here and given to them. It has been an enormous response on this front. supplies, food, clothing, equipment, etc has been brought to the troops in the east

We are going to win this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58199073


Nice made up news, If what you are saying is true that Ukraine nazi forces killed so many terrorists and not woman & children. Pravy Sektor and the ganks would put it on breaking news because they'll be proud of it. 1dunno1
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How is it made up?
Eat the Reds
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@streetwiseprof 32m
Putin's purported withdrawal is likely the result of necessity rather than choice. Conscripts are rotating out of/into deployed units
“This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.” General Wesley Clark
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Prediction: within 60 days after the election, the illegal Russian occupation of Crimea will end, and Ukraine will regain its rightful full control over it.
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The Palestinians have been predicting the same thing. Maybe that is the basis of a peace plan. Russia gives up Crimea and in exchange Israel goes back to its original 1948 borders and destroys all its nuclear weapons?

What do you think? Sounds like a winning plan.
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Intel is concluded today that the number of dead terrorists in Slavyansk is between 500 and 800. It is roughly half of their force. They have been very demoralized by this fact, per direct intercept of communications.

I was shocked when I heard those numbers. Many have been killed by snipers.

Also, even more firepower including tanks and many more men is now being moved into the area to clean it out before the elections.

More night vision and all sorts of equipment has been sent into the area, many of which is donated by other countries, or bought by people here and given to them. It has been an enormous response on this front. supplies, food, clothing, equipment, etc has been brought to the troops in the east

We are going to win this.
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Nice made up news, If what you are saying is true that Ukraine nazi forces killed so many terrorists and not woman & children. Pravy Sektor and the ganks would put it on breaking news because they'll be proud of it. 1dunno1
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How is it made up?
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If you are smart, you can see it by yourself mate.
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pictures of things the people have donated for the army-

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Thai army chief declared martial law after anti-government protesters allegedly declared intent to stage a coup - Fairfax Media
“This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.” General Wesley Clark
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Intel is concluded today that the number of dead terrorists in Slavyansk is between 500 and 800. It is roughly half of their force. They have been very demoralized by this fact, per direct intercept of communications.

I was shocked when I heard those numbers. Many have been killed by snipers.

Also, even more firepower including tanks and many more men is now being moved into the area to clean it out before the elections.

More night vision and all sorts of equipment has been sent into the area, many of which is donated by other countries, or bought by people here and given to them. It has been an enormous response on this front. supplies, food, clothing, equipment, etc has been brought to the troops in the east

We are going to win this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58199073


Nice made up news, If what you are saying is true that Ukraine nazi forces killed so many terrorists and not woman & children. Pravy Sektor and the ganks would put it on breaking news because they'll be proud of it. 1dunno1
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You might have missed it, but this recent news I posted supports what he said:


Tymchuk: KAMAZ vehicles, which previously crossed the border, came to take bodies of terrorists out from Sloviansk - May 19, 2014

During the anti-terrorist operation there were 20 killed and 60 wounded among Ukrainian forces, the losses of the terrorists are hundreds, that’s why they are trying to negotiate with businesses to create “private armies”. The Head of the Center for Military-Political Studies Dmitry Tymchuk said during his briefing, reports UNN


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It looks like what the Ukrainian said several pages back about 5-800 dead in Sloviansk might actually be true.
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other articles about it -

[link to inforesist.org]

[link to www.ukrinform.ua]

"Sloviansk's morgue is full of corpses of the killed terrorists. Currently, many militants are buried just in forest plantations near the town. Among them there are many Chechens (Kadyrov's fighters) and Ossetians," the report says.

Many terrorists were killed by State Guard Department (UDO) snipers for the last two weeks.

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Thai army chief declared martial law after anti-government protesters allegedly declared intent to stage a coup - Fairfax Media
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Wrong Thread lol, shouldn't have two GLP tabs open
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Putin's purported withdrawal is likely the result of necessity rather than choice. Conscripts are rotating out of/into deployed units
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An important part of the Art of War is keeping your enemy guessing what you are going to do.
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Intel is concluded today that the number of dead terrorists in Slavyansk is between 500 and 800. It is roughly half of their force. They have been very demoralized by this fact, per direct intercept of communications.

I was shocked when I heard those numbers. Many have been killed by snipers.

Also, even more firepower including tanks and many more men is now being moved into the area to clean it out before the elections.

More night vision and all sorts of equipment has been sent into the area, many of which is donated by other countries, or bought by people here and given to them. It has been an enormous response on this front. supplies, food, clothing, equipment, etc has been brought to the troops in the east

We are going to win this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58199073


Nice made up news, If what you are saying is true that Ukraine nazi forces killed so many terrorists and not woman & children. Pravy Sektor and the ganks would put it on breaking news because they'll be proud of it. 1dunno1
 Quoting: Star Fhisp


How is it made up?
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If you are smart, you can see it by yourself mate.
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Well it seems to me in this proxy war waged by special forces, the pro-Russian side would have a distinct advantage if for no other reason the pro-Russian supply lines are shorter. If there was that many legitimate causalities then the Ukranian gov would be running the place. Until its running the place then all this news is highly suspect.
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Nice made up news, If what you are saying is true that Ukraine nazi forces killed so many terrorists and not woman & children. Pravy Sektor and the ganks would put it on breaking news because they'll be proud of it. 1dunno1
 Quoting: Star Fhisp


How is it made up?
 Quoting: Tpotleoz


If you are smart, you can see it by yourself mate.
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Well it seems to me in this proxy war waged by special forces, the pro-Russian side would have a distinct advantage if for no other reason the pro-Russian supply lines are shorter. If there was that many legitimate causalities then the Ukranian gov would be running the place. Until its running the place then all this news is highly suspect.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58212379


There are no rebel supply lines to Sloviansk. They are surrounded and nothing of theirs is getting in or out. Also, they cannot get to the Ukr militaries' supply lines around Sloviansk either. There has been only one attack like that so far and it killed 2 or 3 Ukrainian military. But the forces in Sloviansk are well-contained in Sloviansk and it sounds like being picked off.
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Ukraine Reporter @StateOfUkraine 47 mins
Tymchuk: morgue in #Sloviansk #Ukraine does not have enough room for large # of dead separatist fighters. Separatists trying to hide bodies.
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Just the opposite - report from "separatists" pledged that parents and relatives of right sector call their loved ones and if not answered come pick the bodies.

Over 500 unclaimed bodies that locals do not recognize lay in the forests of Kramatorsk and some are already beginning to decompose.
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Maybe we can find out something here.

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Prediction: within 60 days after the election, the illegal Russian occupation of Crimea will end, and Ukraine will regain its rightful full control over it.
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Prediction: Within 2 weeks of being elected the new leader of Ukraine will get Archduked.

(I mean it could happen)

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@streetwiseprof 32m
Putin's purported withdrawal is likely the result of necessity rather than choice. Conscripts are rotating out of/into deployed units
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Yep. Russia rotates troops April - June.
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Prediction: within 60 days after the election, the illegal Russian occupation of Crimea will end, and Ukraine will regain its rightful full control over it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58142790


The Palestinians have been predicting the same thing. Maybe that is the basis of a peace plan. Russia gives up Crimea and in exchange Israel goes back to its original 1948 borders and destroys all its nuclear weapons?

What do you think? Sounds like a winning plan.

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Sounds feasible to me. Maybe after that Harry Potter can be made "world peace envoy" for the UN and Britain will leave Gibralatar and the Falklands whilst the USA pulls out of Gitmo Bay.

Only then can Miley Cyrus ride into the sunset on a lurid pink unicorn.
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derp, derp...rangers are dominating in montreal!
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Published on May 19, 2014
Russian President Vladimir Putin arrived in Shanghai early this morning. This is Putin's first official visit to China since Chinese President Xi Jinping took office last year.

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@zerohedge: Cities of Slavyansk and Kramatorsk in east Ukraine under artillery shelling
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@StateOfUkraine: Early morning in #Sloviansk and #Kramatorsk #Ukraine and intense artillery/mortar fire has resumed.
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The CIA can always find NAZI and JIHADI when they need killing done...

They can never find them when they kill Americans.

See how that works?

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Yes, it is the same one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58240952


Starts as Special Flight Squadron, now it's Air Force, will it end as missile?


cool2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58252645


Now again Special Flight Squadron, heading South-West but swinging back and forth in this direction???

That's too crazy. I go to sleep, it's 0:40 here, hope I don't dream of backward flying planes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58240952


It's probably the aid from Russia to Serbia for the flood victims, they said they would fly aid there.





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