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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56420574 Ukraine 05/27/2014 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Citizen of EU @wavetossed 8m Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56420574 There is a report that #Russia has moved an Iskander rocket complex. This could be used to destroy ground assets like army base or airbase The shill is strong in this one. Iskander is near Ballistic. If launched even Washington can detect it. hardly something Russia could hide if used. Who said anything about intending to hide it once used? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58538717 Slovenia 05/27/2014 09:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Ukraine Reporter‏@StateOfUkraine·4 mins Quoting: < DL > Alert from #Ukraine border in #Lugansk region: ~ 50 vehicles with equipped armed men are heading from #Russia to Rovenki border checkpoint Somebody should tape these border crossings. Interaction between border guards and volenteers must be hilarious. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58543333 Germany 05/27/2014 09:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Curves over curves and then directly over Donetsk? [link to www.flightradar24.com] |
Newshunter
User ID: 22884594 United States 05/27/2014 09:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 2m Bulk of deployed Russian force still remains near Ukraine border, NATO military officer says - @Reeuuters 3m Russian military activity near Ukraine border may suggest slow withdrawal of forces, NATO military officer says - @Reeuuters Last Edited by Newshunter on 05/27/2014 09:50 AM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 58546638 Hong Kong 05/27/2014 09:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Ukr Soldiers suspect Ukrainian General Homchaka in treason and sabotage ATO Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58546638 [link to hvylya.org] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6019394 Netherlands 05/27/2014 09:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58543333 I noticed that to. Also activity German ramstein airbase!! And the baltic states. Practice they say. Russian fighter planes also very active. Reports of iskander misseles at the border and movement of russian vehicles to the border. It looks like something big is going on! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58538717 Slovenia 05/27/2014 09:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 @ itass_en 4m Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54607470 Shooting breaks out near #Donetsk airport, fighter planes fly over [link to en.itar-tass.com] I thought Kiev said they already secured the airport. All that killing and no clay gained. this! The pro-Kiev shills were out in full force earlier claiming that they had scored a massive victory yesterday and that the airport was in their control. Judging from available reports, most of the dead pro-Russians were in a convoy with wounded soldiers retreating to a medical facility - and the airport itself never really changed hands even though there is intense fighting. This is still far from over and with the re-inforcements pouring in to the pro-Russia camp I am quite sure the Ukies will have to eat up their latest target of finishing the ATO by weeks end. Perhaps this is why they are dropping leaflets all over town instructing people to find shelters - since they've decided to go all in and use heavy artillery and MLRS on built up areas. Will be interesting to see if they choose this course of action and what Putins response would be. I really could not observe the last 24 hours. So, dont know in detail what went down. The anger and sadness was a bit much. Thanks for the recap. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57703222 Cyprus 05/27/2014 10:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Øystein Bogen @oysteinbogen · 2h Quoting: Newshunter 4 Mig-29s w full weapon loads prepared for Take-off #dnipropetrovsk #Ukraine now pic.twitter.com/rJP28UzHwa Those are air-to-air missiles on that MIG. I bet they going to play the role of those "Russians" near Lithuanian airspace and open fire at a NATO plane during the exercise. We have some useful idiots of our own taking part in that exercise. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4159766 United States 05/27/2014 10:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Øystein Bogen @oysteinbogen · 2h Quoting: Newshunter 4 Mig-29s w full weapon loads prepared for Take-off #dnipropetrovsk #Ukraine now pic.twitter.com/rJP28UzHwa Those are air-to-air missiles on that MIG. I bet they going to play the role of those "Russians" near Lithuanian airspace and open fire at a NATO plane during the exercise. We have some useful idiots of our own taking part in that exercise. that would be cool... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6019394 Netherlands 05/27/2014 10:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 NATO says bulk of Russian troops still near #Ukraine border despite promises of pull back. [link to inagist.com] |
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User ID: 11619293 United States 05/27/2014 10:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Russia and Israel agreed to install a direct encrypted line to facilitate communications between Putin and Netanyahu. [link to en.ria.ru] … |
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User ID: 54195088 Canada 05/27/2014 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58307179 How much of a ratcheting up of rhetoric is this from Russia? I am not getting the sense that this is much more than would be predictable from the ATO continuing after the election. Janey, do you or your sources sense any sort of dramatic shift in tone from Russia? what I was told is that Russia had been given back channel info that the ATO would be scaled down after the elections and that reconciliation would be the new priority. It seems Russias feel betrayed that the ATO has been scaled up instead. I guess the only thing that surprises me is that Russia has placed that amount of faith in back channel assurances. I still am not getting the sense that Russia has started to lose patience and stopped talking. However, every betrayal of this sort makes diplomacy less viable and war more likely. Russia may feel that the infiltration option will be adequate in Ukraine for now but this confrontation is bigger than that and these "miscommunications" can come with a large price down the line. Problem is it seems that Russia is largely unprepared for anything. If instead it was the USA at their shoes they would even have special tech disguised as civilian stuff designed to take whole tank battalions out and blame all the damage on something irrelevant like tanks parked near a gas line. But thats USA for you and this is why they are winning in this World although they are past the point they became bankrupt. Never underestimate a smart mind. Russia is steps ahead in their thinking...don't take what is happening as being unprepared, it looks to me like they want to take the high road. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4159766 United States 05/27/2014 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Janey what I was told is that Russia had been given back channel info that the ATO would be scaled down after the elections and that reconciliation would be the new priority. It seems Russias feel betrayed that the ATO has been scaled up instead. I guess the only thing that surprises me is that Russia has placed that amount of faith in back channel assurances. I still am not getting the sense that Russia has started to lose patience and stopped talking. However, every betrayal of this sort makes diplomacy less viable and war more likely. Russia may feel that the infiltration option will be adequate in Ukraine for now but this confrontation is bigger than that and these "miscommunications" can come with a large price down the line. Problem is it seems that Russia is largely unprepared for anything. If instead it was the USA at their shoes they would even have special tech disguised as civilian stuff designed to take whole tank battalions out and blame all the damage on something irrelevant like tanks parked near a gas line. But thats USA for you and this is why they are winning in this World although they are past the point they became bankrupt. Never underestimate a smart mind. Russia is steps ahead in their thinking...don't take what is happening as being unprepared, it looks to me like they want to take the high road. Or appear to be taking the high road! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39860637 Romania 05/27/2014 10:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 RT @RT_com · 10 seg Quoting: Luisport '#Poroshenko puppet president, #Ukraine control system in total chaos' These Russians are so idiots that they are inviting comentators that openly say that there's a competition at the leadership of Ukraine, that the elected president has no power, so their "nazi" and "fascists" mantras are being destroyed by themselves! Both nazi and fascists had one strong leader (Hitler, Mussolini) and one ruling party which is not the case in Ukraine, but is the case in Putin's Russia! |
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Iskander User ID: 3910366 Sweden 05/27/2014 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Øystein Bogen @oysteinbogen · 2h Quoting: Newshunter 4 Mig-29s w full weapon loads prepared for Take-off #dnipropetrovsk #Ukraine now pic.twitter.com/rJP28UzHwa Those are air-to-air missiles on that MIG. I bet they going to play the role of those "Russians" near Lithuanian airspace and open fire at a NATO plane during the exercise. We have some useful idiots of our own taking part in that exercise. Hmm, didn't think of that, interesting theory. Somehow, I doubt they would pull a false flag of that sort since it would be like that saying "if a tree falls in the forest and nobody is around to hear it, does it make a noise?" These days in order to really convince people it must be on video so you can repeat it ad infinitum on CNN/BBC/etc and make people beleive it with their own eyes. Kinda like 9/11 - worked like a charm! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58307179 United States 05/27/2014 10:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Janey what I was told is that Russia had been given back channel info that the ATO would be scaled down after the elections and that reconciliation would be the new priority. It seems Russias feel betrayed that the ATO has been scaled up instead. I guess the only thing that surprises me is that Russia has placed that amount of faith in back channel assurances. I still am not getting the sense that Russia has started to lose patience and stopped talking. However, every betrayal of this sort makes diplomacy less viable and war more likely. Russia may feel that the infiltration option will be adequate in Ukraine for now but this confrontation is bigger than that and these "miscommunications" can come with a large price down the line. Problem is it seems that Russia is largely unprepared for anything. If instead it was the USA at their shoes they would even have special tech disguised as civilian stuff designed to take whole tank battalions out and blame all the damage on something irrelevant like tanks parked near a gas line. But thats USA for you and this is why they are winning in this World although they are past the point they became bankrupt. Never underestimate a smart mind. Russia is steps ahead in their thinking...don't take what is happening as being unprepared, it looks to me like they want to take the high road. Difficult to say what Russia was or was not prepared for. In diplomacy, especially private diplomacy, unwritten rules are very important. We don't know the source of the backchannel assurances Russia received but if it was the US, even indirectly, that could be very destabilizing. Once both sides start lying to each other in private large surprises are possible. There has been a sense that things have been under control behind the scenes. Not sure that is the case now, regardless of the situation on the ground in Ukraine. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54607470 Luxembourg 05/27/2014 10:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 RT @RT_com · 10 seg Quoting: Luisport '#Poroshenko puppet president, #Ukraine control system in total chaos' These Russians are so idiots that they are inviting comentators that openly say that there's a competition at the leadership of Ukraine, that the elected president has no power, so their "nazi" and "fascists" mantras are being destroyed by themselves! Both nazi and fascists had one strong leader (Hitler, Mussolini) and one ruling party which is not the case in Ukraine, but is the case in Putin's Russia! If it wasn't for Putin the doors for the NWO would be wide open, capisce? |
Newshunter
User ID: 22884594 United States 05/27/2014 10:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Ukrainian Updates‏@Ukroblogger·59m #Donetsk: 8 nationals of #Russia (incl #Chechnya) among 43 wounded, mayor says; at least 40 KIA yest [link to www.pravda.com.ua] … #Ukraine #ATO |
Iskander User ID: 3910366 Sweden 05/27/2014 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 yeah I don't know wtf is wrong with the common sense of these commanders and generals. When you don't have air superiority you don't stack in trucks and form convoys. I too thought "what the hell were they thinking?!" when I read what happened, but in all honesty, what would you do if you had 20+ wounded guys that needed to get to hospital ASAP? You'd get a truck or whatever and move those guys to safety as soon as you could, even if you risked getting bombed from the air. What really fucked them up though wasn't any aircraft or helicopter but a well prepared ambush in an area where they didn't expect enemies: sniper shot driver in the head, convoy stops and then they opened up with MG's and RPG's - total carnage. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57703222 Cyprus 05/27/2014 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Øystein Bogen @oysteinbogen · 2h Quoting: Newshunter 4 Mig-29s w full weapon loads prepared for Take-off #dnipropetrovsk #Ukraine now pic.twitter.com/rJP28UzHwa Those are air-to-air missiles on that MIG. I bet they going to play the role of those "Russians" near Lithuanian airspace and open fire at a NATO plane during the exercise. We have some useful idiots of our own taking part in that exercise. First link is a Google search in Greek scanning for news about an alleged 1st April fools day news post about a false "HOT" incident over the Baltic's where 1 Russian air patrol shot down 2 Eurofighters belonging to Germany. Second link is about the same news piece being scanned through blogs and not normal news sites. [link to www.google.gr (secure)] [link to www.palo.gr] This is the original url of the site that made out this story. This site belongs to a guy that lives in Bulgaria or at least posts a Bulgarian address. A Greek Defense site with a Bulgarian owner? It seems that this guy in reality is Jewish has indeed bought that site for 50.000 euros, uses it as a front for something and has served in the IDF in Israel in the Army Mechanics division and holds some posts as an "to English translations: in Bulgaria. Yesterday same page had an article that HAF Hellenic Air Force is supposedly canceling their participation in the Baltic's exercise which I believe is false. I think they are going with the formal NATO schedule. Overall strange coincidences. Just a heads up for whatever is worth. STRANGE COINCIDENCE, [link to www.defencenet.gr] |
abraka_dabraka
User ID: 12460156 Czechia 05/27/2014 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Russian insurgents caught immeadeately after crossing RUS-UKR border. Some escaped, some wounded and captured, cars full of weapons and ammunition. [link to www.youtube.com] Title: Ukraina, Lugansk. Engaged the enemy with Russian terrorists who broke into the Ukraine. info: That night in the Luhansk region partially terrorists broke into the territory of Ukraine from Russia . According to the press service of the State Border Service of Ukraine , confronted militants outfit of Border Service " Biryukove " Lugansk detachment. Was spotted around 3:30 column consisting of several trucks, cars and vans , which moved from Russia. 3.40 In the column crossed the state border , where she met a fire border detail . " A fight broke out . Violators leaving group cover partially erupted in Ukraine in the direction of Anthracite . Hostilities border damaged and captured one vehicle and two cars , one gunman seriously wounded. Detainees cars were filled with Kalashnikovs , RPGs and explosives. |
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