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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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Putin is now expected to start increased armed insurgency and terrorism in other oblasts outside of Luhansk and Donetsk. 'Oblasts' are like a province or state for the westerners.

Next will likely be Zaporizia, Kherson, Dnipropetrovsk, and Kharkiv, nikolayev, and Odessa Oblasts, and probably in that order.

If you want to know more about Ukraine's oblasts, wikipedia article:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

and a map of them:

[link to www.kyivpost.com]
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The map is helpful and the path you suggest would move from the Russian border and link up with Crimea first. That makes a lot of sense. It will be interesting if, as you suggest, the new areas are less fertile grounds for popular support. It will also be interesting to see how the Ukraine military is deployed in response.
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America Has Switched Sides: Now Backs Al Qaeda and Nazis

[link to www.washingtonsblog.com]

(snip) The U.S. is backing neo-Nazis in Ukraine (and see this).

These savages have already committed mass murder in broad daylight … on camera while being filmed.

The leader of the “protests” in February 2014 which ousted the president of Ukraine (Andriy Parubiy) is a neo Nazi and follower of a prominent WWII Ukrainian Nazi.

He’s now the head of national security in Ukraine. In that role, he has organized neo-Nazi brigades to murder Russian-speaking Ukrainians en masse.

As former Associated Press and Newsweek reporter Robert Parry writes:

As resistance to Kiev’s right-wing regime expanded in the ethnic Russian east and south, the coup regime found itself unable to count on regular Ukrainian troops to fire on civilians. Thus, its national security chief Andriy Parubiy, himself a neo-Nazi, turned to the intensely motivated neo-Nazi shock troops who had been battle-tested during the coup.

These extremists were reorganized as special units of the National Guard and dispatched to the east and south to do the dirty work that the regular Ukrainian military was unwilling to do. Many of these extreme Ukrainian nationalists lionize World War II Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera and – like Bandera – dream of a racially pure Ukraine, free of Jews, ethnic Russians and other “inferior” beings. The slur of calling the Odessa protesters Colorado beetles — as they were being burned alive — was a reference to the black-and-red colors used by the ethnic Russian resistance in the east.

Though the mainstream U.S. press either describes Parubiy simply as the interim government’s chief of national security (with no further context) or possibly as a “nationalist,” his fuller background includes his founding of the Social-National Party of Ukraine in 1991, blending radical Ukrainian nationalism with neo-Nazi symbols. Last year, he became commandant of the Maidan’s “self-defense forces.”

Then, on April 15, after becoming the Kiev regime’s chief of national security and finding Ukrainian troops unwilling to fire on fellow Ukrainians in the east, Parubiy went on Twitter to announce, “Reserve unit of National Guard formed #Maidan Self-defense volunteers was sent to the front line this morning.”

Those National Guard forces also were reported on the ground in Odessa when the trade unions building was torched on May 2 and they showed up again in Mariupol as the police station was burned on May 9, according to a report in the New York Times on Saturday.

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Chechnian Militants in Syria Moved to Georgia in Preparation for War on Russia

[link to english.farsnews.com]
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Jeez, I want to watch this on CNN. Especially when they will show Chechnya, Syria, Georgia and finally Russia on the map. It could be interesting to know their success rate. According to CNN latest news is easto of Ukraine somewhere in Pakistan..
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That's easy.

Chechnya = Czechia,
Syria = Slovenia,
Georgia = USA
Russia = Ruanda

peace
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Slovenia is to small to be seen on the map, so no...ROFL
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do you guys realize that Luhansk and Donetsk regions are 7 million ppl...that's 20% of Ukraine's population that's gone.
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This morning will be interesting.. How Ukrainian Junta will react? Do you think they'll leave both cities completely?
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No they wont. They cant afford it. Donbass region is the richest in UA with mines and most of the industry, military included is in Donbass. Thats why they said this morning they are ready to fight for both regions.
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America Has Switched Sides: Now Backs Al Qaeda and Nazis

[link to www.washingtonsblog.com]

(snip) The U.S. is backing neo-Nazis in Ukraine (and see this).

These savages have already committed mass murder in broad daylight … on camera while being filmed.

The leader of the “protests” in February 2014 which ousted the president of Ukraine (Andriy Parubiy) is a neo Nazi and follower of a prominent WWII Ukrainian Nazi.

He’s now the head of national security in Ukraine. In that role, he has organized neo-Nazi brigades to murder Russian-speaking Ukrainians en masse.

As former Associated Press and Newsweek reporter Robert Parry writes:

As resistance to Kiev’s right-wing regime expanded in the ethnic Russian east and south, the coup regime found itself unable to count on regular Ukrainian troops to fire on civilians. Thus, its national security chief Andriy Parubiy, himself a neo-Nazi, turned to the intensely motivated neo-Nazi shock troops who had been battle-tested during the coup.

These extremists were reorganized as special units of the National Guard and dispatched to the east and south to do the dirty work that the regular Ukrainian military was unwilling to do. Many of these extreme Ukrainian nationalists lionize World War II Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera and – like Bandera – dream of a racially pure Ukraine, free of Jews, ethnic Russians and other “inferior” beings. The slur of calling the Odessa protesters Colorado beetles — as they were being burned alive — was a reference to the black-and-red colors used by the ethnic Russian resistance in the east.

Though the mainstream U.S. press either describes Parubiy simply as the interim government’s chief of national security (with no further context) or possibly as a “nationalist,” his fuller background includes his founding of the Social-National Party of Ukraine in 1991, blending radical Ukrainian nationalism with neo-Nazi symbols. Last year, he became commandant of the Maidan’s “self-defense forces.”

Then, on April 15, after becoming the Kiev regime’s chief of national security and finding Ukrainian troops unwilling to fire on fellow Ukrainians in the east, Parubiy went on Twitter to announce, “Reserve unit of National Guard formed #Maidan Self-defense volunteers was sent to the front line this morning.”

Those National Guard forces also were reported on the ground in Odessa when the trade unions building was torched on May 2 and they showed up again in Mariupol as the police station was burned on May 9, according to a report in the New York Times on Saturday.

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+100000 !! Thank you for posting that. FINALLY... some in the USA are finally getting it. How long before the masses wake up and stop this out-of-control government in DC ?
"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." ~ Albert Einstein
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America Has Switched Sides: Now Backs Al Qaeda and Nazis

[link to www.washingtonsblog.com]

(snip) The U.S. is backing neo-Nazis in Ukraine (and see this).

These savages have already committed mass murder in broad daylight … on camera while being filmed.

The leader of the “protests” in February 2014 which ousted the president of Ukraine (Andriy Parubiy) is a neo Nazi and follower of a prominent WWII Ukrainian Nazi.

He’s now the head of national security in Ukraine. In that role, he has organized neo-Nazi brigades to murder Russian-speaking Ukrainians en masse.

As former Associated Press and Newsweek reporter Robert Parry writes:

As resistance to Kiev’s right-wing regime expanded in the ethnic Russian east and south, the coup regime found itself unable to count on regular Ukrainian troops to fire on civilians. Thus, its national security chief Andriy Parubiy, himself a neo-Nazi, turned to the intensely motivated neo-Nazi shock troops who had been battle-tested during the coup.

These extremists were reorganized as special units of the National Guard and dispatched to the east and south to do the dirty work that the regular Ukrainian military was unwilling to do. Many of these extreme Ukrainian nationalists lionize World War II Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera and – like Bandera – dream of a racially pure Ukraine, free of Jews, ethnic Russians and other “inferior” beings. The slur of calling the Odessa protesters Colorado beetles — as they were being burned alive — was a reference to the black-and-red colors used by the ethnic Russian resistance in the east.

Though the mainstream U.S. press either describes Parubiy simply as the interim government’s chief of national security (with no further context) or possibly as a “nationalist,” his fuller background includes his founding of the Social-National Party of Ukraine in 1991, blending radical Ukrainian nationalism with neo-Nazi symbols. Last year, he became commandant of the Maidan’s “self-defense forces.”

Then, on April 15, after becoming the Kiev regime’s chief of national security and finding Ukrainian troops unwilling to fire on fellow Ukrainians in the east, Parubiy went on Twitter to announce, “Reserve unit of National Guard formed #Maidan Self-defense volunteers was sent to the front line this morning.”

Those National Guard forces also were reported on the ground in Odessa when the trade unions building was torched on May 2 and they showed up again in Mariupol as the police station was burned on May 9, according to a report in the New York Times on Saturday.

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All hail der MSM...
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America Has Switched Sides: Now Backs Al Qaeda and Nazis

[link to www.washingtonsblog.com]

(snip) The U.S. is backing neo-Nazis in Ukraine (and see this).

These savages have already committed mass murder in broad daylight … on camera while being filmed.

The leader of the “protests” in February 2014 which ousted the president of Ukraine (Andriy Parubiy) is a neo Nazi and follower of a prominent WWII Ukrainian Nazi.

He’s now the head of national security in Ukraine. In that role, he has organized neo-Nazi brigades to murder Russian-speaking Ukrainians en masse.

As former Associated Press and Newsweek reporter Robert Parry writes:

As resistance to Kiev’s right-wing regime expanded in the ethnic Russian east and south, the coup regime found itself unable to count on regular Ukrainian troops to fire on civilians. Thus, its national security chief Andriy Parubiy, himself a neo-Nazi, turned to the intensely motivated neo-Nazi shock troops who had been battle-tested during the coup.

These extremists were reorganized as special units of the National Guard and dispatched to the east and south to do the dirty work that the regular Ukrainian military was unwilling to do. Many of these extreme Ukrainian nationalists lionize World War II Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera and – like Bandera – dream of a racially pure Ukraine, free of Jews, ethnic Russians and other “inferior” beings. The slur of calling the Odessa protesters Colorado beetles — as they were being burned alive — was a reference to the black-and-red colors used by the ethnic Russian resistance in the east.

Though the mainstream U.S. press either describes Parubiy simply as the interim government’s chief of national security (with no further context) or possibly as a “nationalist,” his fuller background includes his founding of the Social-National Party of Ukraine in 1991, blending radical Ukrainian nationalism with neo-Nazi symbols. Last year, he became commandant of the Maidan’s “self-defense forces.”

Then, on April 15, after becoming the Kiev regime’s chief of national security and finding Ukrainian troops unwilling to fire on fellow Ukrainians in the east, Parubiy went on Twitter to announce, “Reserve unit of National Guard formed #Maidan Self-defense volunteers was sent to the front line this morning.”

Those National Guard forces also were reported on the ground in Odessa when the trade unions building was torched on May 2 and they showed up again in Mariupol as the police station was burned on May 9, according to a report in the New York Times on Saturday.

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+100000 !! Thank you for posting that. FINALLY... some in the USA are finally getting it. How long before the masses wake up and stop this out-of-control government in DC ?
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Putin to formulate his attitude to referenda in Ukraine's south-east on their results

What the RF President's decision will be "is difficult to forecast", presidential press secretary Dmitry Peskov said

en.itar-tass.com/russia/731185
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America Has Switched Sides: Now Backs Al Qaeda and Nazis

[link to www.washingtonsblog.com]

...
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+100000 !! Thank you for posting that. FINALLY... some in the USA are finally getting it. How long before the masses wake up and stop this out-of-control government in DC ?
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What are these stories about Obama and his CIA family and their involvements in some putsches, indonesia for example? Was he "chosen" long before the election 2008? Outside USA he was unknown until 2008 as far as I know.

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America Has Switched Sides: Now Backs Al Qaeda and Nazis

[link to www.washingtonsblog.com]

(snip) The U.S. is backing neo-Nazis in Ukraine (and see this).

These savages have already committed mass murder in broad daylight … on camera while being filmed.

The leader of the “protests” in February 2014 which ousted the president of Ukraine (Andriy Parubiy) is a neo Nazi and follower of a prominent WWII Ukrainian Nazi.

He’s now the head of national security in Ukraine. In that role, he has organized neo-Nazi brigades to murder Russian-speaking Ukrainians en masse.

As former Associated Press and Newsweek reporter Robert Parry writes:

As resistance to Kiev’s right-wing regime expanded in the ethnic Russian east and south, the coup regime found itself unable to count on regular Ukrainian troops to fire on civilians. Thus, its national security chief Andriy Parubiy, himself a neo-Nazi, turned to the intensely motivated neo-Nazi shock troops who had been battle-tested during the coup.

These extremists were reorganized as special units of the National Guard and dispatched to the east and south to do the dirty work that the regular Ukrainian military was unwilling to do. Many of these extreme Ukrainian nationalists lionize World War II Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera and – like Bandera – dream of a racially pure Ukraine, free of Jews, ethnic Russians and other “inferior” beings. The slur of calling the Odessa protesters Colorado beetles — as they were being burned alive — was a reference to the black-and-red colors used by the ethnic Russian resistance in the east.

Though the mainstream U.S. press either describes Parubiy simply as the interim government’s chief of national security (with no further context) or possibly as a “nationalist,” his fuller background includes his founding of the Social-National Party of Ukraine in 1991, blending radical Ukrainian nationalism with neo-Nazi symbols. Last year, he became commandant of the Maidan’s “self-defense forces.”

Then, on April 15, after becoming the Kiev regime’s chief of national security and finding Ukrainian troops unwilling to fire on fellow Ukrainians in the east, Parubiy went on Twitter to announce, “Reserve unit of National Guard formed #Maidan Self-defense volunteers was sent to the front line this morning.”

Those National Guard forces also were reported on the ground in Odessa when the trade unions building was torched on May 2 and they showed up again in Mariupol as the police station was burned on May 9, according to a report in the New York Times on Saturday.

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bump
Just one any....

The first symptom of stupidity is to think that we already know everything...

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Putin is not planned so aggravate the situation in Ukraine - Kissinger

According to former U.S. secretary of state, Putin's actions - a reaction to the fact that the situation in Ukraine at some point "out of control"

On Sunday, the TV channel CNN, former U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger said that Vladimir Putin, apparently not previously planned operation in Ukraine.

"You have to ask yourself the question: he spent $ 60 billion on the Olympics. There were opening and closing ceremonies. He tried to portray Russia as a normal, progressive state. Therefore impossible that after some three days he deliberately launched an offensive in Ukraine" - said the former secretary of state.

He also stressed that the actions of the Russian leader was most likely a response to a situation out of control.

"I think that at times he had a desire to subordinate Ukraine. And at all times, all known Russian, with whom I have ever met, including dissidents such as Solzhenitsyn and Brodsky considers Ukraine part of Russian history and culture. But I do not think that this time he planned so all aggravate. I think he had in mind a more gradual development of the situation, and it was, like, a reaction to what he considered an emergency. course, explaining why he did so, it is impossible to justify the annexation of the territory of another country or an invasion of another country. But I think we need to first solve the problem of Ukraine, and then discuss the relationship with Russia, "- said Kissinger.

Recall, on the eve of a scientist, a politician, an adviser to the U.S. President for National Security Affairs, Zbigniew Brzezinski said that Russia is changing, and the U.S. must understand this

[link to 112.ua]
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Flippin' Heck, just how corrupt do you have to be before Kissinger is calling you on your bullshit?
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ITAR TASS

Putin to formulate his attitude to referenda in Ukraine's south-east on their results

What the RF President's decision will be "is difficult to forecast", presidential press secretary Dmitry Peskov said

en.itar-tass.com/russia/731185
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Putin: Is it worth further sanctions? Question is, is China ready to support Russia vs West? Is German industry ready to drop Russia? No and No. Donbass aint worth it for him. Germans and Chinese will be telling him to go home. If that is incorrect, and he goes in, it will be the signal.
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#UKRAINE: Kiev troops begin shelling #Slavyansk checkpoint, blasts of artillery ammunition heard - reports [link to on.rt.com]
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ITAR TASS

Putin to formulate his attitude to referenda in Ukraine's south-east on their results

What the RF President's decision will be "is difficult to forecast", presidential press secretary Dmitry Peskov said

en.itar-tass.com/russia/731185
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Putin: Is it worth further sanctions? Question is, is China ready to support Russia vs West? Is German industry ready to drop Russia? No and No. Donbass aint worth it for him. Germans and Chinese will be telling him to go home. If that is incorrect, and he goes in, it will be the signal.
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how do you know about German or Chinese, go home to your kangaroos
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V. Novodvorskaya

Appeal to the leaders of the EU and the U.S.

gentlemen,
Europe is on the brink of a new global war , which will begin in the near future Russian aggression .
Today it is too late to talk about any level of sanctions , but it should be noted that excessive caution shown by the introduction of sanctions , the inconsistency of these actions actually led to the promotion of the aggressor.

The assumption that Putin satisfied with the annexation of Crimea turned manifestation of carelessness and irresponsibility. As in the beginning of the Second World War, the annexation of Austria only encourage the aggressor to seize Czechoslovakia , then Poland and other countries .

Has conducted military operations in eastern and southern Ukraine suggests that the aggressor does not stop and after the conquest of the whole Ukraine.

On turn Moldova , Latvia, Estonia , Georgia .

Unconditioned response to aggression in Eastern Europe, the former Soviet satellites , impunity action aggressor in Ukraine , encourage him to expand their aggressive actions and these countries .

Today, Putin impudent every day. Russia's leaders are openly preparing for military action , building up military forces on its borders , make aggressive bellicose statements about the use of heavy bombing and even the possibility of using nuclear weapons.

Militarist propaganda campaign preparing the population of the aggressor for a global war .
Today it is obvious that Putin can only be stopped by military force.

Choices that need to do today - to immediately stop the Russian armed force or to prepare for a third world war using nuclear weapons not only in Europe.

We hope that the leaders of the EU and the U.S. understand the responsibility that they have towards their citizens , citizens of other countries facing humanity.

We encourage you to move from peacekeeping appeals of persuasion and sanctions for actions that will stop escalating local conflict into a global war.

Chairman DS V.Novodvorskaya
Party Chairman West Select K.Borovoy
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Good news for #Ukraine: will soon receive 38(!) more BTR4s, made in Ukraine. Heavily armored, heavily armed. [link to pic.twitter.com]



4 brand new ones are presently in use against the armed terrorists in Donetsk oblast right now.
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I wonder if the West even realise they have just been checkmated? Putin has already won this stand-off.

If Ukraine sends it's far-right militia to crack down on the newly independent regions they are going to face ever increasing hostility in the regions they still hold. Also, the more violence they commit against their own citizens, the closer they will get to a Russian 'invasion' actually becoming a welcomed Russian 'intervention' on humanitarian and peacekeeping grounds.

If they take the sensible option and enter into talks aimed at a peaceful, unifying solution instead of attempting to rule through violence, Russian interests will surely be part of the negotiations. Like others have said, all Putin has to do now is sit back and wait.

Twice in a year, Russia has totally beaten Western war machine without having to fire a shot, first in Syria, now in Ukraine. Kerry and Little Willy Hague should stop running round trying to start wars and start studying Russia to see what real statesmen look like.
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ITAR TASS

Putin to formulate his attitude to referenda in Ukraine's south-east on their results

What the RF President's decision will be "is difficult to forecast", presidential press secretary Dmitry Peskov said

en.itar-tass.com/russia/731185
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54482119


Putin: Is it worth further sanctions? Question is, is China ready to support Russia vs West? Is German industry ready to drop Russia? No and No. Donbass aint worth it for him. Germans and Chinese will be telling him to go home. If that is incorrect, and he goes in, it will be the signal.
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how do you know about German or Chinese, go home to your kangaroos
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FYI: Putin speaks german language very good and Merkel has excellent experiences in russian language.
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ITAR TASS

Putin to formulate his attitude to referenda in Ukraine's south-east on their results

What the RF President's decision will be "is difficult to forecast", presidential press secretary Dmitry Peskov said

en.itar-tass.com/russia/731185
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54482119


Putin: Is it worth further sanctions? Question is, is China ready to support Russia vs West? Is German industry ready to drop Russia? No and No. Donbass aint worth it for him. Germans and Chinese will be telling him to go home. If that is incorrect, and he goes in, it will be the signal.
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how do you know about German or Chinese, go home to your kangaroos
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FYI: Putin speaks german language very good and Merkel has excellent experiences in russian language.
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so? what's your point?
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so? what's your point?
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They can talk without translation. I wrote "FYI". Maybe someone is interested in such info. You not. Ok.

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so? what's your point?
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They can talk without translation. I wrote "FYI". Maybe someone is interested in such info. You not. Ok.

cool2
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everybody knows that, and it has nothing to do with the topic discussed
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No Nazis in Ukraine. Thats Russian propaganda.

The Russians are the new dangerous facsists of the planet, and the Jews of Ukraine agree with this fact!
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fuck off, zion shill
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Actually he is both right and wrong. It is indeed Russian propaganda to call someone Nazis or Fascists, it just provokes an emotional response in them, there does not need to be any truth behind it, anyone who opposes them are automatically "fascists", the meaning of the word is completely watered down to them. There are real Ukrainian patriots out there who love their country and are defending it against Russian aggression, ofcourse on the flip side the west isn't any better, but being anti-Russian aggression doesnt automatically mean you are pro-western, these poor chumps are just caught in between, just like my country.

But he may be wrong in the sense that there may be some fake implanted factions there for provocations.

But really there are no fascists or nazis, thats just the same kind of boogyman word for Russians, as "terrorist" is for Americans. And we all know who the real terrorists are.

You cant really take a side in this, both sides are wrong, and its all just a show.

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Somewhat related.
France has banned voting on syrian election in france for the syrians who reside there.
Amazing democracy!!!
It is ironic since most syrians living in france are expected to support european views. Yet the poll showed that mose people were going to vote for Assad. Hence the ban.
2014 has been a very interesting year. People all over are voting for their rights. Only this time they are able to see the reality as it happens.
Internet is the downfall of tptb.
Western leaders attitude is going from bad to worse as they watch their empire collapse.
Very soon the rats will abandon the ship. There will then be scuffles between themselves and testifying against each other to save their own skin.
For eu, nato and usa. Collapse of old regime has started.
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Most of those guys look like extras from Duck Dynasty, why are they bearded and nasty when the majority of other folks in the country appear clean shaven and well dressed?
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What was the question on ballot paper in yesterday's referendum..anyone know?
Anti-Zionism NOT Antisemitism
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What was the question on ballot paper in yesterday's referendum..anyone know?
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Do you like fishsticks?
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What was the question on ballot paper in yesterday's referendum..anyone know?
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Autonomy....Yes or NO..
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if russia regonises the referedum then they cant say that ukraine is attacking its own citizens as its an indepedent state but they can say the ukraine army are a foreign invading force and could be called in as peacekeepers (kiev will call it an invasion)

Ukraine will be fools now if they backed down


Althogh expect putin to not regonise invasion
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reconise referendum
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Sergei Lavrov will give press conference in which he'll comment on the recent events in the Donetsk People's Republic, say foreign ministry





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