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I agree, I am half German and an half Croat.. and I remember the War in Yugoslavia like it was yesterday. The same anglo-saxon strategy. Did you know that the first ever western induced color revolution we have seen rather often lately happened in Yugoslavia during Tito's presidency? It was called "the Croatian Spring", I kid you not. Back then Tito first wanted to crack down on it, but then chaged his tactics and made some concessions regarding "personal liberties". Back in those days the US was playing the right side of the devil's arse, Soviet Union was the left, and Yugoslavia ended up as the Arshole inbetween.. when NATO bombed us with depleted Uranium the western world congratulated themselves.. but of course, only after they watched the country get torn down for 5 years.

I see myself as a political Atheist, not playing into the hegelian game of dumb and dumber,

and I will never forget and I will never forgive.
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And then there was a Romanian revolution. And before that - British retreat from India that ensured that Pakistan would ever be the enemy of Deli. And many other examples.
BTW, one of their signature moves are the "unknown snipers" that shoot the both sides of the emerged conflict.

In Russia we actually believed in American goodwill in 90s. "Cold War has ended, we are all friends now, etc., etc..."
Till 1999 and bombings of Belgrad. U-turn of PM Primakov's jet above Atlantics was quite literal gesture.

You know, Margarita Simonyan, editor-in-chief of RT once told a story during one talk-show. In 1996 she participiated in student exchange program in Bristol. Later, in 2000s she visited her friend there.
They asked - "Why are Russians turning a cold shoulder towards US? You were so friendly in 90s..."
She answered - "Probably since Yugoslavia and bombings of Belgrad"
"Bombings? Who did it?"
"Your country did."
"What? It is not possible!"
"You have Internet, don't you? Let's do a search..."
Her friend was shocked speechless. She did not even know anything about it - or just forgot already.

"The essence of the question is not whether the Russia has a right to own the coast, but rather whether it is profitable to us. British interests are above the law and justice, because they are the law and justice" - Speech of MP T. Etwood in the House of Commons // Hansard’s Parliamentary Debates. Vol. 38. L., 1838.

"Do not listen what Americans say. Do what they are doing" - Arabian proverb
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Yes and Russia has played it straight and honest all this time. Evil scumbag Americans. Always causing trouble.

Maybe Putin should not have come over here and tell a school student that the U.S. state that interests him the most is Alaska. Maybe we never trusted Russia because of its corruption and underlying goals were always aligned against the West. Maybe Russia has been meddling too long in our backyard and it is time for some payback.
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@Tamonten

UK is surely been playing "their great game" since 1813 and the US is like their big clumsey "lot'sa muscle & no brains" cousin.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: OTTO VON BISMARCK


Well, yeah. The Great Game had never ended. Because we are still alive.


"When every one is dead the Great Game is finished. Not before." - Rudyard Kipling, "Kim" (1901)
"But we are still alive." - Mikhail Leontyev, "The Great Game: British Empire vs. Russia and USSR" (2007)
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"When every one is dead the Great Game is finished. Not before." - Rudyard Kipling, "Kim" (1901)
"But we are still alive." - Thread: "The Great Game" by Mikhail Leontyev (2007-2008)

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Thread: I'm Russian – ask me a question. Be it about Russia or a personal one.
Thread: From Rus' to Russia - grand concert on the Red Square, June 12th 2015 - please help with translation!

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And then there was a Romanian revolution. And before that - British retreat from India that ensured that Pakistan would ever be the enemy of Deli. And many other examples.
BTW, one of their signature moves are the "unknown snipers" that shoot the both sides of the emerged conflict.

In Russia we actually believed in American goodwill in 90s. "Cold War has ended, we are all friends now, etc., etc..."
Till 1999 and bombings of Belgrad. U-turn of PM Primakov's jet above Atlantics was quite literal gesture.

You know, Margarita Simonyan, editor-in-chief of RT once told a story during one talk-show. In 1996 she participiated in student exchange program in Bristol. Later, in 2000s she visited her friend there.
They asked - "Why are Russians turning a cold shoulder towards US? You were so friendly in 90s..."
She answered - "Probably since Yugoslavia and bombings of Belgrad"
"Bombings? Who did it?"
"Your country did."
"What? It is not possible!"
"You have Internet, don't you? Let's do a search..."
Her friend was shocked speechless. She did not even know anything about it - or just forgot already.

"The essence of the question is not whether the Russia has a right to own the coast, but rather whether it is profitable to us. British interests are above the law and justice, because they are the law and justice" - Speech of MP T. Etwood in the House of Commons // Hansard’s Parliamentary Debates. Vol. 38. L., 1838.

"Do not listen what Americans say. Do what they are doing" - Arabian proverb
 Quoting: Tamonten


Yes and Russia has played it straight and honest all this time. Evil scumbag Americans. Always causing trouble.

Maybe Putin should not have come over here and tell a school student that the U.S. state that interests him the most is Alaska. Maybe we never trusted Russia because of its corruption and underlying goals were always aligned against the West. Maybe Russia has been meddling too long in our backyard and it is time for some payback.
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@Tamonten

UK is surely been playing "their great game" since 1813 and the US is like their big clumsey "lot'sa muscle & no brains" cousin.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: OTTO VON BISMARCK


Well, yeah. The Great Game had never ended. Because we are still alive.


"When every one is dead the Great Game is finished. Not before." - Rudyard Kipling, "Kim" (1901)
"But we are still alive." - Mikhail Leontyev, "The Great Game: British Empire vs. Russia and USSR" (2007)

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I recently saw a documentary about British geologists worrying about "bad weather" [heavy rains, freezing winters etc] the southern part of England may soon "break of and sink into the channel". Not kidding. They explained that their turf is soaked like a frikken sponge and unable to absorb all that water, so every day the extra 5 minutes it rains the English face mayhem down the road.

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"US and Europe ‘ratcheting up pressure’ after phone call reveals Russia behind Mariupol massacre"

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I heard the phone call. Sounds fake.
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Very fake. Even reputable pro-west sources won't touch it. The fact that the Ukies faked evidence shows you who was behind it.
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Lol, all I saw was an Aussie new's link. Made my mind up right there before i even saw all the fake comments. hf
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BREAKING: #UNSC emergency meeting will be held tomorrow on #Mariupol. Ukrainian Ambassador says: "different from all previous ones"
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norespect

Russia will veto anything.
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So does the POTUS.

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So Russia has not caused any provocations or dealings in Central and South America that would seem remotely threatening to the Security of the U.S. ? Nice one there.

Russia would not ever think of backing nations that are in direct conflict with the U.S. ? Another nice one.

Russia would never directly engage a U.S. ally in conflict? Another big nice one.


And as far as the clumsy muscle comment, the U K And Russia both are not silky smooth operators. Argentina? Chechnya?


Putin is corrupt. He handles international matters as if he is Blaster Master of Barter Town. He's really making friends and influencing people in Europe lately.
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So Russia has not caused any provocations or dealings in Central and South America that would seem remotely threatening to the Security of the U.S. ? Nice one there.

Russia would not ever think of backing nations that are in direct conflict with the U.S. ? Another nice one.

Russia would never directly engage a U.S. ally in conflict? Another big nice one.


And as far as the clumsy muscle comment, the U K And Russia both are not silky smooth operators. Argentina? Chechnya?


Putin is corrupt. He handles international matters as if he is Blaster Master of Barter Town. He's really making friends and influencing people in Europe lately.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36429740


IF America is so high and mighty, please remind me how many Russian embassies have been attacked over past 25, no 50 years?

How many American?
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So Russia has not caused any provocations or dealings in Central and South America that would seem remotely threatening to the Security of the U.S. ? Nice one there.

Russia would not ever think of backing nations that are in direct conflict with the U.S. ? Another nice one.

Russia would never directly engage a U.S. ally in conflict? Another big nice one.


And as far as the clumsy muscle comment, the U K And Russia both are not silky smooth operators. Argentina? Chechnya?


Putin is corrupt. He handles international matters as if he is Blaster Master of Barter Town. He's really making friends and influencing people in Europe lately.
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Master Blaster . . . . ROTFLMAO.
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Who posted this!? I was closing some open tabs in my browser and this picture of Ukie war-room was opened.
I had to do a double take on the picture, I didn't remember seeing a dog, and is that, is that Yats father?

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So Russia has not caused any provocations or dealings in Central and South America that would seem remotely threatening to the Security of the U.S. ? Nice one there.

Russia would not ever think of backing nations that are in direct conflict with the U.S. ? Another nice one.

Russia would never directly engage a U.S. ally in conflict? Another big nice one.


And as far as the clumsy muscle comment, the U K And Russia both are not silky smooth operators. Argentina? Chechnya?


Putin is corrupt. He handles international matters as if he is Blaster Master of Barter Town. He's really making friends and influencing people in Europe lately.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36429740


IF America is so high and mighty, please remind me how many Russian embassies have been attacked over past 25, no 50 years?

How many American?
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And usually the weapon of choice for terrorists is the AK47s. Ever stop and think about that? Is it quality or accessibility?


Your logic seems skewed. Because U.S. embassies are attacked, somehow that makes the U.S. evil? Well, shit. What a revelation! You have opened my eyes! How could I have been so wrong!

How about the fact that most embassy attacks are carried out by muslims? Even before 9/11.


In regards to Russia, I don't remember the U.S. building a wall in Europe and shooting people in the back if they dared go near it? Most of the kids on here don't remember any of this shit because they were not even alive then.
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So Russia has not caused any provocations or dealings in Central and South America that would seem remotely threatening to the Security of the U.S. ? Nice one there.

Cuba missle crisis, crisis-point of the Cold War, but wasn't it you, I mean the CIA that funded, trained, armed and transported 1,300 Cuban exiles to invade Cuba? They landed at the Bay of Pigs and made an attempt to overthrow Castro. The invasion was a disaster, and President Kennedy was humiliated. And only AFTER THAT Russia promised weapons to defend Cuba against American COUP D'ETAT FUCKTARDERY.

Russia would not ever think of backing nations that are in direct conflict with the U.S. ? Another nice one.

What came first, the Chicken or the Egg? Actually there is a definite answer and one dindeed came first, if you use a microscope and determine fact via measured observation you can come to the conclusion, all you need is an Egg and said microscope.

Russia would never directly engage a U.S. ally in conflict? Another big nice one.

That's like asking if USA ever has enough "ass in their pants" to directly engage Russia instead of massmurdering smaller nations. Sure we could contemplate about that, but I doubt that.


And as far as the clumsy muscle comment, the U K And Russia both are not silky smooth operators. Argentina? Chechnya?

Killing half a million Iraqi's because of outright deception and telling a lie to the entire world is more than just clumsy.


Putin is corrupt. He handles international matters as if he is Blaster Master of Barter Town. He's really making friends and influencing people in Europe lately.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36429740


Putin is the most "un-corrupt" politian when compared to ALL western leaders, he is also a very humble fella and his display of shitless excursions is a "cultural thing" in a world were the "strong masculine figure" is actually a POSITIVE sign, whereas english and american men argue like girls and think being macho is to ditch a pregnant girlfriend because taking responsibility "sucks"..right?
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[link to putnik1.livejournal.com]
Acording to Vershinin's (writer of Jewish origin, born in Odessa, now posts everyday about Novorossia and f.Ukraine) sources:
1. Troitskoye was taken by NAF.
2. Krymskoye and Orekhovo-Donetskoye are underway.
3. Debaltsevo cauldron is de facto closed.
For now it's quiet near Schastye.

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Debaltsevo cauldron is de facto closed

NO QUARTER!

resist
Sparta!
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This confirms it. Putin is in charge of Ukie military strategy.
chuckle
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Strategy? There is a strategy? blink
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Anybody paying attention, that could read a map knew what the strategy would be, months ago..Kiev is trapped by their own hysterical propaganda, and yet again, thousands of Ukrainian conscripts are going to die beause of it, while the Nazi's and the Billionaire Oligarchs live the high life, with their OWN kids exempt from service, or hiding in the "Kiev" battalion.
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So Russia has not caused any provocations or dealings in Central and South America that would seem remotely threatening to the Security of the U.S. ? Nice one there.

Russia would not ever think of backing nations that are in direct conflict with the U.S. ? Another nice one.

Russia would never directly engage a U.S. ally in conflict? Another big nice one.


And as far as the clumsy muscle comment, the U K And Russia both are not silky smooth operators. Argentina? Chechnya?


Putin is corrupt. He handles international matters as if he is Blaster Master of Barter Town. He's really making friends and influencing people in Europe lately.
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Master Blaster . . . . ROTFLMAO.
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LOL.... Damn Dyslexia! That is pretty darn funny.
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So Russia has not caused any provocations or dealings in Central and South America that would seem remotely threatening to the Security of the U.S. ? Nice one there.

Cuba missle crisis, crisis-point of the Cold War, but wasn't it you, I mean the CIA that funded, trained, armed and transported 1,300 Cuban exiles to invade Cuba? They landed at the Bay of Pigs and made an attempt to overthrow Castro. The invasion was a disaster, and President Kennedy was humiliated. And only AFTER THAT Russia promised weapons to defend Cuba against American COUP D'ETAT FUCKTARDERY.

Russia would not ever think of backing nations that are in direct conflict with the U.S. ? Another nice one.

What came first, the Chicken or the Egg? Actually there is a definite answer and one dindeed came first, if you use a microscope and determine fact via measured observation you can come to the conclusion, all you need is an Egg and said microscope.

Russia would never directly engage a U.S. ally in conflict? Another big nice one.

That's like asking if USA ever has enough "ass in their pants" to directly engage Russia instead of massmurdering smaller nations. Sure we could contemplate about that, but I doubt that.


And as far as the clumsy muscle comment, the U K And Russia both are not silky smooth operators. Argentina? Chechnya?

Killing half a million Iraqi's because of outright deception and telling a lie to the entire world is more than just clumsy.


Putin is corrupt. He handles international matters as if he is Blaster Master of Barter Town. He's really making friends and influencing people in Europe lately.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36429740


Putin is the most "un-corrupt" politian when compared to ALL western leaders, he is also a very humble fella and his display of shitless excursions is a "cultural thing" in a world were the "strong masculine figure" is actually a POSITIVE sign, whereas english and american men argue like girls and think being macho is to ditch a pregnant girlfriend because taking responsibility "sucks"..right?
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Huh...WTF are you mumbling about? You sound like a woman that has been cheated on. Or a blonde slut that got knocked up by some black dude.
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So Russia has not caused any provocations or dealings in Central and South America that would seem remotely threatening to the Security of the U.S. ? Nice one there.

Russia would not ever think of backing nations that are in direct conflict with the U.S. ? Another nice one.

Russia would never directly engage a U.S. ally in conflict? Another big nice one.


And as far as the clumsy muscle comment, the U K And Russia both are not silky smooth operators. Argentina? Chechnya?


Putin is corrupt. He handles international matters as if he is Blaster Master of Barter Town. He's really making friends and influencing people in Europe lately.
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Master Blaster . . . . ROTFLMAO.
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BTW... Blaster Master was a great NES game!
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So Russia has not caused any provocations or dealings in Central and South America that would seem remotely threatening to the Security of the U.S. ? Nice one there.

Russia would not ever think of backing nations that are in direct conflict with the U.S. ? Another nice one.

Russia would never directly engage a U.S. ally in conflict? Another big nice one.


And as far as the clumsy muscle comment, the U K And Russia both are not silky smooth operators. Argentina? Chechnya?


Putin is corrupt. He handles international matters as if he is Blaster Master of Barter Town. He's really making friends and influencing people in Europe lately.
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Master Blaster . . . . ROTFLMAO.
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BTW... Blaster Master was a great NES game!
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Wen I read that all I thought about was that little midget riding on that giants back. Is that what you referred to? I laughed so fucking hard about that image.
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Debaltsevo cauldron is de facto closed

NO QUARTER!

resist
Sparta!
 Quoting: PIR


This confirms it. Putin is in charge of Ukie military strategy.
chuckle
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Strategy? There is a strategy? blink
 Quoting: Tamonten


Anybody paying attention, that could read a map knew what the strategy would be, months ago..Kiev is trapped by their own hysterical propaganda, and yet again, thousands of Ukrainian conscripts are going to die beause of it, while the Nazi's and the Billionaire Oligarchs live the high life, with their OWN kids exempt from service, or hiding in the "Kiev" battalion.
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the Kiev Battalion will soon be on their knees face to face with the NAF on the Maidan.
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>>In regards to Russia, I don't remember the U.S. building a wall in Europe and shooting people in the back if they dared go near it? Most of the kids on here don't remember any of this shit because they were not even alive then.<<

Honecker shooting his countrymen was evil and the Berlin wall was a big mistake, we Germans in East and West still have to reconcilliate as all the countries crushed between 2 superpowers still do..

but since we are at it..

I can't keep forgetting the millions of dead civilians of the Vietnam war, or the more recent ones of Iraq, libya, Syria,

Have you ever asked yourself why became the absolute KING of 20th century wars? Around 1912/13, when you became DEFACTO a colony of UK banking system again?

However... you did greatly benefit from WWI and WWII and that made you properbly indifferent and ever since accustomed to earn your bread and butter with killing, plundering and opression of other nations..

I asked earlier... do you have any friends in this world, REAL ones... not threatened, blackmailed or plainly forced ones? Russia has many... without the need to use your measures methinks.
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Oh you small minded US americans friends...tounge

only capable of conveying "slogans"..

but utterly unable to argue your viewpoints?

Let me give you one too:

Obamaha - the doomer boomer brah

hahaha hahaha hahaha.. hah hah!
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So Russia has not caused any provocations or dealings in Central and South America that would seem remotely threatening to the Security of the U.S. ? Nice one there.

Cuba missle crisis, crisis-point of the Cold War, but wasn't it you, I mean the CIA that funded, trained, armed and transported 1,300 Cuban exiles to invade Cuba? They landed at the Bay of Pigs and made an attempt to overthrow Castro. The invasion was a disaster, and President Kennedy was humiliated. And only AFTER THAT Russia promised weapons to defend Cuba against American COUP D'ETAT FUCKTARDERY.

Russia would not ever think of backing nations that are in direct conflict with the U.S. ? Another nice one.

What came first, the Chicken or the Egg? Actually there is a definite answer and one dindeed came first, if you use a microscope and determine fact via measured observation you can come to the conclusion, all you need is an Egg and said microscope.

Russia would never directly engage a U.S. ally in conflict? Another big nice one.

That's like asking if USA ever has enough "ass in their pants" to directly engage Russia instead of massmurdering smaller nations. Sure we could contemplate about that, but I doubt that.


And as far as the clumsy muscle comment, the U K And Russia both are not silky smooth operators. Argentina? Chechnya?

Killing half a million Iraqi's because of outright deception and telling a lie to the entire world is more than just clumsy.


Putin is corrupt. He handles international matters as if he is Blaster Master of Barter Town. He's really making friends and influencing people in Europe lately.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36429740


Putin is the most "un-corrupt" politian when compared to ALL western leaders, he is also a very humble fella and his display of shitless excursions is a "cultural thing" in a world were the "strong masculine figure" is actually a POSITIVE sign, whereas english and american men argue like girls and think being macho is to ditch a pregnant girlfriend because taking responsibility "sucks"..right?
 Quoting: OTTO VON BISMARCK



Huh...WTF are you mumbling about? You sound like a woman that has been cheated on. Or a blonde slut that got knocked up by some black dude.
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uh uhm, and you sound a like a dickhead that ran out of valid argument resorting to Faulty Causation?

Common you do better than that, or maybe not if one consideres the out of wedlock US birthrates....
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Calling Putin’s energy bluff

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New European energy commissioner Maros Sefcovic was treated to a blunt and rude welcoming in Moscow. No more gas through Ukraine for Europe, he was told by Gazprom boss Alexey Miller. Is the Russian energy capo serious?  After all, Russia’s President, Mr. Vladimir Putin, not so long ago introduced the idea of a Russo-Turkish energy alliance. Compounded with the conflict in Ukraine, sanctions and a falling ruble, this latest Russian ultimatum may be more a call from a position of desperation rather than strength.

Let’s consider what the Russians are actually saying. They are saying that they will no longer sell natural gas to Europe through Ukraine. They are also saying that if Europe wants Russian gas, they have to pick it up at the Turkey-Greece border. They are further saying if Europe doesn’t agree to these conditions, they’ll sell their gas to someone else. A tall order of demands, and surely, Mr. Sefcovic was not inspired by his first meeting in Moscow, and let’s hope that he was also not too impressed by these empty Russian threats. Yes, empty!
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Cassad 1/25 updates:

-Expected Junta Armored offensive North of Dokuchayevsk happened today. Kiev claims the got into Yelenovka, then fell back after a counter-attack.
Rebels claim they were stopped short of the village, and took "Significant" armor losses.

-west of Gorlovka rebels continued to push the enemy towards Dzerzhinsk, which is for now firmly held by the junta, and also swept the majority of Mayor

- Debalcevo pocket still being closed, rebels getting closer to completely cutting the highway. Kiev, despite already committing significant reserves, can't seem to stabilize the situation.

-Popanaya effectively captured, some fighting still in the area. Artyomovsk now in danger.
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Calling Putin’s energy bluff

BORUT GRGIC

New European energy commissioner Maros Sefcovic was treated to a blunt and rude welcoming in Moscow. No more gas through Ukraine for Europe, he was told by Gazprom boss Alexey Miller. Is the Russian energy capo serious?  After all, Russia’s President, Mr. Vladimir Putin, not so long ago introduced the idea of a Russo-Turkish energy alliance. Compounded with the conflict in Ukraine, sanctions and a falling ruble, this latest Russian ultimatum may be more a call from a position of desperation rather than strength.

Let’s consider what the Russians are actually saying. They are saying that they will no longer sell natural gas to Europe through Ukraine. They are also saying that if Europe wants Russian gas, they have to pick it up at the Turkey-Greece border. They are further saying if Europe doesn’t agree to these conditions, they’ll sell their gas to someone else. A tall order of demands, and surely, Mr. Sefcovic was not inspired by his first meeting in Moscow, and let’s hope that he was also not too impressed by these empty Russian threats. Yes, empty!
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according to what the Russians said, there are no ifs, ands or buts about it.

It's final
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PUTIN THE SPOILER
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Yet, Putin’s moves have triggered the law of unintended consequences. His tactical victory will inevitably result in his strategic defeat. The Kremlin may fortify the walls of its decaying fortress while undermining its foundation. The incursion into Crimea has already triggered the collapse of the Russian ruble. The Putin Doctrine turns the country into a perpetually mobilized command economy state, which in 1991 brought about the collapse of the Soviet Union.

The law of unintended consequences is also at work in the Ukraine crisis. The Kremlin did what no Ukrainian political force previously could achieve—the Russian invasion united Ukraine’s disparate political forces—liberals, nationalists, the left, oligarchs, communists, and even the Party of Regions. It is possible that Putin will only help Ukrainians to strengthen their national identity on the basis of a national liberation struggle.

Vladimir Putin has unleashed processes that he can’t contain any more. He still can play and pretend; he can blackmail the world unprepared for a maverick at the helm of a nuclear power. He can be the spoiler, forcing others to seek appeasement in fear of cornering him. But he cannot win: he has already lost. He has prevented modernization of Russia and turned the country toward the past. He will not be able to contain the inevitable tide of Russian frustration when the people discover that he lied to them and that he can’t guarantee them a normal and dignified life. The grapes of future wrath are growing. The question remains, what will be the final price of Putin’s departure?
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no use even posting that, he's apparently too stupid to understand, and might even chalk it up to "Russian propaganda"
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I don't speak Ukrainian. Do you?
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no, but I trust that he did say that, and as I predicted you apparently don't think so.

lemme guess..

just another example of "Russian propaganda".

amirite?
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Don't put words into my mouth, troll.
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another example of your failure to answer a very simple question.

it was either yes or no.

I'm guessing that you refuse to answer very simple questions like that because it would be an admission of your blatant hypocrisy or stupidity. Take your pick.
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@MarQs__: “Can hear lots of shelling this morning in #Donetsk. Sometimes very continuous, almost no break. Windows just shook” via @kjovano
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@MarQs__: Also heavy outgoing and incoming artillery in #Olenivka this morning, power is off
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Calling Putin’s energy bluff

BORUT GRGIC

New European energy commissioner Maros Sefcovic was treated to a blunt and rude welcoming in Moscow. No more gas through Ukraine for Europe, he was told by Gazprom boss Alexey Miller. Is the Russian energy capo serious?  After all, Russia’s President, Mr. Vladimir Putin, not so long ago introduced the idea of a Russo-Turkish energy alliance. Compounded with the conflict in Ukraine, sanctions and a falling ruble, this latest Russian ultimatum may be more a call from a position of desperation rather than strength.

Let’s consider what the Russians are actually saying. They are saying that they will no longer sell natural gas to Europe through Ukraine. They are also saying that if Europe wants Russian gas, they have to pick it up at the Turkey-Greece border. They are further saying if Europe doesn’t agree to these conditions, they’ll sell their gas to someone else. A tall order of demands, and surely, Mr. Sefcovic was not inspired by his first meeting in Moscow, and let’s hope that he was also not too impressed by these empty Russian threats. Yes, empty!
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US americans seem to be a little bit slow in the head, and my dear AC, this is not directed at you - so no need to take it personal... but... your gov is the biggesst fuck up of all, and you know why, because it is a yet undetected coup d'etat by it#s own citizens.. let me give you an example....

Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say: [link to www.timesofisrael.com]


QUOTE: >>that Netanyahu’s apparent disrespect for the US leadership was particularly offensive to Secretary of State John Kerry, who over the past month had made frenzied efforts on Israel’s behalf on the world stage — making dozens of calls to world leaders to convince them to oppose a UN Security Council resolution which would have set a timeframe for the establishment of a Palestinian state.<<

That akward moment when it's hard to keep a straight face and not start to burst out laughing loud....

So what's next?

New sanctions against Iran come a little late since Iran already announced to ditch the dollar in all trading.. and just signed a military deal with Russia.

The point I am trying to make appearent is that Russia, despite all the pain you inflict on them seems always to be two steps ahead of you, you know that "mental agility" and no matter what.. you don't seem to be able to "INTERPET" any of Russia's cryptic or direct messages logically, instead you seem to be caught up in some kind of woo woo prophesy/alien/predictive media programing loop..
The secret of politics? Make a good treaty with Russia. -Otto von Bismarck





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