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Aftermath of Monday's fighting in #Donetsk suburbs. The bodies of three Ukrainian forces lie beside their tank. pic.twitter.com/OFX1flI0xy

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Business Insider @businessinsider · 55 seg

Delta Just Halted All Flights To Israel [link to read.bi]



 Quoting: Luisport



RT @RT_com · 8 seg

BREAKING: Major US air companies suspend flights to and from #Israel [link to on.rt.com]



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LOL, yeah but their foreign corporate partner airlines continue to fly into Ben gurion airport! No politics involved with this decision, i'm sure!

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Russia pulling troops from Transbaikal & Far Eastern military districts close to the border with Ukraine [link to mediarnbo.org]
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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I'll just say that if this is result of guarding by Ukrainian army, it's better to be unprotected.

About the rest... there were no any real conclusions about damage characteristics from experts on the spot. But comments of "internet experts" on uploaded photos were that it's likely to be air-to-air missile's fault.
 Quoting: Tamonten

If it was air-to-air missile, that downed MH17, then Ukrainians should have immediately taken wreck site under their control and hide the evidence. I bet that it was a surface-to-air missile. The big question is, which one, Buk M1, newer version or something else.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58282033


I,d say the junta brought the plane down just a few secs/mins too late, as it came down on the rebel side of the front line.

Just another monumental fuck up.
 Quoting: firinne


But then no-one would have believed that it was the militia.
 Quoting: Midlight


You gotta understand that most of the sheeple believe what the MSM tell them. And any objective jurnalism is just seen as crackpot conspiracy theory.

Believe me that plane was supposed to come down on the other side of the front line, they would just have said the missile was fired from the rebel side though.
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The Swede Mikael Skillt kidnapped by separatists
He was arrested last night outside the city Perevalsk in Luhansk!


FINALLY! Good job!
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ConflictReporter @MiddleEast_BRK · 18 seg

#BREAKINGFOOTAGE Russian invaders attack the 25th airmobile brigade w/ T-64,BTR,BMP,ATGM.

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Best frontline footage what I saw from this conflict to the date...

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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Putin: Russia must strengthen military capability to counter NATO activity in eastern Europe!!!
 Quoting: Midlight


Cold war 2.0, here we go.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57271883


only now it's: the West (NWO) against BRICS
.
 Quoting: Cats88


Well I doubt Brazil, and probably also India and South Africa, would want to be allied with China and Russia against USA and EU. India and China are no friends, South Africa and Brazil get all their money from the West.
 Quoting: Midlight


But CUBA is a friend of the Ruskies, and they have a lot of money ...
In an other article it was mentioned that India [govt and a lot of people] sees Rukia as their best friend and trusted ally.

This was said by a minister from India who was on an other plane in the area at the time MH17 was attacked.

Japan is in on the BRICS also.



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The Swede Mikael Skillt kidnapped by separatists
He was arrested last night outside the city Perevalsk in Luhansk!


FINALLY! Good job!
 Quoting: Falter


applause2applause2 schemingscheming

If true...
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
________________________________________________________​__________________
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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At the risk of sounding like a Russian shill or whatever but why not wait to get to the bottom of this to make sure it was really the Russians or the Russian rebels in Ukraine? I mean really stop the knee jerk EU and US it could have been the Ukrainian government for all we know. I mean once all the evidence is in we can go from there and decide intent and whether we should sanction or not. But until then wait till the all the facts or not...
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US Director of National Intelligence will speak later today on their evidence that militia took down plane

EDIT: Pff unbolded because of old news.

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Not a single response from #Kiev or #US on #Russian #MH17 radar evidence shown yesterday that i saw. No further admission of guilt is needed.

CNN...silent.

FOX...silent.

CNBC...silent.

BBC...silent.

100% admission of guilt from Britain and the US.
 Quoting: PIR


They'd never break a story like this, which tells everyone that everything they've been told so far, might be wrong.

But, in the UK at least, protests against BBC bias are growing:

[link to stopwar.org.uk]

But most people in the UK have no idea this is happening (because they get their daily 5 minute dose of "news" from the BBC).
 Quoting: henrykamens


Exactly. I posted a comment in an English newspaper (the Express) giving a link about the Ukranian jet followng the downed plane. It was up for about five minutes then removed, as were any comments which didn't go along with the anti-Russian propaganda.

Today the UK is starting an inquiry into the death of a Russian spy a couple of years back. Why bring this up now?
 Quoting: Tess2012

So what if the Ukrainan plane guarded MH17?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58282033


It didn't though, did it? Poroshenko quite categorically denied that there were ANY Ukrainian military planes in the sky at the time of the crash:

Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko denied the Russian Defense Ministry’s statement that a Ukrainian plane was allegedly flying along with the Malaysian Boeing-777 passenger jetliner that crashed in eastern Ukraine on July 17.

"Everyone knows that all Ukrainian planes were on the ground several kilometres away (from the crash site) at the time of the accident" Poroshenko told CNN on Monday.

[link to en.itar-tass.com]
 Quoting: CNN via ITAR-TASS


But one was... the Russians showed their evidence for that.

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Which is true :


Kerry
Bodies was thrown by drunk rebels on trucks and driven away in unknown direction

Dutch investigating team
Bodies are in good shape considering the military situation in area. Rebels did a good job securing the bodies.


anyone?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59284360


Kerry and Obama appear to be telling lies?

listen for yourself...

This was posted in this thread on page 4860

(English) Michael Bociurkiw. UCMC, 20th of July 2014

OSCE testimony

Listen to what this UN inspector who is on the ground at the crash site had to report.

(English) Michael Bociurkiw. UCMC, 20th of July 2014

OSCE testimony



Then AFTER this testimony from this United States UN observer there at the crash site the president of the US claimed to the world on live TV just the opposite.

What the UN inspector reported to the UN and what the president say are totally opposite!

So you tell me who is telling lies?

The president many HOURS AFTER the UN report:


 Quoting: PIR


Post corrected...UCMC...not USMC
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At the risk of sounding like a Russian shill or whatever but why not wait to get to the bottom of this to make sure it was really the Russians or the Russian rebels in Ukraine? I mean really stop the knee jerk EU and US it could have been the Ukrainian government for all we know. I mean once all the evidence is in we can go from there and decide intent and whether we should sanction or not. But until then wait till the all the facts or not...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37847058


All the evidence that is needed, is on the US satellite data, and the Ukrainian flight control recordings.

Where are they ????
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The Ukrainian army's attack on western #Donetsk yesterday was a devastating disaster
3 dead troops still on the scene

oops2 schemingscheming
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________________________________________________________​__________________
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Russia pulling troops from Transbaikal & Far Eastern military districts close to the border with Ukraine [link to mediarnbo.org]
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China has the East looked after
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Cold war 2.0, here we go.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57271883


only now it's: the West (NWO) against BRICS
.
 Quoting: Cats88


Well I doubt Brazil, and probably also India and South Africa, would want to be allied with China and Russia against USA and EU. India and China are no friends, South Africa and Brazil get all their money from the West.
 Quoting: Midlight


But CUBA is a friend of the Ruskies, and they have a lot of money ...
In an other article it was mentioned that India [govt and a lot of people] sees Rukia as their best friend and trusted ally.

This was said by a minister from India who was on an other plane in the area at the time MH17 was attacked.

Japan is in on the BRICS also.



xxxK
 Quoting: Krispy71



Add Germany, France and whole of South America
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RT @RT_com · 1 min

Ashton: Sanctions will target Russian capital markets, defense, energy sectors [link to on.rt.com]


 Quoting: Luisport


Well, judging from Putin's latest statement;

This is going to turn into war by years end. No way Russia is going to sit by without some kind of response. From that point they'll go spiraling down with each raising the stakes and not back off.
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Ryskeldi Satke ‏@RyskeldiSatke 2 hod.
Russia pulling troops from Transbaikal & Far Eastern military districts close to the border with Ukraine [link to mediarnbo.org]
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


China has the East looked after
 Quoting: Anderson_G


i should think so, since Russia and China have an iron-clad alliance.
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At the risk of sounding like a Russian shill or whatever but why not wait to get to the bottom of this to make sure it was really the Russians or the Russian rebels in Ukraine? I mean really stop the knee jerk EU and US it could have been the Ukrainian government for all we know. I mean once all the evidence is in we can go from there and decide intent and whether we should sanction or not. But until then wait till the all the facts or not...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37847058



Shame on you for questioning the pure motives of the EU/US in jumping to a conclusion before the facts are all in and examined. Don't you know facts are merely an inconvenient obstruction that one must circumvent in order to get to YOUR desired conclusion? (sarc)
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#Ukraine Photos from UA army 79th brigade that ignore orders and break out from encirclement. Many wounded.
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Ryskeldi Satke ‏@RyskeldiSatke 2 hod.
Russia pulling troops from Transbaikal & Far Eastern military districts close to the border with Ukraine [link to mediarnbo.org]
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


China has the East looked after
 Quoting: Anderson_G


i should think so, since Russia and China have an iron-clad alliance.
.
 Quoting: Cats88


They are using Each other... If a better opportunity opens, neither will think twice about breaking it off, and back stabbing the other.
For Now they have a common goal, the take down of the US. Once that's done, a conflict between them will break out.
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marqs ‏@MarQs__ 1 min.
#Ukraine decided to mobilize an additional 15 combat and 44 combat-support units citing 'continued Russian aggression' - Kyiv Post

Still asskicked?
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
________________________________________________________​__________________
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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The Swede Mikael Skillt kidnapped by separatists
He was arrested last night outside the city Perevalsk in Luhansk!


FINALLY! Good job!
 Quoting: Falter


applause2applause2 schemingscheming

If true...
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


I really hope it's true!
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"In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason."
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-Napoleon Bonaparte

"Streets of Leningrad taught me one thing - if fight is inevitable, throw the first punch."
-Vladimir Putin

World War 3 prediction: Summer 2020.
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Ryskeldi Satke ‏@RyskeldiSatke 2 hod.
Russia pulling troops from Transbaikal & Far Eastern military districts close to the border with Ukraine [link to mediarnbo.org]
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


China has the East looked after
 Quoting: Anderson_G


i should think so, since Russia and China have an iron-clad alliance.
.
 Quoting: Cats88


They are using Each other... If a better opportunity opens, neither will think twice about breaking it off, and back stabbing the other.
For Now they have a common goal, the take down of the US. Once that's done, a conflict between them will break out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58057476


U.S. propagandist/disinformation agent.

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#Ukraine decided to mobilize an additional 15 combat and 44 combat-support units citing 'continued Russian aggression' - Kyiv Post

Still asskicked?
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Whats the size of combat support unit?
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Russia pulling troops from Transbaikal & Far Eastern military districts close to the border with Ukraine [link to mediarnbo.org]
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


China has the East looked after
 Quoting: Anderson_G


i should think so, since Russia and China have an iron-clad alliance.
.
 Quoting: Cats88


They are using Each other... If a better opportunity opens, neither will think twice about breaking it off, and back stabbing the other.
For Now they have a common goal, the take down of the US. Once that's done, a conflict between them will break out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58057476


Nope, they have lived next to each other for hundreds and hundreds of years and had suprisingly few conflicts in their history.
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China has the East looked after
 Quoting: Anderson_G


i should think so, since Russia and China have an iron-clad alliance.
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 Quoting: Cats88


They are using Each other... If a better opportunity opens, neither will think twice about breaking it off, and back stabbing the other.
For Now they have a common goal, the take down of the US. Once that's done, a conflict between them will break out.
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Nope, they have lived next to each other for hundreds and hundreds of years and had suprisingly few conflicts in their history.
 Quoting: Babay


they helped liberate Manchuria too
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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
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BRITISH FOREIGN SECRETARY HAMMOND SAYS BRITAIN WANTS 'CRONIES' AROUND PRESIDENT PUTIN TO BEAR THE PRESSURE OF SANCTIONS
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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
At the risk of sounding like a Russian shill or whatever but why not wait to get to the bottom of this to make sure it was really the Russians or the Russian rebels in Ukraine? I mean really stop the knee jerk EU and US it could have been the Ukrainian government for all we know. I mean once all the evidence is in we can go from there and decide intent and whether we should sanction or not. But until then wait till the all the facts or not...
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All the evidence that is needed, is on the US satellite data, and the Ukrainian flight control recordings.

Where are they ????
 Quoting: firinne


They can't just "release" that. They can't just blurt it all out and let the masses know that everything they've been led to believe - and get massively angry about - is wrong.

What would happen if everyone suddenly figured out that their leaders are simply people who want to live better lives and have more money that them, and that they really couldn't care less who dies - so long as it's not them.

We're at the tipping point - they MUST follow through with this and take control of Russia and its natural resources because that's the only option they see left on the table.
''Know what I learned from Rocky?'' said Jake LaMotta, a boyhood friend and reform-school mate of Graziano's. ''I learned you should be nice to people. He was a master at that. I had become bitter in later years from the way some people treated me, and I became like a recluse, a loner. I'd watch Rocky, and people was always comin' over to say hello. I learned that the good people overcome the bad.''





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