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henryk User ID: 2771636 Georgia 03/17/2014 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 agreed, and a war of rapid dominance over whatever territory they want to seize Very rapid. Sounds to me like the Russians will try to use Crimea to spread their arms around the South and East of Kiev, and maybe into Transnistria too. In the lead up to the Georgian conflict I was very mindful of the fact that the Russians said what they meant, once, and everything they said and did after that was in perfect alignment with what they'd previously said. They key points I've picked up this time around are that they will not stop until the political situation in Ukraine has been normalized - i.e. they will not allow those currently holding the reins in Kiev to remain in power. They other thing is what Mr Lavrov said a week or so back, about the situation in Crimea becoming contagious. As in Georgia, the West once again are being shown to be toothless lions. The Russians won't stop to ask permission to normalize the situation in Ukraine, they'll just do it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18709398 United States 03/17/2014 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 agreed, and a war of rapid dominance over whatever territory they want to seize Very rapid. Sounds to me like the Russians will try to use Crimea to spread their arms around the South and East of Kiev, and maybe into Transnistria too. In the lead up to the Georgian conflict I was very mindful of the fact that the Russians said what they meant, once, and everything they said and did after that was in perfect alignment with what they'd previously said. They key points I've picked up this time around are that they will not stop until the political situation in Ukraine has been normalized - i.e. they will not allow those currently holding the reins in Kiev to remain in power. They other thing is what Mr Lavrov said a week or so back, about the situation in Crimea becoming contagious. As in Georgia, the West once again are being shown to be toothless lions. The Russians won't stop to ask permission to normalize the situation in Ukraine, they'll just do it. I've been saying it since day one. Crimea is the launching point. They have to get it locked down before anything else. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 55734001 Italy 03/17/2014 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Reuters: Washington is considering #Ukraine's request for receiving military aid. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55734001 Washington is considering, Obama is monitoring, Putin is acting... Well, Putin uses the same language. He actually still considering a lot of things (crimea referendum, east-ukraine people request of aid, ecc) maybe tomorrow world will know his intentions. |
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User ID: 55738138 Sweden 03/17/2014 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Mike Giglio ‏@mike_giglio 3 min People get out of their cars to gawk at Ukrainian military equipment making its way through Donetsk tonight: pic.twitter.com/gNSJqdGnvs Loosing an illusion makes you wiser than finding a truth. ~Ludwig Börne Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it. ~Andre Gide Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw |
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User ID: 22884594 United States 03/17/2014 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Gulliver Cragg ‏@gullivercragg · 15m Quoting: Unit 88 Retired #Ukrainian Admiral Ihor Kabanenko tells me he believes Russia will attack the South and East simultaneously He also had this to say: Gulliver Cragg ‏@gullivercragg 3m #Ukraine Retired Admiral I. Kabanenko says he has intelligence that Russian 14th army in Transnistria, Moldova, is carrying out exercises. |
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User ID: 18308887 United Kingdom 03/17/2014 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Gulliver Cragg ‏@gullivercragg · 15m Quoting: Unit 88 Retired #Ukrainian Admiral Ihor Kabanenko tells me he believes Russia will attack the South and East simultaneously That would be double penetration of Ukraine? If Russia enters Ukraine sexually it will make Ukraine cream. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 49443815 Finland 03/17/2014 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Ukrainian government refuses to remove troops from Crimea, prepares for war [link to www.kyivpost.com] |
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User ID: 18308887 United Kingdom 03/17/2014 02:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Gulliver Cragg ‏@gullivercragg · 15m Quoting: Unit 88 Retired #Ukrainian Admiral Ihor Kabanenko tells me he believes Russia will attack the South and East simultaneously He also had this to say: Gulliver Cragg ‏@gullivercragg 3m #Ukraine Retired Admiral I. Kabanenko says he has intelligence that Russian 14th army in Transnistria, Moldova, is carrying out exercises. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 51451699 Romania 03/17/2014 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Reuters: Washington is considering #Ukraine's request for receiving military aid. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55734001 Washington is considering, Obama is monitoring, Putin is acting... We have NO MO money to give to other countries! You can give at least some weapons from your rusty stockpiles, because the sanctions are are too laughable... |
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User ID: 55738138 Sweden 03/17/2014 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Haha good luck with this one! Trying to get Kim to appear in court! [link to timesofindia.indiatimes.com] Loosing an illusion makes you wiser than finding a truth. ~Ludwig Börne Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it. ~Andre Gide Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55734001 Italy 03/17/2014 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 And here we go... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55734001 Russian President Putin has signed an order recognizing Crimea as a sovereign state, Russia's RIA Novosti new agency reports. Hours ago on BBC: Correspondents say the Kremlin may be planning to fast-track the annexation by officially recognising Crimea's independence, and then drafting a treaty to formalise its incorporation into Russia. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55734001 Italy 03/17/2014 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 And here we go... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55734001 Russian President Putin has signed an order recognizing Crimea as a sovereign state, Russia's RIA Novosti new agency reports. So that means no annexation? From BBC, 1 hour ago: Correspondents say the Kremlin may be planning to fast-track the annexation by officially recognising Crimea's independence, and then drafting a treaty to formalise its incorporation into Russia. |
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User ID: 55738138 Sweden 03/17/2014 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 max seddon ‏@maxseddon 19 min The Russian officials on this EU sanctions list are as far from Kremlin policymaking as I am from playing in the NBA [link to eur-lex.europa.eu] … Good.. Make the sanctions hurt! Loosing an illusion makes you wiser than finding a truth. ~Ludwig Börne Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it. ~Andre Gide Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18709398 United States 03/17/2014 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 And here we go... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55734001 Russian President Putin has signed an order recognizing Crimea as a sovereign state, Russia's RIA Novosti new agency reports. So that means no annexation? From BBC, 1 hour ago: Correspondents say the Kremlin may be planning to fast-track the annexation by officially recognising Crimea's independence, and then drafting a treaty to formalise its incorporation into Russia. gotcha. how fast could they get that treaty ready? |