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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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Reuters: Washington is considering #Ukraine's request for receiving military aid.
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Someone in the WH is waking up?
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Interfax Russia

22:08 Putin aide Surkov claims being proud to be on U.S. black list
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Russia is preparing for a high intensity war.
 Quoting: Unit 88


agreed, and a war of rapid dominance over whatever territory they want to seize
 Quoting: GodzillaReturns


Very rapid.

Sounds to me like the Russians will try to use Crimea to spread their arms around the South and East of Kiev, and maybe into Transnistria too.

In the lead up to the Georgian conflict I was very mindful of the fact that the Russians said what they meant, once, and everything they said and did after that was in perfect alignment with what they'd previously said.

They key points I've picked up this time around are that they will not stop until the political situation in Ukraine has been normalized - i.e. they will not allow those currently holding the reins in Kiev to remain in power. They other thing is what Mr Lavrov said a week or so back, about the situation in Crimea becoming contagious.

As in Georgia, the West once again are being shown to be toothless lions. The Russians won't stop to ask permission to normalize the situation in Ukraine, they'll just do it.
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ITV: The US is 'reviewing' a request from Ukraine for military aid; maintains focus is on diplomacy
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Diplomacy cruisecruisecruise
What a joke. Even our PM has more charisma...
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Interfax Russia

22:08 Putin aide Surkov claims being proud to be on U.S. black list

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cruise
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Reuters: Washington is considering #Ukraine's request for receiving military aid.
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Washington is considering, Obama is monitoring, Putin is acting...
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Russia is preparing for a high intensity war.
 Quoting: Unit 88


agreed, and a war of rapid dominance over whatever territory they want to seize
 Quoting: GodzillaReturns


Very rapid.

Sounds to me like the Russians will try to use Crimea to spread their arms around the South and East of Kiev, and maybe into Transnistria too.

In the lead up to the Georgian conflict I was very mindful of the fact that the Russians said what they meant, once, and everything they said and did after that was in perfect alignment with what they'd previously said.

They key points I've picked up this time around are that they will not stop until the political situation in Ukraine has been normalized - i.e. they will not allow those currently holding the reins in Kiev to remain in power. They other thing is what Mr Lavrov said a week or so back, about the situation in Crimea becoming contagious.

As in Georgia, the West once again are being shown to be toothless lions. The Russians won't stop to ask permission to normalize the situation in Ukraine, they'll just do it.
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I've been saying it since day one. Crimea is the launching point. They have to get it locked down before anything else.
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RT @gullivercragg: Retired #Ukrainian Admiral Ihor Kabanenko tells me he believes Russia will attack the South and East simultaneously
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RT @gullivercragg: Retired #Ukrainian Admiral Ihor Kabanenko tells me he believes Russia will attack the South and East simultaneously
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hiding
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Retired #Ukrainian Admiral Ihor Kabanenko tells me he believes Russia will attack the South and East simultaneously
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Reuters: Washington is considering #Ukraine's request for receiving military aid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55734001


Washington is considering, Obama is monitoring, Putin is acting...
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Well, Putin uses the same language. He actually still considering a lot of things (crimea referendum, east-ukraine people request of aid, ecc) maybe tomorrow world will know his intentions.
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No surprise here!!!

McCain Blasts Obama For 'Timid' Response to Russia

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BOMBS! MORE MOBS!!
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I need to post this one more time. Imagine Peter as McCain..


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haha

that was supposed to say MORE BOMBS. but 'mobs' will do banana2
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Mike Giglio ‏@mike_giglio 3 min

People get out of their cars to gawk at Ukrainian military equipment making its way through Donetsk tonight: pic.twitter.com/gNSJqdGnvs

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Reuters: Washington is considering #Ukraine's request for receiving military aid.
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Washington is considering, Obama is monitoring, Putin is acting...
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We have NO MO money to give to other countries!
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Gulliver Cragg ‏@gullivercragg · 15m
Retired #Ukrainian Admiral Ihor Kabanenko tells me he believes Russia will attack the South and East simultaneously

 Quoting: Unit 88


He also had this to say:

Gulliver Cragg ‏@gullivercragg 3m

#Ukraine Retired Admiral I. Kabanenko says he has intelligence that Russian 14th army in Transnistria, Moldova, is carrying out exercises.
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Remember too that the UK has challenged the Russian Air Force several times in the past few years when they violated UK airspace.

Testing our defences?
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Probably.
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Gulliver Cragg ‏@gullivercragg · 15m
Retired #Ukrainian Admiral Ihor Kabanenko tells me he believes Russia will attack the South and East simultaneously

 Quoting: Unit 88


That would be double penetration of Ukraine?
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Retired #Ukrainian Admiral Ihor Kabanenko tells me he believes Russia will attack the South and East simultaneously

 Quoting: Unit 88


That would be double penetration of Ukraine?
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If Russia enters Ukraine sexually it will make Ukraine cream.
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Ukrainian government refuses to remove troops from Crimea, prepares for war
[link to www.kyivpost.com]
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Euromaidan PR ‏@EuromaidanPR · 6 min
#Russia warns they will ask #Ukraine about 20 bln compensation [link to glavcom.ua] … |PR News


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Putin signs order on recognition of Crimea as sovereign state burnitburnitburnitburnit
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And here we go...

Russian President Putin has signed an order recognizing Crimea as a sovereign state, Russia's RIA Novosti new agency reports.
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Gulliver Cragg ‏@gullivercragg · 15m
Retired #Ukrainian Admiral Ihor Kabanenko tells me he believes Russia will attack the South and East simultaneously

 Quoting: Unit 88


He also had this to say:

Gulliver Cragg ‏@gullivercragg 3m

#Ukraine Retired Admiral I. Kabanenko says he has intelligence that Russian 14th army in Transnistria, Moldova, is carrying out exercises.
 Quoting: Newshunter


ltana
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And here we go...

Russian President Putin has signed an order recognizing Crimea as a sovereign state, Russia's RIA Novosti new agency reports.
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So that means no annexation?
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Reuters: Washington is considering #Ukraine's request for receiving military aid.
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Washington is considering, Obama is monitoring, Putin is acting...
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We have NO MO money to give to other countries!
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You can give at least some weapons from your rusty stockpiles, because the sanctions are are too laughable...
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In their hard-hitting report, the commissioners insisted North Korea's leaders should be brought before an international court for a litany of crimes against humanity.


Haha good luck with this one! Trying to get Kim to appear in court!

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And here we go...

Russian President Putin has signed an order recognizing Crimea as a sovereign state, Russia's RIA Novosti new agency reports.
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Hours ago on BBC:


Correspondents say the Kremlin may be planning to fast-track the annexation by officially recognising Crimea's independence, and then drafting a treaty to formalise its incorporation into Russia.
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And here we go...

Russian President Putin has signed an order recognizing Crimea as a sovereign state, Russia's RIA Novosti new agency reports.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55734001


So that means no annexation?
 Quoting: BioReaper


From BBC, 1 hour ago:

Correspondents say the Kremlin may be planning to fast-track the annexation by officially recognising Crimea's independence, and then drafting a treaty to formalise its incorporation into Russia.
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max seddon ‏@maxseddon 19 min

The Russian officials on this EU sanctions list are as far from Kremlin policymaking as I am from playing in the NBA [link to eur-lex.europa.eu] …


Good.. Make the sanctions hurt!
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And here we go...

Russian President Putin has signed an order recognizing Crimea as a sovereign state, Russia's RIA Novosti new agency reports.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55734001


So that means no annexation?
 Quoting: BioReaper


From BBC, 1 hour ago:

Correspondents say the Kremlin may be planning to fast-track the annexation by officially recognising Crimea's independence, and then drafting a treaty to formalise its incorporation into Russia.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55734001


gotcha. how fast could they get that treaty ready?





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