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Anonymous Coward User ID: 57956675 United Kingdom 05/12/2014 01:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Not unrelated... Amazing democracy at work. France and germany are to block expats voting in syrian election. They know assad is going to win and are trying to stop people from voting |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1342798 United States 05/12/2014 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 BREAKING: #Lugansk People\\\'s Republic proclaims independence from #Ukraine following referendum Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1342798 [link to twitter.com (secure)] I don\'t see this being as peaceful as crimea was Right you are .. . Kiev\'s \"murderous junta\" has already killed more than 300 pecaeful citizens in Ukraine, Yanukovych said. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 57983640 Germany 05/12/2014 01:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ATO in #Luhansk & #Donetsk won’t be suspended until terrorists stop terrorizing the regions - minister Avakov Quoting: tmorais [link to interfax.com.ua] :campsjsr: Why minister Avakov threatening to foreign country? cause he is a slut. no respect! peace |
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User ID: 44465073 Estonia 05/12/2014 01:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Pierre Crom ‏@PierreCrom 22s Artillerie shooting from #sloviansk to unknown destination, no one responding #ukraine #slavyansk "The master understands that the universe is always out of control". -Lao Tzu The 5th Dimension principal of harmony reveals that supporting others creates strength. The lower dimension mind believes that acquiring or taking from others makes you stronger. Yet, as you can imagine, if all people desire to "take" from others, the fabric of the reality tears itself apart. If you want to start prospering and growing stronger,start focusing on supporting others. If you want to start prospering and growing stronger, focus on supporting others where you can. Give to others that cross YOUR PATH and you soon discover you will be given more. The 5th Dimension principal of harmony means that you will always have an abundance to do a good work. |
Unit 88
User ID: 57544050 United Kingdom 05/12/2014 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 A team of NATO specialists will examine logistics in Ukraine and the possibility of providing logistical support country army Quoting: tmorais [link to russian.rt.com] what is logistical support? Movement of forces, equipment, supplies etc |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57577261 United States 05/12/2014 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 A team of NATO specialists will examine logistics in Ukraine and the possibility of providing logistical support country army Quoting: tmorais [link to russian.rt.com] what is logistical support? Probably anything short of weapons IMO. Could be a euphemism for weapons but I think they want Russia to go first on that one. Another pretext for the sanctions they are going to impose anyway. |
tmorais
User ID: 53485785 Brazil 05/12/2014 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 A team of NATO specialists will examine logistics in Ukraine and the possibility of providing logistical support country army Quoting: tmorais [link to russian.rt.com] what is logistical support? I guess first step is an intensive course of propaganda. Next is one month of how to set up a false flag appropriately. And finishing with: drone killing with class. |
Unit 88
User ID: 57544050 United Kingdom 05/12/2014 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 A team of NATO specialists will examine logistics in Ukraine and the possibility of providing logistical support country army Quoting: tmorais [link to russian.rt.com] what is logistical support? Movement of forces, equipment, supplies etc but no weapons right? Yep no weapons |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 57988549 Germany 05/12/2014 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 I hope Erdogan do not hear this! We have a few million turkish people living here. Germany has so much Turkish people that Merkel should call for autonomy for ethnic Germans within Germanys borders. ps. sorry flagged your post red accidently I know many of them, most are ok, but the "teenies" are terrible (some other nations also). But a few years ago I found out that none of my friends was german and every new one since then too. (My forefathers came from France(!), "Hugenotten", 300 years ago, and I am not really integrated yet, maybe that's the reason?) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 17991796 United States 05/12/2014 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 A team of NATO specialists will examine logistics in Ukraine and the possibility of providing logistical support country army Quoting: tmorais [link to russian.rt.com] what is logistical support? I guess first step is an intensive course of propaganda. Next is one month of how to set up a false flag appropriately. And finishing with: drone killing with class. You post this, yet you call for any non pro-Russian propagandist to be banned for posting anything similar (and they are!) |
tmorais
User ID: 53485785 Brazil 05/12/2014 01:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Interior Minister Arsen Avakov announces the withdrawal of the National Guard and Armed Forces of Mariupol [link to lb.ua] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57956675 United Kingdom 05/12/2014 01:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Whatever happened to pussy riots? Remember them? They were being hyped against putin by opposition groups in russia funded by western money. Right now with Putins popularity at highest, nither pussy riots or opposition would dare act as before. Putin won't have to do anything. Ordinary people would tear them apart |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57495179 United States 05/12/2014 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Any election with electronic voting cannot be seen as legitimate. Quoting: PIR Electronic voting can be rigged. So can paper ballots, if leaflets dropped were ballots. I am following one of the guys on the ground there @lukeharding1968. On twitter, they are currently dropping leaflets in the cities according to him. Quoting: AC |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55493132 United States 05/12/2014 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 OH Please there is NO Mystery to what is going to Happen both sides are choosing up sides to start killing each other both the EU and Russia are using the Ukrainians has fools to fight for then the Russians and the EU don't give a S**T about the Ukrainians, Russian and the EU will send in weapons and SF has quote advisers to exterminate the Ukraine Peoples form there land so that the EU and Russia can claim the resources. East Ukraine and Kiev are getting played for the suckers there are for believing that the West or the East care one little bite about the Ukrainian Peoples The Ukrainian people are useful Idiots for both Russia and the EU. Once the Russians and the EU get done with the Ukraine it is going to look like a Dung heap. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 57412144 Russia 05/12/2014 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Fact: Over 3 million people voted to leave Ukraine and become an independent republic. Votes were cast in a peaceful manner. Quoting: PIR Fact: 0 (zero) people voted for the current leaders in Kiev and power was taken by violence with the use of fire, clubs and guns. 3 out of 7 million in the area? I'm not sure of the number in the region, someone mentioned it about 100 pages back. Population of Donetsk region is 4,4 milion people, about 3,3 million have voting rights. Population of Lugansk region is 2,3 million people, 1,7 million people have voting rights. More than 70% are voted. More than 90% voted for indepedence. |
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User ID: 57649864 Ukraine 05/12/2014 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 young russian facsists [link to www.russiansymbol.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 49462378 United States 05/12/2014 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 My take: Quoting: The_Original_Mind 1) Russia won't invade UA any time soon. 2) Russia WILL support the resistance in East UA, whether it's a pro-Russian resistance or a Right Sector resistance. Anything that destabilizes UA. 3) UA's failure to deal with the revolt using small-scale means (i.e. what they're doing now) will force UA to deploy significant forces to quell the revolt. 4) Hence, Russia will draw UA into a bitter and messy battle in the east, similarly drawing UA's attention and logistics into that region. It's a basic chess stategy: encourage the enemy to commit to a particular region of the board using your pawns, while arranging your key pieces for a later strike. 5) Increased UA army deployment will (i) encourage more uprisings, (ii) encourage more defections. 6) At this point, expect increased domestic strife in West UA. 7) With UA focused on the east and destabilized by riots in the west, expect a trigger event. This could be as simple as the UN refusing to deploy peacekeeping forces, as dramatic as a bombing of a civilian target. < WE MAY BE HERE 8) Russia will then launch the CLASSIC Zhukov Maneuver: A pincer attack from Crimea and Senkovka, tracing a line along the Dnieper. Russia will then advance into East UA toward Kharkiv and Donetsk, with paratroopers seizing key stations in the eastern region, including taking operational command of militia forces, particularly in Sloviansk and Mariupol. The objective will be, therefore, threefold: (i) secure the Dnieper; (ii) secure the key communication, transportation, and logistical spots in the east; (iii) encircle Kiev. These three objectives, if achieved, will render UA unable to fight without Western support. 9) Expect small-scale special forces operations to seize Odessa and possibly link up with Moldova. Timeline? Maybe a couple of weeks to 3 months from now to begin. By July, the US will be deep into its political campaigning season. Also, the later Russia can start their attack, the less time the West will have to retaliate, due to the advent of autumn rains and winter snow in the region. Importantly, Putin doesn't want to overplay his hand. He has Crimea. But he could lose it if he isn't careful. He is patient, but decisive like the chess master he is. He has a plan, and when conditions are such that he can implement it, he will. He's playing an emotional game right now, banking (successfully) on the frustration and hesitation of the Ukrainians to undermine their own nascent state. |
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User ID: 22884594 United States 05/12/2014 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Pierre Crom @PierreCrom · 16m Artillerie shooting from #sloviansk to unknown destination, no one responding #ukraine #slavyansk Euromaidan PR @EuromaidanPR · 4m BREAKING Shootout is heard near #Sloviansk TV tower. Battle in progress again @vasilymaximov | EMPR News #Ukraine #Donetsk #terrorism |
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