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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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As for bodies here in #Mariupol, several well-informed local sources have now told me they were 'taken and dumped in the woods'.
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WHAT

and did they vote

or being dragged off to be hung!!!

Explain
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Not unrelated...
Amazing democracy at work.
France and germany are to block expats voting in syrian election.

They know assad is going to win and are trying to stop people from voting
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BREAKING: #Lugansk People\\\'s Republic proclaims independence from #Ukraine following referendum

[link to twitter.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1342798


I don\'t see this being as peaceful as crimea was
 Quoting: Anderson_G


Right you are .. .

Kiev\'s \"murderous junta\" has already killed more than 300 pecaeful citizens in Ukraine, Yanukovych said.
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Does anybody seriously see a happy ending in all this? What are we expecting to happen? Just cant figure out the outcome...hmm
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WW3 is the goal

.
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ATO in #Luhansk & #Donetsk won’t be suspended until terrorists stop terrorizing the regions - minister Avakov

[link to interfax.com.ua]

:campsjsr:
 Quoting: tmorais


Why minister Avakov threatening to foreign country?

xxxcitewtflol
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cause he is a slut.

no respect! peace
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Does anybody seriously see a happy ending in all this? What are we expecting to happen? Just cant figure out the outcome...hmm
 Quoting: Leonesse

WW3 is the goal

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57982071


No ww3
Simpley western mob rule coming to an end.
No one will be allowed to start ww3
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Artillerie shooting from #sloviansk to unknown destination, no one responding #ukraine #slavyansk

"The master understands that the universe is always out of control".
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The 5th Dimension principal of harmony reveals that supporting others creates strength. The lower dimension mind believes that acquiring or taking from others makes you stronger. Yet, as you can imagine, if all people desire to "take" from others, the fabric of the reality tears itself apart.
If you want to start prospering and growing stronger,start focusing on supporting others.

If you want to start prospering and growing stronger, focus on supporting others where you can. Give to others that cross YOUR PATH and you soon discover you will be given more. The 5th Dimension principal of harmony means that you will always have an abundance to do a good work.
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A team of NATO specialists will examine logistics in Ukraine and the possibility of providing logistical support country army

[link to russian.rt.com]
 Quoting: tmorais


what is logistical support?
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Movement of forces, equipment, supplies etc
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A team of NATO specialists will examine logistics in Ukraine and the possibility of providing logistical support country army

[link to russian.rt.com]
 Quoting: tmorais


what is logistical support?
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Probably anything short of weapons IMO. Could be a euphemism for weapons but I think they want Russia to go first on that one. Another pretext for the sanctions they are going to impose anyway.
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A team of NATO specialists will examine logistics in Ukraine and the possibility of providing logistical support country army

[link to russian.rt.com]
 Quoting: tmorais


what is logistical support?
 Quoting: NotZuckerberg


I guess first step is an intensive course of propaganda. Next is one month of how to set up a false flag appropriately. And finishing with: drone killing with class.
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A team of NATO specialists will examine logistics in Ukraine and the possibility of providing logistical support country army

[link to russian.rt.com]
 Quoting: tmorais


what is logistical support?
 Quoting: NotZuckerberg


Movement of forces, equipment, supplies etc
 Quoting: Unit 88


but no weapons right?
 Quoting: NotZuckerberg


Yep no weapons
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Russia wants to ban the hryvnia in Crimea from June 1

[link to tsn.ua]
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Weapons cost money. Weapons get captured when in the hands of troops with no stomach for fighting. Real question is how many "advisors" it involves.
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Orban calls for autonomy for ethnic Hungarians beyond borders.

hiding
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I hope Erdogan do not hear this! We have a few million turkish people living here.
cool2

scared
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Germany has so much Turkish people that Merkel should call for autonomy for ethnic Germans within Germanys borders.

cruise




ps. sorry flagged your post red accidently
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I know many of them, most are ok, but the "teenies" are terrible (some other nations also). But a few years ago I found out that none of my friends was german and every new one since then too.

(My forefathers came from France(!), "Hugenotten", 300 years ago, and I am not really integrated yet, maybe that's the reason?)

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@GrahamWP_UK 7s
More video inside #Mariupol police HQ, reportedly set on fire to conceal police officers killed on May 9th

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They for sure were not on godlike production...now were they?
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A team of NATO specialists will examine logistics in Ukraine and the possibility of providing logistical support country army

[link to russian.rt.com]
 Quoting: tmorais


what is logistical support?
 Quoting: NotZuckerberg


I guess first step is an intensive course of propaganda. Next is one month of how to set up a false flag appropriately. And finishing with: drone killing with class.
 Quoting: tmorais


You post this, yet you call for any non pro-Russian propagandist to be banned for posting anything similar

(and they are!)
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Interior Minister Arsen Avakov announces the withdrawal of the National Guard and Armed Forces of Mariupol

[link to lb.ua]

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Whatever happened to pussy riots? Remember them?
They were being hyped against putin by opposition groups in russia funded by western money.
Right now with Putins popularity at highest, nither pussy riots or opposition would dare act as before.
Putin won't have to do anything. Ordinary people would tear them apart
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Any election with electronic voting cannot be seen as legitimate.

Electronic voting can be rigged.
 Quoting: PIR


So can paper ballots, if leaflets dropped were ballots.

I am following one of the guys on the ground there @lukeharding1968. On twitter, they are currently dropping leaflets in the cities according to him.
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OH Please there is NO Mystery to what is going to Happen both sides are choosing up sides to start killing each other
both the EU and Russia are using the Ukrainians has fools to fight for then the Russians and the EU don't give a S**T about the Ukrainians, Russian and the EU will send in weapons and SF has quote advisers to exterminate the Ukraine Peoples form there land so that the EU and Russia can claim the resources. East Ukraine and Kiev are getting
played for the suckers there are for believing that the West or the East care one little bite about the Ukrainian Peoples The Ukrainian people are useful Idiots for both Russia and the EU. Once the Russians and the EU get done with the Ukraine it is going to look like a Dung heap.
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Russia wants to ban the hryvnia in Crimea from June 1

[link to tsn.ua]
 Quoting: tmorais


Bang!

Like a BOSS!

yoda

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Alexander Marquardt @MarquardtA 2 min

Moscow: Need for “immediate” discussion on Ukraine’s fate w/ “all political forces and regions of the country.”

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Fact: Over 3 million people voted to leave Ukraine and become an independent republic. Votes were cast in a peaceful manner.

Fact: 0 (zero) people voted for the current leaders in Kiev and power was taken by violence with the use of fire, clubs and guns.
 Quoting: PIR


3 out of 7 million in the area? I'm not sure of the number in the region, someone mentioned it about 100 pages back.
 Quoting: pool


Population of Donetsk region is 4,4 milion people, about 3,3 million have voting rights. Population of Lugansk region is 2,3 million people, 1,7 million people have voting rights. More than 70% are voted. More than 90% voted for indepedence.
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Moscow (AFP) - Russia's state energy giant Gazprom warned on Monday that it may halt natural gas shipments to Ukraine on June 3 in a move that could impact the supplies of at least 18 EU nations
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Don't worry. World Cup is coming!

:popcorn1:
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Whether Ukraine recognizes it or not, from the point of view of Donetsk, Luhansk, and Russia, Ukraine is now engaged in a military conflict outside its own borders. Slaviansk and Mariupol are in Donetsk Oblast, and hence Ukraine is at war with a foreign, independent, and sovereign power. This could well be the trigger event Russia needs. If it is, I imagine that Russia would begin with a move into Donetsk and Luhansk, and then initiate full invasion later. It depends on how far Ukraine is willing to go with its continued operations in Donetsk Oblast.

My take:

1) Russia won't invade UA any time soon.

2) Russia WILL support the resistance in East UA, whether it's a pro-Russian resistance or a Right Sector resistance. Anything that destabilizes UA.

3) UA's failure to deal with the revolt using small-scale means (i.e. what they're doing now) will force UA to deploy significant forces to quell the revolt.

4) Hence, Russia will draw UA into a bitter and messy battle in the east, similarly drawing UA's attention and logistics into that region. It's a basic chess stategy: encourage the enemy to commit to a particular region of the board using your pawns, while arranging your key pieces for a later strike.

5) Increased UA army deployment will (i) encourage more uprisings, (ii) encourage more defections.

6) At this point, expect increased domestic strife in West UA.

7) With UA focused on the east and destabilized by riots in the west, expect a trigger event. This could be as simple as the UN refusing to deploy peacekeeping forces, as dramatic as a bombing of a civilian target.

< WE MAY BE HERE

8) Russia will then launch the CLASSIC Zhukov Maneuver: A pincer attack from Crimea and Senkovka, tracing a line along the Dnieper. Russia will then advance into East UA toward Kharkiv and Donetsk, with paratroopers seizing key stations in the eastern region, including taking operational command of militia forces, particularly in Sloviansk and Mariupol. The objective will be, therefore, threefold: (i) secure the Dnieper; (ii) secure the key communication, transportation, and logistical spots in the east; (iii) encircle Kiev. These three objectives, if achieved, will render UA unable to fight without Western support.

9) Expect small-scale special forces operations to seize Odessa and possibly link up with Moldova.

Timeline? Maybe a couple of weeks to 3 months from now to begin. By July, the US will be deep into its political campaigning season. Also, the later Russia can start their attack, the less time the West will have to retaliate, due to the advent of autumn rains and winter snow in the region. Importantly, Putin doesn't want to overplay his hand. He has Crimea. But he could lose it if he isn't careful. He is patient, but decisive like the chess master he is. He has a plan, and when conditions are such that he can implement it, he will. He's playing an emotional game right now, banking (successfully) on the frustration and hesitation of the Ukrainians to undermine their own nascent state.
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Interfax:

PUTIN, OSCE CHAIRPERSON DISCUSS UKRAINE, NOTE IMPORTANCE OF ESTABLISHING DIALOGUE BETWEEN KYIV AND SOUTHEASTERN UKRAINE - KREMLIN
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Artillerie shooting from #sloviansk to unknown destination,
no one responding #ukraine #slavyansk



Euromaidan PR @EuromaidanPR · 4m
BREAKING Shootout is heard near #Sloviansk TV tower.
Battle in progress again @vasilymaximov
| EMPR News #Ukraine #Donetsk #terrorism
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Yep no weapons
 Quoting: Unit 88


The most recent activity was targeting radar equipment.
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