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messi17
User ID: 60137636 France 07/13/2014 12:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 RT @RT_com · 33 seg URGENT: Putin, Merkel agree situation in #Ukraine worsening, urge ceasefire [link to on.rt.com] :putler: man |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57118211 United States 07/13/2014 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 RT @RT_com · 33 seg URGENT: Putin, Merkel agree situation in #Ukraine worsening, urge ceasefire [link to on.rt.com] Russia should IMPOSE a ceasefire at this point. All Russian statement have come from officials below the top rank thus far. Deputy Foreign Minister primarily. Nothing directly from Lavrov or Putin. This means Russia is getting its diplomatic situation in order before going public with a definitive response. Makes sense. |
Falter
User ID: 58276109 Sweden 07/13/2014 12:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Reports and Comments‏@strelkov_info 13 min 13/07/14. 19:55 Posted by Staff militia. / / Militia repulsed a tank attack on Lugansk without allowing breakthrough .. "When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die." -Jean Paul Sartre "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason." -Ernest Hemingway "China is a sleeping giant, Let her sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world." -Napoleon Bonaparte "Streets of Leningrad taught me one thing - if fight is inevitable, throw the first punch." -Vladimir Putin World War 3 prediction: Summer 2020. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54016678 United States 07/13/2014 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 you and that IDIOTIC asshole you quoted are both stupid. Former Congressman Ernest Istook (R-Oklahoma) has a plan to deal with tens of thousands of illegal immigrants who have arrived on the southern border in recent weeks: Fly them home. More importantly, he said this can be achieved for 99.5% less than the $3.8 billion that President Barack Obama is asking for to house 30,000 illegal aliens for a year. [link to www.ijreview.com] but then again, I suppose you support the ongoing nazi genocide huh? The last time I checked, the only "Nazi" government on this planet was defeated in the year 1945 which is when the so-called genocide was halted. In fact, even the so-called "victims" of that Nazi "Genocide" refer to it as a "Holocaust" which means "a religious offering." In return for their "offering" a certain people were given someone Else's land on which to build their own "state" of Israel, in spite of the fact that "Israel" of the Bible are a people and NOT a state; but that's a different topic. I know of no other Nazi government anywhere in the world committing any genocide. Of course, if you are referring to President Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe who is actively genociding white farmers and thereby setting his country up to starve to death, you'd have to show me he is actually a Nazi for your remark to be valid. soo.. lemme get this straight. you are posting to this thread and advocating genocide of (subhuman) Russians and Mexicans when at the same time the nazis in Ukraine are kissing the butts of Jews like Soros and Nuland? alrighty then! Wow! That remark demonstrates a severe reading comprehension problem on your part. I did not advocate the genocide of Russian or Mexicans. I outlined a simple strategy for Ukraine to defend its territory from incursion of Russian Armour. Someone Else posted that my suggested plan was crap. Another person posted that we (America) should test my approach on our own Border with Mexico and I said I would support my government if it chose such a path regarding those invading the US. YOU barged-in and starting hurling accusations of Nazi genocide. Quit whatever drugs you're using, sober up and try reading through again. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27797357 Poland 07/13/2014 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Share this video... let your friends know the truth. It speaks more than 1000 words - no nationalist fanatic would be able to dismiss it. It is a genocide taking place in Europe, folks! Obama and the criminals in the Democrat party are hoping that you will see their fake concern for the mentally retarded illegals and criminals they are smuggling across the border... So that they can falsely claim to be helping... While you ignore the genocide that they sponsor in Ukraine. The US border "crisis" is a Hollywood media distraction to hide US sponsored genocides on 4 continents. Really horrible people run America. What worries me the most is that the GOP seems even more hawkish on the issue... Let's settle: both parties are freaks and thugs while the third party gets isolated. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3886841 Canada 07/13/2014 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 #Sadovy: each day bodies of killed natives arrive in #Lviv. This morning's unconfirmed- 5military from Lviv killed in #ATO zone|EMPR #Ukraine More proof that Banderites from the west are being sent to kill people in the east. Disgusting! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42928983 United States 07/13/2014 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Even in former Yugoslav republics, I do not think they have a single one which is flightworthy. Thay do have them on display in museums though :) Lol North Korea still uses them. They are upgraded with 1970's avionics/missiles tho. So they would not be useless perhaps serve as good decoys or CAP aircraft |
Falter
User ID: 58276109 Sweden 07/13/2014 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 AJSB ‏@A_J_S_B 2 min NEWS FLASH: NAF forces makes a #Ukraine tank attack to #Luhansk retreat. "When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die." -Jean Paul Sartre "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason." -Ernest Hemingway "China is a sleeping giant, Let her sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world." -Napoleon Bonaparte "Streets of Leningrad taught me one thing - if fight is inevitable, throw the first punch." -Vladimir Putin World War 3 prediction: Summer 2020. |
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Falter
User ID: 58276109 Sweden 07/13/2014 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 AJSB ‏@A_J_S_B 11 s I REPEAT: As up to this EXACT MOMENT, There ISN'T EVEN ONE SINGLE T-90 in Ukraine be it controlled by whoever , Russia, NAF or Ukraine. "When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die." -Jean Paul Sartre "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason." -Ernest Hemingway "China is a sleeping giant, Let her sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world." -Napoleon Bonaparte "Streets of Leningrad taught me one thing - if fight is inevitable, throw the first punch." -Vladimir Putin World War 3 prediction: Summer 2020. |
RelentlessDespot
Abrasive Fuck User ID: 58713017 United States 07/13/2014 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 For OP/ R2 unit: R2, look into why the US is baiting Russia into Ukraine. It is not because Russia would lose to NATO in a conventional war -- it is because Russia know that US/ NAZI mercenaries will blow the pipelines up under the guise of invasion, and therefore cut off Russia's ability to transit gas to Europe this winter and hurt Gazprom. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60193139 WARNING WARNING WARNING R2 is the only bot i like here. This could well be the case, but they have a long time to wait to do it for maximum effect. Say November or December.. Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me. Or something |
RelentlessDespot
Abrasive Fuck User ID: 58713017 United States 07/13/2014 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Like I thought. No invasion but another massive reinforcments wave. This time tanks replaced APC's Quoting: Matjaz Donbass Militia is nothing more than a front for Russia. Equipment like that?? Ukraine can't win this no matter what they do. That's the bottom line. I don't think it's about winning. I think it's about prolonging and entrenching Russia so the US/NATO are free to run amok in other areas... Syria, and Iran to name a couple. Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me. Or something |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42928983 United States 07/13/2014 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Like I thought. No invasion but another massive reinforcments wave. This time tanks replaced APC's Quoting: Matjaz Donbass Militia is nothing more than a front for Russia. Equipment like that?? Ukraine can't win this no matter what they do. That's the bottom line. Yes they can and they will I assue you. That Militia is making its last stand on the Russian border after the defeat of Slaviansk. Ukraine is better equipped/Trained force. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57118211 United States 07/13/2014 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Like I thought. No invasion but another massive reinforcments wave. This time tanks replaced APC's Quoting: Matjaz Donbass Militia is nothing more than a front for Russia. Equipment like that?? The important point is how many countries have become desensitized to the situation at this point. Of course one could argue that it is theoretically possible that all this equipment is captured from Ukraine but I doubt that even Russian supporters believe that any more. The main thing is that things have gone this far without any consensus that truly isolates Russia and supports stiff sanctions. The only real questions now involve what an objective assessment of the military situation on the ground would conclude. Is there a stable standoff? Is Kiev slowly winning? Is the militia gaining the initiative? No way to deduce this from public statements and the situation is likely fluid to some extent anyway. the loser has the most incentive to escalate though. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 60189950 Croatia 07/13/2014 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Even in former Yugoslav republics, I do not think they have a single one which is flightworthy. Thay do have them on display in museums though :) Lol North Korea still uses them. They are upgraded with 1970's avionics/missiles tho. So they would not be useless perhaps serve as good decoys or CAP aircraft Yugoslavia never had Mig-15. In late 50s and early 60s, Yugoslavia had US built fighters, F-86 Sabre, F-100 Super Sabre, F-80 Thunderjet. First Migs were Mig-21. BTW, YU was newer part of Warsaw pact. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 42928983 United States 07/13/2014 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Even in former Yugoslav republics, I do not think they have a single one which is flightworthy. Thay do have them on display in museums though :) Lol North Korea still uses them. They are upgraded with 1970's avionics/missiles tho. So they would not be useless perhaps serve as good decoys or CAP aircraft Yugoslavia never had Mig-15. In late 50s and early 60s, Yugoslavia had US built fighters, F-86 Sabre, F-100 Super Sabre, F-80 Thunderjet. First Migs were Mig-21. BTW, YU was newer part of Warsaw pact. No it was not part of the Warsaw Pact but Tito definately had alliances with the Warsaw Pact. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 60189950 Croatia 07/13/2014 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: N.O.S. (nli) 60192365 Even in former Yugoslav republics, I do not think they have a single one which is flightworthy. Thay do have them on display in museums though :) Lol North Korea still uses them. They are upgraded with 1970's avionics/missiles tho. So they would not be useless perhaps serve as good decoys or CAP aircraft Yugoslavia never had Mig-15. In late 50s and early 60s, Yugoslavia had US built fighters, F-86 Sabre, F-100 Super Sabre, F-80 Thunderjet. First Migs were Mig-21. BTW, YU was newer part of Warsaw pact. No it was not part of the Warsaw Pact but Tito definately had alliances with the Warsaw Pact. Tito had deals with both the west and the east at the same time. And no alliances, ever heard of Non-Aligned Movement? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 60194291 Croatia 07/13/2014 12:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 The Russians are intentionally hitting civilian residences to further create the false pretext for war. They have been doing it for months and it continues. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55340581 The Russians have brought Grad MLRS, tanks, mortar launchers, artillery, and all sorts of other weapons into Ukraine. These are being used to attack and terrorize and kill the people, and to create pro-war propaganda for Russian state media. Since it continues even now, It is clear that Putin still has invasion and annexation of further Ukrainian territory planned. I have no doubt that there is influx of gear and men into Ukraine from Russia. But i believe it's on low level, maybe some powerful oligarchs organizes this. Putin sure doesn't mind that, this will only speed up intervention. Hell, half of the separatist don't even have proper boots but run around in sneakers, cheap ebay uniforms and old soviet gear... I have ten times better gear then 80% of those separatists. Military hardware? Sure, some of it from Russia, most taken from surrender UKR military installations... When you see those separatist in same ripstop uniforms, kevlar vests, 300USD boots, same insignia - then have fear... That is the moment real support came. This all looks like insurgency in Iraq and Afghanistan, but slowly they are organizing. Unfortunately what Kiev doesn't understand is that you cannot expel 4 mil people in 2 months operation. If they had any brain they would sit and talk instead of sending military and destroying whole country. You simply cannot crush the will of the people, sure you can occupy and wage war, but if you want long-term stability and peace then you talk! Except if you deliberately want to start war with Russia and believe NATO will protect you... Maybe they will, but what if they don't? |
KneelB4Zod!
User ID: 22992427 Czechia 07/13/2014 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Babay ‏@Truth_Seeker_11 19 min. Near #Snezhnoe a militia ambush destroyed an advancing army convoy destroying 27 out of 30 vehicles, yet officially only 7 victims reported “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
KneelB4Zod!
User ID: 22992427 Czechia 07/13/2014 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Babay ‏@Truth_Seeker_11 13 min. #Lugansk authorities distributed 350 grenade launchers to the civilian pop. for self defense via @tohub “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 55340581 Ukraine 07/13/2014 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 The Russians are intentionally hitting civilian residences to further create the false pretext for war. They have been doing it for months and it continues. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55340581 The Russians have brought Grad MLRS, tanks, mortar launchers, artillery, and all sorts of other weapons into Ukraine. These are being used to attack and terrorize and kill the people, and to create pro-war propaganda for Russian state media. Since it continues even now, It is clear that Putin still has invasion and annexation of further Ukrainian territory planned. I have no doubt that there is influx of gear and men into Ukraine from Russia. But i believe it's on low level, maybe some powerful oligarchs organizes this. Putin sure doesn't mind that, this will only speed up intervention. Hell, half of the separatist don't even have proper boots but run around in sneakers, cheap ebay uniforms and old soviet gear... I have ten times better gear then 80% of those separatists. Military hardware? Sure, some of it from Russia, most taken from surrender UKR military installations... When you see those separatist in same ripstop uniforms, kevlar vests, 300USD boots, same insignia - then have fear... That is the moment real support came. This all looks like insurgency in Iraq and Afghanistan, but slowly they are organizing. Unfortunately what Kiev doesn't understand is that you cannot expel 4 mil people in 2 months operation. If they had any brain they would sit and talk instead of sending military and destroying whole country. You simply cannot crush the will of the people, sure you can occupy and wage war, but if you want long-term stability and peace then you talk! Except if you deliberately want to start war with Russia and believe NATO will protect you... Maybe they will, but what if they don't? The 'will of the people' is for these Russian/Chechnyan/Ossetian terrorists to be gone. There is very little popular support for them. AT MOST 10% of Donbas supports this Russian invasion, and only because they pull for Russia at all costs including lies and death. Remember - Ukrainian military has zero reason to hit civilian residences and they KNOW it is not to be done at all costs. However, the Russians have all the reason in the world to do it - and they are doing it - and they are using it to their advantage in their propaganda when they do it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47013071 Egypt 07/13/2014 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Point is you can almost shoot down US apache even with AK-47. Just look at this. Quoting: abraka_dabraka Apache Pilot Shot By AK-47 An Apache pilot is hit by a VERY lucky round fire from a Taliban fighter's AK-47. The pilot made a full recovery, but 18 of the Taliban fighters did not. Read more at [link to www.liveleak.com] [link to www.liveleak.com] [liveleak] [link to www.liveleak.com] Christ, if your getting shot at by an Apache don't run away play dead. It's your only chance. How do you play dead infront of thermal cam? Be cool..LOL |
KneelB4Zod!
User ID: 22992427 Czechia 07/13/2014 01:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 And of course no nazis in Ukraine. No, never. Imposibru! [link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)] Slava Ukraini! Gerojim Svalva! Last Edited by KneelB4Zod! on 07/13/2014 01:00 PM “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |