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#Romania|n troops heading to #Ukraine borders.. #Russia #US #EU
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Russians should not fuck with Polish army or they will get their dicks arrested on the spot!
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They shouldn't mess with the Romanian army either, we will demoralize them with our Mig-21s from 1959 that fall out of the skies by themselves !

The Russians won't know what hit them, literally ! cool2
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The Dutch navy will send both our canoes! That will teach them!
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Those aren't canoes there clogs.
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Russian and Ukrainian armies shaping up for initial military clash over Slavyansk.

[link to www.debka.com]
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Russians should not fuck with Polish army or they will get their dicks arrested on the spot!
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They shouldn't mess with the Romanian army either, we will demoralize them with our Mig-21s from 1959 that fall out of the skies by themselves !

The Russians won't know what hit them, literally ! cool2
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The Dutch navy will send both our canoes! That will teach them!
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It must be difficult carrying a canoe on a bicycle.
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Russians should not fuck with Polish army or they will get their dicks arrested on the spot!
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They shouldn't mess with the Romanian army either, we will demoralize them with our Mig-21s from 1959 that fall out of the skies by themselves !

The Russians won't know what hit them, literally ! cool2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57413600


The Dutch navy will send both our canoes! That will teach them!
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Those aren't canoes there clogs.
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No, the clogs are in use for shipping mariuhana.
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10 pages til doom GLPers!!!
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4.6 EQ in Russia Far East
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Good to see black humour whatever the origin...have to laugh at some of this insane shit or you would go mad
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That kind of attitude is key to surviving on GLP and keep some control of your mental faculties ! :)
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Totally true. And that post made me laugh too, I needed that one.
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Just goes to show we can ALL laugh at the same things...only the labels have divided us..
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You are all right you know..

peace
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If they have the tech to make a US Navy ship dead in the water (allegedly), they may well have the tech to knock past-generation systems designed and built by themselves
 Quoting: Was Anonymous


Sorry this is long but this info is critically important....

As someone with intimate knowledge of the SPY, Aegis System, ACS, AWS, I can say with complete certainty that there is no system in existence that can "jam" or "spoof" it. Im not talking out my ass here. It isnt possible. Our B-2 and F-22 "may" not be able to spoof it either, wink wink, and those two are the worlds best RCS avoidance platforms.

The Aegis is three dimensional, muti-phasing radar with highly advanced frequency hopping. The hopping is random and it "hops" a hundred times a second. The radar itself puts out SO much radiation you can direct SPY onto a bird and fry the bastard in midair.

Don't know if there are any other knowledgable folks out there, but if so they'll certainly agree that in order to "jam" something, you have to know what frequency it's operating on, and its not possible when the freq randomly changes at almost light speed.

That being said, the Chinese do have a new Anti-ship missile, and probably also the Russians, that they "say" is radiation proof. If that were actually true, which is possible but not likely, it would render SPY unable to lock on, which could be described as "Aegis is jammed" only by an idiot.

It's highly, highly unlikely anti-radiation missles exist outside the US sophisticated enough to deflect the SPY's massive amount of radiation. It requires very expensive, cutting edge electronics which China and Russia simply don't have access to because 1. we are the only ones that can make them, and 2. China and Russia have to buy much much less sophisticated electronics from other countries because they can't make anything above that threshold.

Who knows what all the really have for SURE though? They are both 10 years behind the tech required for this, but Israel could do it. Maybe Taiwan. They are both allies though.

Bottom line, if anyone can spoof SPY with an advanced anti-radiation seeker head, which I doubt, then the game has truly changed. To an unbelievable degree.
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well I did say allegedly... cool2
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This is the crux of the AEGIS system realization of its capabilities. Allegedly.

Aegis Combat System
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

RIM-161 Standard Missile 3
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Operation and performance
At that point the third stage separates, and the Lightweight Exo-Atmospheric Projectile (LEAP) kinetic warhead (KW) begins to search for the target using pointing data from the launching ship. The Aerojet throttleable divert and attitude control system (TDACS) allows the kinetic warhead to maneuver in the final phase of the engagement. The KW's sensors identify the target, attempt to identify the most lethal part of the target and steers the KW to that point. If the KW intercepts the target, it provides 130 megajoules (96,000,000 ft·lbf, 31 kg TNT equivalent) of kinetic energy at the point of impact.[8]
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Excuse me but I call a BULLSHIT on that one.
It doesn't happen.
US NAVY just Bullshits the whole world with propaganda.
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Its real. Theyve been working on anti-ballistic missile/anti-satellite weapons for decades now and have an effective system now.

They even demonstrated the ability in the well known indicent when they hit and disintegrated the USA 193 satellite over the Pacific Ocean in 2008 -

wiki article about it-
[link to en.wikipedia.org]


[link to www.youtube.com]



This was a well-known event that was watched live and verified by people and governments all over the planet, including right here at GLP.
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Seems like another slow news night. But on the other hand we will hit page 3000 very soon. Congrats OP!
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Yes, or maybe we should say condolences to the OP for having to put so much time and work into it. chuckle
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10 pages til doom GLPers!!!
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tomorrow's a new moon
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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
17 Oct 2000: While operating in the Sea of Japan Kitty Hawk was overflown by a pair of Russian aircraft, allegedly a Sukhoi Su-24 Fencer and Su-27 Flanker. The overflight purportedly surprised the ship, which failed to launch her alert aircraft in time to intercept the inbound Russians, due to communications errors.
[link to www.history.navy.mil]

"communications errors"?
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The Kitty Hawk was commissioned in the late 50's bro. It's the oldest carrier in the world. Many of its systems have been upgraded over the years, but not all, and the radar can't be. It uses an SPQ type of radar that is extremely outdated and ineffective. If any carrier could be snuck up on, it's that one.

Funny thing is, it has Aegis equipped escorts, usually, that provide look-over-the-horizon capability, giving the 'Hawk plenty of time to shoot fighters off.

Sounds like either the 'Hawk and destroyer(Aegis radar) had some mix up, or the 'Hawk's crew fucked up the scramble sequence. Both possible, but not very likely.

Communication error, as trumped up as that sounds, is actually the very best explanation for this, using Occams razor and my personal experience on 60 yr old ships. The comms systems are old, wiring is old. Sometimes when ringing an extension it just rings and rings in your ear but not on the other end, and it only takes moments, bro, Flankers are awful fast. You miss the window and you're swimming in vampires(multiple inbounds).

One thing IS certain, however. Those "ballsy" Flanker drivers clearly weren't TOO ballsy because they obviously made damned sure all their ECM was off, active/passive radar off, threat detection, all electronic systems were obviously shut down.

That doesn't mean they were "trying" to buzz the carrier undetected(they knew she had Aegis escorts, there is no mistaking that radar). What it means is that the Flankers made damn sure they were not emmiting radiation near the surface contacts. Washing a contact, most especially an Aegis Arleigh Burke Destroyer, with ANY kind of radiation is the golden rule of no-no's, unless you want to find out if your shark repellent works or not.

Anyway, she's retired now. Replace by the supercarrier JFK i think. Sorry so long. Complicated subject.
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Seems like another slow news night. But on the other hand we will hit page 3000 very soon. Congrats OP!
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Yes, or maybe we should say condolences to the OP for having to put so much time and work into it. chuckle
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What ever you do DON'T CLICK ON THE VIEW ALL BUTTON especially on a smart phone!
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That's the only real Doom in this thread so far! chuckle
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Romania and the United States is currently conducting a joint military exercise on the border of "collapsing" Ukraine.

-Swedish news
"When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die."
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Romania and the United States is currently conducting a joint military exercise on the border of "collapsing" Ukraine.

-Swedish news
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Looks like a busy week coming up.
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That kind of attitude is key to surviving on GLP and keep some control of your mental faculties ! :)
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Totally true. And that post made me laugh too, I needed that one.
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Just goes to show we can ALL laugh at the same things...only the labels have divided us..
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You are all right you know..

peace
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I have personal friends in many countries...I could never imagine fighting them because some corrupt controlled puppet said so...I would not fight for this country..not knowing what controls it...it was different for my father he fought the Germans..no choice..wonder how he would have felt knowing WHO funded the Nazi's...
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I'm signing of for today. I wish you all a good night!
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#Putin desperately trying to provoke war with #Ukraine & west to justify his own existence. Time to eliminate him b4 he fucks up the world



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Russian and Ukrainian armies shaping up for initial military clash over Slavyansk.

[link to www.debka.com]
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Good read, especially the end where it talks about how Obama is facing an uphill battle and may very well end in embarrassment.
RAGE
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Russians should not fuck with Polish army or they will get their dicks arrested on the spot!
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They shouldn't mess with the Romanian army either, we will demoralize them with our Mig-21s from 1959 that fall out of the skies by themselves !

The Russians won't know what hit them, literally ! cool2
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The Dutch navy will send both our canoes! That will teach them!
 Quoting: Windmill


Those aren't canoes there clogs.
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So we argentines when ruskies nukes UK will invade Malvinas with Canoas and attack the inbreed british that lives there with bows and arrows.
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I'm signing of for today. I wish you all a good night!
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Night..going to watch MOTD on iplayer and be a sheeple for a while too
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They shouldn't mess with the Romanian army either, we will demoralize them with our Mig-21s from 1959 that fall out of the skies by themselves !

The Russians won't know what hit them, literally ! cool2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57413600


The Dutch navy will send both our canoes! That will teach them!
 Quoting: Windmill


Those aren't canoes there clogs.
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So we argentines when ruskies nukes UK will invade Malvinas with Canoas and attack the inbreed british that lives there with bows and arrows.
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I had never even heard of the Falklands until that shit happened...got Thatcher re elected..flag waving muppets
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Russians should not fuck with Polish army or they will get their dicks arrested on the spot!
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They shouldn't mess with the Romanian army either, we will demoralize them with our Mig-21s from 1959 that fall out of the skies by themselves !

The Russians won't know what hit them, literally ! cool2
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Yeah, count Croatia in that fray too! We're sure to defeat Russians with our mighty Mig-21! When they see us coming, they'll laugh so hard they'll crash their planes. Long live NATO ant its aviation rockonrockon
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I accept the invitation of Transnistrians to celebrate the Victory Day in Tiraspol. Unlike Kiev they'll have a military parade there
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Russians should not fuck with Polish army or they will get their dicks arrested on the spot!
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They shouldn't mess with the Romanian army either, we will demoralize them with our Mig-21s from 1959 that fall out of the skies by themselves !

The Russians won't know what hit them, literally ! cool2
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The Dutch navy will send both our canoes! That will teach them!
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Love your sense of humor !!!! I needed that "belly laugh".

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Russians should not fuck with Polish army or they will get their dicks arrested on the spot!
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They shouldn't mess with the Romanian army either, we will demoralize them with our Mig-21s from 1959 that fall out of the skies by themselves !

The Russians won't know what hit them, literally ! cool2
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The Dutch navy will send both our canoes! That will teach them!
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Put more gay people there
They demoralize our troops
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@AkiHeikkinen1 25s
Russian military medics formed to units and told get ready for Ukraine deployment.

“This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.” General Wesley Clark
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It's not news unless a 7.5 or above :)
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@AkiHeikkinen1 25s
Russian military medics formed to units and told get ready for Ukraine deployment.

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@RightSector
Right Sector formed to units and told to get ready for deployment to Moscow.





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