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"There's no food in Crimea. Prices very high" sais Kievan sources...

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Prices are in rubles. Most expensive object on the photo is peach. 50 rubles per kilogram. That's like 1,46 USD. Is it high to you?
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It twice as cheap as in US.
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Well, obviously Tamonten is vegetarian and for him this stuff is enough. Besides, speaking about cost you both sham stupid - try to recalculate everything based on actual income of population and then come back.

An absence of crowd usual on markets this time of the season says either there are no buyers-turists and no money with residents, or this photo is fake.

BTW, peaches are from Turkey.
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If Ukraine seriously invades Crimea invades Crimea it will be stopped promptly with as much force as needed.
If that turns into an escalation it will be stopped with overkill forces and with prejudice.
If it escalates greatly it will be stopped with a nuclear weapons strike if that is what it takes to stop the invasion.
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


This is correct.

I read a lot about Russian military strategy (as well as other nations).

They will not meet forces invading with equal response power. They will over run with as much force needed to end it ASAP.

Time, war is like a disease. The faster you can stop it, the better chances for peace to hold.

Using one nuke now instead of escalation towards all nukes later is a serious consideration by any sovereign nation defending itself.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


That could be seen in Georgia-Russia war. The 5th day Russian responded and Georgian army wich until then was winning big victories in the north, turned into rash retreat-more like unorganized run to the capital. Russians used vastly exaggerated force. They came b4 Tbilisi in 24 hours and stopped 5 miles infront of it. And then turned back home.

They did show Georgians that they could crushed them like a bug but instead spared them. A gesture that in the past was never offered to Russias enemies...therefore showed great mercy and civilised attitude.
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Gregor Peter @L0gg0l · 1 min

LOUD EXPLOSION HEARD IN JERUSALEM -- WITNESSES

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If Ukraine seriously invades Crimea invades Crimea it will be stopped promptly with as much force as needed.
If that turns into an escalation it will be stopped with overkill forces and with prejudice.
If it escalates greatly it will be stopped with a nuclear weapons strike if that is what it takes to stop the invasion.
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


This is correct.

I read a lot about Russian military strategy (as well as other nations).

They will not meet forces invading with equal response power. They will over run with as much force needed to end it ASAP.

Time, war is like a disease. The faster you can stop it, the better chances for peace to hold.

Using one nuke now instead of escalation towards all nukes later is a serious consideration by any sovereign nation defending itself.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


That could be seen in Georgia-Russia war. The 5th day Russian responded and Georgian army wich until then was winning big victories in the north, turned into rash retreat-more like unorganized run to the capital. Russians used vastly exaggerated force. They came b4 Tbilisi in 24 hours and stopped 5 miles infront of it. And then turned back home.

They did show Georgians that they could crushed them like a bug but instead spared them. A gesture that in the past was never offered to Russias enemies...therefore showed great mercy and civilised attitude.
 Quoting: Matjaz


I remember....and Crimea was armed with some heavy stuff. It would be a multi-front war for Ukraine....suicide and they know it.
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Gregor Peter @L0gg0l · 1 min

LOUD EXPLOSION HEARD IN JERUSALEM -- WITNESSES

 Quoting: Luisport

 Quoting: Luisport


hmmm.......I wonder just how loud...large it was!

Jerusalem is not the city people should be bombing right now.

All we need is the Rock in Mecca to be bombed and we have a holy war brewing.
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Going all-in? RT @advdesk: *UKRAINE FORCES LAUNCH 'ALL-OUT ATTACK' WEST OF DONESTK: AFP
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Going all-in? RT @advdesk: *UKRAINE FORCES LAUNCH 'ALL-OUT ATTACK' WEST OF DONESTK: AFP
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Going all-in? RT @advdesk: *UKRAINE FORCES LAUNCH 'ALL-OUT ATTACK' WEST OF DONESTK: AFP
 Quoting: Falter


If this is true, it seems it is time for Russia to squash the bug!

Let's see just how long this really lasts.
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Russian Market @russian_market · 1 min

#BREAKING: Merkel spokesman says U.S. intelligence official at U.S. embassy in Berlin has been asked to leave the country.

- Raus!
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Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l 32 s
Going all-in? RT @advdesk: *UKRAINE FORCES LAUNCH 'ALL-OUT ATTACK' WEST OF DONESTK: AFP
 Quoting: Falter


If this is true, it seems it is time for Russia to squash the bug!

Let's see just how long this really lasts.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


Heh, what does all out attack 'west of Donetsk' mean? It should be all out attack on Donetsk or it isn't really all out attack.
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poroshenko wont let go of crimea, despite referendum and all. Just to please his ego.
russia has to do something about this then, which calls the Nato up plan. It will be a horrible mess
verysad
 Quoting: °Lucy°
Why are You sad? Any strike of Ukies on Crimea means end of Nazi Ukraine.
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"Any strike" is probably a bit of an overstatement.
But if, for example a whole tank battalion were to cross the border into Crimea then Kiev would be turned into something resembling Berlin in 1945.

Russia will be very reluctant to hit back, but if it does hit back it will be maximum effort. Tens of thousands of bombing sorties.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish


No matter what position you take on Crimea, it is the continuing claims and threats against what Russia (and others) see as Russian territory that forms the basis for Russia to respond using the self-defense rights accorded it under the UN Charter. At that point it is then purely a matter of power and nothing else.

There is precedent for pre-emptive action under the right of self-defense and the extent of the perceived threat can now be quite large from Russia's perspective, especially given the apparent mismatch in capabilities between Ukraine by itself and Russia. Under the circumstances and given the western rhetoric it is possible to imagine Russia responding to a perceived threat from NATO.

That is exactly why the danger of WWIII still looms in this crisis.
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Russian Market @russian_market · 1 min

#BREAKING: Merkel spokesman says U.S. intelligence official at U.S. embassy in Berlin has been asked to leave the country.

- Raus!

 Quoting: Luisport


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Putin took too small a bite when he took Crimea.

The maidan should have been chased all the way back to Switzerland and London.
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hesright
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Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l 32 s
Going all-in? RT @advdesk: *UKRAINE FORCES LAUNCH 'ALL-OUT ATTACK' WEST OF DONESTK: AFP
 Quoting: Falter


If this is true, it seems it is time for Russia to squash the bug!

Let's see just how long this really lasts.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


Heh, what does all out attack 'west of Donetsk' mean? It should be all out attack on Donetsk or it isn't really all out attack.
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Há you are here again! I let you post here, but you have to be respectful on your comments. I never be disrespectful with you, so i don't deserve your nasty comments!
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Russian Market @russian_market · 1 min

#BREAKING: Merkel spokesman says U.S. intelligence official at U.S. embassy in Berlin has been asked to leave the country.

- Raus!

 Quoting: Luisport


Germany spied on the Chinese diplomats visiting Greece through the Mercedes they supplied, yet they don't like the same medicine.

lol
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Gregor Peter @L0gg0l · 1 min

LOUD EXPLOSION HEARD IN JERUSALEM -- WITNESSES

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 Quoting: Luisport


firework sized rocket no doubt. its all HAMAS has.
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Vagelis Karmiros ‏@VagelisKarmiros · 8 min.
#Ukraine Huge explosions recorder in #Rovensky,near #Donetsk #Donbas [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] …

 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!

Is there anything more known about this event in Rovenky / Rovensky?
It's truly huge whatever it is.
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Don't look now Lavrov.. CIA coming for you!
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Kveldulf ‏@Kveldulf5 · 49m
#Ukraine has the right to reclaim #Crimea & #US & #UK have an obligation to support #Ukrainian territorial integrity.
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Not Really!!!
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Don't look now Lavrov.. CIA coming for you!
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Today Donestk... Tomorrow Crimea... Next day Moscow.
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Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l 32 s
Going all-in? RT @advdesk: *UKRAINE FORCES LAUNCH 'ALL-OUT ATTACK' WEST OF DONESTK: AFP
 Quoting: Falter


If this is true, it seems it is time for Russia to squash the bug!

Let's see just how long this really lasts.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


Heh, what does all out attack 'west of Donetsk' mean? It should be all out attack on Donetsk or it isn't really all out attack.
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Há you are here again! I let you post here, but you have to be respectful on your comments. I never be disrespectful with you, so i don't deserve your nasty comments!
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fair enough
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ConflictReporter @MiddleEast_BRK · 1 h

#Yaaawn ... "The border with Russia is not fully controlled by the security forces." - NSDC spox Andrei Lysenko.


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"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
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"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Russia’s top 60 lies about Ukraine

[link to www.examiner.com]
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I bet they are true!
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Russia’s top 60 lies about Ukraine

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I just read that article before I came here.

This is how propaganda works, you "anti-NWO" Russian shills.
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It's called a propaganda war.
Both sides are pumping out propaganda.
"When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die."
-Jean Paul Sartre

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-Ernest Hemingway

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It's called a propaganda war.
Both sides are pumping out propaganda.
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Honestly tho, I think the Western campaign in the Ukraine is way overblown, yes they have some agenda there but in reality this is mostly just Russian aggression vs Ukraine and it's nationalists.
I mean at least 90% of info we have on this comes from the Russian propaganda machine. The west is more busy at the moment funding ISIS.
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Vagelis Karmiros ‏@VagelisKarmiros · 8 min.
#Ukraine Huge explosions recorder in #Rovensky,near #Donetsk #Donbas [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] …

 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!

Is there anything more known about this event in Rovenky / Rovensky?
It's truly huge whatever it is.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish


it's a mine. Ukies say there was a militia base there, but sounds like nonsense as usual. Probably scorched earth policy, destruction of industry and infrastructure.
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Steiner ‏@Steiner1776 · 1 min 
#Strelkov: "Self Defense attacked #Donetsk airport with artillery No losses on our side. #Kiev regime suffered heavy losses via @tohub


Rock Solid Politics ‏@BradCabana · 6 min. 
3 hrs now fight at #Donetsk airport,NAF wants to take it. Smoke above. Reinforc. on land are impossible, all approaches are mined” #cdnpoli


South Front ‏@southfronteng · 7 min.
#Donetsk airport [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] …


 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Good stuff! I hope they take it b4 UA army comes if they are not allready in the area. Good thinkin on mining the aproaches...they'll have to fight through it.
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It's called a propaganda war.
Both sides are pumping out propaganda.
 Quoting: Falter



Honestly tho, I think the Western campaign in the Ukraine is way overblown, yes they have some agenda there but in reality this is mostly just Russian aggression vs Ukraine and it's nationalists.
I mean at least 90% of info we have on this comes from the Russian propaganda machine. The west is more busy at the moment funding ISIS.
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There is a lot of propaganda coming from west aswell.
All you have to do is watch twitter/mainstream news for evidence.

My point being.
This is a propaganda war, we all know that both sides uses their own tools to get to people.

So I don't get the point why people, including you. Have to post pointless posts about it.
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-Napoleon Bonaparte

"Streets of Leningrad taught me one thing - if fight is inevitable, throw the first punch."
-Vladimir Putin

World War 3 prediction: Summer 2020.
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France, Germany urge Putin to steer rebels towards negotiation after Ukrainian soldiers killed.
"When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die."
-Jean Paul Sartre

"In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason."
-Ernest Hemingway

"China is a sleeping giant, Let her sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world."
-Napoleon Bonaparte

"Streets of Leningrad taught me one thing - if fight is inevitable, throw the first punch."
-Vladimir Putin

World War 3 prediction: Summer 2020.





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