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User ID: 40750810 Sweden 09/29/2014 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Spetsnaz? That's some old fat guy. Get saved wretch: [link to biblebelievers.com] Everything you need to know about islam: [link to prophetofdoom.net] The Jihad Triangle: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] FRANCE IS TEH GHEY! |
Tpotleoz
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Tamonten
User ID: 34754802 Russia 09/29/2014 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 And what does it prove? [link to marshbrosok.ru] - shirt and pants [link to molotok.ru] - chevrons etc. Alltogether around 100 USD. 1 minute of my time to find it. Last Edited by Tamonten on 09/29/2014 02:19 PM "When every one is dead the Great Game is finished. Not before." - Rudyard Kipling, "Kim" (1901) "But we are still alive." - Thread: "The Great Game" by Mikhail Leontyev (2007-2008) "Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination." - Brandon Sanderson, "The Way of Kings" "Russia is the great Christian country with rich Islamic history" - Vladimir Solovyov (Russian Jew) Quos Iupiter perdere vult, dementat. "Europe can wait while the Russian tsar fishes." - Alexander III The Peacemaker Thread: I'm Russian – ask me a question. Be it about Russia or a personal one. Thread: From Rus' to Russia - grand concert on the Red Square, June 12th 2015 - please help with translation! Remember that future is always proceeded by its shadows. |
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FormerlyBritish
User ID: 60582120 United States 09/29/2014 01:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Ukrainians want to completely return to a more pure pre-communist heritage which is what any self respecting Russian should also want. Quoting: Tpotleoz Russians would not want it, no thank you. Nas k torzhestvu vedyot still means something to them, even without communism. But the Ukrainians are certainly headed back to what their (then pieces of) country looked like before the arrival of Lenin and Communism in 1917. The source of all this shit up to today. Looks like the russian is still mindfucked by the jewish chant of yesteryear! Well, it may be fashionable to blame Russia for every problem. Just as it was, and still is in some quarters, fashionable to blame Communism. My guess is that, right now today, if you held an informal poll in Ukraine and asked people "What is the worst thing that ever happened to Ukriane?" - an answer that would rank pretty high would be "Poroshenko". And they would be right, (maybe after some wartime Quislings). It is hard to see how Poroshenko could have acted to make things much worse. Making important decision of state by rolling dice would on average have produced a better result. Last Edited by FormerlyBritish on 09/29/2014 01:50 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 61313369 United States 09/29/2014 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 NATOSource ‏@NATOSource · 5m .@dw_english: Bulk of Germany's air force currently grounded. Only 42 of 109 Eurofighters currently ready for service [link to www.atlanticcouncil.org] … NATOSource ‏@NATOSource · 7m Germany MoD #vonderLeyen: "we are currently below the target figures... we would want to make available to NATO" [link to www.atlanticcouncil.org] … NATOSource ‏@NATOSource · 10m Defense Minister: Germany Unable to Meet NATO Commitments #vonderLeyen #Article5 [link to www.atlanticcouncil.org] … [link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)] NATOSource ‏@NATOSource · 1m Readiness problem: Only 38 of Germany's 89 Tornado fighters can to take to the skies. #NATO [link to www.atlanticcouncil.org] … [link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)] WOW I guess Germany spent to much money on Oktoberfest |
Tpotleoz
User ID: 63413537 Australia 09/29/2014 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Ukrainians want to completely return to a more pure pre-communist heritage which is what any self respecting Russian should also want. Quoting: Tpotleoz Russians would not want it, no thank you. Nas k torzhestvu vedyot still means something to them, even without communism. But the Ukrainians are certainly headed back to what their (then pieces of) country looked like before the arrival of Lenin and Communism in 1917. The source of all this shit up to today. Looks like the russian is still mindfucked by the jewish chant of yesteryear! Well, it may be fashionable to blame Russia for every problem. Just as it was, and still is in some quarters, fashionable to blame Communism. My guess is that, right now today, if you held an informal poll in Ukraine and asked people "What is the worst thing that ever happened to Ukriane?" - an answer that would rank pretty high would be "Poroshenko". And they would be right, (maybe after some wartime Quislings). It is hard to see how Poroshenko could have acted to make things much worse. Making important decision of state by rolling dice would on average have produced a better result. I agree in a way. But Poro is more of a symptom than a cause. There was no way that this could have happened without bloodshed. On one hand the inevitability of the Russian response to Maidan was obvious, as was the impotence of the West in actually securing Ukrainian sovereignty. So this has to be terminal naivete by Ukrainian leadership or more likely deception by neocons of an illusory NATO intervention, so that sanctions could be implemented on Russia. I actually would like to see a powerful Russia free of zionist influence, but one that is cleansed of communist glorification and dual citizen oligarchs. Ukraine could have eventually been a partner with this type of Russian State, but would have required a cleansing also. Last Edited by Tpotleoz on 09/29/2014 02:13 PM Eat the Reds |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 61313369 United States 09/29/2014 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 NATOSource ‏@NATOSource · 1m Germany military: C-160 aircraft flying aid to Ebola-affected West Africa grounded on Gran Canaria, awaiting repairs [link to www.atlanticcouncil.org] … Pretty soon German TV well Report Birds don't Fly in Germany either they walk. |
Falter
User ID: 58276109 Sweden 09/29/2014 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Alexandru Cociorvei ‏@AlexandruC4 18 min BREAKING: MERKEL- "IF THE SITUATION IN UKR CONTINUES...WE WILL REEVALUATE THE ENERGETIC COOPERATION WITH RUSSIA" [link to www.mediafax.ro] Last Edited by Falter on 09/29/2014 02:29 PM "When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die." -Jean Paul Sartre "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason." -Ernest Hemingway "China is a sleeping giant, Let her sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world." -Napoleon Bonaparte "Streets of Leningrad taught me one thing - if fight is inevitable, throw the first punch." -Vladimir Putin World War 3 prediction: Summer 2020. |
FormerlyBritish
User ID: 60582120 United States 09/29/2014 02:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Alexandru Cociorvei ‏@AlexandruC4 18 min Quoting: Falter BREAKING: MERKEL- "IF THE SITUATION IN UKR CONTINUES...WE WILL REEVALUATE THE ENERGETIC COOPERATION WITH RUSSIA" [link to www.mediafax.ro] I wonder what she actually said. In German. Does that mean ENERGETIC - the energy industry? Or did she mean ENERGETIC - the opposite of lethargic? And of course, it is absurd to say "if the situation in UKR continues", it is as plain as day that it cannot possibly continue and will rapidly become much worse in several ways. Last Edited by FormerlyBritish on 09/29/2014 02:47 PM |
HistoryPHD
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HistoryPHD
User ID: 1372943 United States 09/29/2014 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Ukrainians want to completely return to a more pure pre-communist heritage which is what any self respecting Russian should also want. Quoting: Tpotleoz Russians would not want it, no thank you. Nas k torzhestvu vedyot still means something to them, even without communism. But the Ukrainians are certainly headed back to what their (then pieces of) country looked like before the arrival of Lenin and Communism in 1917. The source of all this shit up to today. Looks like the russian is still mindfucked by the jewish chant of yesteryear! Well, it may be fashionable to blame Russia for every problem. Just as it was, and still is in some quarters, fashionable to blame Communism. My guess is that, right now today, if you held an informal poll in Ukraine and asked people "What is the worst thing that ever happened to Ukriane?" - an answer that would rank pretty high would be "Poroshenko". And they would be right, (maybe after some wartime Quislings). It is hard to see how Poroshenko could have acted to make things much worse. Making important decision of state by rolling dice would on average have produced a better result. I second that. I just returned from Ukraine and its amazing how many people are aware of the Israel FIRST scenario. They all know that their new leadership are dual citizen Israelis and its really only a matter of time before they rise up against the oligarchs. HistoryPHD |
HistoryPHD
User ID: 1372943 United States 09/29/2014 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 The toppling of the Lenin statue is more a rebuke of Putin's Russia, than enmity for Lenin. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63391855 It is more that they do not like to be reminded of more prosperous times when Kiev was Soviet Union before independent Ukraine. Lenin founded the Ukraine republic for goodness sake! It would be like Americans toppling statues of George Washington because he supported slavery. Without Lenin's efforts there would be no Ukraine as such; they are saying that korenizatsiya was a bad thing. Lenin founded the Ukraine republic for goodness sake! This is the same opinion as the Ukrainian bourgeoisie of the time, according to Lenin: 'We do not favour the existence of small states. We stand for the closest union of the workers of the world against “their own” capitalists and those of all other countries. But for this union to be voluntary, the Russian worker, who does not for a moment trust The Russian or the Ukrainian bourgeoisie in anything, now stands for the right of the Ukrainians to secede, without imposing his friendship upon them, but striving to win their friendship by treating them as an equal, as an ally and brother in the struggle for socialism.' [link to www.marxists.org (secure)] The Status of ethnic Ukrainians was definitely better under Tsarist Russia hence the need to destroy the Ukrainian bourgeoisie by the NKVD. Communists were no friend of the educated Ukrainians. Yes, there were educated Ukrainians, but almost all were exterminated. The above article has notes that are quite specific: ' [1] The Ukrainian Central Rada (Council) was a counter-revolutionary bourgeois nationalist organisation founded in April 1917 at the All-Ukraine National Congress in Kiev by a bloc of Ukrainian bourgeois and petty-bourgeois nationalist parties and groups. M. S. Grushevsky, an ideologue of the Ukrainian bourgeoisie, was its chairman and V. K. Vinnichenko its vice-chairman. Among its members were Petlyura, Yefremov, Antonovich and other nationalists. Socially, the Rada relied for support on the urban and rural bourgeoisie, the kulaks, and the petty-bourgeois nationalist intellectuals. It tried to consolidate the power of the Ukrainian bourgeoisie and landowners and to establish a Ukrainian bourgeois state, taking advantage of the national liberation movement in the Ukraine. Under the guise of lighting for national independence, it strove to win the support of the Ukrainian people, divert thorn from the all-Russia revolutionary movement, bring thorn under the sway of the Ukrainian bourgeoisie, and prevent the victory of the socialist revolution in the Ukraine. The Rada supported the Provisional Government despite differences over the issue of granting autonomy to the Ukraine. Following the victory of the October Socialist Revolution the Rada declared itself the supreme organ of the “Ukrainian People’s Republic” and campaigned openly against Soviet rule. It was one of the principal centres of the counter-revolutionaries of the whole of Russia.' All in all today's Nationalist Russian should be thankfull to these Ukrainian Nationalists and their heritage because they were the one's who put up the biggest fight against Communism and still are with their toppling of the Lenin statue. Russians today still can't think of themselves as proud Russians without reference to some sort of communist or socialist glory. Ukrainians want to completely return to a more pure pre-communist heritage which is what any self respecting Russian should also want. Great points but you cannot return to a pre-communist heritage with dual citizen Israelis controlling the monetary supply. Who controls the Bolsheviks? The world oligarchy controls them and is unleashing the anarchy on everyone. Be wary. HistoryPHD |
HistoryPHD
User ID: 1372943 United States 09/29/2014 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 RIA Novosti ‏@ria_novosti 24 s Quoting: Falter MORE: #Russia launched case on genocide of Russian-speaking people in Donetsk and Luhansk [link to en.ria.ru] 'On July 24, 14 bodies were exhumed from a burial site in Sloviansk. The victims were civilians, all of whom are believed to have been killed by pro-Russia separatists when they were occupying the area. According to Ukrainian officials, there are roughly 300 people missing in Sloviansk, and mass and individual graves are consistently being found.' something about a Pandora's Box? Kremlin Using Katyn Strategy in Ukraine to Cover Its Own Crimes, Portnikov Says [link to www.interpretermag.com] Vice is owned by Ruppert Murdoch. Its just more ISraeli spin to foment war amongst the gentiles. HistoryPHD |
Tpotleoz
User ID: 63413537 Australia 09/29/2014 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 The toppling of the Lenin statue is more a rebuke of Putin's Russia, than enmity for Lenin. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63391855 It is more that they do not like to be reminded of more prosperous times when Kiev was Soviet Union before independent Ukraine. Lenin founded the Ukraine republic for goodness sake! It would be like Americans toppling statues of George Washington because he supported slavery. Without Lenin's efforts there would be no Ukraine as such; they are saying that korenizatsiya was a bad thing. Lenin founded the Ukraine republic for goodness sake! This is the same opinion as the Ukrainian bourgeoisie of the time, according to Lenin: 'We do not favour the existence of small states. We stand for the closest union of the workers of the world against “their own” capitalists and those of all other countries. But for this union to be voluntary, the Russian worker, who does not for a moment trust The Russian or the Ukrainian bourgeoisie in anything, now stands for the right of the Ukrainians to secede, without imposing his friendship upon them, but striving to win their friendship by treating them as an equal, as an ally and brother in the struggle for socialism.' [link to www.marxists.org (secure)] The Status of ethnic Ukrainians was definitely better under Tsarist Russia hence the need to destroy the Ukrainian bourgeoisie by the NKVD. Communists were no friend of the educated Ukrainians. Yes, there were educated Ukrainians, but almost all were exterminated. The above article has notes that are quite specific: ' [1] The Ukrainian Central Rada (Council) was a counter-revolutionary bourgeois nationalist organisation founded in April 1917 at the All-Ukraine National Congress in Kiev by a bloc of Ukrainian bourgeois and petty-bourgeois nationalist parties and groups. M. S. Grushevsky, an ideologue of the Ukrainian bourgeoisie, was its chairman and V. K. Vinnichenko its vice-chairman. Among its members were Petlyura, Yefremov, Antonovich and other nationalists. Socially, the Rada relied for support on the urban and rural bourgeoisie, the kulaks, and the petty-bourgeois nationalist intellectuals. It tried to consolidate the power of the Ukrainian bourgeoisie and landowners and to establish a Ukrainian bourgeois state, taking advantage of the national liberation movement in the Ukraine. Under the guise of lighting for national independence, it strove to win the support of the Ukrainian people, divert thorn from the all-Russia revolutionary movement, bring thorn under the sway of the Ukrainian bourgeoisie, and prevent the victory of the socialist revolution in the Ukraine. The Rada supported the Provisional Government despite differences over the issue of granting autonomy to the Ukraine. Following the victory of the October Socialist Revolution the Rada declared itself the supreme organ of the “Ukrainian People’s Republic” and campaigned openly against Soviet rule. It was one of the principal centres of the counter-revolutionaries of the whole of Russia.' All in all today's Nationalist Russian should be thankfull to these Ukrainian Nationalists and their heritage because they were the one's who put up the biggest fight against Communism and still are with their toppling of the Lenin statue. Russians today still can't think of themselves as proud Russians without reference to some sort of communist or socialist glory. Ukrainians want to completely return to a more pure pre-communist heritage which is what any self respecting Russian should also want. Great points but you cannot return to a pre-communist heritage with dual citizen Israelis controlling the monetary supply. Who controls the Bolsheviks? The world oligarchy controls them and is unleashing the anarchy on everyone. Be wary. Totally agree. Eat the Reds |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63403187 Nigeria 09/29/2014 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: FormerlyBritish Russians would not want it, no thank you. Nas k torzhestvu vedyot still means something to them, even without communism. But the Ukrainians are certainly headed back to what their (then pieces of) country looked like before the arrival of Lenin and Communism in 1917. The source of all this shit up to today. Looks like the russian is still mindfucked by the jewish chant of yesteryear! Well, it may be fashionable to blame Russia for every problem. Just as it was, and still is in some quarters, fashionable to blame Communism. My guess is that, right now today, if you held an informal poll in Ukraine and asked people "What is the worst thing that ever happened to Ukriane?" - an answer that would rank pretty high would be "Poroshenko". And they would be right, (maybe after some wartime Quislings). It is hard to see how Poroshenko could have acted to make things much worse. Making important decision of state by rolling dice would on average have produced a better result. I agree in a way. But Poro is more of a symptom than a cause. There was no way that this could have happened without bloodshed. On one hand the inevitability of the Russian response to Maidan was obvious, as was the impotence of the West in actually securing Ukrainian sovereignty. So this has to be terminal naivete by Ukrainian leadership or more likely deception by neocons of an illusory NATO intervention, so that sanctions could be implemented on Russia. I actually would like to see a powerful Russia free of zionist influence, but one that is cleansed of communist glorification and dual citizen oligarchs. Ukraine could have eventually been a partner with this type of Russian State, but would have required a cleansing also. According to Prophecies of Orthodox Fathers that will come after ww3 and Russia returning to Monarchy. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63403187 Nigeria 09/29/2014 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 The toppling of the Lenin statue is more a rebuke of Putin's Russia, than enmity for Lenin. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63391855 It is more that they do not like to be reminded of more prosperous times when Kiev was Soviet Union before independent Ukraine. Lenin founded the Ukraine republic for goodness sake! It would be like Americans toppling statues of George Washington because he supported slavery. Without Lenin's efforts there would be no Ukraine as such; they are saying that korenizatsiya was a bad thing. Lenin founded the Ukraine republic for goodness sake! This is the same opinion as the Ukrainian bourgeoisie of the time, according to Lenin: 'We do not favour the existence of small states. We stand for the closest union of the workers of the world against “their own” capitalists and those of all other countries. But for this union to be voluntary, the Russian worker, who does not for a moment trust The Russian or the Ukrainian bourgeoisie in anything, now stands for the right of the Ukrainians to secede, without imposing his friendship upon them, but striving to win their friendship by treating them as an equal, as an ally and brother in the struggle for socialism.' [link to www.marxists.org (secure)] The Status of ethnic Ukrainians was definitely better under Tsarist Russia hence the need to destroy the Ukrainian bourgeoisie by the NKVD. Communists were no friend of the educated Ukrainians. Yes, there were educated Ukrainians, but almost all were exterminated. The above article has notes that are quite specific: ' [1] The Ukrainian Central Rada (Council) was a counter-revolutionary bourgeois nationalist organisation founded in April 1917 at the All-Ukraine National Congress in Kiev by a bloc of Ukrainian bourgeois and petty-bourgeois nationalist parties and groups. M. S. Grushevsky, an ideologue of the Ukrainian bourgeoisie, was its chairman and V. K. Vinnichenko its vice-chairman. Among its members were Petlyura, Yefremov, Antonovich and other nationalists. Socially, the Rada relied for support on the urban and rural bourgeoisie, the kulaks, and the petty-bourgeois nationalist intellectuals. It tried to consolidate the power of the Ukrainian bourgeoisie and landowners and to establish a Ukrainian bourgeois state, taking advantage of the national liberation movement in the Ukraine. Under the guise of lighting for national independence, it strove to win the support of the Ukrainian people, divert thorn from the all-Russia revolutionary movement, bring thorn under the sway of the Ukrainian bourgeoisie, and prevent the victory of the socialist revolution in the Ukraine. The Rada supported the Provisional Government despite differences over the issue of granting autonomy to the Ukraine. Following the victory of the October Socialist Revolution the Rada declared itself the supreme organ of the “Ukrainian People’s Republic” and campaigned openly against Soviet rule. It was one of the principal centres of the counter-revolutionaries of the whole of Russia.' All in all today's Nationalist Russian should be thankfull to these Ukrainian Nationalists and their heritage because they were the one's who put up the biggest fight against Communism and still are with their toppling of the Lenin statue. Russians today still can't think of themselves as proud Russians without reference to some sort of communist or socialist glory. Ukrainians want to completely return to a more pure pre-communist heritage which is what any self respecting Russian should also want. Great points but you cannot return to a pre-communist heritage with dual citizen Israelis controlling the monetary supply. Who controls the Bolsheviks? The world oligarchy controls them and is unleashing the anarchy on everyone. Be wary. They are scapegoats and hostages of their own system which will crush on their heads. |
KneelB4Zod!
User ID: 22992427 Czechia 09/29/2014 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Guys, you are talking too much and no news here. Let's take it chronologically: NTV.ru claims the militia found to date around 400 bodies in multiple mass graves. Around 350 of them was civilians. [link to www.ntv.ru] “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
KneelB4Zod!
User ID: 22992427 Czechia 09/29/2014 03:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Enrico Ivanov ‏@VonHenrick1 6 hod. SITREP #Novorossiya. _NAF are again advancing towards #Severodonetsk _#Donetsk: NAF control 75% of the airport _NAF not far from #Volnovakha Regarding the #Debaltsevo cauldron. It seems NAF are waiting for the "go-ahead" to put in practice an #Ilovaisk like operation. “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
KneelB4Zod!
User ID: 22992427 Czechia 09/29/2014 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Shaktar Donetsk to play at Lvov Karpaty's stadium tomorrow, a closer look at the notorious neo-Nazi Lvov fans here. pic.twitter.com/nzArJdIKtk [link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)] [link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)] [link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)] (a.k.a. no nazis in Ukraine, imposimbru!) “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
KneelB4Zod!
User ID: 22992427 Czechia 09/29/2014 03:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Euromaidan PR ‏@EuromaidanPR 5 hod. Situation in #Kharkov : NG armored vehicles patrolling streets, central metro stations closed [link to www.pravda.com.ua] … [link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)] Jason ‏@jasonsmith7080 5 hod. #Kharkov: As people continue to gather around Lenin...occupation authorities have closed central metro stations Gosprom and Universitet Last Edited by KneelB4Zod! on 09/29/2014 03:57 PM “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63411088 United Kingdom 09/29/2014 03:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 NATOSource ‏@NATOSource · 5m Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box .@dw_english: Bulk of Germany's air force currently grounded. Only 42 of 109 Eurofighters currently ready for service [link to www.atlanticcouncil.org] … NATOSource ‏@NATOSource · 7m Germany MoD #vonderLeyen: "we are currently below the target figures... we would want to make available to NATO" [link to www.atlanticcouncil.org] … NATOSource ‏@NATOSource · 10m Defense Minister: Germany Unable to Meet NATO Commitments #vonderLeyen #Article5 [link to www.atlanticcouncil.org] … [link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)] NATOSource ‏@NATOSource · 1m Readiness problem: Only 38 of Germany's 89 Tornado fighters can to take to the skies. #NATO [link to www.atlanticcouncil.org] … [link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)] WOW I guess Germany spent to much money on Oktoberfest Interesting . Looks like Mr Willie was correct . Germany may be having second thoughts about it's commitment to NATO . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63403187 Nigeria 09/29/2014 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Gas agreements Minister of Fuel and Energy of Russia, Novak said that the next round of negotiations on gas may take place at the end of this week. Less formally called the date of October 2, and expressed confidence that this day may be signed by temporary additional gas agreement, which will be valid until the end of the winter season. The fact that the terms are called, says that Ukraine highly likely to agree to the proposed Europeans formula that Europeans pay Ukrainian debts and paid off the supply of gas to fill the gas storage. In a sense, Ukrainian blackmail worked - Kiev deeply spit on the state of the economy, any brakes are gone, and the Europeans are forced to play by the rules that dictate the Americans through Ukraine. Hard to say, you know now that evrolidery impasse in which they were supporting a coup in Kiev. In fact they are in a tough depending on the failed state under the control of the United States. Ukrainian transit location allows it to dictate its terms to Europe in a situation of shortage of gas in the European market, if Europe does not solve the problem of gas supplies from Russia. Reserve volumes of gas that could replace transit through Ukraine, no - the only country that can significantly increase the supplies - Norway. However, its spare capacity does not exceed 10 billion cubic meters of gas, and the Norwegians themselves are not welcome this increase in their pension - its reserves are depleted, and increased gas supplies reduce the time during which Norway will be the exporter. But even in this case, Europe will not make up for the shortage of gas arising. Therefore, like it or not - but will have to pay for the Ukraine. Kiev in his situation not to strategy - he would hold until the spring. What's next - will decide then. Such a policy of blackmail Europe and Russia is becoming quite common solution that allows to close the current problems. For Russia benefit from the resumption of cooperation with Ukraine, to put it mildly, is not obvious. Sanctions continue to operate, and losses on them do not exactly overlap income from work with Ukraine. Furthermore, an additional contract will be valid only until March, and then have to start all over again. In other words - any decisions made now in the Ukrainian direction, are of a purely temporary nature and do not remove any of the reasons going cold now (or rather - quite a warm) war. The main reason - full accountability Kiev America. Without eliminating this dependence, Russia will get infinitely more and more problems, which in the end will still lead to an attempt to force their decisions - either from Ukraine or from Russia. However, Russia will never be have such opportunities as this spring. Most likely, the delay will only worsen the solutions of these features, reducing the likelihood of a positive outcome for us all closer to zero. Nevertheless, the conclusion of gas contracts will have clearly not only commercial content. Running conflict is purely politically motivated, and certainly on how exactly to October 2 will be implemented Minsk agreement depends on the position and blackmails each and every one of Kiev. Lack of time for militia acquires strategic importance - if it can not resolve the problem with the key points of conflict - Donetsk airport and deep bridgehead around Debalcevo, DNR status and LNR will be very unflattering. It is clear that Moscow will put pressure on the Donetsk and Lugansk, in order to militia unconditionally complied with the terms of Kiev - otherwise gas negotiations could be jeopardized. |
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User ID: 22992427 Czechia 09/29/2014 04:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 #Russia'n airsoft event in #Moscow to replay liberation of #Ukraine from #fascist invaders [link to lifenews.ru] pic.twitter.com/AbqXzXhn6K [link to lifenews.ru] “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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User ID: 22992427 Czechia 09/29/2014 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 First this is a German uniform-jacket with random patches and then he is overweight and of cause the Russian special forces have already upgraded their AK-47 decades ago. So this is a dead fan of the sptznaz. Don't share such b/s. Why not? Let everyone sees how reliable are Banderistan sources... “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
KneelB4Zod!
User ID: 22992427 Czechia 09/29/2014 04:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Steiner ‏@Steiner1776 5 hod. #Novorossiya Self Defense managed to capture a "Smerch" rocket launcher & loading vehicle pic.twitter.com/hESLrcdMlX via @EgoRZemtsoV #Ukraine [link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)] [link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)] “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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User ID: 22992427 Czechia 09/29/2014 04:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 AJSB ‏@A_J_S_B 5 hod. MAP : Status Quo September 28 in Novorossiya (former East #Ukraine) pic.twitter.com/3ZWHwK0ECa [link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)] (in Russian) Last Edited by KneelB4Zod! on 09/29/2014 04:14 PM “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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User ID: 60582120 United States 09/29/2014 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Gas agreements Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63403187 Minister of Fuel and Energy of Russia, Novak said that the next round of negotiations on gas may take place at the end of this week. Less formally called the date of October 2, and expressed confidence that this day may be signed by temporary additional gas agreement, which will be valid until the end of the winter season. The fact that the terms are called, says that Ukraine highly likely to agree to the proposed Europeans formula that Europeans pay Ukrainian debts and paid off the supply of gas to fill the gas storage. In a sense, Ukrainian blackmail worked - Kiev deeply spit on the state of the economy, any brakes are gone, and the Europeans are forced to play by the rules that dictate the Americans through Ukraine. Hard to say, you know now that evrolidery impasse in which they were supporting a coup in Kiev. In fact they are in a tough depending on the failed state under the control of the United States. Ukrainian transit location allows it to dictate its terms to Europe in a situation of shortage of gas in the European market, if Europe does not solve the problem of gas supplies from Russia. Reserve volumes of gas that could replace transit through Ukraine, no - the only country that can significantly increase the supplies - Norway. However, its spare capacity does not exceed 10 billion cubic meters of gas, and the Norwegians themselves are not welcome this increase in their pension - its reserves are depleted, and increased gas supplies reduce the time during which Norway will be the exporter. But even in this case, Europe will not make up for the shortage of gas arising. Therefore, like it or not - but will have to pay for the Ukraine. Kiev in his situation not to strategy - he would hold until the spring. What's next - will decide then. Such a policy of blackmail Europe and Russia is becoming quite common solution that allows to close the current problems. For Russia benefit from the resumption of cooperation with Ukraine, to put it mildly, is not obvious. Sanctions continue to operate, and losses on them do not exactly overlap income from work with Ukraine. Furthermore, an additional contract will be valid only until March, and then have to start all over again. In other words - any decisions made now in the Ukrainian direction, are of a purely temporary nature and do not remove any of the reasons going cold now (or rather - quite a warm) war. The main reason - full accountability Kiev America. Without eliminating this dependence, Russia will get infinitely more and more problems, which in the end will still lead to an attempt to force their decisions - either from Ukraine or from Russia. However, Russia will never be have such opportunities as this spring. Most likely, the delay will only worsen the solutions of these features, reducing the likelihood of a positive outcome for us all closer to zero. Nevertheless, the conclusion of gas contracts will have clearly not only commercial content. Running conflict is purely politically motivated, and certainly on how exactly to October 2 will be implemented Minsk agreement depends on the position and blackmails each and every one of Kiev. Lack of time for militia acquires strategic importance - if it can not resolve the problem with the key points of conflict - Donetsk airport and deep bridgehead around Debalcevo, DNR status and LNR will be very unflattering. It is clear that Moscow will put pressure on the Donetsk and Lugansk, in order to militia unconditionally complied with the terms of Kiev - otherwise gas negotiations could be jeopardized. It makes no sense for Russia to enter into that agreement. Even if things go well Russia end up barely ahead. Much better to let talks break down and sue on the USD3bn Eurobond default. Then come winter, let Ukraine renege or not renege on the transit service - it's Europe's problem to force Ukraine to behave, not Russia's problem. Worst - if they agree to this deal AND THEN something else that no-one could see in advance screws up the transit gas service (eg civil war) then Russia has made all the concessions, takes all the losses but gets none of the benefits in return. Agreeing to this deal is very much like paying a blackmailer. In fact it is paying a blackmailer (well actually more than one). Paying a blackmailer is never a good idea, they just come back later with the same threats. |