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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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Russia did not jam Aegis, that's just soviet style propaganda.
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Hey did you all shear that sometimes womens will make their mans to fight?? Sick but sometimes mans need to fight. But fighting with drone and tank is this honor?? Please friends, depleted uranium is satanic shit, reactive armor, very bad for tanker crew, please friends, try to have sack of cowshit or mud wrestling females to decide such important world events, not some shit like DU ammo and armor, god help Earth.
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DU sure has a nice way of poppin open a tank full o assholes, though. Just to be fair.

I agree that the cost is much to high to use DU in places like Iraq and Afgan where is not really needed, fighting a real enemy like the Russians, Chinese, Indians though.......they have much better armor than the Iraqi crap.

DU would be highly necessary. Plus they enemy would also be using it.

The DU babies in Iraq and Afgan make me want to eat a gun barrel. I have 4 babies of my own.
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False Flag imminent, no russian jet is going to enter UA and fire on anything, its ludicrous to think so. Unless....unless a False Flag happens and Russia has no choice but to bite
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57355635


A few pages ago there were reports of multiple incursions by Russian aircraft in a 24hr period. If true then Russia are poking UA with a stick, hoping for a response.

Would even an attempt at shooting a Russian aircraft down be justification enough?
 Quoting: Was Anonymous


These reports were false.

Russia is doing drills on the borders with UA, they are close to the border, but they didn't violate UA airspace. Unless they were referring to Crimea, which UA still argues is theirs and not Russian.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57355635

M
So they ca spin the news then!!!!

bump
 Quoting: Limpan


Not taking sides, but just stating only the Russian media denies the incursions. A claim that the denial came from Kiev was false. Kiev and the USA stand by the aircraft violations report
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@BSpringnote: Ministry of Defense website says land forces air defense forces in the south of the country are in full military preparedness
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Fortunately Ukrainian army isnt cooperating too much with the interim government.
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Co operating enough to split the country tho. Military coup is the best we can hope for and no sign thus far
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Hey did you all shear that sometimes womens will make their mans to fight?? Sick but sometimes mans need to fight. But fighting with drone and tank is this honor?? Please friends, depleted uranium is satanic shit, reactive armor, very bad for tanker crew, please friends, try to have sack of cowshit or mud wrestling females to decide such important world events, not some shit like DU ammo and armor, god help Earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47370470



DU sure has a nice way of poppin open a tank full o assholes, though. Just to be fair.

I agree that the cost is much to high to use DU in places like Iraq and Afgan where is not really needed, fighting a real enemy like the Russians, Chinese, Indians though.......they have much better armor than the Iraqi crap.

DU would be highly necessary. Plus they enemy would also be using it.

The DU babies in Iraq and Afgan make me want to eat a gun barrel. I have 4 babies of my own.
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Friend, you said much.

DU is like a no-brainer for asshead war pigs, it is 1000x hard, and it is the trash byproduct of fission. Indeed, it is stored in gaseous formDERPSUPERDERP.

And also, it is massively pollutive, as you say, yes, babies dislike DU. HIGHLY NECESSARY as you put it, well, not DU but babies I mean. Yes friend, the future is totally fucked if this goes hot. God speed to anyone willing to try and save future generations of horribly deformed births. Actually in this light, nukes seem reasonable if only to kill those who seek to spread dustclouds of DU over all of Earth. FUCK THAT, DU is way worse than nuke fallout!!@!!
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Separatists leave #Donetsk oblast TV station which was seized by them this morning [link to bit]

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A few pages ago there were reports of multiple incursions by Russian aircraft in a 24hr period. If true then Russia are poking UA with a stick, hoping for a response.

Would even an attempt at shooting a Russian aircraft down be justification enough?
 Quoting: Was Anonymous


These reports were false.

Russia is doing drills on the borders with UA, they are close to the border, but they didn't violate UA airspace. Unless they were referring to Crimea, which UA still argues is theirs and not Russian.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57355635

M
So they ca spin the news then!!!!

bump
 Quoting: Limpan


Not taking sides, but just stating only the Russian media denies the incursions. A claim that the denial came from Kiev was false. Kiev and the USA stand by the aircraft violations report
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Reahihihily? rolleyes
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^^^ Also your sage comment about DU babies in Iraq is a shadow of Vietnam soldier considering Agent Orange babies in Vietnam.

I blame Dow chemical and the Generals. Not the fighters.
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Separatists leave #Donetsk oblast TV station which was seized by them this morning [link to bit]

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Let them air something good, not this propaganda shit.

How about The Muppet Show(tm)?
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Russia did not jam Aegis, that's just soviet style propaganda.
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yeah they did and 27 marines resigned because they were scared and went home to mommy
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proof? I thought not.
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Do UA air defence systems have the ability to attack RU aircraft?

- I supposed old-fashioned flak might work..
 Quoting: Was Anonymous


Ukraine has S-300s, which are one of the better AA missiles out there. Georgia was able to shoot down Russian planes, so I assume Ukraine should be able to.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


Only six systems have been repaired since 2004, as a result only 40% of Ukrainian S-300 systems are in good condition.

Not much, but something.
I'm not sure if they can hit a top tech, stealth plane tho.
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If they have the tech to make a US Navy ship dead in the water (allegedly), they may well have the tech to knock past-generation systems designed and built by themselves
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Lockheed Martin F-35 can pass S-300 radar system.
Why do you think the Russians created S-400? ;)

The thing is, Ukraine doesn't got a S-400 system.
So yeah, top tech Russian stealth fighters can problably pass their (S-300) radar aswell.
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Separatists leave #Donetsk oblast TV station which was seized by them this morning [link to bit]

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Ffs they're as bad as army, move in take over and leave again. What kind of conflict is this? Both sides taking positions just because they can?
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Russia did not jam Aegis, that's just soviet style propaganda.
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says m16 charwoman
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In the meantime, Saudi (US) supported jihadists in Syria got it from behind sideways

Iraq army attacks jihadist convoy in eastern Syria
Iraqi army helicopters attacked and eliminated a jihadist convoy inside eastern Syria on Sunday as it tried to approach the border, an Interior Ministry spokesman said. Eight people were killed in the attack. The spokesman said the army struck eight tanker trucks “as they were trying to enter Iraqi territory to provide the [jihadist] Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant with fuel.” It was the first time Iraq's military has said it carried out an attack in Syria.

hmmmmm drevil
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actually NATO declared war on those ISIL guys, they are not best buddies anymore, since they turned on the FSA and Al-Quaeda for some reason 1dunno1
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All these jihadis are western tools, and alot is just a smoke screen, they want to look like they are still against the jihadis after it became official how they supported them in many ways. They should all be wiped out, no matter what they call themselves. You shout Allah Akbar shooting on civilians or your/other countries army while getting your weapons, clothing, food and even payments from outside you belong in that category.
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The Simple Question both Lavrov and Putin have daughters

Putin's daughter lives in Holland and Lavrov daughter is still a student a Colombia, don't you think that both the daughter would be going home to family to be safe if a real war or nuke war was going to happen or don't Putin and Lavrov give a shit about there daughters ?
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A few pages ago there were reports of multiple incursions by Russian aircraft in a 24hr period. If true then Russia are poking UA with a stick, hoping for a response.

Would even an attempt at shooting a Russian aircraft down be justification enough?
 Quoting: Was Anonymous


These reports were false.

Russia is doing drills on the borders with UA, they are close to the border, but they didn't violate UA airspace. Unless they were referring to Crimea, which UA still argues is theirs and not Russian.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57355635

M
So they ca spin the news then!!!!

bump
 Quoting: Limpan


Not taking sides, but just stating only the Russian media denies the incursions. A claim that the denial came from Kiev was false. Kiev and the USA stand by the aircraft violations report
 Quoting: Janey 57352293


Of course they would stand by their lies. Kerry still thinks the pics that were debunked are evidence of Russian soldiers. And still nobody in Russia uttered the words "We feel threatened by the UA military on our borders". It's all spin, nothing else. Russia will not be stupid to enter airspace of East UA or anywhere and give reasons for US/NATO and allies to condemn them on violations of any sort. They're very careful not do it. Besides the fact it wouldn't even make sense.
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In the meantime, Saudi (US) supported jihadists in Syria got it from behind sideways

Iraq army attacks jihadist convoy in eastern Syria
Iraqi army helicopters attacked and eliminated a jihadist convoy inside eastern Syria on Sunday as it tried to approach the border, an Interior Ministry spokesman said. Eight people were killed in the attack. The spokesman said the army struck eight tanker trucks “as they were trying to enter Iraqi territory to provide the [jihadist] Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant with fuel.” It was the first time Iraq's military has said it carried out an attack in Syria.

hmmmmm drevil
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57392426

actually NATO declared war on those ISIL guys, they are not best buddies anymore, since they turned on the FSA and Al-Quaeda for some reason 1dunno1
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All these jihadis are western tools, and alot is just a smoke screen, they want to look like they are still against the jihadis after it became official how they supported them in many ways. They should all be wiped out, no matter what they call themselves. You shout Allah Akbar shooting on civilians or your/other countries army while getting your weapons, clothing, food and even payments from outside you belong in that category.
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Make sense ....jihadists want to look like they're still against jihadists...what does that mean?
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The Simple Question both Lavrov and Putin have daughters

Putin's daughter lives in Holland and Lavrov daughter is still a student a Colombia, don't you think that both the daughter would be going home to family to be safe if a real war or nuke war was going to happen or don't Putin and Lavrov give a shit about there daughters ?
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They may know who the marcher lords are, but do the plebes know?
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Russia did not jam Aegis, that's just soviet style propaganda.
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Russia did not need to jam Aegis because they have stealth plasma shields on their jets!


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UKR Defence Ministry states that Air Defence Systems have been switched on and they are prepared to fire on intruding aircraft
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They are only doing what a sovereign state gas to do against intruding aircraft.
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Do UA air defence systems have the ability to attack RU aircraft?

- I supposed old-fashioned flak might work..
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Ukraine has S-300s, which are one of the better AA missiles out there. Georgia was able to shoot down Russian planes, so I assume Ukraine should be able to.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux

UA has old soviet s-300 built 20-30 years ago. Georgia got their air defense missiles from Ukraine in 2008

After Georgia war Russia made steps to avoid problems with Ukrainian systems in future
If war started we will see how it works
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Russia did not need to jam Aegis because they have stealth plasma shields on their jets!
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Hmm and also US troops have the Ark of the Covenant so watch out. YHWH has the ability to erase DU from whatever battlefield he likes. Haha, I am joking, not even YHWH can do that.
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In the meantime, Saudi (US) supported jihadists in Syria got it from behind sideways

Iraq army attacks jihadist convoy in eastern Syria
Iraqi army helicopters attacked and eliminated a jihadist convoy inside eastern Syria on Sunday as it tried to approach the border, an Interior Ministry spokesman said. Eight people were killed in the attack. The spokesman said the army struck eight tanker trucks “as they were trying to enter Iraqi territory to provide the [jihadist] Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant with fuel.” It was the first time Iraq's military has said it carried out an attack in Syria.

hmmmmm drevil
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57392426

actually NATO declared war on those ISIL guys, they are not best buddies anymore, since they turned on the FSA and Al-Quaeda for some reason 1dunno1
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All these jihadis are western tools, and alot is just a smoke screen, they want to look like they are still against the jihadis after it became official how they supported them in many ways. They should all be wiped out, no matter what they call themselves. You shout Allah Akbar shooting on civilians or your/other countries army while getting your weapons, clothing, food and even payments from outside you belong in that category.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57355635


Make sense ....jihadists want to look like they're still against jihadists...what does that mean?
 Quoting: missanthropic55


Sorry, english is only my second language so when I write it can be misunderstood. I meant NATO/US still want to look like being against Jihadis. They're just going after ISIL now because maybe these rabid psychos realized after being let out of Abu Graib and several other places that NATO/US are not their friends and they broke away, with their weapons and money. These guys are dangerous, a turned rogue sort of militia or as the west calls them "mujahedeen".
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The Simple Question both Lavrov and Putin have daughters

Putin's daughter lives in Holland and Lavrov daughter is still a student a Colombia, don't you think that both the daughter would be going home to family to be safe if a real war or nuke war was going to happen or don't Putin and Lavrov give a shit about there daughters ?
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Hard to say if we'd know if either was evacuated.

Your point is valid though. If they're both at school abroad that is the biggest sign of any that nothing is about to happen.
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The Simple Question both Lavrov and Putin have daughters

Putin's daughter lives in Holland and Lavrov daughter is still a student a Colombia, don't you think that both the daughter would be going home to family to be safe if a real war or nuke war was going to happen or don't Putin and Lavrov give a shit about there daughters ?
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Here's another one:
Vitaly Ivanovich Churkin is Russia's Permanent Representative to the United Nations since 2006. Previously he was Ambassador to Belgium from 1994 to 1998 and Ambassador to Canada from 1998 to 2003.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

His daughter, Anastasia Churkina, works in New York for Russia Today America
[link to rt.com]

Conclusion: the top Russian, US and EU puppets are controlled by the same NWO masters and their enemies are "we the people"!
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actually NATO declared war on those ISIL guys, they are not best buddies anymore, since they turned on the FSA and Al-Quaeda for some reason 1dunno1
 Quoting: NotZuckerberg


All these jihadis are western tools, and alot is just a smoke screen, they want to look like they are still against the jihadis after it became official how they supported them in many ways. They should all be wiped out, no matter what they call themselves. You shout Allah Akbar shooting on civilians or your/other countries army while getting your weapons, clothing, food and even payments from outside you belong in that category.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57355635


Make sense ....jihadists want to look like they're still against jihadists...what does that mean?
 Quoting: missanthropic55


Sorry, english is only my second language so when I write it can be misunderstood. I meant NATO/US still want to look like being against Jihadis. They're just going after ISIL now because maybe these rabid psychos realized after being let out of Abu Graib and several other places that NATO/US are not their friends and they broke away, with their weapons and money. These guys are dangerous, a turned rogue sort of militia or as the west calls them "mujahedeen".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57355635


Understand you now...what you have to understand about the 'West', no matter how dangerous you are u can be used as an asset if u do their bidding. Knowingly or unknowingly.
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Even RT still refers to them as OSCE observers. All we know is that they have a different mission and legal standing to be there.
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OSCE observers under the Vienna agreement.
Not OSCE monitors under the Geneva agreement.
The distinction is crucial, the observers are members of militaries. The monitors are not.
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Even RT still refers to them as OSCE observers. All we know is that they have a different mission and legal standing to be there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57118211

OSCE observers under the Vienna agreement.
Not OSCE monitors under the Geneva agreement.
The distinction is crucial, the observers are members of militaries. The monitors are not.
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Do either have a code which speaks about masks wearing of armed members? Like the Lieber Code of Abraham Lincoln?
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“For two or three days the army will be able to reach Kyiv”

Vice-President of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems, reserve Captain of the First Rank Konstantin Sivkov has also told to the newspaper VIEW that there will be no strong resistance to the Russian troops in Ukraine.

“To do this, they need people who are ready to fight and not a few people who shoot and run away. If there will be resistance, I do not think it will be a very strong one. It is possible that there will be problems with canals and ditches that they have dug out, but then I think, it will be easily overcome. So for a day or two, a maximum of two or three days the Russian army could reach Kiev,” – Sivkov said.

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Russia did not need to jam Aegis because they have stealth plasma shields on their jets!
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Hmm and also US troops have the Ark of the Covenant so watch out. YHWH has the ability to erase DU from whatever battlefield he likes. Haha, I am joking, not even YHWH can do that.
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Fuck!
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