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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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But they are going to Luhansk, not to Kiev.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish

950 Miles then.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60035161

12 hours
 Quoting: The wayshower

That doesn't sound right.

A truck convoy will sustain 40mph / 65kph at best, including stops.
Given an even slightly circuitous route of say 950 km to the border, it would take 900/65 == 14 hours. Add a stop for ICRC bureaucracy it is unlikely (in my view) they would be crossing the border before breakfast-time (9am Moscow Time) on Wednesday. And could easily be much later.

Also the ICRC will try to drag their feet and delay things for any and every excuse they can find. So a lot depends on how much patience to accommodate their lethal games is extended.
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I'd say, likely route would be [link to maps.yandex.ru]
1100 kilometers - 18+ hours at 60 km/h speed.
Including all checks by ICRC - eta is 2-3 days, I'd say.
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[link to en.voicesevas.ru] - here's English version.

Cassad mentioned, that he believed it 70-80% at most, but then the site was attacked by hackers after the publication...
 Quoting: Tamonten


Thanks Tamonten. When I originally posted this link yesterday it hadn't been hacked. Fortunately the information presented still looks in tact.

Makes you wonder why someone would want to hack into and change the information doesn't it.
 Quoting: KFinn


Well, changing the information is pretty much meaningless.
In the report about hacking attempt it was said about DDoS attack and resetting of repost counter.
 Quoting: Tamonten


Why do you think they would do that?
 Quoting: KFinn


DDoS - to block the site.
Counter resetting - to undermine it's credibility.
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"But we are still alive." - Thread: "The Great Game" by Mikhail Leontyev (2007-2008)

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"Russia is the great Christian country with rich Islamic history" - Vladimir Solovyov (Russian Jew)
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"Europe can wait while the Russian tsar fishes." - Alexander III The Peacemaker

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Elena Karacharova
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#Russian solder writes about being involved in to the preparation of 300 trucks of humanitarian aid to #Ukraine
[link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)]
 Quoting: hIndsIght2020


Look at that Hindend, Russia trying to help people instead of bombing the shit out of them, to give them freedom..
 Quoting: 4thhorseman


You're an ignorant fuck that knows little if anything about who russia is. You believe a bunch of fighting against the NWO garbage without investigating who the russians are, who they were and who they will likely always be. You may as well be defending stalin the and indiscriminate killing of anyone in their way by supporting the russians. Basically...your a traitorous scumbag.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61504310


Since Stalin was mentioned again:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
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I'm curious - how's that all the bad things that was done in 1930s and 1940s in SU are Stalin's fault, but all the good things have no connection with him? If that's not demonizing, than what is?
 Quoting: Tamonten



You are trying to cover in paint the worst criminal and killer known to the modern world. I don't think there is enough pigment in the worlds paint to make this man a saint like you portray. I don't know who started it but the dacha system was the ONLY good thing the communists ever tried. Clearly it was to keep what russians remained from starving to death after ww2, irregardless....good idea. All the rest is shit. Stalin didn't close the german camps after ww2 and while the world saw him as a savior he ordered every sort of human experimentation a perverted mind like his could think of. And that was at the end of the war...the whole of the russian criminal gang system started with him. Putin keeps it going.
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Thanks Tamonten. When I originally posted this link yesterday it hadn't been hacked. Fortunately the information presented still looks in tact.

Makes you wonder why someone would want to hack into and change the information doesn't it.
 Quoting: KFinn


Well, changing the information is pretty much meaningless.
In the report about hacking attempt it was said about DDoS attack and resetting of repost counter.
 Quoting: Tamonten


Why do you think they would do that?
 Quoting: KFinn


DDoS - to block the site.
Counter resetting - to undermine it's credibility.
 Quoting: Tamonten


Ahhh, I see.

Whatever the case, this information probably won't even hit the main stream alternative media.
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Look at that Hindend, Russia trying to help people instead of bombing the shit out of them, to give them freedom..
 Quoting: 4thhorseman


You're an ignorant fuck that knows little if anything about who russia is. You believe a bunch of fighting against the NWO garbage without investigating who the russians are, who they were and who they will likely always be. You may as well be defending stalin the and indiscriminate killing of anyone in their way by supporting the russians. Basically...your a traitorous scumbag.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61504310


Since Stalin was mentioned again:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

I'm curious - how's that all the bad things that was done in 1930s and 1940s in SU are Stalin's fault, but all the good things have no connection with him? If that's not demonizing, than what is?
 Quoting: Tamonten



You are trying to cover in paint the worst criminal and killer known to the modern world. I don't think there is enough pigment in the worlds paint to make this man a saint like you portray. I don't know who started it but the dacha system was the ONLY good thing the communists ever tried. Clearly it was to keep what russians remained from starving to death after ww2, irregardless....good idea. All the rest is shit. Stalin didn't close the german camps after ww2 and while the world saw him as a savior he ordered every sort of human experimentation a perverted mind like his could think of. And that was at the end of the war...the whole of the russian criminal gang system started with him. Putin keeps it going.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61504310


I won't answer the unargumented part, but precisely about food...
Did you know that after the war "ration stamp" system was abolished in USSR in 1947? While in Britain it existed till 1950s - up to 1954 on some products?
"When every one is dead the Great Game is finished. Not before." - Rudyard Kipling, "Kim" (1901)
"But we are still alive." - Thread: "The Great Game" by Mikhail Leontyev (2007-2008)

"Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination." - Brandon Sanderson, "The Way of Kings"
"Russia is the great Christian country with rich Islamic history" - Vladimir Solovyov (Russian Jew)
Quos Iupiter perdere vult, dementat.
"Europe can wait while the Russian tsar fishes." - Alexander III The Peacemaker

Thread: I'm Russian – ask me a question. Be it about Russia or a personal one.
Thread: From Rus' to Russia - grand concert on the Red Square, June 12th 2015 - please help with translation!

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The US are making big noises about imposing more sanctions if Russia delivers humanitarian aid to Eastern Ukraine, without the express permission of the Ukrainians, yet Lavrov insists they already have Kiev's agreement.

Do you think that Russia and Ukraine have decided that enough is enough with the Americans and decided to try it another way?

I wonder what will happen if the convoy gets attacked by some renegade element of the Ukrainian military, as may have happened with MH17.
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US voices concern over Russia’s humanitarian aid for south-east Ukraine [link to en.itar-tass.com]

WASHINGTON, August 12. /ITAR-TASS/. The United States is concerned that Russia’s planned humanitarian aid for the embattled south-eastern Ukraine might be “a pretense” for a military invasion of the ex-Soviet state, US Department of State Deputy Spokesperson Marie Harf said.

“We are concerned that Russia could try to use a humanitarian or peacekeeping operation as a pretense for inserting elements of military force into Ukraine.”
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The US are making big noises about imposing more sanctions if Russia delivers humanitarian aid to Eastern Ukraine, without the express permission of the Ukrainians, yet Lavrov insists they already have Kiev's agreement.

Do you think that Russia and Ukraine have decided that enough is enough with the Americans and decided to try it another way?

I wonder what will happen if the convoy gets attacked by some renegade element of the Ukrainian military, as may have happened with MH17.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61070282


Yep, it looks like an agreement has been made and Washington is having a hissy fit.

I've been thinking the same thing. IF the convoy gets attacked it will most likely come from one of the neo nazi volunteer groups.
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You're an ignorant fuck that knows little if anything about who russia is. You believe a bunch of fighting against the NWO garbage without investigating who the russians are, who they were and who they will likely always be. You may as well be defending stalin the and indiscriminate killing of anyone in their way by supporting the russians. Basically...your a traitorous scumbag.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61504310


Since Stalin was mentioned again:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

I'm curious - how's that all the bad things that was done in 1930s and 1940s in SU are Stalin's fault, but all the good things have no connection with him? If that's not demonizing, than what is?
 Quoting: Tamonten



You are trying to cover in paint the worst criminal and killer known to the modern world. I don't think there is enough pigment in the worlds paint to make this man a saint like you portray. I don't know who started it but the dacha system was the ONLY good thing the communists ever tried. Clearly it was to keep what russians remained from starving to death after ww2, irregardless....good idea. All the rest is shit. Stalin didn't close the german camps after ww2 and while the world saw him as a savior he ordered every sort of human experimentation a perverted mind like his could think of. And that was at the end of the war...the whole of the russian criminal gang system started with him. Putin keeps it going.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61504310


I won't answer the unargumented part, but precisely about food...
Did you know that after the war "ration stamp" system was abolished in USSR in 1947? While in Britain it existed till 1950s - up to 1954 on some products?
 Quoting: Tamonten



Ok, so what are you throwing that at? I'm in the USA where none of that shit went on. Russia imports wheat from the west. Ban all the apples, oranges and other fruit Siberia can't grow for the mobsters. I hope you stalin worshiping peoples fare well.
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Kerry Says Hopes Russia and Ukraine Can Work Together on Plane Probe [link to www.nytimes.com]

SYDNEY — Secretary of State John Kerry said on Tuesday he hopes the international community can find a way for Russia and Ukraine to work together to facilitate a formal investigation into the crash of a Malaysia Airlines plane.
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Guilty plea implicates Saakashvili in murder cover up

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Oleg Melnikov, the former high official of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, has pleaded guilty in all episodes of Sandro Girgvliani’s case.

(Read here about the murder of Sandro Girgvliani: [link to en.wikipedia.org] )

Melnikov said both Chief Prosecutor Zurab Adeishvili [granted political asylum in Hungary] and President Mikheil Saakashvili [on-the-run from justice and the rule of law] approved the plan, as per which 4 employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs would be arrested and then released. According to Melnikov, he signed the testimony by the request of Data Akhalaia [under arrest in Greece for using a false passport]. Melnikov also said that he had been getting payment each month despite the fact that he had not been working.
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It is clear. If the US and the West deem Russia's humanitarian convoy as anything else, then Americans will drop the hammer on Putin. Not that I give a shit either way, those are just the facts.
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The US are making big noises about imposing more sanctions if Russia delivers humanitarian aid to Eastern Ukraine, without the express permission of the Ukrainians, yet Lavrov insists they already have Kiev's agreement.

Do you think that Russia and Ukraine have decided that enough is enough with the Americans and decided to try it another way?

I wonder what will happen if the convoy gets attacked by some renegade element of the Ukrainian military, as may have happened with MH17.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61070282


Why would they agree to that when 75% of "new russia" is lost to the fighting? I wonder what will happen if the russian humanitarian effort is fired upon by one of the 100's or 1000's of russian backed "rebels" occupying the east as commanded by putin or one of the cronie thugs in the mobster heirarchy? Russia may have slipped out of shooting a passenger jet down with hundreds of innocent foreigners but I doubt they will this time...It's clear what russia wants to do. Once a killer, always a killer.
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Russia imports wheat from the west.
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No they don't.

The World's Biggest Wheat Exporting Countries...

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It is clear. If the US and the West deem Russia's humanitarian convoy as anything else, then Americans will drop the hammer on Putin. Not that I give a shit either way, those are just the facts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61169746


The USA will be watching with everything at their disposal. I would not want to be the unlucky SOB russian rebel supporter ordered to attack the russian humanitarian brigade. Frankly I can't believe the russians took the bait. If they get in and out without anything happening, my guess is it's all over for russia. I doubt the russian backed rebels will have that though.
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Stop and listen to yourself man. You know nothing about Russia or Russians that you haven't been taught to believe.
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Far-Right Fighters from Europe Fight for Ukraine [link to www.lobelog.com]

The Nazis are coming out of the woodwork.
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Aid convoy contents:

Russia has said the 280 trucks contain 2,000 tons of relief aid:

400 tons of cereals
100 tons of sugar
62 tons of baby food
54 tons of medical drugs and supplies
12,000 sleeping bags
69 power generators

[link to live.aljazeera.com]
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Far-Right Fighters from Europe Fight for Ukraine [link to www.lobelog.com]

The Nazis are coming out of the woodwork.
 Quoting: KFinn


McCarthyism in Europe (Carl Bildt, et. al.):

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Their aim is to establish a "Crimes of Communism Museum" in every European capital before the year 2020.
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Far-Right Fighters from Europe Fight for Ukraine [link to www.lobelog.com]

The Nazis are coming out of the woodwork.
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McCarthyism in Europe (Carl Bildt, et. al.):

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Their aim is to establish a "Crimes of Communism Museum" in every European capital before the year 2020.
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Have they forgotten what the Nazis did?
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Since Stalin was mentioned again:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
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I'm curious - how's that all the bad things that was done in 1930s and 1940s in SU are Stalin's fault, but all the good things have no connection with him? If that's not demonizing, than what is?
 Quoting: Tamonten



You are trying to cover in paint the worst criminal and killer known to the modern world. I don't think there is enough pigment in the worlds paint to make this man a saint like you portray. I don't know who started it but the dacha system was the ONLY good thing the communists ever tried. Clearly it was to keep what russians remained from starving to death after ww2, irregardless....good idea. All the rest is shit. Stalin didn't close the german camps after ww2 and while the world saw him as a savior he ordered every sort of human experimentation a perverted mind like his could think of. And that was at the end of the war...the whole of the russian criminal gang system started with him. Putin keeps it going.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61504310


I won't answer the unargumented part, but precisely about food...
Did you know that after the war "ration stamp" system was abolished in USSR in 1947? While in Britain it existed till 1950s - up to 1954 on some products?
 Quoting: Tamonten



Ok, so what are you throwing that at? I'm in the USA where none of that shit went on. Russia imports wheat from the west. Ban all the apples, oranges and other fruit Siberia can't grow for the mobsters. I hope you stalin worshiping peoples fare well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61504310

They will fare well. Russia has made an agreement with China for those food items, almost as if they were prepared for this eventuality.
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It is clear. If the US and the West deem Russia's humanitarian convoy as anything else, then Americans will drop the hammer on Putin. Not that I give a shit either way, those are just the facts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61169746


The USA will be watching with everything at their disposal. I would not want to be the unlucky SOB russian rebel supporter ordered to attack the russian humanitarian brigade. Frankly I can't believe the russians took the bait. If they get in and out without anything happening, my guess is it's all over for russia. I doubt the russian backed rebels will have that though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61504310


You mean the US will be watching this in real time with satellites that can read the time on your watch just as they have been since the beginning of this conflict but were somehow unable to show who shot down MH17?
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Stop and listen to yourself man. You know nothing about Russia or Russians that you haven't been taught to believe.
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I've tried to watch every piece of media on both sides of the confrontation, subtitles and documentation included. The russian side has little if anything to counter.

Oh....and you are here to erase everything the russians did and are doing now...right? These peace loving folk and, mainly their dictatorial governmnet, have been here for a hundred years waving the olive branch. Russians didn't adopt bolshevism. It was all just a lie by some joos. Right? This government they selected did not kill innocent russians and countries they occupied by the the MILLIONS. Right? The Joos did.

I had an online girlfriend for a long time in Barnaul, Altai. I know the real everyday score.



There is not a russian government in place that worked hand in hand with serbian nationalists in Yugoslavia attempting ethnic cleansing.
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#Russia says that #Ukraine agreed to let in Russian convoy but that contradicts what Kiev says. Likely a provocation. [link to itar-tass.com] …
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Since Stalin was mentioned again:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

I'm curious - how's that all the bad things that was done in 1930s and 1940s in SU are Stalin's fault, but all the good things have no connection with him? If that's not demonizing, than what is?
 Quoting: Tamonten



You are trying to cover in paint the worst criminal and killer known to the modern world. I don't think there is enough pigment in the worlds paint to make this man a saint like you portray. I don't know who started it but the dacha system was the ONLY good thing the communists ever tried. Clearly it was to keep what russians remained from starving to death after ww2, irregardless....good idea. All the rest is shit. Stalin didn't close the german camps after ww2 and while the world saw him as a savior he ordered every sort of human experimentation a perverted mind like his could think of. And that was at the end of the war...the whole of the russian criminal gang system started with him. Putin keeps it going.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61504310


I won't answer the unargumented part, but precisely about food...
Did you know that after the war "ration stamp" system was abolished in USSR in 1947? While in Britain it existed till 1950s - up to 1954 on some products?
 Quoting: Tamonten



Ok, so what are you throwing that at? I'm in the USA where none of that shit went on. Russia imports wheat from the west. Ban all the apples, oranges and other fruit Siberia can't grow for the mobsters. I hope you stalin worshiping peoples fare well.
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Because USA essencially participiated in WW2 with finances and industry - not with real warforce. There were no destroyed industries, hundreds of thousands of displaced people, etc. The main benificiant of WW2 was USA.

Wake up. Russia is exporting grain for many years now. There were prohibitions on export in year 2010 because of drought. Every year since then harvest was greater than in previous one.
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@russian_market: #BOOM RUSSIAN CONVOY VIOLATES RULES ON HUMANITARIAN AID - RED CROSS
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@russian_market: WARNING: It was Red Cross Ukraine talking. False Alarm.
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Russian Market &#8207;@russian_market · 2 min.
Now we will have a circus between official Red Cross and Red Cross represented by Kiev's Alla Khabarova.
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Now we will have a circus between official Red Cross and Red Cross represented by Kiev's Alla Khabarova.
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This circus is named "Ukraine" and existed for almost 23 years now... More of mental hospital though.

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