UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Janey User ID: 55727230 United Kingdom 03/25/2014 08:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Some feedback on Lavrov - Ukraine meeting Guys, unconfirmed, but from a conversation I just had with a diplomatic journalist of high credibility on messenger. The basic view of the Ukrainians is that nothing really changed in the Lavrov discussions and working level discussions that are following. Western powers are working hard to have Russia commit fully to no further interventions in Ukraine. Crimea has already been written off and the west is signalling that stance to pro Kiev Ukraine. Russia stated they had no interest in escalation, where hoping to de-escalate but laid out the usual provisos. Namely, that Russia reserves the right to act if it sees its interests or ethnic Russian speakers threatened. Nothing new there to be honest. As mentioned yesterday by me, everyone is trying to play nice, at least until the remaining Ukrainian military in Crimea are fully repatriated. The Ukrainians want them back, so will not rock the boat. The Russians want a potential hostile force out of Crimea. So we are currently in a situation where everyone is acting to mutual benefit, consolidating their positions. I was told by a military source today that the potential for military escalation has not diminished one iota and that it is now in the hands of the diplomats. There is behind the scenes discussion today hoping for a breakthrough, but most are pessimistic. However, there is a chance for an announcement later today. Quoting: Janey 55727230 What's concerning to me is I have heard nothing new on the diplomatic front from Russia. It's as if Putin has given Lavrov no room to negotiate. We are hearing the same things out of Lavrov and the Russian Foreign Ministry as we heard weeks ago. It's almost as if they are biding their time. Perhaps until (as you say) all hostile URK forces are out of Crimea or until they have a sufficient pretext (violence against ethnic Russians) to move into the URK mainland. Even if we do hear in the next few days of a diplomatic breakthough, I wouldn't write off this crisis until Russia backs off the URK border. Quoting: Newshunter I agree with you 100% on your analysis. It is like the collective Russian teleprompter is constantly recycling the same script. My gut feeling is there will be no invasion, just intimidation with those forces. I thought Lavrov meeting the Ukrainians was a chink of light in the dark, but it was put to me this morning that opportunity was used as a further tool for the Russians to get their point across.
Newshunter User ID: 22884594 United States 03/25/2014 08:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Daniel Sandford‏@BBCDanielS·20m Still seeing fresh videos of Russian tanks near Ukrainian border. No indication which direction they are travelling [link to www.youtube.com]
< DL > User ID: 11619293 United States 03/25/2014 08:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ive had enough im out putins taking to long whhich suggest hes pussied out and thiers only 20 thousand atthe borders its only to indimidate not to invade hes toook too long it gets boring now Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55926898 This Brit is a fucking retard. Every single day spams doom off while spelling nearly every word wrong. Seriously ban this 10 year old! :youreafag:
Newshunter User ID: 22884594 United States 03/25/2014 09:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 16:51 RUSSIA'S PROSECUTOR GENERAL SIGNS ORDER TO SET UP PROSECUTORS' OFFICES IN CRIMEA, SEVASTOPOL - GRIDNEVA [link to www.interfax.com]
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56070556 United Kingdom 03/25/2014 09:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Some feedback on Lavrov - Ukraine meeting Guys, unconfirmed, but from a conversation I just had with a diplomatic journalist of high credibility on messenger. The basic view of the Ukrainians is that nothing really changed in the Lavrov discussions and working level discussions that are following. Western powers are working hard to have Russia commit fully to no further interventions in Ukraine. Crimea has already been written off and the west is signalling that stance to pro Kiev Ukraine. Russia stated they had no interest in escalation, where hoping to de-escalate but laid out the usual provisos. Namely, that Russia reserves the right to act if it sees its interests or ethnic Russian speakers threatened. Nothing new there to be honest. As mentioned yesterday by me, everyone is trying to play nice, at least until the remaining Ukrainian military in Crimea are fully repatriated. The Ukrainians want them back, so will not rock the boat. The Russians want a potential hostile force out of Crimea. So we are currently in a situation where everyone is acting to mutual benefit, consolidating their positions. I was told by a military source today that the potential for military escalation has not diminished one iota and that it is now in the hands of the diplomats. There is behind the scenes discussion today hoping for a breakthrough, but most are pessimistic. However, there is a chance for an announcement later today. Quoting: Janey 55727230 What's concerning to me is I have heard nothing new on the diplomatic front from Russia. It's as if Putin has given Lavrov no room to negotiate. We are hearing the same things out of Lavrov and the Russian Foreign Ministry as we heard weeks ago. It's almost as if they are biding their time. Perhaps until (as you say) all hostile URK forces are out of Crimea or until they have a sufficient pretext (violence against ethnic Russians) to move into the URK mainland. Even if we do hear in the next few days of a diplomatic breakthough, I wouldn't write off this crisis until Russia backs off the URK border. Quoting: Newshunter I agree with you 100% on your analysis. It is like the collective Russian teleprompter is constantly recycling the same script. My gut feeling is there will be no invasion, just intimidation with those forces. I thought Lavrov meeting the Ukrainians was a chink of light in the dark, but it was put to me this morning that opportunity was used as a further tool for the Russians to get their point across. Quoting: Janey 55727230 On the other hand, it could be said that russians are quite consistent and know exactly where they want to go. Perhaps this should be praised rather than ridiculed as a collective teleprompter. Lets see whats on other side of coin. The West. Red line here, no, wait, red line there. This time we mean it, or not. Sanctions or not. Rofl. Point is, russians know where they stand and look as if they have calculated every move. A top athlete will stick to the same shoes and use the same props for certain event. An amature athlete will chop and change shoes, props and would easily change events as well if he was not sure of himself. Teleprompter? Perhaps not Percise athlete? Perhaps yes
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50787029 Costa Rica 03/25/2014 09:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Where is Luisport? Seems like a long time since he last posted. Luis lets us know you are ok.

< DL > User ID: 11619293 United States 03/25/2014 09:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 James Miller‏@MillerMENA·7 mins Russian Historian: Russians Must Oust Putin Rather than Suffer for His Imperial Ambitions [link to DON'T_USE-THIS]
Newshunter User ID: 22884594 United States 03/25/2014 09:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 bruce springnote‏@BSpringnote·12 mins Ukraine border guards head says Russian Army training exercises are over but they aren't leaving. Instead they're moving closer to Ukraine Last Edited by Newshunter on 03/25/2014 09:07 AM
Newshunter User ID: 22884594 United States 03/25/2014 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 bruce springnote‏@BSpringnote·12 mins Ukraine border guards head says Russian Army training exercises are over but they aren't leaving. Instead they're moving closer to Ukraine Quoting: Newshunter This is exactly what Janey and others have been saying. Instead of packing it up and heading back to base, the Russian military is only reinforcing it's presence on the URK border with troops who are fresh off a training cycle . . . ominous
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54888721 Bulgaria 03/25/2014 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 bruce springnote‏@BSpringnote·12 mins Ukraine border guards head says Russian Army training exercises are over but they aren't leaving. Instead they're moving closer to Ukraine Quoting: Newshunter This is exactly what Janey and others have been saying. Instead of packing it up and heading back to base, the Russian military is only reinforcing it's presence on the URK border with troops who are fresh off a training cycle . . . ominous Quoting: Newshunter how far they can see, 20 km, 2 km, what does it mean "closer"
Newshunter User ID: 22884594 United States 03/25/2014 09:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 bruce springnote‏@BSpringnote·12 mins Ukraine border guards head says Russian Army training exercises are over but they aren't leaving. Instead they're moving closer to Ukraine Quoting: Newshunter This is exactly what Janey and others have been saying. Instead of packing it up and heading back to base, the Russian military is only reinforcing it's presence on the URK border with troops who are fresh off a training cycle . . . ominous Quoting: Newshunter how far they can see, 20 km, 2 km, what does it mean "closer" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54888721 I'd bet NATO and US are letting them take a peek at satellite data and not just what the URK border guards can see with binoculars.
Newshunter User ID: 22884594 United States 03/25/2014 09:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 bruce springnote‏@BSpringnote·8 mins Seems like Interior Minister going after Right Sector today. Word that 6-7 of its members arrested in Poltava bruce springnote‏@BSpringnote·2 mins Border guards inform that 8200 people not allowed into Ukraine on Russia's crossing points as part of increased security
WHAT! User ID: 56071414 Croatia 03/25/2014 09:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Morning All, A quick response to the question I was asked with regard to the Russian troop buildup and their numerics. There are about 35,000 Russian troops sat on the borders in the first rank. However, there are considerably more (within about an hour of the border of Ukraine) in multiple file formations. There are also a large number of airbases with paratroops ready to go. So in total, commit forces are about 150,000 give or take a few thousand. Don't just read how many are sat on the border, it's misleading as they are sat in multiple staging points within easy distance. Quoting: Janey 55727230 's girlfriend Where are the actual photos or videos from the scenes You should have those from your sources in NATO headquarters If you haven't could you please stop spreading this propaganda bs Thank you! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56069300 Firstly, I don't spread propaganda for anyone. There are lots of people here who know me who can confirm I impartially report what is happening. That is my day job and I pass it on to everyone here as a courtesy as I know you are all interested. Specifically on your allegation with Russian forces, of course I don't have video or photos. I am a journalist and would not be given such materials if they are sensitive. It wouldn't actually matter if I had them, as such things are easily disputable anyway. However, my sources in NATO (as people who have known me here for some time can attest) are credible and reliable. Further than that, it is hardly propaganda when the Russian military have actually discussed their disposition with the NATO counterparts. Russian military senior staff are not denying the buildup, they are openly acknowledging it. The only contention between NATO and Russia is the goals of that force. If anything I post is ever unconfirmed 100% I will say so. Quoting: Janey 55727230 Why you just keep pushing more lies?! All what you're saying here is nothing but BS! Now, tell us - which part from here you don't understand? Russia is observing all international agreements on troop limits in regions bordering Ukraine, the Russian Deputy Defense Minister said, adding that foreign missions’ inspections can confirm that. The statement was made in response to reports by several foreign media outlets over concentrations of "thousands" of Russian servicemen on the Russian-Ukrainian border. “By the way this issue has during the last month been regularly raised in telephone conversations between Russia’s Minister of Defense Sergey Shoigu, and his foreign counterparts, including US Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel and even acting Ukrainian Defense Minister Igor Tenyukh,” Anatoly Antonov, the Russian Deputy Defense Minister said. Sergey Shoigu has, in a very transparent manner, informed all of them about the real situation on the Russian-Ukrainian border. He also stressed that Russia has no intention to concentrate troops there, Antonov said. The official said eight foreign inspection groups have recently visited Russia. “Our venues and regions, where troops are stationed near Ukrainian borders, have twice been checked by the Ukrainian military,” the Deputy Minister said. “Besides, we have had on our territory inspectors from the US, Canada, Germany, France, Switzerland, Poland, Latvia, Estonia and Finland.” Seven of those eight missions were interested in Russian regions bordering with Ukraine, Antonov said. Foreign inspectors were allowed to talk to chiefs of the Russian military units, make pictures of deployment sites and military vehicles, and control them during relocation. “We did our best to meet our partners’ requests by allowing them to inspect all of the sites they wanted to. We have nothing to hide,” Antonov said. The deputy minister said he was hoping that participants of those inspecting missions would inform their countries’ leaderships of what is really going on at the border between Russia and Ukraine. "We believe this would to large extent facilitate release of tension, something the head of the Pentagon, Hagel, called for during his recent phone conversation with Minister Shoigu.” Addressing media on Sunday, Antonov stressed that Russia and its European partners are equally interested in military cooperation. It is “very easy to ruin what has been done by our countries [in the field of military cooperation] and it will be very difficult to restore relations,” he said. and you, dear 'Janey', call yourself a journalist? .
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54888721 Bulgaria 03/25/2014 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 @lauraphylmills 17m From earlier: Ukraine navy carrying their bags off the warship they surrendered to Russia in Donuzlav lake, Crimea pic.twitter.com/JQmeBP5hE0 @lauraphylmills 18m Ukraine sailors walking off into the distance. This is how a phantom war ends. pic.twitter.com/hBNTKhJmAp Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54888721 I'm a bit novice. Can someone explain the above two reports please? They are clearly a twitter post Is it posted by lauraphylmills? If so, how do we know where this twitt is coming from? And how accurate is it? Am I write in thinking that anyone can twitt anything regarding this even in crimea without it being true? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56070556 you'd better first see the PICTURES before commenting on authenticity. It is retwitted by Boris Zilberman [link to mobile.twitter.com (secure)] Those people have info from THE SPOT. I follow several twits who repost from there. I don't know of better info that are coming from real people. MSM always can have their perspectives from either side. [link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)] [link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)]
< DL > User ID: 11619293 United States 03/25/2014 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 bruce springnote‏@BSpringnote·12 mins Ukraine border guards head says Russian Army training exercises are over but they aren't leaving. Instead they're moving closer to Ukraine Quoting: Newshunter This is exactly what Janey and others have been saying. Instead of packing it up and heading back to base, the Russian military is only reinforcing it's presence on the URK border with troops who are fresh off a training cycle . . . ominous Quoting: Newshunter Just skimming through the last few pages it seems like the majority of you think Russia will not invade Ukraine... You people need to have patience. Putin has been planning this for a long time. So far he's owning the shit out of Obama. This will not stop at Crimea. Russia needs to take parts of Ukraine so they can run supply lines to Crimea. I can tell you with 100% confidence that Russia will move into the Southern and Eastern parts of Ukraine very soon. They either say fuck the world and move into Ukraine right now, or Ukraine cuts water, electricity to Crimea or there is some false flag making it look like Russia no longer has any choice but to move in. Take it to the DOOM bank, Uncle confirms.
< DL > User ID: 11619293 United States 03/25/2014 09:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Russian Market‏@russian_market·4 mins Polish Radio RMF reports that Obama plans to visit Kiev this summer.

Anonymous Coward User ID: 56072824 United Kingdom 03/25/2014 09:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 bruce springnote‏@BSpringnote·12 mins Ukraine border guards head says Russian Army training exercises are over but they aren't leaving. Instead they're moving closer to Ukraine Quoting: Newshunter This is exactly what Janey and others have been saying. Instead of packing it up and heading back to base, the Russian military is only reinforcing it's presence on the URK border with troops who are fresh off a training cycle . . . ominous Quoting: Newshunter how far they can see, 20 km, 2 km, what does it mean "closer" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54888721 Foreign inspectors find no undeclared military activity in Russia threatening neighbours Russia March 23, 17:11 UTC+4 MOSCOW, March 23. /ITAR-TASS/. Russian Defence Ministry observes all international agreements on limits of troops in regions bordering Ukraine, Russian Deputy Defence Minister Anatoly Antonov told Russian reporters on Sunday in comments on reports of several foreign media outlets over concentration of “thousands” of Russian servicemen on Russian-Ukrainian border. As a result of inspections of foreign missions in Russia, including regions bordering Ukraine, foreign inspectors came to conclusion that “Russian Armed Forces do not undertake any undeclared military activity that would threaten security of neighbouring countries,” Antonov noted. [link to en.itar-tass.com]
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56070556 United Kingdom 03/25/2014 09:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Kiev decides to tame eastern Ukraine by foreign mercenaries World March 25, 15:43 UTC+4 Turchynov believes that law enforcement agencies in eastern regions cannot settle the issue of pro-Russian movement themselves, the source says DNEPROPETROVSK, March 25. /ITAR-TASS/. Ukrainian authorities plan to attract US private military company Greystone Limited to suppress protest moods of the mostly Russian-speaking population in the east of the country. According to Ukrainian Security Service, mercenaries will be engaged in political search and protection of state security over inability of Ukrainian law enforcement agencies to curb on leaders and activists of pro-Russian movement independently. This initiative was put forward by oligarchs Ihor Kolomoyskyi, a co-owner of Ukraine’s PrivatBank, and Serhiy Taruta, head of the industrial union of Donbass, a coal basin in eastern Ukraine, as these business tycoons were appointed as governors in central Ukraine’s Dnepropetrovsk region and eastern Ukraine’s Donetsk region, respectively. A source in Ukrainian Security Service which participated in recent special meeting chaired by parliament-appointed interim President Oleksandr Turchynov reported about this fact. “Turchynov believes that law enforcement agencies in eastern regions cannot settle the issue of pro-Russian movement themselves, so they decided to attract foreign mercenaries,” the security official said. “In debates over action plan Kolomoyskyi proposed “not to re-invent a bicycle”, because there are real people who have a clear idea how much and how to pay,” he said. Greystone security service is registered on Caribbean islands Barbados. The company recruits people from different countries through its subsidiary Satelles Solutions Inc. The company promises to its clients to provide “best military from the whole world” to fulfill tasks in any part of the world up to large-scale operations. Private military company Greystone Limited was established 47 years ago and has British roots, as veterans of British commandoes SAS registered a basic organization of mercenaries in 1967. The company was called WatchGuard International and drew attention to itself after an abortive first large-scale operation — an attempt on the life of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi in 1971. Then the organization has undertaken the second operation already with retired US commandoes Navy SEALs during the US war in Iraq in 2003-2011, when major corporations used actively Greystone services. Now Greystone Limited is one of branches of a big mercenary empire in the United States which changes its names constantly, as this was Blackwater until 2009, then Xe Services and Academi and now US Training Center. Murders, shootings of demonstrations, arms smuggling entailed ill fame through all flashpoints in the Middle East, Asia and Africa. Now Ukraine is next in line. But today there is no exact information about the volume of the market of private military services, as it is estimated only approximately at $200 billion annually. US high-ranking officials have always occupied key posts in the empire of soldiers of fortune — from the US State Department Bureau of Counterterrorism, the Central Intelligence Agency’s Counterterrorism Center and US intelligence services. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56072824 And do we think Putin will put up with this shit? I was kinda under the impression that perhaps the west might have accepted their stepping the red line of ukraine and slowly bow out and leave ukraine and russia alone. But I was clearly wrong. Tptb seem to be determined to cause as much damage as possible. And take ukraine even if it means killing 1000s as they have done elsewhere
Sun_dancer User ID: 48671548 United States 03/25/2014 09:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Egypt court hands 529+ death sentences to Muslim brotherhood! Together with 800++ killed during anti-Mubarak revolution. Notice it is the army who is in control now, the so much "respected by people". Putin is an angel compared to that, he didn't kill anyone and allows different views in Russia and abroad. F. the Egyptian terrorist government! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54888721 You either don't know shit about Egypt or a part of the "Muslim cough terrorist cough brotherhood" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56071534 As all received the death penalty for allegedly killing one man, perhaps you can explain to us "brotherhood terrorists" how 528 people can be involved in one man's murder? They stood in line and each took a bit of flesh? Or what? I mean to outside observer it seriously looks like miscarriage of justice. And remember: When Saddam Hussein was put to death, his "crime" was executing about 100 people after a foiled assassination plot against him. Each of these people was also convicted in a court of law and sentenced to death - and Hussein's crime was approving the executions. Sun_dancer
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56072824 United Kingdom 03/25/2014 09:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Deputy Defense Minister held talks with the first deputy head of the General Staff of Ukrainian Policy 25 марта, 17:16 UTC+4 KIEV, March 25. / ITAR-TASS /. First Deputy Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine held talks with Deputy Defense Minister Dmitry Bulgakov General of the Army. Itar-Tass reported in the Ukrainian Defense Ministry. "They discussed the procedure out of the Crimea Ukrainian troops stationed there and their families, as well as the withdrawal of weapons, military equipment and property Armed Forces of Ukraine", - said the source.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54888721 Bulgaria 03/25/2014 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Rift inside the Ukrainian government? @BSpringnote 3h Klitschko gets angry says "we understand(govt) actions have been ineffective, if this continues we can consider a new speaker of parliament" @BSpringnote 2h Admiral Tenuh's resignation as Defense Minister accepted and in his place colonel general Koval appointed.
Newshunter User ID: 22884594 United States 03/25/2014 09:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Joshua Kucera‏@joshuakucera2h Pentagon, Reliant On Russian Airplanes For Afghanistan, Looking At Other Options \| new post @TheBugPit Last Edited by Newshunter on 03/25/2014 09:24 AM
Sun_dancer User ID: 48671548 United States 03/25/2014 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 UkraineInEurope‏@UkraineInEurope·5 hrs @astroehlein: Torture, arbitrary detentions, & irregular armed units allowed to run amok: Welcome to new #Crimea. Quoting: Newshunter Any link? (Real news, not tweets - tweets are BS.) Sun_dancer
goodmockingbird User ID: 3938901 United States 03/25/2014 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Here are Ukr tanks on border with Russia. Pretty fearful! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54888721 Most of those are not tanks, but self-propelled artillery. It would not take much at all to roll right over that border. My heart goes out to those soldiers out there under orders to hold it. I Support Our First Responders
Newshunter User ID: 22884594 United States 03/25/2014 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Morning All, A quick response to the question I was asked with regard to the Russian troop buildup and their numerics. There are about 35,000 Russian troops sat on the borders in the first rank. However, there are considerably more (within about an hour of the border of Ukraine) in multiple file formations. There are also a large number of airbases with paratroops ready to go. So in total, commit forces are about 150,000 give or take a few thousand. Don't just read how many are sat on the border, it's misleading as they are sat in multiple staging points within easy distance. Quoting: Janey 55727230 's girlfriend Where are the actual photos or videos from the scenes You should have those from your sources in NATO headquarters If you haven't could you please stop spreading this propaganda bs Thank you! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56069300 Firstly, I don't spread propaganda for anyone. There are lots of people here who know me who can confirm I impartially report what is happening. That is my day job and I pass it on to everyone here as a courtesy as I know you are all interested. Specifically on your allegation with Russian forces, of course I don't have video or photos. I am a journalist and would not be given such materials if they are sensitive. It wouldn't actually matter if I had them, as such things are easily disputable anyway. However, my sources in NATO (as people who have known me here for some time can attest) are credible and reliable. Further than that, it is hardly propaganda when the Russian military have actually discussed their disposition with the NATO counterparts. Russian military senior staff are not denying the buildup, they are openly acknowledging it. The only contention between NATO and Russia is the goals of that force. If anything I post is ever unconfirmed 100% I will say so. Quoting: Janey 55727230 Why you just keep pushing more lies?! All what you're saying here is nothing but BS! Now, tell us - which part from here you don't understand? Russia is observing all international agreements on troop limits in regions bordering Ukraine, the Russian Deputy Defense Minister said, adding that foreign missions’ inspections can confirm that. The statement was made in response to reports by several foreign media outlets over concentrations of "thousands" of Russian servicemen on the Russian-Ukrainian border. “By the way this issue has during the last month been regularly raised in telephone conversations between Russia’s Minister of Defense Sergey Shoigu, and his foreign counterparts, including US Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel and even acting Ukrainian Defense Minister Igor Tenyukh,” Anatoly Antonov, the Russian Deputy Defense Minister said. Sergey Shoigu has, in a very transparent manner, informed all of them about the real situation on the Russian-Ukrainian border. He also stressed that Russia has no intention to concentrate troops there, Antonov said. The official said eight foreign inspection groups have recently visited Russia. “Our venues and regions, where troops are stationed near Ukrainian borders, have twice been checked by the Ukrainian military,” the Deputy Minister said. “Besides, we have had on our territory inspectors from the US, Canada, Germany, France, Switzerland, Poland, Latvia, Estonia and Finland.” Seven of those eight missions were interested in Russian regions bordering with Ukraine, Antonov said. Foreign inspectors were allowed to talk to chiefs of the Russian military units, make pictures of deployment sites and military vehicles, and control them during relocation. “We did our best to meet our partners’ requests by allowing them to inspect all of the sites they wanted to. We have nothing to hide,” Antonov said. The deputy minister said he was hoping that participants of those inspecting missions would inform their countries’ leaderships of what is really going on at the border between Russia and Ukraine. "We believe this would to large extent facilitate release of tension, something the head of the Pentagon, Hagel, called for during his recent phone conversation with Minister Shoigu.” Addressing media on Sunday, Antonov stressed that Russia and its European partners are equally interested in military cooperation. It is “very easy to ruin what has been done by our countries [in the field of military cooperation] and it will be very difficult to restore relations,” he said. and you, dear 'Janey', call yourself a journalist? . Quoting: WHAT! 56071414 The only thing this article makes clear is that someone is lying. You can either believe the Russian Defense Ministry or NATO/US.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51339005 Romania 03/25/2014 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 I sure hope Western powers play the Bugs Bunny role here.

Anonymous Coward User ID: 54888721 Bulgaria 03/25/2014 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Rift inside the Ukrainian government? @BSpringnote 3h Klitschko gets angry says "we understand(govt) actions have been ineffective, if this continues we can consider a new speaker of parliament" @BSpringnote 2h Admiral Tenuh's resignation as Defense Minister accepted and in his place colonel general Koval appointed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54888721 If there is a new speaker, does it mean the interim president position (that of the speaker) will change too? Not confirmed by MSM! Otherwise tune to CNN for the latest of Malaysian plane!
Newshunter User ID: 22884594 United States 03/25/2014 09:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 UkraineInEurope‏@UkraineInEurope·5 hrs @astroehlein: Torture, arbitrary detentions, & irregular armed units allowed to run amok: Welcome to new #Crimea. Quoting: Newshunter Any link? (Real news, not tweets - tweets are BS.) Quoting: Sun_dancer [link to www.hrw.org]
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56070556 United Kingdom 03/25/2014 09:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 bruce springnote‏@BSpringnote·12 mins Ukraine border guards head says Russian Army training exercises are over but they aren't leaving. Instead they're moving closer to Ukraine Quoting: Newshunter This is exactly what Janey and others have been saying. Instead of packing it up and heading back to base, the Russian military is only reinforcing it's presence on the URK border with troops who are fresh off a training cycle . . . ominous Quoting: Newshunter Just skimming through the last few pages it seems like the majority of you think Russia will not invade Ukraine... You people need to have patience. Putin has been planning this for a long time. So far he's owning the shit out of Obama. This will not stop at Crimea. Russia needs to take parts of Ukraine so they can run supply lines to Crimea. I can tell you with 100% confidence that Russia will move into the Southern and Eastern parts of Ukraine very soon. They either say fuck the world and move into Ukraine right now, or Ukraine cuts water, electricity to Crimea or there is some false flag making it look like Russia no longer has any choice but to move in. Take it to the DOOM bank, Uncle confirms. :Uncl3Right: Quoting: < DL > Oh yes. One way or another putin will take ukraine. Even the west know this. The chess game now is about how he will do it. Putins most important task is not to break international law so as not give any excuse for tptb to attack syria. Tptb task is to wrong foot putin and force him to break international law, so they can go on a killing rampage in syria.
Newshunter User ID: 22884594 United States 03/25/2014 09:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 [link to www.standard.co.uk] Quote: Russia’s foreign minister Sergei Lavrov met with his Ukrainian counterpart Andriy Deshchytsia for the first time yesterday and reportedly demanded constitutional change to give more autonomy for Ukraine’s regions.
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