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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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Kiev forces are shelling civilian targets like the administrative building in Luhansk, which had no military purpose whatsoever
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If the administrative building had "no military purpose whatsoever," the insurgents would not have taken it by brute force. Clearly, the insurgents considered it to be of great military value.
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Naa, they were just being assholes. Go look up Ukrainian Russian cultural historic relations, then you might understand.
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Kiev forces are shelling civilian targets like the administrative building in Luhansk, which had no military purpose whatsoever
 Quoting: Babay

If the administrative building had "no military purpose whatsoever," the insurgents would not have taken it by brute force. Clearly, the insurgents considered it to be of great military value.
 Quoting: Skeptic the First


Actually it was taken for a simbolic purpose and has no military value at all. As well, no one died when the people of Luhansk took it.

So that they could be shelled and bombed into oblivion.
 Quoting: Babay

If the insurgency can only survive by using civilian cities as hostages ("human shields"), it does not deserve to exist.
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Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds?

They are using the resources of the towns they are defending, like in every other military conflict in history. And the population very much supports them.

What you're suggesting is the same as if the germans told to polish resistance fighters during the Warsaw uprising: "oh no, you cant use buildings to your advantage, you have to go outside of the city so we can kill you with less effort".

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The whole eastern half of Ukraine sticks way into the southern section of Russia......and in terms of longitude.......the city of Donetsk is actually farther east than Moscow itself.


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So that they could be shelled and bombed into oblivion.
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If the insurgency can only survive by using civilian cities as hostages ("human shields"), it does not deserve to exist.
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karma will punish you some day
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Very true...and maybe sooner than expected.

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Reasons of War in Ukraine


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clappaclappaclappa
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SICK HELL-RIDER!


This video is just poisonous russian propaganda. Nothing in this video is really true, and hardly any of the speculations have any grounds. How do you know it for sure? Oh well, Ukraine was not one happy nation in 2013, but a Kremlin's colony, ruled by a the Moscow supported, moronic and tyrannic bunch of criminal psychopaths, grimlings, tives and serial killers, --- that is for you one happy nation in no need for revolution!
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The reason the Kiev junto is shelling and bombing and not engaging with their infantry is because they have no effective UKRAINIAN infantry force to do so...

What the Poroshenko junto controls in the form of an army is a 'pick-up army' composed of mostly foreign nationals.

The only difference now is that the with Anglo-Zog alliance in Libya and Syria, they were able to start their war on the civilian population by seizing the presidential place first.

So they can't engage in a straight up infantry fight because officially, this is not yet a multinational NATO effort and their outright criminal nature would be exposed in the form of thousands of non-Ukrainians.

It appears that US advisors are simply deploying infantry as a shield force for rocket and artillery forces to destroy housing and infrastructure. Not a military confrontation but a deliberate effort to destroy the human habitat.

This isn't war. This is Zog Beast shit.
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Stronghold seems to be in Snizhne:
300 NAF elements, 5 APC, ATGMs, air defenses, some claim 120mm rockets (GRAD battery ?)
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The reason the Kiev junto is shelling and bombing and not engaging with their infantry is because they have no effective UKRAINIAN infantry force to do so...

What the Poroshenko junto controls in the form of an army is a 'pick-up army' composed of mostly foreign nationals.

The only difference now is that the with Anglo-Zog alliance in Libya and Syria, they were able to start their war on the civilian population by seizing the presidential place first.

So they can't engage in a straight up infantry fight because officially, this is not yet a multinational NATO effort and their outright criminal nature would be exposed in the form of thousands of non-Ukrainians.

It appears that US advisors are simply deploying infantry as a shield force for rocket and artillery forces to destroy housing and infrastructure. Not a military confrontation but a deliberate effort to destroy the human habitat.

This isn't war. This is Zog Beast shit.
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Total Population: 44,573,205
Available Manpower: 22,244,394
Fit for Service: 15,686,055
Reaching Military Age Annually: 481,313]
Active Frontline Personnel: 160,000
Active Reserve Personnel: 1,000,000

Tanks: 4,112
Armored Fighting Vehicles (AFVs): 6,431
Self-Propelled Guns (SPGs): 1,203
Towed-Artillery: 1,000
Multiple-Launch Rocket Systems (MLRSs): 626

Total Aircraft: 400
Fighters/Interceptors: 116
Fixed-Wing Attack Aircraft: 177
Transport Aircraft: 60
Trainer Aircraft: 113
Helicopters: 124
Attack Helicopters: 39

cut this by 1/3 and it is still a huge force in infrantry and afvs.
It seems that soldiers simple dont want fight thats why they cant smash resistance and thats why they using artilery in great numbers.

btw i have ask for guys from USA what your goverment will do when lets say china will setup a coup in mexico instal there openly hostile goverment for USA and draw them into their military alliance?
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UK warship HMS Montrose departed to Baltic for military exercises to provide 'reassurance' to Eastern European allies

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Let us hope so! So funny to hear Cameron making "demands" to Putin.
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phone conversation between pro russian rebel from slavyansk and his friend

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phone conversation between pro russian rebel from slavyansk and his friend


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russian in translit:

transcript of the first part of the conversation:
"Dlja togo chtoby rasstavit' vse tochki nad i nado poslushat' vot jetot telefonnyj razgovor:
Nachalo:
- Koroche, beregi sebja, beregi pacanov. Vy tam starajtes' pomen'she krovi, pomen'she vsej jetoj hujni. Esli mozhno vse jeto reshat' mirno, nado reshat' mirno. Tol'ko huj ego kak, konechno, ja ne znaju kak. Bljad' , no hochetsja, konechno.
-Bljad'. U menja nastroenie takoe dlja sebja.. ja ne hochu… ja hochu vzjat' suka ukrainskogo rebenka jobnut' ego bljad'.. za odnu nogu jobnut' golovoj ob ugol, na huj. Ja hochu vzjat' ukrainca bljad' i vzjat' gorlo emu bljad' pererezat' kak baranu, bljad'.
….
- U menja i u vseh. Vot takie nastroenija u nas. Otvechaju i ne drognul bljad'.
-Tak, a posle chego jeto u tebja?
- Posle togo, chto tut tvoritsja u nas bljad'.
Nuzhno, vot tut v Slavjanske jeto nuzhno. U nas Slavjansk jeto Stalingrad My tut plennyh uzhe ne berem.
Zashel by v selo kakoe-nibud', vyrezal by zhenshhin na glazah u muzhej i detej by ubil, a potom muzhikov by rasstreljal.
Oni suka ukraincy, oni svidomye, oni razgovarijut po-ukrainski, s takim suka akcentom pidoroskim, kotorye mne ne nravitsja. U nih sovsem drugaja ideologija, bljad'.
Ih nado vyzhigat' i ubivat'…."

I will translate it into english and will post it here,.. so that all of you can see what Ukraine fights against,---the demons.
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Reasons of War in Ukraine


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clappaclappaclappa
 Quoting: mudzo


SICK HELL-RIDER!


This video is just poisonous russian propaganda. Nothing in this video is really true, and hardly any of the speculations have any grounds. How do you know it for sure? Oh well, Ukraine was not one happy nation in 2013, but a Kremlin's colony, ruled by a the Moscow supported, moronic and tyrannic bunch of criminal psychopaths, grimlings, tives and serial killers, --- that is for you one happy nation in no need for revolution!
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I was in Ukraine (east and west) in 2012 and I seen no signs of civil unrest whatsoever, yes people were unhappy with there govt, but most people I spoke to were in agreement that life in the Ukraine was slowly but surely getting better. That was the case until the US decided yet another country that has nothing to do with them, needed a bit of freedumb.

What other speculations are you on about, I,ll see if I can help you out.
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phone conversation between pro russian rebel from slavyansk and his friend


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I will translate it into english and will post it here,.. so that all of you can see what Ukraine fights against,---the demons.
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Who are you tryin to fool? Give it a res allready your inteligent bloke you must've figured out by now that nobody is buyin Kiev stories..

Anyway the more days pass by the more it seems this ATO is one big failure. With the forces they have they should allready take Donetsk but it seems they lose Krasny Liman this morning aswell. Fail after fail...
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clappaclappaclappa
 Quoting: mudzo


SICK HELL-RIDER!


This video is just poisonous russian propaganda. Nothing in this video is really true, and hardly any of the speculations have any grounds. How do you know it for sure? Oh well, Ukraine was not one happy nation in 2013, but a Kremlin's colony, ruled by a the Moscow supported, moronic and tyrannic bunch of criminal psychopaths, grimlings, tives and serial killers, --- that is for you one happy nation in no need for revolution!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58952043


I was in Ukraine (east and west) in 2012 and I seen no signs of civil unrest whatsoever, yes people were unhappy with there govt, but most people I spoke to were in agreement that life in the Ukraine was slowly but surely getting better. That was the case until the US decided yet another country that has nothing to do with them, needed a bit of freedumb.

What other speculations are you on about, I,ll see if I can help you out.
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I am Ukrainian, and have tones of friends and an extended family there. You don't argue with me, for you know nothing!
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I will translate it into english and will post it here,.. so that all of you can see what Ukraine fights against,---the demons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58996315


Who are you tryin to fool? Give it a res allready your inteligent bloke you must've figured out by now that nobody is buyin Kiev stories..

Anyway the more days pass by the more it seems this ATO is one big failure. With the forces they have they should allready take Donetsk but it seems they lose Krasny Liman this morning aswell. Fail after fail...
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You are a FOOL and there is no need to fool you, a fool!
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phone conversation between pro russian rebel from slavyansk and his friend



You are a FOOL and there is no need to fool you, a fool!
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Fail after fail when your gonna liberate Crimea? s226
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Fail after fail when your gonna liberate Crimea? s226
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all your nature is in the post above, demon!
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OK translate this conversation for us I'd like to hear what are the spirits of freedom fighters popcorn
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OK translate this conversation for us I'd like to hear what are the spirits of freedom fighters popcorn
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I will!.. after lunch.
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Fail after fail when your gonna liberate Crimea? s226
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OK translate this conversation for us I'd like to hear what are the spirits of freedom fighters popcorn
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I will!.. after lunch.
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good appetite my friend, meanwhile check how they deal with looters in Lughansk. Wearing "a thief" sign.. laugh

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I know, I'm in high spirits stoner
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Fail after fail when your gonna liberate Crimea? s226
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Ukraine was a German invention of 1917 to steal valuable land from Russia and usurp their food. I think Germany is still owed 10,000,000 eggs LOL. There is no such thing as a Ukrainian, the country is a farce.
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clappaclappaclappa
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SICK HELL-RIDER!


This video is just poisonous russian propaganda. Nothing in this video is really true, and hardly any of the speculations have any grounds. How do you know it for sure? Oh well, Ukraine was not one happy nation in 2013, but a Kremlin's colony, ruled by a the Moscow supported, moronic and tyrannic bunch of criminal psychopaths, grimlings, tives and serial killers, --- that is for you one happy nation in no need for revolution!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58952043


I was in Ukraine (east and west) in 2012 and I seen no signs of civil unrest whatsoever, yes people were unhappy with there govt, but most people I spoke to were in agreement that life in the Ukraine was slowly but surely getting better. That was the case until the US decided yet another country that has nothing to do with them, needed a bit of freedumb.

What other speculations are you on about, I,ll see if I can help you out.
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I am Ukrainian, and have tones of friends and an extended family there. You don't argue with me, for you know nothing!
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I know your country is being used by the NWO as a tool, to get at Moscow. I know the US knew well what would happen when they innitiated a coup in a divided country. And I know the only way the killing will stop is if both sides call a ceasefire and get down to negotiations, as the more people that are killed, then the more the conflict will escalate.
And I know that if Putins intention all along was to invade Ukraine then he would have done so by now.
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Perhaps Russia is collecting data.

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Kiev's military operation in eastern Ukraine has left 181 people killed including 59 of ruling regime troops, and 293 injured, according to the country's prosecutor general Oleg Makhnitsky.

Reports by media including RIA Novosti and ITAR-TASS said:

Kiev 's armed forces have shelled hospitals, orphanage and school. Children have been wounded by the assault.
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slavyansk today. Heavy bombing
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Perhaps Russia is collecting data.

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Kiev's military operation in eastern Ukraine has left 181 people killed including 59 of ruling regime troops, and 293 injured, according to the country's prosecutor general Oleg Makhnitsky.

Reports by media including RIA Novosti and ITAR-TASS said:

Kiev 's armed forces have shelled hospitals, orphanage and school. Children have been wounded by the assault.
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Those figures are BS. Combine with ten times and you get realistic number. Not to mention seperatists who propably got even greater loses.
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slavyansk today. Heavy bombing
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combat near Sloviansjk

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- Basically, take care of yourself, take care of the lads. You there, minimize blood and all this garbage. If all this can be solved peacefully, it must be solved peacefully. But fuck knows how, of course, I do not know how. Damn, but I want to, of course.
-Fuck. I am in such a mood... as to me .. I do not want ... I want to take a Ukrainian child, f**king smash this bitch whore .. holding IT by one leg fucking the head open against the corner, f**k it. I want to take the Ukrainian whore and make his damn throat cut like one of a sheep, damn.
....
- I and all. Here we all have such sentiments. I swear I would not flinch, damn.
-Why are you like that, since when?..?
- After what's happening here, damn.
We need to have such moods here in Slovyansk, we need it. Slovyansk is Stalingrad We're not taking prisoners.
I'd rather to a village of some sort, slaughter the women in front of their husbands and have the children killed, and then I would shoot the men.
They, fucking bitch Ukrainians, they are "svidomye" (fully aware--ukr.), they speak Ukrainian, with such f**king bitch homo accent that I do detest. They have a very different ideology, damn.
They should burnt and killed ...."





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