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Anonymous Coward User ID: 36794394 Croatia 03/26/2014 08:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 RT @20committee: Any overt Russian moves ("land grabs") on Baltics will mean Article 5: War or NATO's de facto dissolution. Just how big a gambler is Putin? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34914226 This goes back to the meaning of "North Atlantic area". And war is not mandatory under Article 5 - read it closely. Possibly one endgame here is for Russia to push for Baltics to leave NATO and together with Ukraine sign security assurances never to joint NATO, leaving a buffer zone between NATO and Russia. As was promised to Russia when USSR dissolved. That would seem OK if we assume that Russia just want to feel and be safe. But why should we assume that and not that Russia is on the long planed expansion trip? |
Newshunter
User ID: 22608763 United States 03/26/2014 08:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 gandalf greybeard ‏@gerrydogma · 2h Russian military train pulling into Klimovo yesterday. 7 miles from northen Ukraine border. [link to youtu.be] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55378407 United Kingdom 03/26/2014 08:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Here are some candidates/ideas, maybe one of our resident artists will step up?: [link to www.thetimes.co.uk] [link to www.silverdoctors.com] [link to www.moodindex.co.uk] [link to i4.mirror.co.uk] [link to spreadhead.files.wordpress.com] [link to spreadhead.files.wordpress.com] [link to blogs.telegraph.co.uk] Interesting. You do know about when the airplane he was in suddenly crashed? (ref. no 3). By emoticon you mean smiley?. Sorry I don't do that. Thinking of the very worn out stuff like Orson Welles and Morgan Freeman, and with reference to one of my previos post (Hump? - What Hump??) Marty Feldman, one could easily make some very nice variations of the this theme "He's wrong you know" with different characters where the message would be implicitly understood by some. The annoyance, for my part anyway if I made some good ones, would be to have to look at them again and again and again. So, what do you think?? Should I do some, in between, just for fun or what?? Take care i cant remember when the crash was, would have to google - but i think it was during the last general election in 2010? yes, dooo some! please! i like laughing nigel and surprised nigel i would use them judiciously |
DawaSatso
User ID: 53681375 United States 03/26/2014 08:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 RT @20committee: Any overt Russian moves ("land grabs") on Baltics will mean Article 5: War or NATO's de facto dissolution. Just how big a gambler is Putin? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34914226 This goes back to the meaning of "North Atlantic area". And war is not mandatory under Article 5 - read it closely. Possibly one endgame here is for Russia to push for Baltics to leave NATO and together with Ukraine sign security assurances never to joint NATO, leaving a buffer zone between NATO and Russia. As was promised to Russia when USSR dissolved. This is an excellent idea. Really is. Only thing this is hard to imagine being "allowed" as part of any conversation which is all one way. Unless the EU begins losing their nerve as events play out and see how much they stand to lose by not doing this. |
Newshunter
User ID: 22608763 United States 03/26/2014 08:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 gandalf greybeard ‏@gerrydogma · 1h CNN : Special forces, airborne troops, air transport units appear to be at a high state of mobilization in other locations in Russia... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55378407 United Kingdom 03/26/2014 08:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 i think obama knows this and this is why we are now getting all this "intel" so obama can act all putin has to do is sit tight and wait for the chaos to consume ukraine, but obama has ant in his pants and must scratch that itch! betcha! |
Sun_dancer
User ID: 48671548 United States 03/26/2014 08:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 RT @20committee: Any overt Russian moves ("land grabs") on Baltics will mean Article 5: War or NATO's de facto dissolution. Just how big a gambler is Putin? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34914226 This goes back to the meaning of "North Atlantic area". And war is not mandatory under Article 5 - read it closely. Possibly one endgame here is for Russia to push for Baltics to leave NATO and together with Ukraine sign security assurances never to joint NATO, leaving a buffer zone between NATO and Russia. As was promised to Russia when USSR dissolved. That would seem OK if we assume that Russia just want to feel and be safe. But why should we assume that and not that Russia is on the long planed expansion trip? You could have said the same about US when they invaded Iraq. I was always very worried that they would also try to take down Iran. And many powerful forces were pushing for that. In this case I think at most Russia will try to reclaim the land carved from it by the Communists - and this based on things said in the past. Of course I don't know 100%, but I think it is extremely unlikely they would go through Poland, less likely than US bombing Iran .... Sun_dancer |
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User ID: 22608763 United States 03/26/2014 08:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 gandalf greybeard ‏@gerrydogma 18m Reuters : "Intelligence information available to policymakers regarding what Putin is thinking... is fragmentary to non-existent." gandalf greybeard ‏@gerrydogma 16m Reuters : U.S. & EU security sources said RU forces deployed on UKR border includes units wearing uniforms lacking insignia or markings |
DawaSatso
User ID: 53681375 United States 03/26/2014 08:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: DawaSatso It's all in the wording. Truth is all movement is worded and interpreted as containing offensive intent and not defensive. As well as those intentions that are understandable and within their rights. We're just not going to hear about those. Demonize your next victim is the only consistent thing I've seen in 14 years (at least). Whatever takes place expect Russia to be framed BADLY in every "news blip" especially from the likes of NATO and phony slants coming in from every direction choking with INFERENCE. They will probably say that Russia invaded some neighboring state and annexed chunk of its territory. Don't believe them. I won't either. Wait! Oh no, I'm sorry I thought you were being sarcastic. My humble apologies for misunderstanding. (my back's up tonight). Jeez, why would You think that? You haven't been demonized by extreme right wing nationalist Nazi fascists by any chance, have you? Ha!Ha!Ha! so I was right after all, apology retracted. Part 2, being direct is an admirable trait to have. Try it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50762036 United States 03/26/2014 08:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 CNN : New classified intelligence assessment concludes it is more likely than previously thought that Russia will invade mainland Ukraine Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55926898 How likely is the real question So likely that CNN brought in some physic and will start coming up with the holographi models aalready |
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Newshunter
User ID: 22608763 United States 03/26/2014 08:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 gandalf greybeard ‏@gerrydogma6m House Armed Services Committee letter to Obama calls "to convene emergency session of the North Atlantic Council..." 1/2 gandalf greybeard ‏@gerrydogma6m "...to request that our NATO enhance their force readiness in the event that an Article V response is required" 2/2 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55493132 United States 03/26/2014 08:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 gandalf greybeard ‏@gerrydogma6m Quoting: Newshunter House Armed Services Committee letter to Obama calls "to convene emergency session of the North Atlantic Council..." 1/2 gandalf greybeard ‏@gerrydogma6m "...to request that our NATO enhance their force readiness in the event that an Article V response is required" 2/2 yeah I saw that, that is what worries me very much |
Kent User ID: 54313590 Norway 03/26/2014 08:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Hi There. You might think WTF has this to do with the crisis going on in Ukraina when you (maybe) take your time to watch this video. You would be dead wrong my friends. Please read the disclaimer underneath the video when you watch it at the You-Tube link. The compilation of facts are astonishing, regardless of the scripture references. Watch at your own discretion and judge for yourself. If I do get the time and inspiration, I might at some point try to compile a somewhat disciplined and short version of my (and a few other peoples) interpretation of these event in a more extensive context. For those of you that recognize this: "Goodbye and thanks for all the fish", it might be easier to get into. Apart from that, I am not quite sure whether this is the right forum to get into particular details. Anyhow, for those of you who watch this video, there will be something for you, wherever, whatever and who you are. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 49923984 United States 03/26/2014 08:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 k, well, a fiver says putin wont be crossing no lines Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55378407 i think obama knows this and this is why we are now getting all this "intel" so obama can act all putin has to do is sit tight and wait for the chaos to consume ukraine, but obama has ant in his pants and must scratch that itch! betcha! Ants no crabs yes. |
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Kent User ID: 54313590 Norway 03/26/2014 08:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Here are some candidates/ideas, maybe one of our resident artists will step up?: [link to www.thetimes.co.uk] [link to www.silverdoctors.com] [link to www.moodindex.co.uk] [link to i4.mirror.co.uk] [link to spreadhead.files.wordpress.com] [link to spreadhead.files.wordpress.com] [link to blogs.telegraph.co.uk] Interesting. You do know about when the airplane he was in suddenly crashed? (ref. no 3). By emoticon you mean smiley?. Sorry I don't do that. Thinking of the very worn out stuff like Orson Welles and Morgan Freeman, and with reference to one of my previos post (Hump? - What Hump??) Marty Feldman, one could easily make some very nice variations of the this theme "He's wrong you know" with different characters where the message would be implicitly understood by some. The annoyance, for my part anyway if I made some good ones, would be to have to look at them again and again and again. So, what do you think?? Should I do some, in between, just for fun or what?? Take care i cant remember when the crash was, would have to google - but i think it was during the last general election in 2010? yes, dooo some! please! i like laughing nigel and surprised nigel i would use them judiciously Sorry, the airplaine thing was not me. Apart from that, I will do some tomorrow, with suggestions of text, layout in the sizes and resolutions accepted on this board, and would appreciate some feedback then ok? Take care |
DawaSatso
User ID: 53681375 United States 03/26/2014 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Hi There. Quoting: Kent 54313590 You might think WTF has this to do with the crisis going on in Ukraina when you (maybe) take your time to watch this video. You would be dead wrong my friends. Please read the disclaimer underneath the video when you watch it at the You-Tube link. The compilation of facts are astonishing, regardless of the scripture references. Watch at your own discretion and judge for yourself. If I do get the time and inspiration, I might at some point try to compile a somewhat disciplined and short version of my (and a few other peoples) interpretation of these event in a more extensive context. For those of you that recognize this: "Goodbye and thanks for all the fish", it might be easier to get into. Apart from that, I am not quite sure whether this is the right forum to get into particular details. Anyhow, for those of you who watch this video, there will be something for you, wherever, whatever and who you are. Maybe you could begin your own thread about this. Yah, off topic but a good topic for another thread. :) |
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Newshunter
User ID: 22608763 United States 03/26/2014 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Great. Now we got columns of Russian .mil just outside of the URK border maneuvering at night. This is the first video I've seen since this whole thing flared up where Russian .mil has been filed on the move in the evening. Jerry Popowicz ‏@JerryPopowicz 11m VIDEO: Columns of Russian Army Trucks move at night through Novozybkov, Bryansk Oblast (March 26) [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] … #Ukraine |
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The Endless Watchers
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User ID: 22608763 United States 03/26/2014 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 John Schindler ‏@20committee · 3h On Russian state TV tonight, top RU FP expert Fedor Lukyanov hailed Obama's #Ukraine speech as "simply golden words": not a good sign, folks |
Sun_dancer
User ID: 48671548 United States 03/26/2014 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Great. Now we got columns of Russian .mil just outside of the URK border maneuvering at night. This is the first video I've seen since this whole thing flared up where Russian .mil has been filed on the move in the evening. Quoting: Newshunter Jerry Popowicz ‏@JerryPopowicz 11m VIDEO: Columns of Russian Army Trucks move at night through Novozybkov, Bryansk Oblast (March 26) [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] … #Ukraine I vote Brzezinski and the neo-cons go stop them Last Edited by Sun_dancer on 03/26/2014 08:56 PM Sun_dancer |
ClydeX
User ID: 11310285 United States 03/26/2014 08:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 gandalf greybeard ‏@gerrydogma6m Quoting: Newshunter House Armed Services Committee letter to Obama calls "to convene emergency session of the North Atlantic Council..." 1/2 gandalf greybeard ‏@gerrydogma6m "...to request that our NATO enhance their force readiness in the event that an Article V response is required" 2/2 yeah I saw that, that is what worries me very much Yep - they're setting the stage........ Sonsobitches are going to get us all killed before it's over. Job 12:7) But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee: 8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee. |