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I thought Crimea was liberated and now they enjoy Russian freedom, so why are there checkpoints and spetsnaz troops, to begin with?
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Maybe you should stop thinking if this is the outcome
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Meanwhile you can learn to think for yourself, unless you prepared a red flag with hammer and sickle to welcome the Russian troops when they will enter Germany.
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I volunteer!
The ultimate fight Good vs. Bad again, but this time Germany doesnt fight alone against the rest of the world, this time Good will win.
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You are a "good" commie? When Soiviets entered Germany during WWII they raped lots of German women and lots of kids born after the war were in fact half Russians, so you might be one of them.
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Yes! 'trouble' is in the air today here! ...


Titushki have been clearly spotted by many locals, with armbands on and armed with bats and sticks, unloading from buses and vans in multiple locations on both Kyiv and Kharkiv. Its all over the locals' twitter and facebook right now. Everyone very paranoid and scared. Shit is getting real today anytime now.

I am going out with maidan Self Defense today, in just a few minutes with bat and shield and helmet. We have to help stop this. Good luck everyone.
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It's too good to be true
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Yes! 'trouble' is in the air today here! ...


Titushki have been clearly spotted by many locals, with armbands on and armed with bats and sticks, unloading from buses and vans in multiple locations on both Kyiv and Kharkiv. Its all over the locals' twitter and facebook right now. Everyone very paranoid and scared. Shit is getting real today anytime now.

I am going out with maidan Self Defense today, in just a few minutes with bat and shield and helmet. We have to help stop this. Good luck everyone.
 Quoting: Ukraine 35370080


Thanks for saying the truth and geting the record straight for all the GLP pro Russian shills!
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Yes! 'trouble' is in the air today here! ...


Titushki have been clearly spotted by many locals, with armbands on and armed with bats and sticks, unloading from buses and vans in multiple locations on both Kyiv and Kharkiv. Its all over the locals' twitter and facebook right now. Everyone very paranoid and scared. Shit is getting real today anytime now.

I am going out with maidan Self Defense today, in just a few minutes with bat and shield and helmet. We have to help stop this. Good luck everyone.
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I hope next men will be unloading with RPK and RPG
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Ukraine at end of video

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Yes! 'trouble' is in the air today here! ...


Titushki have been clearly spotted by many locals, with armbands on and armed with bats and sticks, unloading from buses and vans in multiple locations on both Kyiv and Kharkiv. Its all over the locals' twitter and facebook right now. Everyone very paranoid and scared. Shit is getting real today anytime now.

I am going out with maidan Self Defense today, in just a few minutes with bat and shield and helmet. We have to help stop this. Good luck everyone.
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Yep I'm hearing about that on my twitter feed right now. The regular maidan Sunday rally in Kiev has been canceled last minute for today because of it. A 'terror alert' was sent out. Sounds bad. Good luck to you and kick some butt.
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When you say "kick some butt", what do mean exactly?
The butt of one of Obama's sick jokes perhaps?
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Listen to this shill spreading laughable lies made in Russia:

4:52 "The head of the right sector is assembling a hit squad called Donbas. Once it's assembled he's going to target us. We are just unarmed people who are simply trying to protect our legitimate interests. He's made an announcement promising to pat ordinary soldiers 1,000 dollars and officers 5,000 dollars"

Now why would a soldier die for a fifth of the money an officer would die and why all Ukrainian soldiers and officers defected to pro Russians instead of taking the opportunity to get so many dollars? Maybe the wanted to be paid in roubles?
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Jesus Christ, but you cheerleaders never stop.

Everything that pro Russian people say is a lie, whereas when it's Western people saying the exact same type of things, you don't come here to comment on them, or point them out as being true.

Fact is, I've seen plenty of VIDEOS of people, normal people, not Russian Spetsnaz, clamining that Kiev are fascists and they're just carrying US orders. Are they all liers ?
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I can't comment on the pay scale, but I'm guessing he's most likely wrong with what he's asserting.

Interesting he didn't comment on the soldiers handing over their weapons.

it appears that at this rate, Ukraine will be totally disarmed before they even get started.
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Soldiers could have kept their weapons to get 1,000 dolars, but they chose to give their weapons for free, that is to save themselves from the angry mob! And BTW that's called deserting and is punished with death by military law.
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LOL Anonymous Coward 37082551, you blood thirsty kiev-paid provocateur, it is the present not-elected government that gave orders to kill their own citizens, that should be put to some serious sentence, and still not the death penalty. It's 21 century, people have jobs families, have wised up and do not want your atrocity provoking kind.

Probably your from a bad seed involved in serious massacres maybe against the Poles on behalf of nazis. Am i guessing right or your hateful speech is just to get paid by your puppeteers.

But just keep talking - you reveal a lot about your agenda points.
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Do you enjoy kicking people?
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Do you enjoy kicking people?
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NO, this shitpieces enjoy burning people........
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Euromaidan PR @EuromaidanPR
Social media is abuzz with report of provocateurs (tithushki) creating havoc in Kyiv & to avoid central area today
[link to twitter.com (secure)]


Euromaidan PR @EuromaidanPR
#automaidan call center report suspicious activity in Kyiv
+38(067)1113112 +38(063)1114112 +38(099)1115112


Anders Östlund @andersostlund
Please retweet! Warning for Russian terror in Kyiv today! Titushki already present and ready to act.


bruce springnote @BSpringnote
Maidan organizers telling ppl not to come for meetings in Kiev and Harkiv today for fear of provocations. If not Kiev where ?
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Yes! 'trouble' is in the air today here! ...


Titushki have been clearly spotted by many locals, with armbands on and armed with bats and sticks, unloading from buses and vans in multiple locations on both Kyiv and Kharkiv. Its all over the locals' twitter and facebook right now. Everyone very paranoid and scared. Shit is getting real today anytime now.

I am going out with maidan Self Defense today, in just a few minutes with bat and shield and helmet. We have to help stop this. Good luck everyone.
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Thanks for saying the truth and geting the record straight for all the GLP pro Russian shills!
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I don't have a clue what country you are from, but in the US shills are employed by the gooberment.

it just so happens that 100% of our "elected" representatives in the US are anti-Russian fyi.
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Jesus Christ, but you cheerleaders never stop.

Everything that pro Russian people say is a lie, whereas when it's Western people saying the exact same type of things, you don't come here to comment on them, or point them out as being true.

Fact is, I've seen plenty of VIDEOS of people, normal people, not Russian Spetsnaz, clamining that Kiev are fascists and they're just carrying US orders. Are they all liers ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 916370


I can't comment on the pay scale, but I'm guessing he's most likely wrong with what he's asserting.

Interesting he didn't comment on the soldiers handing over their weapons.

it appears that at this rate, Ukraine will be totally disarmed before they even get started.
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


Soldiers could have kept their weapons to get 1,000 dolars, but they chose to give their weapons for free, that is to save themselves from the angry mob! And BTW that's called deserting and is punished with death by military law.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37082551


LOL Anonymous Coward 37082551, you blood thirsty kiev-paid provocateur, it is the present not-elected government that gave orders to kill their own citizens, that should be put to some serious sentence, and still not the death penalty. It's 21 century, people have jobs families, have wised up and do not want your atrocity provoking kind.

Probably your from a bad seed involved in serious massacres maybe against the Poles on behalf of nazis. Am i guessing right or your hateful speech is just to get paid by your puppeteers.

But just keep talking - you reveal a lot about your agenda points.
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You might have missed that the "elected" Yanucovitch was a top criminal that was supporting his masters, the oligarchs, and broght the life standard of Ukrainians to the floor level while leaving an empty treasury.
I'm pleased whenever I see that a shill having no arguments resorts to thius kind of hollow rethoric!
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Sad to see those dead folks but do normal situations like that result in contorted corpses? Seemed extreme in terms of, well, why couldn't they get a camera inside??

And the one who said "first team sets fires and murders, then second dupes guard and are then attacked by arriving cops/army, is telling some true tactics, it's shameful to use kids and elders in war you billionaire shits.
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@PierreCrom 5m
ProRus convoy on the move again, heading north #slaviansk
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Really strange wonder where they heading and whats the target??
Either they try to flee or they want to attack someone..
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Maybe they come to help some pro russian militias units to escape from Slaviansk?
Could it be the trigger of a military Russian intervention.
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/watch?v=3BEpOT6_nOU

this video shows duchenuts lighting the entrance on fire.

I think these oafs are seen as "useful" by Newland's crew? God these people are dumb, they've gone and done a huge error here, its sad, I hope Russians will chill they don't need to defend Moscow again, just everybody chill and stop listening to each others phone calls and shit.
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Today march in Kiev and Kharkiv cancelled?

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#Kramatorsk - 4 major factories closed - affecting the employment of some 50 000 people
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The wonderful IMF reform program for ukraine:
[link to www.imf.org]
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So, no one of you cheerleaders comments on this ? I bet you skipped this one.

I have seen 3 different programs being implemented and have good finance background, so, I will comment on this and explain what the implementation parts of the program means to anyone who's not familiar with finances to be able to understand.

IMF Survey: Does the program envisage too much fiscal austerity?
Moghadam: It’s important to recognize the starting point. Without measures, the combined deficit of the government and Naftogaz would have reached an impossible-to-finance 12 percent of GDP in 2014, undermining confidence in public finances. (...)


Ok, so starting point is: Portugal, which has one of the highest DEBT to GDP ratios in the EU, started the program with a very fucked up economy. Deficit was around 8% of GDP. Now, Ukraine is starting with 12%. This means Ukraine's economy is pretty much destroyed at the moment.
This means that even though Portuguese program is very aggressive on tax increases and salary reductions, it is nothing compared to what Ukraine is going to experience in the very near future.

IMF Survey: What are the chief measures to reduce the fiscal deficit?
Moghadam: The authorities have proposed that the initial phase of fiscal adjustment rely on a mix of expenditure and revenue measures, with emphasis on the former.


ROFLing my fucking ass off. With emphasis on the former ?
That's just a total lie.
They said the same in Portugal, and you know what happened ? Even though they indeed adjusted expenditure (by closing schools, hospitals, courts and other relevant public services and strongly reducing salaries), the main focus was on revenue. You know, Revenue adjustment is no more than an euphemism for Tax increases. It's just that, extraordinary taxes on middle class citizen earnings.

IMF Survey: How significantly will gas and heating tariffs increase?
Moghadam: Energy prices in Ukraine are exceptionally low. Currently, the gas price for households in Ukraine is $85 for one thousand cubic meter. In Russia—a gas producing and exporting economy—the price is $158 for one thousand cubic meter. The regional differences are even larger with prices in Ukraine being 4 to 9 times lower than in neighboring gas-importing economies. In January 2014, Romania’s citizens paid about $ 414, Moldova’s $ 432, and Poland’s $ 687 for one thousand cubic meter.


You know, deluded citizens might think, if energy costs rise, I will pay a bit more on energy bills and that's fine.
The problem is that factories and companies all over use energy. In fact, their costs with energy are a lot more relevant than the average joe.
Their profit margins are fixed, and energy costs are part of the price calculation for goods.
Now, when companies start getting heavy increases on energy bill, what is going to happen is all prices will increase dramatically. It's just that, plain, obvious, simple.

IMF Survey: How will the most vulnerable be protected under the program?
Moghadam: Although energy price increases are moderate and from a low starting level, it is important to cushion the impact on low-income families, so the government has embarked on an ambitious new social protection program. Eligible families will receive a benefit equal to the difference between pre-and post-increase gas and heating bills. In total, 4.5 million families—about 27 percent of the total—will be receiving government support to shield them from tariff increases through existing and new social assistance schemes.


What a nice fog they have here. If they were to give the same they are taking, how would deficit reduce ?
Now people with very low income might get help, but the problem is, middle class is not going to get that. Middle class will be the target of all the theft.
Lazy people who don't work, or people who are able to hide their incomes from revenue, are the ones who will be getting those benefits, while middle class gets taxed into oblivion.

MF Survey: How will corruption be addressed in the program?
Moghadam: Given long-standing challenges that have weakened Ukraine’s economy, strengthening governance, enhancing transparency, and improving the business climate will be central elements of the program. Policy measures in these areas will include the adoption of a new procurement law to reduce exemptions from regular competitive procedures, measures to facilitate value-added tax refunds for businesses, and high-frequency audits of Naftogaz’s accounts.


They said all that here too. Fact is corruption still goes on in full scale. Especially on local administration, as well as central administration.
These people are the ones with the power to protect themselves from anti-corruption measures, so they will play out the IMF (who doesn't give a shit about that anyway)to protect themselves, while getting the money from middle class and presenting the result Ms. Lagarde wants them to present.

So, basically this is what's going to happen:

In two years time, taxes are going to increase overall expenditure by 25%, while salaries will be reduced 30-40%. This is calculated based on a slightly lighter scenario I've seen in Portugal. It could be worse in Ukraine though, because of the economy being so fucked up.

You will very quickly know the tremendous error you have committed.

Russia had the means to help you way better than IMF, they could provide you with energy and prevent massive price increases. Now, adding to civil war, you will face impossible cost of living.

My personal opinion is that the people, the masses, are dumb, they simply have no clue, and with all the propaganda it's hard to resist. But, I can't help it but feel that you're getting what you deserve in Ukraine.
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Yes! 'trouble' is in the air today here! ...


Titushki have been clearly spotted by many locals, with armbands on and armed with bats and sticks, unloading from buses and vans in multiple locations on both Kyiv and Kharkiv. Its all over the locals' twitter and facebook right now. Everyone very paranoid and scared. Shit is getting real today anytime now.

I am going out with maidan Self Defense today, in just a few minutes with bat and shield and helmet. We have to help stop this. Good luck everyone.
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It's an AK47 you need.
I promise you — promise you — that you will die. And what's more, I promise you that the day you really, truly, with all
your heart grasp the fact that you will eventually die will be the day you wake the fuck up and begin crafting a life that
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#Kramatorsk - 4 major factories closed - affecting the employment of some 50 000 people
 Quoting: tmorais


The wonderful IMF reform program for ukraine:
[link to www.imf.org]
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So, no one of you cheerleaders comments on this ? I bet you skipped this one.

I have seen 3 different programs being implemented and have good finance background, so, I will comment on this and explain what the implementation parts of the program means to anyone who's not familiar with finances to be able to understand.

IMF Survey: Does the program envisage too much fiscal austerity?
Moghadam: It’s important to recognize the starting point. Without measures, the combined deficit of the government and Naftogaz would have reached an impossible-to-finance 12 percent of GDP in 2014, undermining confidence in public finances. (...)


Ok, so starting point is: Portugal, which has one of the highest DEBT to GDP ratios in the EU, started the program with a very fucked up economy. Deficit was around 8% of GDP. Now, Ukraine is starting with 12%. This means Ukraine's economy is pretty much destroyed at the moment.
This means that even though Portuguese program is very aggressive on tax increases and salary reductions, it is nothing compared to what Ukraine is going to experience in the very near future.

IMF Survey: What are the chief measures to reduce the fiscal deficit?
Moghadam: The authorities have proposed that the initial phase of fiscal adjustment rely on a mix of expenditure and revenue measures, with emphasis on the former.


ROFLing my fucking ass off. With emphasis on the former ?
That's just a total lie.
They said the same in Portugal, and you know what happened ? Even though they indeed adjusted expenditure (by closing schools, hospitals, courts and other relevant public services and strongly reducing salaries), the main focus was on revenue. You know, Revenue adjustment is no more than an euphemism for Tax increases. It's just that, extraordinary taxes on middle class citizen earnings.

IMF Survey: How significantly will gas and heating tariffs increase?
Moghadam: Energy prices in Ukraine are exceptionally low. Currently, the gas price for households in Ukraine is $85 for one thousand cubic meter. In Russia—a gas producing and exporting economy—the price is $158 for one thousand cubic meter. The regional differences are even larger with prices in Ukraine being 4 to 9 times lower than in neighboring gas-importing economies. In January 2014, Romania’s citizens paid about $ 414, Moldova’s $ 432, and Poland’s $ 687 for one thousand cubic meter.


You know, deluded citizens might think, if energy costs rise, I will pay a bit more on energy bills and that's fine.
The problem is that factories and companies all over use energy. In fact, their costs with energy are a lot more relevant than the average joe.
Their profit margins are fixed, and energy costs are part of the price calculation for goods.
Now, when companies start getting heavy increases on energy bill, what is going to happen is all prices will increase dramatically. It's just that, plain, obvious, simple.

IMF Survey: How will the most vulnerable be protected under the program?
Moghadam: Although energy price increases are moderate and from a low starting level, it is important to cushion the impact on low-income families, so the government has embarked on an ambitious new social protection program. Eligible families will receive a benefit equal to the difference between pre-and post-increase gas and heating bills. In total, 4.5 million families—about 27 percent of the total—will be receiving government support to shield them from tariff increases through existing and new social assistance schemes.


What a nice fog they have here. If they were to give the same they are taking, how would deficit reduce ?
Now people with very low income might get help, but the problem is, middle class is not going to get that. Middle class will be the target of all the theft.
Lazy people who don't work, or people who are able to hide their incomes from revenue, are the ones who will be getting those benefits, while middle class gets taxed into oblivion.

MF Survey: How will corruption be addressed in the program?
Moghadam: Given long-standing challenges that have weakened Ukraine’s economy, strengthening governance, enhancing transparency, and improving the business climate will be central elements of the program. Policy measures in these areas will include the adoption of a new procurement law to reduce exemptions from regular competitive procedures, measures to facilitate value-added tax refunds for businesses, and high-frequency audits of Naftogaz’s accounts.


They said all that here too. Fact is corruption still goes on in full scale. Especially on local administration, as well as central administration.
These people are the ones with the power to protect themselves from anti-corruption measures, so they will play out the IMF (who doesn't give a shit about that anyway)to protect themselves, while getting the money from middle class and presenting the result Ms. Lagarde wants them to present.

So, basically this is what's going to happen:

In two years time, taxes are going to increase overall expenditure by 25%, while salaries will be reduced 30-40%. This is calculated based on a slightly lighter scenario I've seen in Portugal. It could be worse in Ukraine though, because of the economy being so fucked up.

You will very quickly know the tremendous error you have committed.

Russia had the means to help you way better than IMF, they could provide you with energy and prevent massive price increases. Now, adding to civil war, you will face impossible cost of living.

My personal opinion is that the people, the masses, are dumb, they simply have no clue, and with all the propaganda it's hard to resist. But, I can't help it but feel that you're getting what you deserve in Ukraine.
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Never liked IMF and the IMF reform programs were very painfull for people, but what's the alternative? Which country is going to lend money to a bankrupt Ukraine? Is bankrupt America going to do that?
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So, basically this is what's going to happen:

In two years time, taxes are going to increase overall expenditure by 25%, while salaries will be reduced 30-40%. This is calculated based on a slightly lighter scenario I've seen in Portugal. It could be worse in Ukraine though, because of the economy being so fucked up.

You will very quickly know the tremendous error you have committed.

Russia had the means to help you way better than IMF, they could provide you with energy and prevent massive price increases. Now, adding to civil war, you will face impossible cost of living.

My personal opinion is that the people, the masses, are dumb, they simply have no clue, and with all the propaganda it's hard to resist. But, I can't help it but feel that you're getting what you deserve in Ukraine.
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Hard to argue, IMF are dickhead usurers. But, Soviet East German systems and Generals not better.
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Yes! 'trouble' is in the air today here! ...


Titushki have been clearly spotted by many locals, with armbands on and armed with bats and sticks, unloading from buses and vans in multiple locations on both Kyiv and Kharkiv. Its all over the locals' twitter and facebook right now. Everyone very paranoid and scared. Shit is getting real today anytime now.

I am going out with maidan Self Defense today, in just a few minutes with bat and shield and helmet. We have to help stop this. Good luck everyone.
 Quoting: Ukraine 35370080


Thanks for saying the truth and geting the record straight for all the GLP pro Russian shills!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37082551


I don't have a clue what country you are from, but in the US shills are employed by the gooberment.

it just so happens that 100% of our "elected" representatives in the US are anti-Russian fyi.
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I am not so sure about your last point there RTS.
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Middle class will be the target of all the theft.
Lazy people who don't work, or people who are able to hide their incomes from revenue, are the ones who will be getting those benefits, while middle class gets taxed into oblivion.

[...]

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This nugget in your wall of text speaks vlumes to many on GLP, hehe, but I do not see "work makes you free" as a suitable slogan.
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So, basically this is what's going to happen:

In two years time, taxes are going to increase overall expenditure by 25%, while salaries will be reduced 30-40%. This is calculated based on a slightly lighter scenario I've seen in Portugal. It could be worse in Ukraine though, because of the economy being so fucked up.

You will very quickly know the tremendous error you have committed.

Russia had the means to help you way better than IMF, they could provide you with energy and prevent massive price increases. Now, adding to civil war, you will face impossible cost of living.

My personal opinion is that the people, the masses, are dumb, they simply have no clue, and with all the propaganda it's hard to resist. But, I can't help it but feel that you're getting what you deserve in Ukraine.
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Hard to argue, IMF are dickhead usurers. But, Soviet East German systems and Generals not better.
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Russia has the experience in creating a strong, competitive and debt free economy.

IMF is specialist in developing debt addicted Frankenstein economies. They're like western pharmaceutical companies. If they cure you, how will they make money on selling their product ?
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The fact that the Russian military hasn't gone in I find unbelievable, frankly. Something smells wrong about this. Putin would have killed them ALL by now if he wasn't being held back......

American mercs killing RUSSIANS? NOTHING?

There is something bigger to this.
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I can't comment on the pay scale, but I'm guessing he's most likely wrong with what he's asserting.

Interesting he didn't comment on the soldiers handing over their weapons.

it appears that at this rate, Ukraine will be totally disarmed before they even get started.
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Soldiers could have kept their weapons to get 1,000 dolars, but they chose to give their weapons for free, that is to save themselves from the angry mob! And BTW that's called deserting and is punished with death by military law.
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LOL Anonymous Coward 37082551, you blood thirsty kiev-paid provocateur, it is the present not-elected government that gave orders to kill their own citizens, that should be put to some serious sentence, and still not the death penalty. It's 21 century, people have jobs families, have wised up and do not want your atrocity provoking kind.

Probably your from a bad seed involved in serious massacres maybe against the Poles on behalf of nazis. Am i guessing right or your hateful speech is just to get paid by your puppeteers.

But just keep talking - you reveal a lot about your agenda points.
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You might have missed that the "elected" Yanucovitch was a top criminal that was supporting his masters, the oligarchs, and broght the life standard of Ukrainians to the floor level while leaving an empty treasury.
I'm pleased whenever I see that a shill having no arguments resorts to thius kind of hollow rethoric!
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God damn you must be a very low paid shill, your propaganda is very blatant.
He was elected. Not like the terrorist gobbermint in Kiev right now. Against all international and national laws. Stop the double talk, its getting old and because of this nobody falls for it any longer.
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Russia has the experience in creating a strong, competitive and debt free economy.

IMF is specialist in developing debt addicted Frankenstein economies. They're like western pharmaceutical companies. If they cure you, how will they make money on selling their product ?
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People need not ideology, they need goodness. You are right about IMF, total debt mongering shits. I advocate debt forgiveness but Russia needs to pay gramma and so needs to collect gas bill from Ukraine peeps? Hmm, damn gas bills. UK has corporate body that control the East Coast USA firmly as well.
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The fact that the Russian military hasn't gone in I find unbelievable, frankly. Something smells wrong about this. Putin would have killed them ALL by now if he wasn't being held back......

American mercs killing RUSSIANS? NOTHING?

There is something bigger to this.
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Maybe he is just sweatin' them. Wait until they show signs of really believing that Russia won't do anything. Who knows? I would say that this does not appear to be something planned and executed on the spur of the moment. Putin has objectives, I have a feeling that he will accomplish them.
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The fact that the Russian military hasn't gone in I find unbelievable, frankly. Something smells wrong about this. Putin would have killed them ALL by now if he wasn't being held back......

American mercs killing RUSSIANS? NOTHING?

There is something bigger to this.
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Maybe he is just sweatin' them. Wait until they show signs of really believing that Russia won't do anything. Who knows? I would say that this does not appear to be something planned and executed on the spur of the moment. Putin has objectives, I have a feeling that he will accomplish them.
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Some body counts don't get 'acted on', and some do. Whilest Bangladesh was being raped, the Manson trial is the USA served as distraction.
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Odessa! Kulikovo Field announces full mobilization on May 4, Sunday May 4 at 14:00 on the Kulikovo field, on which members of the movement will make a plan of action.
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proUKR?





GLP