Godlike Productions - Discussion Forum
Users Online Now: 1,280 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 289,659
Pageviews Today: 365,873Threads Today: 67Posts Today: 1,094
03:16 AM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

 Thread Locked 
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 67325314
Sweden
01/24/2015 03:18 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
I must say farewell to this thread, like in Hogan's Heroes, i have been ordered to the Aegean Front.
 Quoting: Udo Atlas 67327490



Why that?
KneelB4Zod!

User ID: 11473197
Czechia
01/24/2015 03:18 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

hiding
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
________________________________________________________​__________________
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
____________________________________________________________​______________

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 67293036
Portugal
01/24/2015 03:19 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Roland Oliphant @RolandOliphant · 3 min Há 3 minutos
One very lucky driver. Dashcam footage purportedly of the grad strike on Mariupol today.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 67210201
Switzerland
01/24/2015 03:19 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
THIS should settle the troll war:
They WERE firing at a military target, Checkpoint 14, and the wind caught the rockets.



Spot report by the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine (SMM), 24 January 2015: Shelling Incident on Olimpiiska Street in Mariupol MARIUPOL 24 January 2015

Where We Are: OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine What We Do: Conflict prevention and resolution

This report is provided for the media and general public.

At approximately 09:15hrs on 24 January, the SMM in government-controlled Mariupol heard at its location incoming massed Multi-Launch Rocket System (MLRS) attacks from a north-east direction, consisting of an extremely heavy barrage lasting 35 seconds. Twenty minutes later the SMM received information from the Joint Centre for Control and Co-ordination (JCCC) in Mariupol and other sources, that shelling had occurred in the area of Olimpiiska Street, in Ordzhonikidzevskyi district, 8.5 km north-east of Mariupol city centre, approximately 400 metres from a Ukrainian Armed Forces checkpoint.

At 10:20hrs the SMM went to Olimpiiska Street and saw seven adult civilians dead. The SMM observed in an area of 1.6 km by 1.1 km, including an open market, multiple impacts on buildings, retail shops, homes and a school. The SMM observed cars on fire and windows facing the north-eastern side of a nine-storey building shattered. The SMM was able to count 19 rocket strikes and is certain there are more. Four hospitals and the emergency service in the city informed the SMM that at least 20 people died and 75 people were injured and hospitalized. Ten of the wounded were in a critical condition, according to a hospital representative.

The SMM conducted a crater analysis and its initial assessment showed that the impacts were caused by Grad and Uragan rockets. According to the impact analysis, the Grad rockets originated from a north-easterly direction, in the area of Oktyabr (19 km north-east of Olimpiiska Street), and the Uragan rockets from an easterly direction, in the area of Zaichenko (15 km east of Olimpiiska Street), both controlled by the “Donetsk People’s Republic” (“DPR”).

At 13:02hrs and 13:21hrs the SMM heard again incoming MLRS salvos lasting for eight seconds, from an easterly direction. At a distance of 300 metres the SMM saw smoke above the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ checkpoint number 14 (8.9 km north-east of Mariupol city centre), just several hundred metres away from where the shelling had hit in Olimpiiska Street.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66510556

You are an abject embarrassment to the RussoShill community. This is the dumbest , poorest attempt at a propaganda post I've ever seen on this thread.

The 2 zods: you need to get control of your intern shills, they are making you look more inept than you already are.
chucklechucklechucklechucklechucklechucklechucklechuckle
ButlerianJihadist

User ID: 62247396
Serbia
01/24/2015 03:21 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Hinden owned
damn it is so nice

fuckyeah5
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67325065


It happens all the time. He's like a punching bag or something.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 67322328
Norway
01/24/2015 03:22 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Dashcam footage of the Mariupol shelling


 Quoting: hIndsIght2020



Look on these buildings and then look where on map this is

NOW YOU SEE THAT ROCKETS FLEW FROM RIGHT SIDE OF MAP

FROM UKIE HELD TERRITORY MORAN


YOU FAIL
tool
propoganda
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67325065


Might I trouble you for some links?
 Quoting: hIndsIght2020


The only fact regarding this video is that it is stamped with the date January 1.st 2011. If it really is more recent because the camera was not adjusted to the present time, that has to be factually proved.

Until then, it is worthless as evidence in the present situation in Mariupol.

Take care
Kent
KipKat

User ID: 25952351
Netherlands
01/24/2015 03:23 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
@zod

You almost did it, but you're still hiding behind 'IF the report yada yada...'!
I clearly left it up to you to pick any case you actually condemned, not an if/but/maybe case!

Try again!

(Hint:Maybe condemn Strelkov for his illegal execution orders? Just a hint, there are more things but I leave it up to you to choose from)
:kkwapper:
Kanadski

User ID: 3886841
Canada
01/24/2015 03:24 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
...


I certainly disagree, it surely isn't a Ukrainian judging by the flawless accent, and it does matter a lot if Anglo American Mercs are participating in the attacks on Mariupol, to say the least...
 Quoting: OTTO VON BISMARCK


I said Ukrainian citizen, not Ukrainian...Maybe he married a Ukrainian and got citizenship, that would mean he has a obligation to the Ukrainian military.
 Quoting: Blueyez:


I'm married to a Ukrainian citizen. There are no such obligations. lol... I've lived in Ukraine for years and learned Russian/Ukrainian. I wouldn't bark anything in English like that to Ukrainians if I knew the language.

The guy is obviously an American mercenary with no clue on how to talk to the locals.
 Quoting: Kanadski


If he is an Ukrainian citizen he can join the military anyway, obligation not required. And just because someone lives in a country doesn't necessarily mean they can speak the local language - For example most Russians in Estonia are unable to speak Estonian.
 Quoting: Blueyez:


You won't get very far in Ukraine outside of the expat ghetto in Kiev without some language skills. There simply isn't a very big English community in Ukraine to fall back on.

Your theory is extremely unlikely. Dude is a merc and a tourist.

Last Edited by Kanadski on 01/24/2015 03:25 PM
Lucidity
Blueyez:

User ID: 62917470
Estonia
01/24/2015 03:25 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Dashcam footage of the Mariupol shelling


 Quoting: hIndsIght2020



Look on these buildings and then look where on map this is

NOW YOU SEE THAT ROCKETS FLEW FROM RIGHT SIDE OF MAP

FROM UKIE HELD TERRITORY MORAN


YOU FAIL
tool
propoganda
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67325065


Might I trouble you for some links?
 Quoting: hIndsIght2020


The only fact regarding this video is that it is stamped with the date January 1.st 2011. If it really is more recent because the camera was not adjusted to the present time, that has to be factually proved.

Until then, it is worthless as evidence in the present situation in Mariupol.

Take care
Kent
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67322328


Obviously it is not from 2011........
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 66510556
United States
01/24/2015 03:26 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
THIS should settle the troll war:
They WERE firing at a military target, Checkpoint 14, and the wind caught the rockets.



Spot report by the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine (SMM), 24 January 2015: Shelling Incident on Olimpiiska Street in Mariupol MARIUPOL 24 January 2015

Where We Are: OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine What We Do: Conflict prevention and resolution

This report is provided for the media and general public.

At approximately 09:15hrs on 24 January, the SMM in government-controlled Mariupol heard at its location incoming massed Multi-Launch Rocket System (MLRS) attacks from a north-east direction, consisting of an extremely heavy barrage lasting 35 seconds. Twenty minutes later the SMM received information from the Joint Centre for Control and Co-ordination (JCCC) in Mariupol and other sources, that shelling had occurred in the area of Olimpiiska Street, in Ordzhonikidzevskyi district, 8.5 km north-east of Mariupol city centre, approximately 400 metres from a Ukrainian Armed Forces checkpoint.

At 10:20hrs the SMM went to Olimpiiska Street and saw seven adult civilians dead. The SMM observed in an area of 1.6 km by 1.1 km, including an open market, multiple impacts on buildings, retail shops, homes and a school. The SMM observed cars on fire and windows facing the north-eastern side of a nine-storey building shattered. The SMM was able to count 19 rocket strikes and is certain there are more. Four hospitals and the emergency service in the city informed the SMM that at least 20 people died and 75 people were injured and hospitalized. Ten of the wounded were in a critical condition, according to a hospital representative.

The SMM conducted a crater analysis and its initial assessment showed that the impacts were caused by Grad and Uragan rockets. According to the impact analysis, the Grad rockets originated from a north-easterly direction, in the area of Oktyabr (19 km north-east of Olimpiiska Street), and the Uragan rockets from an easterly direction, in the area of Zaichenko (15 km east of Olimpiiska Street), both controlled by the “Donetsk People’s Republic” (“DPR”).

At 13:02hrs and 13:21hrs the SMM heard again incoming MLRS salvos lasting for eight seconds, from an easterly direction. At a distance of 300 metres the SMM saw smoke above the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ checkpoint number 14 (8.9 km north-east of Mariupol city centre), just several hundred metres away from where the shelling had hit in Olimpiiska Street.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66510556

You are an abject embarrassment to the RussoShill community. This is the dumbest , poorest attempt at a propaganda post I've ever seen on this thread.

The 2 zods: you need to get control of your intern shills, they are making you look more inept than you already are.
chucklechucklechucklechucklechucklechucklechucklechuckle
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67210201


And you wonder why people laugh at the Ukie trolls???
So, the OSCE is a bunch of "Putinbots", right??

They note that a MILITARY TARTGET is close by.
It was noted earlier that winds were hign at the time of the incident.

Now, shill away, shill.
KneelB4Zod!

User ID: 11473197
Czechia
01/24/2015 03:26 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Live firing mechanized battalion "August":


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
________________________________________________________​__________________
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
____________________________________________________________​______________

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 66510556
United States
01/24/2015 03:28 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
@zod

You almost did it, but you're still hiding behind 'IF the report yada yada...'!
I clearly left it up to you to pick any case you actually condemned, not an if/but/maybe case!

Try again!

(Hint:Maybe condemn Strelkov for his illegal execution orders? Just a hint, there are more things but I leave it up to you to choose from)
 Quoting: KipKat


Define "illegal", in a country run by a Nazi-backed Coup Government??
(This oughta be fun)
Blueyez:

User ID: 62917470
Estonia
01/24/2015 03:28 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
...


I said Ukrainian citizen, not Ukrainian...Maybe he married a Ukrainian and got citizenship, that would mean he has a obligation to the Ukrainian military.
 Quoting: Blueyez:


I'm married to a Ukrainian citizen. There are no such obligations. lol... I've lived in Ukraine for years and learned Russian/Ukrainian. I wouldn't bark anything in English like that to Ukrainians if I knew the language.

The guy is obviously an American mercenary with no clue on how to talk to the locals.
 Quoting: Kanadski


If he is an Ukrainian citizen he can join the military anyway, obligation not required. And just because someone lives in a country doesn't necessarily mean they can speak the local language - For example most Russians in Estonia are unable to speak Estonian.
 Quoting: Blueyez:


You won't get very far in Ukraine outside of the expat ghetto in Kiev without some language skills. There simply isn't a very big English community in Ukraine to fall back on.

Your theory is extremely unlikely. Dude is a merc and a tourist.
 Quoting: Kanadski


It is not "my theory", it is just a theory, anyway that guy seems to be very lightly armed, if he is indeed a western merc, shouldn't he have better weapons and why is he in ground zero, alone, like a sitting duck...? That just doesn't seem very professional.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 67325314
Sweden
01/24/2015 03:30 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
NATO Secretary General [empty] statement on the situation in Ukraine -
[link to www.nato.int]
 Quoting: hIndsIght2020


The empty says it all, really. I know this very weak character quite well.

Here: [link to telemarksporten.no]

Take Care
Kent
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67322328




Why does he Always look so scared?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 54164946
Luxembourg
01/24/2015 03:32 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
THIS should settle the troll war:
They WERE firing at a military target, Checkpoint 14, and the wind caught the rockets.



Spot report by the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine (SMM), 24 January 2015: Shelling Incident on Olimpiiska Street in Mariupol MARIUPOL 24 January 2015

Where We Are: OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine What We Do: Conflict prevention and resolution

This report is provided for the media and general public.

At approximately 09:15hrs on 24 January, the SMM in government-controlled Mariupol heard at its location incoming massed Multi-Launch Rocket System (MLRS) attacks from a north-east direction, consisting of an extremely heavy barrage lasting 35 seconds. Twenty minutes later the SMM received information from the Joint Centre for Control and Co-ordination (JCCC) in Mariupol and other sources, that shelling had occurred in the area of Olimpiiska Street, in Ordzhonikidzevskyi district, 8.5 km north-east of Mariupol city centre, approximately 400 metres from a Ukrainian Armed Forces checkpoint.

At 10:20hrs the SMM went to Olimpiiska Street and saw seven adult civilians dead. The SMM observed in an area of 1.6 km by 1.1 km, including an open market, multiple impacts on buildings, retail shops, homes and a school. The SMM observed cars on fire and windows facing the north-eastern side of a nine-storey building shattered. The SMM was able to count 19 rocket strikes and is certain there are more. Four hospitals and the emergency service in the city informed the SMM that at least 20 people died and 75 people were injured and hospitalized. Ten of the wounded were in a critical condition, according to a hospital representative.

The SMM conducted a crater analysis and its initial assessment showed that the impacts were caused by Grad and Uragan rockets. According to the impact analysis, the Grad rockets originated from a north-easterly direction, in the area of Oktyabr (19 km north-east of Olimpiiska Street), and the Uragan rockets from an easterly direction, in the area of Zaichenko (15 km east of Olimpiiska Street), both controlled by the “Donetsk People’s Republic” (“DPR”).

At 13:02hrs and 13:21hrs the SMM heard again incoming MLRS salvos lasting for eight seconds, from an easterly direction. At a distance of 300 metres the SMM saw smoke above the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ checkpoint number 14 (8.9 km north-east of Mariupol city centre), just several hundred metres away from where the shelling had hit in Olimpiiska Street.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66510556


strange how they don't observe anything in Donetsk or Gorlovka, Stakhanov...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 42518348
Bulgaria
01/24/2015 03:33 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
...


If I was a bot or a shill I would have been incapable of logic and rational thought just like you ukro shilling idiots. A volley from a single BM-21 system consists of 40 rockets with the same trajectory and as I say they are never used in single platform launch( typical volley at least 120 rocket). Now we can clearly see from the videos and photos this was absolutely senseless fire in single or double mode from multiple platforms.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42518348

Not all the tubes need be loaded to launch you 'Call of Duty military academy graduate. Once again, leave the leave the expert shilling to zod.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67210201


Idiot, Mariupol is crucial strategic position if it falls the economy and the whole country will collapse. The Ukrainian army has multiple fortified positions and artillery in a perimeter around it including counter-battery radars. So according to you and several other expert dump shills here a single BM-21 with a couple of tubes loaded suddenly approached from the Russian position and started to shoot randomly towards the Russian neighborhood and then they even announced it on a gsm phone call.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42518348

You continue to FAIL in trying to change the truth by inserting bullshit, irrelevant facts and variables. Rockets trajectory came from RussoProxy direction, fired by RussoProxy positions and GRADS. Truth hurts Bulgarian. Report to the Kremlin for more Cyber Propaganda training, you are lacking Bulagarian.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67210201


There is no truth in this fucked up world Swiss shill and soon we will all fail. Please don't embarrass yourself with the primitive narrative where the Russians are responsible for everything.
M1.618

User ID: 61275893
Canada
01/24/2015 03:34 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
...


I certainly disagree, it surely isn't a Ukrainian judging by the flawless accent, and it does matter a lot if Anglo American Mercs are participating in the attacks on Mariupol, to say the least...
 Quoting: OTTO VON BISMARCK


I said Ukrainian citizen, not Ukrainian...Maybe he married a Ukrainian and got citizenship, that would mean he has a obligation to the Ukrainian military.
 Quoting: Blueyez:


I'm married to a Ukrainian citizen. There are no such obligations. lol... I've lived in Ukraine for years and learned Russian/Ukrainian. I wouldn't bark anything in English like that to Ukrainians if I knew the language.

The guy is obviously an American mercenary with no clue on how to talk to the locals.
 Quoting: Kanadski


If he is an Ukrainian citizen he can join the military anyway, obligation not required. And just because someone lives in a country doesn't necessarily mean they can speak the local language - For example most Russians in Estonia are unable to speak Estonian.
 Quoting: Blueyez:


There are all kinds of mercs fighting for Ukr. That are not citizens.
And his accent and actions were not even "Eastern European"
wmMmw
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 67331581
United Kingdom
01/24/2015 03:34 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
THis must be the most boring war in history.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67330018


Well maybe you should get a first hand experience to make things more vivid.
 Quoting: Blueyez:


Very true war isn't CoD or hollywood its differnt when you scoop you buddy up and carry him home in a sandwich bag, go and think some more before you post shit like that...
 Quoting: Anderson_G


careful what you wish for...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63001895


Wise words
KipKat

User ID: 25952351
Netherlands
01/24/2015 03:35 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Hinden owned
damn it is so nice

fuckyeah5
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67325065


It happens all the time. He's like a punching bag or something.
 Quoting: ButlerianJihadist


Clearly you both been owned by the osce report, fools!

[link to www.osce.org]
:kkwapper:
OTTO VON BISMARCK

User ID: 67321768
Germany
01/24/2015 03:35 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
...


I certainly disagree, it surely isn't a Ukrainian judging by the flawless accent, and it does matter a lot if Anglo American Mercs are participating in the attacks on Mariupol, to say the least...
 Quoting: OTTO VON BISMARCK


I said Ukrainian citizen, not Ukrainian...Maybe he married a Ukrainian and got citizenship, that would mean he has a obligation to the Ukrainian military.
 Quoting: Blueyez:


I'm married to a Ukrainian citizen. There are no such obligations. lol... I've lived in Ukraine for years and learned Russian/Ukrainian. I wouldn't bark anything in English like that to Ukrainians if I knew the language.

The guy is obviously an American mercenary with no clue on how to talk to the locals.
 Quoting: Kanadski


If he is an Ukrainian citizen he can join the military anyway, obligation not required. And just because someone lives in a country doesn't necessarily mean they can speak the local language - For example most Russians in Estonia are unable to speak Estonian.
 Quoting: Blueyez:



There is one faux pas you seem to make, dear Estonian BlueEyes, and it goes as follows, and I am absolutely certain you cannot avoid agreeing with me unless you are claiming "racial superiority" over other ethnicities.

Donbass regions should approach the UN just like the Palestinians have done. They have every right to as there is no real government in Ukraine. The US backed coup allowed an unconstitutional take over. The constitution of Ukraine no longer exists and the Donbas regions are not represented in the Rada.

So with these genocidal attacks and the ethnic cleansing by Kiev of the east they have every right to seperate from Ukraine.

Just as you had the right to seperate from USSR ... you can't claim one set of rules for yourselves and use another set of rules for Russians. You can try but only fool yourself in the long run with all the consequences attached to such an aproach.
The secret of politics? Make a good treaty with Russia. -Otto von Bismarck
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 66510556
United States
01/24/2015 03:37 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
THIS should settle the troll war:
They WERE firing at a military target, Checkpoint 14, and the wind caught the rockets.



Spot report by the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine (SMM), 24 January 2015: Shelling Incident on Olimpiiska Street in Mariupol MARIUPOL 24 January 2015

Where We Are: OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine What We Do: Conflict prevention and resolution

This report is provided for the media and general public.

At approximately 09:15hrs on 24 January, the SMM in government-controlled Mariupol heard at its location incoming massed Multi-Launch Rocket System (MLRS) attacks from a north-east direction, consisting of an extremely heavy barrage lasting 35 seconds. Twenty minutes later the SMM received information from the Joint Centre for Control and Co-ordination (JCCC) in Mariupol and other sources, that shelling had occurred in the area of Olimpiiska Street, in Ordzhonikidzevskyi district, 8.5 km north-east of Mariupol city centre, approximately 400 metres from a Ukrainian Armed Forces checkpoint.

At 10:20hrs the SMM went to Olimpiiska Street and saw seven adult civilians dead. The SMM observed in an area of 1.6 km by 1.1 km, including an open market, multiple impacts on buildings, retail shops, homes and a school. The SMM observed cars on fire and windows facing the north-eastern side of a nine-storey building shattered. The SMM was able to count 19 rocket strikes and is certain there are more. Four hospitals and the emergency service in the city informed the SMM that at least 20 people died and 75 people were injured and hospitalized. Ten of the wounded were in a critical condition, according to a hospital representative.

The SMM conducted a crater analysis and its initial assessment showed that the impacts were caused by Grad and Uragan rockets. According to the impact analysis, the Grad rockets originated from a north-easterly direction, in the area of Oktyabr (19 km north-east of Olimpiiska Street), and the Uragan rockets from an easterly direction, in the area of Zaichenko (15 km east of Olimpiiska Street), both controlled by the “Donetsk People’s Republic” (“DPR”).

At 13:02hrs and 13:21hrs the SMM heard again incoming MLRS salvos lasting for eight seconds, from an easterly direction. At a distance of 300 metres the SMM saw smoke above the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ checkpoint number 14 (8.9 km north-east of Mariupol city centre), just several hundred metres away from where the shelling had hit in Olimpiiska Street.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66510556


strange how they don't observe anything in Donetsk or Gorlovka, Stakhanov...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54164946


Oh, they did report, especially in Donetsk and Lugansk, several times. It just didn't get any western press because it didn't fit the pre-approved narratives.

Bad things happen in War. This is one of them.

BOTTOM LINE:
If the Ukrainian Government hadn't been overthrown in a Nazi-backed coup, we wouldn't even having this conversation. EVERYTHING that has happened since is a result of that. EVERYTHING...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 65828722
Slovakia
01/24/2015 03:39 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Zakharchenko denies plans to storm Mariupol

Donetsk People's Republic official confirms militia trying to take Mariupol

[link to www.interfax.com]
Blueyez:

User ID: 62917470
Estonia
01/24/2015 03:40 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
...


I said Ukrainian citizen, not Ukrainian...Maybe he married a Ukrainian and got citizenship, that would mean he has a obligation to the Ukrainian military.
 Quoting: Blueyez:


I'm married to a Ukrainian citizen. There are no such obligations. lol... I've lived in Ukraine for years and learned Russian/Ukrainian. I wouldn't bark anything in English like that to Ukrainians if I knew the language.

The guy is obviously an American mercenary with no clue on how to talk to the locals.
 Quoting: Kanadski


If he is an Ukrainian citizen he can join the military anyway, obligation not required. And just because someone lives in a country doesn't necessarily mean they can speak the local language - For example most Russians in Estonia are unable to speak Estonian.
 Quoting: Blueyez:



There is one faux pas you seem to make, dear Estonian BlueEyes, and it goes as follows, and I am absolutely certain you cannot avoid agreeing with me unless you are claiming "racial superiority" over other ethnicities.

Donbass regions should approach the UN just like the Palestinians have done. They have every right to as there is no real government in Ukraine. The US backed coup allowed an unconstitutional take over. The constitution of Ukraine no longer exists and the Donbas regions are not represented in the Rada.

So with these genocidal attacks and the ethnic cleansing by Kiev of the east they have every right to seperate from Ukraine.

Just as you had the right to seperate from USSR ... you can't claim one set of rules for yourselves and use another set of rules for Russians. You can try but only fool yourself in the long run with all the consequences attached to such an aproach.
 Quoting: OTTO VON BISMARCK


Wth does this have to do with Palestine?

And Eastern Ukraine is not some kind of a unified Russian community, Ukrainians live there too, who do not want to separate from the Ukraine...
And after all these Russians can go back to mother Russia, nobody is stopping them.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 54164946
Luxembourg
01/24/2015 03:40 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
THIS should settle the troll war:
They WERE firing at a military target, Checkpoint 14, and the wind caught the rockets.



Spot report by the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine (SMM), 24 January 2015: Shelling Incident on Olimpiiska Street in Mariupol MARIUPOL 24 January 2015

Where We Are: OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine What We Do: Conflict prevention and resolution

This report is provided for the media and general public.

At approximately 09:15hrs on 24 January, the SMM in government-controlled Mariupol heard at its location incoming massed Multi-Launch Rocket System (MLRS) attacks from a north-east direction, consisting of an extremely heavy barrage lasting 35 seconds. Twenty minutes later the SMM received information from the Joint Centre for Control and Co-ordination (JCCC) in Mariupol and other sources, that shelling had occurred in the area of Olimpiiska Street, in Ordzhonikidzevskyi district, 8.5 km north-east of Mariupol city centre, approximately 400 metres from a Ukrainian Armed Forces checkpoint.

At 10:20hrs the SMM went to Olimpiiska Street and saw seven adult civilians dead. The SMM observed in an area of 1.6 km by 1.1 km, including an open market, multiple impacts on buildings, retail shops, homes and a school. The SMM observed cars on fire and windows facing the north-eastern side of a nine-storey building shattered. The SMM was able to count 19 rocket strikes and is certain there are more. Four hospitals and the emergency service in the city informed the SMM that at least 20 people died and 75 people were injured and hospitalized. Ten of the wounded were in a critical condition, according to a hospital representative.

The SMM conducted a crater analysis and its initial assessment showed that the impacts were caused by Grad and Uragan rockets. According to the impact analysis, the Grad rockets originated from a north-easterly direction, in the area of Oktyabr (19 km north-east of Olimpiiska Street), and the Uragan rockets from an easterly direction, in the area of Zaichenko (15 km east of Olimpiiska Street), both controlled by the “Donetsk People’s Republic” (“DPR”).

At 13:02hrs and 13:21hrs the SMM heard again incoming MLRS salvos lasting for eight seconds, from an easterly direction. At a distance of 300 metres the SMM saw smoke above the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ checkpoint number 14 (8.9 km north-east of Mariupol city centre), just several hundred metres away from where the shelling had hit in Olimpiiska Street.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66510556


strange how they don't observe anything in Donetsk or Gorlovka, Stakhanov...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54164946


Oh, they did report, especially in Donetsk and Lugansk, several times. It just didn't get any western press because it didn't fit the pre-approved narratives.

Bad things happen in War. This is one of them.

BOTTOM LINE:
If the Ukrainian Government hadn't been overthrown in a Nazi-backed coup, we wouldn't even having this conversation. EVERYTHING that has happened since is a result of that. EVERYTHING...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66510556


If the russians pushed even Hitler to suicide guess what's gonna happen to Porky cruise
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 67332237
Netherlands
01/24/2015 03:41 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Zakharchenko denies plans to storm Mariupol

Donetsk People's Republic official confirms militia trying to take Mariupol

[link to www.interfax.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65828722


Sooo, which one is it?
KneelB4Zod!

User ID: 11473197
Czechia
01/24/2015 03:41 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
@zod

You almost did it, but you're still hiding behind 'IF the report yada yada...'!
I clearly left it up to you to pick any case you actually condemned, not an if/but/maybe case!

Try again!

(Hint:Maybe condemn Strelkov for his illegal execution orders? Just a hint, there are more things but I leave it up to you to choose from)
 Quoting: KipKat



I can't offer nothing better to you so you should be glad for that what you have. There is nothing what is clearly proved to the point, where I can condemn it without "if". Unlikely clearly proved actions of Kiev armed forces. But when you have some case, what was clearly proved don't be ashamed and put it on the table. I will take a look.
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
________________________________________________________​__________________
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
____________________________________________________________​______________

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 54164946
Luxembourg
01/24/2015 03:42 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
luci Frank ‏@falluja05 6m6 minutes ago
[eng subs] Mariupol resident appeals to Poroshenko 24/01/15 Asks to take...:

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 67322328
Norway
01/24/2015 03:44 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
NATO Secretary General [empty] statement on the situation in Ukraine -
[link to www.nato.int]
 Quoting: hIndsIght2020


The empty says it all, really. I know this very weak character quite well.

Here: [link to telemarksporten.no]

Take Care
Kent
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67322328




Why does he Always look so scared?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67325314


He has been scared all his life, born and raised in a powerful political environment with high expectations and demands for a brilliant political career. His father is Thorvald Stoltenberg (google him).

He was groomed for his present position (or similar).

Through his fathers influence he was invited and introduced into one of the outer circles of power (Bilderberger) at a very young age.

Take care
Kent
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 66510556
United States
01/24/2015 03:44 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
THIS should settle the troll war:
They WERE firing at a military target, Checkpoint 14, and the wind caught the rockets.



Spot report by the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine (SMM), 24 January 2015: Shelling Incident on Olimpiiska Street in Mariupol MARIUPOL 24 January 2015

Where We Are: OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine What We Do: Conflict prevention and resolution

This report is provided for the media and general public.

At approximately 09:15hrs on 24 January, the SMM in government-controlled Mariupol heard at its location incoming massed Multi-Launch Rocket System (MLRS) attacks from a north-east direction, consisting of an extremely heavy barrage lasting 35 seconds. Twenty minutes later the SMM received information from the Joint Centre for Control and Co-ordination (JCCC) in Mariupol and other sources, that shelling had occurred in the area of Olimpiiska Street, in Ordzhonikidzevskyi district, 8.5 km north-east of Mariupol city centre, approximately 400 metres from a Ukrainian Armed Forces checkpoint.

At 10:20hrs the SMM went to Olimpiiska Street and saw seven adult civilians dead. The SMM observed in an area of 1.6 km by 1.1 km, including an open market, multiple impacts on buildings, retail shops, homes and a school. The SMM observed cars on fire and windows facing the north-eastern side of a nine-storey building shattered. The SMM was able to count 19 rocket strikes and is certain there are more. Four hospitals and the emergency service in the city informed the SMM that at least 20 people died and 75 people were injured and hospitalized. Ten of the wounded were in a critical condition, according to a hospital representative.

The SMM conducted a crater analysis and its initial assessment showed that the impacts were caused by Grad and Uragan rockets. According to the impact analysis, the Grad rockets originated from a north-easterly direction, in the area of Oktyabr (19 km north-east of Olimpiiska Street), and the Uragan rockets from an easterly direction, in the area of Zaichenko (15 km east of Olimpiiska Street), both controlled by the “Donetsk People’s Republic” (“DPR”).

At 13:02hrs and 13:21hrs the SMM heard again incoming MLRS salvos lasting for eight seconds, from an easterly direction. At a distance of 300 metres the SMM saw smoke above the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ checkpoint number 14 (8.9 km north-east of Mariupol city centre), just several hundred metres away from where the shelling had hit in Olimpiiska Street.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66510556


strange how they don't observe anything in Donetsk or Gorlovka, Stakhanov...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54164946


Oh, they did report, especially in Donetsk and Lugansk, several times. It just didn't get any western press because it didn't fit the pre-approved narratives.

Bad things happen in War. This is one of them.

BOTTOM LINE:
If the Ukrainian Government hadn't been overthrown in a Nazi-backed coup, we wouldn't even having this conversation. EVERYTHING that has happened since is a result of that. EVERYTHING...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66510556


If the russians pushed even Hitler to suicide guess what's gonna happen to Porky cruise
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54164946


Except it's not "PorkY" that is driving events.
It is the ACTUAL NAZI'S pressuring and threatening from behind, supported by some nutjobs in the White Hut.
KneelB4Zod!

User ID: 11473197
Czechia
01/24/2015 03:44 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Destroyed KrAZ Spartan of Kiev forces:

[link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)]
[link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)]
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
________________________________________________________​__________________
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
____________________________________________________________​______________

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]





GLP