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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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U.S. Senator McCain promises Ukraine military aid by $ 100 million

[link to russian.rt.com]

:mccain3:
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They can't buy even an F-16 with that money!
But they need the money to buy food and gasoline for their military...
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Another disgusting video... Pro-Maidan thugs kill people after they jumped / fell from #Trade_Union building in #Odessa.

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U.S. Senator McCain promises Ukraine military aid by $ 100 million

[link to russian.rt.com]

:mccain3:
 Quoting: tmorais


McCain with this money is only buying mercenaries to fight Putin.
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No. Get your record straight. He is fighting for democracy and freedom.
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yeah, the Moderates....that only just cut out your heart and eat while still beating, not burn you alive....moderates, something we all look to invite to thanksgiving for turkey
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Turchinov acknowledged that many residents of the East of Ukraine support militias

Appointed by the Verkhovna Rada acting president Oleksandr Turchynov acknowledged that many people in the east of Ukraine support federalization of supporters that, in his words "significantly complicates the military operation."

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@GogiGogi12 @NewsBalkan @rogerablackwell we getting reports of 116 - mostly SHOT - then fuel pour on and lit, and baseball batted to death

More and more of this coming out from different sources. Don't know if true or not but something's up.
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For the time de Gaulle of France was self excluded from military NATO, while remaining within the NATO politically. Now France is back in the NATO military.
Just go to the NATO website and look. It's not hard.
They leave and join all the time. (Ironic)
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Yes, France was a founding member of NATO in 1949, left NATO in 1966 and rejoined NATO in 2009.

And, yes, it very well may be leaving NATO in 2014 along with Germany.

Germany, France and Russia can have a cordial and economically beneficial relationship, just as long as the English speaking nations stay out of the picture.

In particular the NordStream gas pipe s presently limited by EU legal rules. It could be used send a lot more gas to Germany is EU rules on gas pipelines were dumped.
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coming for the right sector soon


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Should clean up blackwater (or whatever they`re called now) too.

applause
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U.S. Senator McCain promises Ukraine military aid by $ 100 million

[link to russian.rt.com]

:mccain3:
 Quoting: tmorais


McCain with this money is only buying mercenaries to fight Putin.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57705977


No. Get your record straight. He is fighting for democracy and freedom.
 Quoting: tmorais


You are wrong!

US fights for democracy.

Russia fights for freedom.

Both use bombs, bullets, mercenaries and death.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57700911




ALL indices of freedom are much higher in USA - speech, press, assembly, firearm, business, political, religious, sexual, social, internet

every single one of those is significantly more free in the US than Russia, and Russia's freedom's are deteriorating rapidly by the hour right now.

I am Ukrainian and I know Russia well and I know the west well also. No way in hell Russia fights for freedom. They chastize, beat up, arrest, condemn, kill, and oppress freedom now and are fighting AGAINST IT!
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first they were killed...then gasolined & lit...
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I try to post only to update here on donetsk but very hard read deny there nationalist operating in Ukraine. I stay home all day and family but there lots of talk about that, and people see them and are threatend by them.
I am Ukrainian but we have this problem in Ukraine, there many people who wish to be heard with federalization but Kyiv doesn't want to heard from us as we know Kyiv is been helped by others a lot. How can we trust the people now in Kyiv if not heard us and send here people who hate us to threaten? I fear for my family because wife Russian, but more by the Donetsk region. We don't know what they do when get permanent power.
The other thing Putin won't come he must be afraid because the other side, and is mostly through Rossians from near border with us and Crimea who might be helping us and there lots of people in Donetsk who support federalization, but what they say Ukrainian military too many people and good equipped, referendum very difficult.
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I don't know what to say, except I hope you and your wife will be safe and well, and if you don't go out taking part in either side, you should be. Stock up on drinking water, food, cans etc. and have batteries and candles and torches. Protect your wife and family, unfortunately people are being used so better to stay out of it and let them battle it out.

I'm sorry you guys go through this hf
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Second that

Take care
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first they were killed...then gasolined & lit...
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Oh WOW NO
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U.S. Senator McCain promises Ukraine military aid by $ 100 million

[link to russian.rt.com]

:mccain3:
 Quoting: tmorais


McCain with this money is only buying mercenaries to fight Putin.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57705977


No. Get your record straight. He is fighting for democracy and freedom.
 Quoting: tmorais


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Another disgusting video... Pro-Maidan thugs kill people after they jumped / fell from #Trade_Union building in #Odessa.


 Quoting: tmorais


So it is true that the victims are exceeding ~40 and well about ~120.

The official story is about the dead in the building, but in that vid alone i saw at least 4-5 deaths outside - falling from 15-20 meters which is unsurvivable on concrete if you are intxicated and dizzy from the smoke, plus those that survived the fall from shorter height were being finished with bats. Which coincides with the story of the truth man in a previous vid (some posts ago) that told about more than 116 bodies, some hidden in the basement of the building and then driven away and disposed of.

I guess no one could let such murderous scum coexist in any vicinity so the "patriots" from "right sector" would soon diminish and finally be a movement only in history textbooks and psychiatric study-cases.
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Kill Vehicles are first line of defense against ballistic missile threats:

[link to www.raytheon.com]

[link to pic.twitter.com]


so far in tests, 34 kills out of 34 attempts
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57417454


yea putting weapons in space will be a very good idea.

blink
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57700792


They are not weapons in space. They are ballistic missile interceptors fired from ballistic missile Navy ships and land-based systems.

and there is no 'will'

This system has already been functional for a long while now and ready for WWIII should the Russian fascists initiate it. It is being constantly improved, but is in place all over the globe.
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I wouldn't rely on those toys to intercept russian 200t rockets going 5 miles per second
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Kill Vehicles are first line of defense against ballistic missile threats:

[link to www.raytheon.com]

[link to pic.twitter.com]


so far in tests, 34 kills out of 34 attempts
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57417454


yea putting weapons in space will be a very good idea.

blink
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57700792


They are not weapons in space. They are ballistic missile interceptors fired from ballistic missile Navy ships and land-based systems.

and there is no 'will'

This system has already been functional for a long while now and ready for WWIII should the Russian fascists initiate it. It is being constantly improved, but is in place all over the globe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57417454


I wouldn't rely on those toys to intercept russian 200t rockets going 5 miles per second
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9827179


US hypersonic interceptor can easily do so.
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first they were killed...then gasolined & lit...
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What do the shills have to say about this then?

This reinforces my belief in what I saw live and from other recorded sources thereafter. They were shot at from inside and out, there was no molotovs thrown from the roof by anti Kiev group, and the building was already under siege before the main crown arrived on the scene
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On Sunday, Crimea's sexy little slut whore prosecutor Ponklonskaya told (recorded on video) the Crimean tater head that their mejlis, or council, would be officially "liquidated."

This is Russia's continued xenophobic genocide which it has lived by for ages against all non-Russian peoples.

There is more of Russia's goddamned 'freedoms' that the Russian shills here lie about. Russia is the new den of the devil that was last here as Hitler, and presently here as Putin.
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first they were killed...then gasolined & lit...
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What do the shills have to say about this then?

This reinforces my belief in what I saw live and from other recorded sources thereafter. They were shot at from inside and out, there was no molotovs thrown from the roof by anti Kiev group, and the building was already under siege before the main crown arrived on the scene
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45059091


I saw the exact same thing as you, and i remember very clearly that the building was already under HEAVY attack before the main group arrived. it was on live fucking video
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Response will come soon...

Look out nazi scum...they are coming!

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yea putting weapons in space will be a very good idea.

blink
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57700792


They are not weapons in space. They are ballistic missile interceptors fired from ballistic missile Navy ships and land-based systems.

and there is no 'will'

This system has already been functional for a long while now and ready for WWIII should the Russian fascists initiate it. It is being constantly improved, but is in place all over the globe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57417454


I wouldn't rely on those toys to intercept russian 200t rockets going 5 miles per second
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9827179


US hypersonic interceptor can easily do so.
 Quoting: SenterSun


erm, what?
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Two or three days ago, Russians claimed that Kiev and/or Right Sector had poisoned their water in Sloviansk which was completely false.

However, Ukrainian soldiers near Sloviansk on Sunday really were given poisoned food by those terrorists.




The Russians are liars, hypocrites, terrorists, and xenophobic genocidal maniacs as to how they live as a normal.

Their modus operandi is to do the bad thing, and then to accuse their victim(as they constantly have a victim of one form or another of their predation) of being the one to do the bad thing.
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Ultras responsible for the tragedy in Odessa receive cash rewards for "heroism"

Main Department of Civil Service of Ukraine of Emergencies in the Odessa region in the face of the head of department Bodelan Vladimir Ruslanovich on behalf of the Chairman of the Odessa Regional State Administration Vladimir Leonidovich Nemirovsky awarded some of the security personnel, as well as five representatives of FC "Chernomorets" and FC "Metallurg" Diplomas and a cash prize of U.S. $ 10,000 each with the wording "for courage and heroism in saving the lives of citizens of Odessa during a fire in the House of Trade Unions May 2, 2014."
[link to infoborona.org]


Slava Nulandistan crazy
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There you go.. kill and get money.. medieval times..
"So you mean to say they've taken what we thought we think and make us think we thought our thoughts we've been thinking our thoughts we think we thought?"
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Kill Vehicles are first line of defense against ballistic missile threats:

[link to www.raytheon.com]

[link to pic.twitter.com]


so far in tests, 34 kills out of 34 attempts
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57417454


yea putting weapons in space will be a very good idea.

blink
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57700792


They are not weapons in space. They are ballistic missile interceptors fired from ballistic missile Navy ships and land-based systems.

and there is no 'will'

This system has already been functional for a long while now and ready for WWIII should the Russian fascists initiate it. It is being constantly improved, but is in place all over the globe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57417454


I wouldn't rely on those toys to intercept russian 200t rockets going 5 miles per second
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9827179


I think you have missed the part where exact replicas of various Russian MIRVs have been built and the ABM system has successfully intercepted all of them, including ones with decoys and evasive maneuvers, as well as satellites in space.
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first they were killed...then gasolined & lit...
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What do the shills have to say about this then?

This reinforces my belief in what I saw live and from other recorded sources thereafter. They were shot at from inside and out, there was no molotovs thrown from the roof by anti Kiev group, and the building was already under siege before the main crown arrived on the scene
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45059091


How do people in East Ukraine and more important in Russia react to this new bloody developments in Odessa? Aren't Duma members in Moscow asking questions about this massacre and putting pressure on Putin to come up with a reaction? Have the gruesome pictures of people being shot in the building already surfaced on Russian television or other media? I can imagine it has stirred up the emotions in Russia through the roof.
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first they were killed...then gasolined & lit...
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What do the shills have to say about this then?

This reinforces my belief in what I saw live and from other recorded sources thereafter. They were shot at from inside and out, there was no molotovs thrown from the roof by anti Kiev group, and the building was already under siege before the main crown arrived on the scene
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45059091


How do people in East Ukraine and more important in Russia react to this new bloody developments in Odessa? Aren't Duma members in Moscow asking questions about this massacre and putting pressure on Putin to come up with a reaction? Have the gruesome pictures of people being shot in the building already surfaced on Russian television or other media? I can imagine it has stirred up the emotions in Russia through the roof.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49039572


they are furious ofc. But this was obviously an organized massacre right, the evidence is there. Question is why does the west so badly want Russia to invade, that's what's holding Putin back. Because if they invade this war would be over in max 1 week. Is there a trap or something?
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I tried to link to the video of that and created a thread and none showed up! Censorship is in place for sure. Unseen.....
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Believe me now? They wouldn't let me post that vid last night. Now it's all over the news.....
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Its not like you have discovered some secret Hoss. They are there for a known parade.
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Yes, parades are useful ...

Russia works with illusionists in its military services.
Actual magicians and illusionists who learned how to make the public look at something while they perform a trick no-one expects.

These people put layers of information upon layers of information until your head is spinned upside down and inside out.

What you think is pro-Ukraine is actually pro-Russian and not even those executing the plans know it.

The fire is a good example of how they use Ukraine groups like Pravy Sektor (who are 100% infiltrated since the 90's) to execute their plans.

Pravy Sektor is of course unaware that they executed a Russian plan, but yet they did.
Infiltration, control, manipulation.

Winning at chess is easier when you control all the pawns.
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Ditto banksters and Al Qaeda
Eat the Reds
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They are not weapons in space. They are ballistic missile interceptors fired from ballistic missile Navy ships and land-based systems.

and there is no 'will'

This system has already been functional for a long while now and ready for WWIII should the Russian fascists initiate it. It is being constantly improved, but is in place all over the globe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57417454


I wouldn't rely on those toys to intercept russian 200t rockets going 5 miles per second
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9827179


US hypersonic interceptor can easily do so.
 Quoting: SenterSun


erm, what?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9827179


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They are not weapons in space. They are ballistic missile interceptors fired from ballistic missile Navy ships and land-based systems.

and there is no 'will'

This system has already been functional for a long while now and ready for WWIII should the Russian fascists initiate it. It is being constantly improved, but is in place all over the globe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57417454


I wouldn't rely on those toys to intercept russian 200t rockets going 5 miles per second
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9827179


US hypersonic interceptor can easily do so.
 Quoting: SenterSun


erm, what?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9827179

I'll bring you up to speed quickly,

I did a ton of research on this. ICBM's are actually mostly paperweights now because of the new weapons, hypersonic missle systems coupled with new Aegis BMD radar, land and sea, can easily shoot them down. The US is leading the pack with the most advanced tech and a kill vehicle that reaches speeds of 13,000mph or around Mach 16. 

Russia and China also have new ram-jet powered missles of serval variants that have achieved speeds of Mach 9, ground-to-air, anti-ship(carrier killer), air-to-ground. India also has a hypersonic system and are currently developing a badass version together called "Brahmos". 

The new fear, in the place of ICBM's is sub-launched hypersonic nuclear cruise missles off ones coast from undetectable subs. There would be very very little time from launch to impact, giving one almost no time to respond.

Wonder why so many US carriers aren't operating? Chinese and Russian hyper-sonic anti-ship missles, that can skim the water from 20-3 meters, would give a carrier literally under ten seconds from detection to impact at the speed the missles travel. 

These missles nullify carriers which is why they are in Norfolk and newport being refitted with a new look-over-the-horizon radar for earlier detection, upgrade to hypersonic inbound interceptor missles instead of SM-2/3 probably, as well as upgrades to the CIWS fire control radar to reduce its cycling time to adjust for the speeds. Just guessing on these refittings but its an educated guess because evidence does exist, but is scanty as one would expect.

These weapons have changed the global paradigm.

Plus we have the kinetic rod orbital bombardment system that is......well.......the most devastating weapon ever created. We may not the only ones that have it either, but because of the cost technical expertise, we probably are. For now. 

In speculation, this COULD be the reason Russia seems to really not want to roll into Ukraine, even with the horrors being committed there, despite facing very inferior OPFOR. If Putin was warned we don't need ground armies or nukes to take out his invasion force, which is LITERALLY Russia's entire military compliment, well that would give him pause, eh? 

That means, he'd have to start nuking shit, because he'd have no conventional forces left. 

The longer this Ukraine killing Russian stuff goes on with no response from Russia, the more I believe I'm right. It's simply not in Russia character as a nation or Putins to let this horrific slaughter go unanswered.
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Sorry for the double posts.....something wierd happens everytime I try to statring to think I should shut up. Last night now again today?

Ruh-roh.
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Sorry for the double posts.....something wierd happens everytime I try to statring to think I should shut up. Last night now again today?

Ruh-roh.
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It's not you were all having trouble today, here's a thread on it.

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To the protectorate of "GRE*ECE":

Stop posting terrorist anti-government lecture.
Rapid resonse team is already underway.
Please get naked and wait outside of your house, arms stretched forward.

Thank you for your cooperation.
The administrative office.





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