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Russia is going to kill 100-200 people and enter into host Ukraine - Counterintelligence

[link to hromadske.tv]

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Propaganda at full speed.
 Quoting: tmorais


Euromaidan PR @EuromaidanPR 46 seg

BREAKING! SBU: Russian spetsnaz has orders to kill at least 100 ppl so #Russian troops could enter Eastern #Ukraine

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euromadian bs
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I feel so fucking bad for the Ukrainian military. You can all say what you want but you need leadership to effectively use an armed force and right now these poor bastards have NOONE. They have no idea what to do. They all want to defend Ukraine but some of their families are in the east, Their is no leadership, no food, and definitely they do NOT want to fight with their own people not even russians because as they have all been explaining, THEY ARE ALL RUSSIAN. Either way, i hope something happens soon or some form of leadership comes out because right now these guys are lost.
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Those poor kids (Ukrainian soldiers) are being used as tools, same as the US soldiers, and effectively by the same people that control the US military. The US is hoping Russia intervenes and uses deadly force against the Ukrainian soldiers in order to paint Putin as the bad guy just as they've been trying to do for years but so far it's not working. I hope he doesn't take the bait. The US wants to destroy Russia, which it sees as the greatest threat to its empire.
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Maidan surrounds Odessa checkpoints

[link to rusvesna.su]
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Im starting to like these Maidan guys, Alot are wearing Canadian Camo
 Quoting: RedEyeJedi


wtfdid

So you support the nazis?

damn.
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EUROMAIDAN AND RIGHT SECTOR ARE TWO DIFFERENT FUCKING THINGS YOU MINDLESS MONK
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redeye, piece of advice...just let it go...no point with some.
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Half of you fucking retards actually thing that MAIDAN and RIGHT SECTOR are the same damn thing. I cannot even fathom how you can coem this far into this thread and say some of the things that you shills say. RIGHT SECTOR are the nazi fuckheads. EURO-MAIDAN is a completely seperate group, MUCH larger and much more organized. THey were the main people behind the protest, not your nazi loving RIGHT SECTOR> ...Please if you want to insult me make sure you know what the fuck you are talking about...
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right sector incl svoboda is the main driving force in euromaidan. do some googling and research before spewing such "completely separate" bs.
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Combat vehicles in east Ukraine fly Russian flag

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Russia is going to kill 100-200 people and enter into host Ukraine - Counterintelligence

[link to hromadske.tv]

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Propaganda at full speed.
 Quoting: tmorais


Euromaidan PR @EuromaidanPR 46 seg

BREAKING! SBU: Russian spetsnaz has orders to kill at least 100 ppl so #Russian troops could enter Eastern #Ukraine

popcorn
 Quoting: tmorais


Tm pls stop posting propaganda into this thread. I know you know its a propaganda then just stop it. Soon just soon in msm they will say that the 6 apc are seized by the pro russia militants but if you know vice news on youtube they'll say that the 6 apc are seized by russian special forces even though they are all given peacefully by the young newly recruited ukrainian forces.
"So you mean to say they've taken what we thought we think and make us think we thought our thoughts we've been thinking our thoughts we think we thought?"
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People think Ukraine troops are constitutional scholars? Seriously? No one has their backs. They know it. Not the people giving them orders and not the guy next to them in their unit. That is the crux of the problem. You can't fight if the guy next to you will surrender on a minutes notice. Some guys defect and some guys go back from each unit. That tells you all you need to know.
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Not only that, the stability of current GOV is very weak.
And as berkut case shows, soldiers cannot feel safe to obey orders, as they can be procesuted by new GOV.
Even if the order came from LEGIT authorities of Ukraine.

Current situation is even worse for Ukrainian army - as there is no LEGIT authority in the country.

There were no elections - so my guess is Ukrainian army will do their best not to engage. So do Pro-Russians.
We can only fear some blackwater or right sektor doing some crazy shit.
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Half of you fucking retards actually thing that MAIDAN and RIGHT SECTOR are the same damn thing. I cannot even fathom how you can coem this far into this thread and say some of the things that you shills say. RIGHT SECTOR are the nazi fuckheads. EURO-MAIDAN is a completely seperate group, MUCH larger and much more organized. THey were the main people behind the protest, not your nazi loving RIGHT SECTOR> ...Please if you want to insult me make sure you know what the fuck you are talking about...
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Dont forget about SVOBODA. They wield immense power now, and are worse than Right Sector.
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If you don't think this conflict is going to end up spreading.. just look at this thread. People half a world away are at each other's throats over this shit.
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THIS !!!!
 Quoting: karamel


but those "citizens" are waving Russian flags, so maybe they're not citizens of Ukraine. Just saying.
 Quoting: The Nihilist


Maybe they are Alaskans? Putin
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maybe, but for sure they are not Ukrainian. In time of war u wave the enemy countries flag, unreal.
 Quoting: The Nihilist


maybe they're aliens?

wow canadian dumbos are out in force today. "for sure they are not ukrainian" lol. do some research and you might find out how many ETHNIC RUSSIANS live in eastern ukraine with ukrainian passports. their enemy is not russia, their enemy is the coup government in kyiv.
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Tm pls stop posting propaganda into this thread. I know you know its a propaganda then just stop it. Soon just soon in msm they will say that the 6 apc are seized by the pro russia militants but if you know vice news on youtube they'll say that the 6 apc are seized by russian special forces even though they are all given peacefully by the young newly recruited ukrainian forces.
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It's not up to me to define what is propaganda and what isn't.

I just report what I'm seeing.

Isn't this the objective of this thread?
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Half of you fucking retards actually thing that MAIDAN and RIGHT SECTOR are the same damn thing. I cannot even fathom how you can coem this far into this thread and say some of the things that you shills say. RIGHT SECTOR are the nazi fuckheads. EURO-MAIDAN is a completely seperate group, MUCH larger and much more organized. THey were the main people behind the protest, not your nazi loving RIGHT SECTOR> ...Please if you want to insult me make sure you know what the fuck you are talking about...
 Quoting: RedEyeJedi


right sector incl svoboda is the main driving force in euromaidan. do some googling and research before spewing such "completely separate" bs.
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+1
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wow canadian dumbos are out in force today.
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Yea, what is it? Some kind of holiday in Canada or what?
Go outside ppl
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Russian commandos seized six Ukrainian armored units in Kramatorsk - MoD

@Interfax
 Quoting: tmorais


rofl

Take your lies somewhere else!

We have you-tubes posted in this very thread showing the Ukrainians peacefully handing over the armor to CIVILIAN defence forces and women giving the Ukranian defectors bread and flowers!
 Quoting: PIR


Are you actually blind or did you fail to see the masked up guys with assault rifles and rpg26's on their back, A weapon that is LITERALLY specific to russian forces.. You are fucked.
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Oh for fuck sake. Do you think people commit false flags in their own national uniforms and weapons?!?!


That is about as much proof as Obama promising he is an American citizen.
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People think Ukraine troops are constitutional scholars? Seriously? No one has their backs. They know it. Not the people giving them orders and not the guy next to them in their unit. That is the crux of the problem. You can't fight if the guy next to you will surrender on a minutes notice. Some guys defect and some guys go back from each unit. That tells you all you need to know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39365109


Not only that, the stability of current GOV is very weak.
And as berkut case shows, soldiers cannot feel safe to obey orders, as they can be procesuted by new GOV.
Even if the order came from LEGIT authorities of Ukraine.

Current situation is even worse for Ukrainian army - as there is no LEGIT authority in the country.

There were no elections - so my guess is Ukrainian army will do their best not to engage. So do Pro-Russians.
We can only fear some blackwater or right sektor doing some crazy shit.
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That is part of the ones giving orders not having their backs. Completely agree. Even if they want to they may not be there when the time comes. Others will just pretend their orders were exceeded. This wouldn't happen it the US and the constitution would not and has not stopped the US military from using lethal force against civilians.
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You would be the one fucked.

Are you so stupid to not know that the Ukrainian military is equipped with Russian weapons?

You do know those BMP's the Ukrainians were driving are made in Russia right?

specialstupid
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You are so stupid to NOT KNOW that the RPG26 is a RUSSIAN MILITARY ONLY SPECIFIC WEAPON. they have never sold it to ANYONE and mostly only their special forces carry them. So do you want to run that one past me again, i know my history and i know my weapons so pllleeeeeaaaase try this again with me.yoda PS THEIR UNIFORMS MATCH ONE OF THE NEWEST RUSSIAN UNITS CREATED SPECIFICALLY FOR MISSIONS LIKE THIS> You may look them up at any time they were created last year.
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Hey military armchair genius...it is not a RPG 26...it is a RPG-18 which was EXPORTED to Ukraine and other nations and looks the SAME as a RPG-26

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Hey internet wonder woman, That is not even remotely close to what is in the video, We can debate this all day but i know what i see with my own two eyes, The uniforms, they way they operate, FOR FUCK SAKES VICE NEWS which is a garbage news agency has video of russian troops storming the ukrainian bases. There are clearly two sides to this. people that see and believe what they see, and people who are fed shit and believe what they smell. You fall under that second catagory for me.
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He doesn't believe what that. He wants you and everybody who reads his crap to believe that. Big difference. Place is full of shills. But it's fun to watch their mental acrobatics.
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Sources: Pentagon approves 1st trans-Atlantic flights of Lockheed F-35 fighter jets to take part in UK air shows - @Reuters
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but those "citizens" are waving Russian flags, so maybe they're not citizens of Ukraine. Just saying.
 Quoting: The Nihilist


Maybe they are Alaskans? Putin
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56913131


maybe, but for sure they are not Ukrainian. In time of war u wave the enemy countries flag, unreal.
 Quoting: The Nihilist


maybe they're aliens?

wow canadian dumbos are out in force today. "for sure they are not ukrainian" lol. do some research and you might find out how many ETHNIC RUSSIANS live in eastern ukraine with ukrainian passports. their enemy is not russia, their enemy is the coup government in kyiv.
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Its the wonder per se how they'very managed to find Ukraine on the map, and now you put that challenge - to count Russians minority.
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lol dude you're delusional. keep swallowing the western propaganda. did you even watch some of the videos posted today? according to you these civilians are terrorists, not ordinary citizens of east ukraine? and what about your beloved maidan people, are they peace-loving citizens in your view?
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Swallowing? wtf are you on about, I am repeating well known information that was released by the ukrainians. I never said i believed it i am just stating HWO THE FUCK THEY ARE GETTING AROUND THEIR CONSTITUTION TO MAKE IT LEGAL> so please spare me your uneducated theatrics...
 Quoting: RedEyeJedi


it's not legal according to the ukrainian constitution, no matter how they trin to spin it.
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And that is whos opinion on it? YOURS ALONE, go ask the ukrainian government how they feel, lets see if those fucking idiots feel what they are doing is legal or illegal. Im sure they will all say legal no matter wht YOUR opinion is and remember it is noone but YOURS.
 Quoting: RedEyeJedi


There's no Ukrainian government to ask just a bunch of street thug Nazis who grabbed power in a western backed pusch a few weeks ago.
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but those "citizens" are waving Russian flags, so maybe they're not citizens of Ukraine. Just saying.
 Quoting: The Nihilist


Maybe they are Alaskans? Putin
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56913131


maybe, but for sure they are not Ukrainian. In time of war u wave the enemy countries flag, unreal.
 Quoting: The Nihilist


maybe they're aliens?

wow canadian dumbos are out in force today. "for sure they are not ukrainian" lol. do some research and you might find out how many ETHNIC RUSSIANS live in eastern ukraine with ukrainian passports. their enemy is not russia, their enemy is the coup government in kyiv.
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okay, so they are Russians, not Ukrainians. Im from that part of the world, more so then you Italy. Oh, and your country is really good at war......lol....

Who did u beat last, Ethiopia. Lol.
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this is my beef with this place, I don't have a problem with differing opinions...it when it breaks down to name calling and profanity that it is not in anyway useful. I would like to think most of the people in here are adults.
For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF

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Maybe they are Alaskans? Putin
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maybe, but for sure they are not Ukrainian. In time of war u wave the enemy countries flag, unreal.
 Quoting: The Nihilist


maybe they're aliens?

wow canadian dumbos are out in force today. "for sure they are not ukrainian" lol. do some research and you might find out how many ETHNIC RUSSIANS live in eastern ukraine with ukrainian passports. their enemy is not russia, their enemy is the coup government in kyiv.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56719297


okay, so they are Russians, not Ukrainians. Im from that part of the world, more so then you Italy. Oh, and your country is really good at war......lol....

Who did u beat last, Ethiopia. Lol.
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At least the beat Ethiopia.
Please remind me, who did Canada beat...ever?
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The constitution of Ukraine specifically states that the military can NOT used against the population and citizens of Ukraine.
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THIS !!!!
 Quoting: karamel


but those "citizens" are waving Russian flags, so maybe they're not citizens of Ukraine. Just saying.
 Quoting: The Nihilist


Maybe they are Alaskans? Putin
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Or Donjeckans? From some People's Republic or other?
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maybe, but for sure they are not Ukrainian. In time of war u wave the enemy countries flag, unreal.
 Quoting: The Nihilist


maybe they're aliens?

wow canadian dumbos are out in force today. "for sure they are not ukrainian" lol. do some research and you might find out how many ETHNIC RUSSIANS live in eastern ukraine with ukrainian passports. their enemy is not russia, their enemy is the coup government in kyiv.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56719297


okay, so they are Russians, not Ukrainians. Im from that part of the world, more so then you Italy. Oh, and your country is really good at war......lol....

Who did u beat last, Ethiopia. Lol.
 Quoting: The Nihilist


At least the beat Ethiopia.
Please remind me, who did Canada beat...ever?
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America? We tried to Invade, during the War of 1812, while the Canadians were still English territory
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maybe, but for sure they are not Ukrainian. In time of war u wave the enemy countries flag, unreal.
 Quoting: The Nihilist


maybe they're aliens?

wow canadian dumbos are out in force today. "for sure they are not ukrainian" lol. do some research and you might find out how many ETHNIC RUSSIANS live in eastern ukraine with ukrainian passports. their enemy is not russia, their enemy is the coup government in kyiv.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56719297


okay, so they are Russians, not Ukrainians. Im from that part of the world, more so then you Italy. Oh, and your country is really good at war......lol....

Who did u beat last, Ethiopia. Lol.
 Quoting: The Nihilist


At least the beat Ethiopia.
Please remind me, who did Canada beat...ever?
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lolz. i give up. u win.
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Russian commandos seized six Ukrainian armored units in Kramatorsk - MoD

@Interfax
 Quoting: tmorais


rofl

Take your lies somewhere else!

We have you-tubes posted in this very thread showing the Ukrainians peacefully handing over the armor to CIVILIAN defence forces and women giving the Ukranian defectors bread and flowers!
 Quoting: PIR


Are you actually blind or did you fail to see the masked up guys with assault rifles and rpg26's on their back, A weapon that is LITERALLY specific to russian forces.. You are fucked.
 Quoting: RedEyeJedi


Oh for fuck sake. Do you think people commit false flags in their own national uniforms and weapons?!?!


That is about as much proof as Obama promising he is an American citizen.
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lol dude you're delusional. keep swallowing the western propaganda. did you even watch some of the videos posted today? according to you these civilians are terrorists, not ordinary citizens of east ukraine? and what about your beloved maidan people, are they peace-loving citizens in your view?
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Swallowing? wtf are you on about, I am repeating well known information that was released by the ukrainians. I never said i believed it i am just stating HWO THE FUCK THEY ARE GETTING AROUND THEIR CONSTITUTION TO MAKE IT LEGAL> so please spare me your uneducated theatrics...
 Quoting: RedEyeJedi


it's not legal according to the ukrainian constitution, no matter how they trin to spin it.
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And that is whos opinion on it? YOURS ALONE, go ask the ukrainian government how they feel, lets see if those fucking idiots feel what they are doing is legal or illegal. Im sure they will all say legal no matter wht YOUR opinion is and remember it is noone but YOURS.
 Quoting: RedEyeJedi


they know that what they are doing is illegal. they just try to spin it differently to make it appear legal. how about you READ the constitution YOURSELF and form your own educated opinion, instead of continually posting bs? oh i forgot, reading comprehension cannot be your best strength lol
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Funniest thing you'll ever read

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This shit it becoming way too ridiculous.
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this is my beef with this place, I don't have a problem with differing opinions...it when it breaks down to name calling and profanity that it is not in anyway useful. I would like to think most of the people in here are adults.
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Sad. Ego battles are killing this thread. No space for info in the middle of these wall of texts and insults.





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