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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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Pussy Riot's @tolokno is travelling Russia faster than Putin. Now Police dont let her to the Courthouse in Moscow. [link to twitter.com (secure)]
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Hmm.. there in lies an issue I've read about a little, that Ukraine and the others gave Russia an Euro/Asian feel and without them it becomes more Asian and less European, that in and of itself is a risky place for people to perceive they are..

Therein lies an major issue for the Russian leadership, maintain a foot hold in Europe or risk this "closer to Europe" feeling spreading into Russia itself.

How that pans out I have no idea, but there are certainly some issues to ponder..
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Ukraine estimates that it needs $35 billion in aid to stabilize its economy, acting Finance Minister Yury Kolobkov said.

The immense figure is exactly the sum of the $15 billion, which Russia pledged to lend in November, when the political crisis was it its first weeks, and the $20 billion, which the EU may lend to a new Ukrainian government, according to Elmar Brok, Chairman of the European Parliament Committee on Foreign Affairs.

Both Russia and the EU say they want to see a stable government in Ukraine, before any money will actually be transferred. The EU also demands financial reforms in Ukraine as a condition for aid.

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The smart ones would want to join Russia and the EU using Ukraine as the conduit between both.. if both aid packages where agreed along with opening up to both Russia and the EU, Ukraine could act as peace broker between both, and the people could profit along the way.. But then that is me and what I would consider, being independent and maintain trade with both..
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DETAILS: #Ukraine's Yanukovich left his residence in Crimea with aide for unknown destination [link to on.rt.com] pic.twitter.com/fRpREprleL

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It's so wrong, guys. So wrong @obk: This is Petya Verzilov @gruppa_voina being suffocated while being detained #wtf [link to twitter.com (secure)]
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Yanukovich's Party of Regions moves to opposition.

- Now I am totally confused. Who's the opposition and not opposition. Who plays white?


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YATSENYUK: NEW GOVT IS READY TO UNDERTAKE UNPOPULAR REFORMS

#Translated Euromaidan protesters should stay.Maybe Yatsenyuk is next to resign



Russian Market ‏@russian_market · 29 min
YATSENYUK: WE SHOULD TAKE CONTROL OF THE CENTRAL BANK

- says Yatsenyuk, who once worked there.

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I'm suprised nothing have happened yet???
Here in Sweden MSM they are taking about the future if Ukraine!!
They don't think anything will happen between Russia and Ukraine!!
I don't know!!!
Maybe it's over

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I'm suprised nothing have happened yet???
Here in Sweden MSM they are taking about the future if Ukraine!!
They don't think anything will happen between Russia and Ukraine!!
I don't know!!!
Maybe it's over

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lets see... i just hope Russia don't do anything wrong, but north provinces continue demanding the break up of Ukraine.
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Euromaidan in Cyprus? @minefornothing: CYPRUS STATE ELECTRICITY WORKERS ATTEMPT TO ENTER PARLIAMENT IN ANTI PRIVATIZATION PROTEST

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[link to rt.com]

Russia Today article which mentions southern and eastern Ukraine joining Russia. Must have been sanctioned by the Kremlin which means they are thinking of doing just that.
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Russian Market ‏@russian_market · 4 min
MERKEL'S SEIBERT SAYS "MULTINATIONAL" AID APPROACH FOR UKRAINE NEEDED.

- Yeah, why should Merkel bailout Ukraine alone before EU elections?




Russian Market ‏@russian_market · 6 min
MERKEL'S SEIBERT SAYS UKRAINE MUST REACH STABLE ECONOMIC SITUATION FIRST.

- So first Germans bring Ukraine to collapse, now wait and watch?

Russian Market ‏@russian_market · 9 min
MERKEL'S SEIBERT SAYS IT'S TOO EARLY TO ESTIMATE ECONOMIC AID FOR UKRAINE.

- But... but yesterday EU said you would bailout Ukraine?



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What about Russian troops movement from yesterday ?
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What about Russian troops movement from yesterday ?
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Its dark.. i cant see..
"So you mean to say they've taken what we thought we think and make us think we thought our thoughts we've been thinking our thoughts we think we thought?"
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Russian Market ‏@russian_market · 22 min
YATSENYUK: NEW GOVT IS READY TO UNDERTAKE UNPOPULAR REFORMS

#Translated Euromaidan protesters should stay.Maybe Yatsenyuk is next to resign



Russian Market ‏@russian_market · 29 min
YATSENYUK: WE SHOULD TAKE CONTROL OF THE CENTRAL BANK

- says Yatsenyuk, who once worked there.


 Quoting: Luisport


I'm suprised nothing have happened yet???
Here in Sweden MSM they are taking about the future if Ukraine!!
They don't think anything will happen between Russia and Ukraine!!
I don't know!!!
Maybe it's over

beat_shot
 Quoting: Limpan


lets see... i just hope Russia don't do anything wrong, but north provinces continue demanding the break up of Ukraine.
 Quoting: Luisport



Russian Market ‏@russian_market · 4 min
MERKEL'S SEIBERT SAYS "MULTINATIONAL" AID APPROACH FOR UKRAINE NEEDED.

- Yeah, why should Merkel bailout Ukraine alone before EU elections?




Russian Market ‏@russian_market · 6 min
MERKEL'S SEIBERT SAYS UKRAINE MUST REACH STABLE ECONOMIC SITUATION FIRST.

- So first Germans bring Ukraine to collapse, now wait and watch?

Russian Market ‏@russian_market · 9 min
MERKEL'S SEIBERT SAYS IT'S TOO EARLY TO ESTIMATE ECONOMIC AID FOR UKRAINE.

- But... but yesterday EU said you would bailout Ukraine?




 Quoting: Luisport

Some thing is going on here that just seems

so very strange. the western media act like the Ukrainian Crisis is over and all the need to do is sign the paper work and Ukraine is in the EU.

while there also taking about dividing up the Ukraine even thought Germany and Russia both think they should stay
together will all the time u see there action of splitting up and starting to take sides.
and all the while Putin and the Russian are just sitting there not saying a god damn thing. mmmmmm

me think some one is setting a trap like a cat that sits out side the mouse hole very silently just waiting for the stupid mouse to pop it head out then the cat pounces bites the mouse's head and crushes it skull. I have seen my cat do that a few times.

is Russia the cat and EU the mouse or vs visa

but some thing smells very rotting
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Seventy three percent of Russians believe Moscow should not interfere in the conflict in Ukraine, according to a survey conducted by VTsIOM in 42 regions. Only 15 percent of those polled think this is possible, Interfax reported. Ninety four percent of respondents do not want the Ukrainian scenario to be repeated in Russia. The survey was conducted at the beginning of February among 1600 respondents.

[link to rt.com]

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KIEV, Ukraine – Russian President Vladimir Putin had a plan for Ukraine, but it all fell apart Friday.

Big setbacks for the Kremlin? Yes, especially given the way they intruded upon the intended public relations triumph of the Sochi Winter Olympics. But a rout? Not if Putin can help it.

Revolution in the streets of Kiev is abhorrent to the Russian president, not least for the example it sets. Putin and his advisers have consistently misread Ukrainians’ devotion to their own sovereignty. But Russia still has a lot of leverage in Ukraine and a keen interest in using it. The cards have been reshuffled — so Putin will play the hand he has now been dealt and is unlikely to waste time or energy regretting the ones he lost.


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Western powers and Russia squared off over crisis-hit Ukraine as a top EU envoy prepared to fly to Kiev on Monday to buttress its new leaders' tilt away from Moscow.

Russia's fury at the breakneck pace of change in the ex-Soviet nation that saw president Viktor Yanukovych ousted following a week of carnage was on full display with Moscow's recall of its Kiev ambassador and freeze of its $15-billion Ukrainian bailout loan.


Read more: West and Russia square off over crisis-hit Ukraine - World - New Straits Times [link to www.nst.com.my]
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Russian Market ‏@russian_market · 4 min
MERKEL'S SEIBERT SAYS "MULTINATIONAL" AID APPROACH FOR UKRAINE NEEDED.

- Yeah, why should Merkel bailout Ukraine alone before EU elections?




Russian Market ‏@russian_market · 6 min
MERKEL'S SEIBERT SAYS UKRAINE MUST REACH STABLE ECONOMIC SITUATION FIRST.

- So first Germans bring Ukraine to collapse, now wait and watch?

Russian Market ‏@russian_market · 9 min
MERKEL'S SEIBERT SAYS IT'S TOO EARLY TO ESTIMATE ECONOMIC AID FOR UKRAINE.

- But... but yesterday EU said you would bailout Ukraine?




 Quoting: Luisport


ITS THE USUAL SHITTY GERMAN DOUBLE SPEAK!

Wolfgang Schäuble: We should give them loans..
Angela Merkel No we shouldn't they must do this or that first!
Wolfgang Schäuble: We shouldn't give them anything.
Angela Merkel: No! maybe we should!
Wolfgang Schäuble: Or we shouldn't
Angela Merkel: Yes we should!

They going to argue each other to death DRAGING THEIR FEET until you drop dead. Corpses can't fight battles!
Then they close in for the taking.

Clever people those Germans...But see how it's going to turn out in the end. They will be the ones kicking and screaming all over again. Just wait and see....
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Seventy three percent of Russians believe Moscow should not interfere in the conflict in Ukraine, according to a survey conducted by VTsIOM in 42 regions. Only 15 percent of those polled think this is possible, Interfax reported. Ninety four percent of respondents do not want the Ukrainian scenario to be repeated in Russia. The survey was conducted at the beginning of February among 1600 respondents.

[link to rt.com]

spock
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Are surveys to be trusted?
Who is making them and for which reasons?
If you believe those, 70% of Greeks supposedly favor a Neo Nazi party that will become government!
A remnant of the old Stay Behind doctrine, Cold War, Gladio Operation asset.
NOT!
The Obama "Lead from Behind" are using the "Stay behinds" of the Cold War.
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Ukraine just needs to declare their independence and not have any nation tie them down with loans and conditions.

They could declare independence and apply taxes to the oil that runs through their country as well as apply taxes to the EU for that oil.

Then they could have prosperity and make money.

The problem they are running into is that the oil and gas pipelines were put in place by the USSR and the Kremlin does not want to lose grip of this important piece of power. The some goes for the EU, they want control of these and they see a weak Ukraine right now and are like vultures trying to get a piece of the action.

Declare independence Ukraine do not let other nations control you for short term gain of financial stability.

Stability will come with time from revenue generated from pipelines that are yours and you will see a prosperous Ukraine!
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Bad taste house of one of Yanukovich's corrupt chums:

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

And thats just the entrance hall.
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Bad taste house of one of Yanukovich's corrupt chums:

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

And thats just the entrance hall.
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Here is a better link :)

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Bad taste house of one of Yanukovich's corrupt chums:

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

And thats just the entrance hall.
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One word explains it all...Oligarchy.

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"Western governments are scrambling to provide support for Ukraine amid fears that Russia could send in troops to intervene in support of its ousted ally." - Sky News


It does seem that even the MSM are no awake to the very real possibility of Russia sending in the troops. Now that the Olympics are over and the west has firmly, and publicly, committed itself to supporting the Ukrainian revolutionaries things are just how Putin wants them.

This is win-win for Russia. If they invade Ukraine they can say that they have been 'invited' in by the eastern and southern regions. If NATO does not militarily support the western Ukraine then Russia knows it is also free to move on the Baltic states and other eastern European nations with no military consequences, if NATO does respond then Russia will just do what it always wanted to do and take over the rest of Europe.

NATO is fractured and weak. The US military is bankrupt. Russia is stronger than ever. Its a no brainer.





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