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Thank you for the update on The Saker blog. Missed that somehow.

Here is a nice picture for you taken from front of my house.
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I hope you will recover soon from that inconvenience hf
Thats a great view you have ... wauwwwww...

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And how Dutch explain their actions?
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I'm absolutely disgusted knowing that my country continues to let itself be used like some obedient little bitch in this silly geopolitical tug of war. Only the truth matters, it should matter especially to us. And so far, i haven't been even remotely close to being convinced that the seperatists and Russia were responsible. The only thing the MSM and the UK/US did was pointing the finger only hours after it happened. Way too convenient.

We're talking about one of the must surveilled areas of the world, with the most modern tech capable of seeing the smallest details, and ever since this happened, we got nothing, zilch. Everything that can give people some direction is confiscated.

If they had smoking gun evidence that the seperatists and Russia are responsible it would be on the front page of every news outlet in the western sphere of influence.

I think the true criminals still enjoy their protection because the real truth can't afford to be leaked out to the masses, because there's so much at stake. The ones supposedly "caring" about the Dutch people and facing the cameras with faked emotions. It makes me sick.

I don't give a flying fuck if Ukraine would fall back into the Russian fold, i'd welcome it, if it would mean those responsible will eventually face justice. Better that, than to have these puppets do NATO's and the EU's dirty work as a peon of an cold war that never ended.

I think, or hope that in time, people will draw their own conclusions from the smokescreen Ukraine, the Netherlands, US and all else involved are creating around this massacre and demand . And to me, the very thought that my own government would keep the truth hidden about it's very own citizens. They owe it to us and the families of those hit to be impartial.

Ofcourse, they won't. Nah, screw honesty. Screw standing up to the ever lasting corruption and expanse eastwards at all costs. Let's just use our own dead citizens as some kind of moral "weapon" against Russia while the real thugs escape. I hope they burn for this.
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Disgusted enough to refuse your pension? What about renounce your citizenship?
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one big explosion in the city area destroy windows

what about all this windows destroyed in east Ukraine , it is only two months before the warm weather will be gone to winter time .
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And how Dutch explain their actions?
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I'm absolutely disgusted knowing that my country continues to let itself be used like some obedient little bitch in this silly geopolitical tug of war. Only the truth matters, it should matter especially to us. And so far, i haven't been even remotely close to being convinced that the seperatists and Russia were responsible. The only thing the MSM and the UK/US did was pointing the finger only hours after it happened. Way too convenient.

We're talking about one of the must surveilled areas of the world, with the most modern tech capable of seeing the smallest details, and ever since this happened, we got nothing, zilch. Everything that can give people some direction is confiscated.

If they had smoking gun evidence that the seperatists and Russia are responsible it would be on the front page of every news outlet in the western sphere of influence.

I think the true criminals still enjoy their protection because the real truth can't afford to be leaked out to the masses, because there's so much at stake. The ones supposedly "caring" about the Dutch people and facing the cameras with faked emotions. It makes me sick.

I don't give a flying fuck if Ukraine would fall back into the Russian fold, i'd welcome it, if it would mean those responsible will eventually face justice. Better that, than to have these puppets do NATO's and the EU's dirty work as a peon of an cold war that never ended.

I think, or hope that in time, people will draw their own conclusions from the smokescreen Ukraine, the Netherlands, US and all else involved are creating around this massacre and demand . And to me, the very thought that my own government would keep the truth hidden about it's very own citizens. They owe it to us and the families of those hit to be impartial.

Ofcourse, they won't. Nah, screw honesty. Screw standing up to the ever lasting corruption and expanse eastwards at all costs. Let's just use our own dead citizens as some kind of moral "weapon" against Russia while the real thugs escape. I hope they burn for this.
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"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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If they had smoking gun evidence that the seperatists and Russia are responsible it would be on the front page of every news outlet in the western sphere of influence.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57271883



situation is complicate it is why they do not saying everything
it was a tactic to hide military jets near passenger aeroplanes
so they made passenger aeroplanes to be not flying there
of cource this does not justify untill they will say that planes bombed the towns for example
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And how Dutch explain their actions?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62003933


I'm absolutely disgusted knowing that my country continues to let itself be used like some obedient little bitch in this silly geopolitical tug of war. Only the truth matters, it should matter especially to us. And so far, i haven't been even remotely close to being convinced that the seperatists and Russia were responsible. The only thing the MSM and the UK/US did was pointing the finger only hours after it happened. Way too convenient.

We're talking about one of the must surveilled areas of the world, with the most modern tech capable of seeing the smallest details, and ever since this happened, we got nothing, zilch. Everything that can give people some direction is confiscated.

If they had smoking gun evidence that the seperatists and Russia are responsible it would be on the front page of every news outlet in the western sphere of influence.

I think the true criminals still enjoy their protection because the real truth can't afford to be leaked out to the masses, because there's so much at stake. The ones supposedly "caring" about the Dutch people and facing the cameras with faked emotions. It makes me sick.

I don't give a flying fuck if Ukraine would fall back into the Russian fold, i'd welcome it, if it would mean those responsible will eventually face justice. Better that, than to have these puppets do NATO's and the EU's dirty work as a peon of an cold war that never ended.

I think, or hope that in time, people will draw their own conclusions from the smokescreen Ukraine, the Netherlands, US and all else involved are creating around this massacre and demand . And to me, the very thought that my own government would keep the truth hidden about it's very own citizens. They owe it to us and the families of those hit to be impartial.

Ofcourse, they won't. Nah, screw honesty. Screw standing up to the ever lasting corruption and expanse eastwards at all costs. Let's just use our own dead citizens as some kind of moral "weapon" against Russia while the real thugs escape. I hope they burn for this.
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Disgusted enough to refuse your pension? What about renounce your citizenship?
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Well with a pension he could move to Costa Rico, party with the senoritas and watch WWIII from a lounge chair on the beach with a cold Margarita. Learn to speak Spanish. EU is finished.
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If they had smoking gun evidence that the seperatists and Russia are responsible it would be on the front page of every news outlet in the western sphere of influence.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57271883



situation is complicate it is why they do not saying everything
it was a tactic to hide military jets near passenger aeroplanes
so they made passenger aeroplanes to be not flying there
of cource this does not justify untill they will say that planes bombed the towns for example
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1488672


The situation is "complicated," only because the evidence points to Ukraine and that might cost a lot of people a lot of money.
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If they had smoking gun evidence that the seperatists and Russia are responsible it would be on the front page of every news outlet in the western sphere of influence.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57271883



situation is complicate it is why they do not saying everything
it was a tactic to hide military jets near passenger aeroplanes
so they made passenger aeroplanes to be not flying there
of cource this does not justify untill they will say that planes bombed the towns for example
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1488672


Nevertheless, possible that this happened in another way .
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If they had smoking gun evidence that the seperatists and Russia are responsible it would be on the front page of every news outlet in the western sphere of influence.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57271883



situation is complicate it is why they do not saying everything
it was a tactic to hide military jets near passenger aeroplanes
so they made passenger aeroplanes to be not flying there
of cource this does not justify untill they will say that planes bombed the towns for example
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1488672


The situation is "complicated," only because the evidence points to Ukraine and that might cost a lot of people a lot of money.
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hesright

And Obongo his Nobel prize...
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
________________________________________________________​__________________
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Battalion Shakhtersk retreats from Ilovaysk with casualties


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There is not many footages like this. We have many footages from self-defence forces, where we can see destroyed Banderistas vehicles, equipment even battles with Banderistas. But we have almost nothing like that from Banderistan point of view. I think this is mainly because when Banderistas go to close battles...well, they usally never come back so there is no one who can posts battle footage of Banderistas.
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You are Staljinista or KGBista?
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Battalion Shakhtersk retreats from Ilovaysk with casualties


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There is not many footages like this. We have many footages from self-defence forces, where we can see destroyed Banderistas vehicles, equipment even battles with Banderistas. But we have almost nothing like that from Banderistan point of view. I think this is mainly because when Banderistas go to close battles...well, they usally never come back so there is no one who can posts battle footage of Banderistas.
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You are Staljinista or KGBista?
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I am Pol Potist u sucker.
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"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
________________________________________________________​__________________
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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#Russia's humanitarian aid unloaded in #Lugansk. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] … via @RuptlyNewsroom #Ukraine


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...


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Za Svyatuyu Rus' i Novorossiyu Goofy Thum
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Za Slovany a za za nasi zem!

resist
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Za krst casni i slobodu zlatnu!

resist
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Absouletlly correct. In my country there was looted huge amount of sources and it still continues. Poldi Kladno, our greatest steelworks, was deliberately destroyed becuse they had special kind of technology and they did not want ot sell it to western looters. Many things like that happend, equipment was sold via western holdings and plants was closed. There are no social guarantees anmore for no one. Banks in hands of international corporations looting everyone. Democracy is a poor lie, we are intercepted and tracked on every our single step. Orwells 1984 in process right now...
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Situation in Poland is unbelievable now

they said yesterday that money for social guarantees of pension are for 1,5 year

queues to doctors specialists are from 5 months to 15 years .

examples of waiting for a visit to doctors specialists

allergist, - 130 days

Allergist children, - 189 days

endocrinologist, - 406 days

neurosurgery, - 452 days

physiotherapy, - 1456 days

hip replacement - 1032 days

cataract surgery - 1118 days
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That's terrible. Socialist system?
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Shits getting real.

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sfan
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Uh huh.

Same place where innocent people killed by bombs and drones are called "collateral damage".

Where the legalized destruction of the Constitution was called "The Patriot Act".

Where aggressive government discrimination against white people is called "affirmative action".

Where populations in countries attacked are killed to "bring them freedom".

Where . . .

You get the drift.
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Beside storyline about killed Lithuanian honorary Consul in Luhansk:



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“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
________________________________________________________​__________________
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Russia's lead state-propaganda agency RT prepares to air in German and French, as Russia steps up its psychological warfare efforts abroad with focus on Europe.

I am hoping this will backfire and actually open more European eyes to the war that Russia is waging against the West.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1020354

hesright
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62001975


Someone in Germany actually started a petition they were going to send to RT asking them to air in Germany too... 29100 people have signed by now... which is actually not that bad, Germans aren't really too big on signing petitions.
[link to www.openpetition.de (secure)]
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I love this guy. RIP George. We will always love ya.
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Comedy = tragedy + timed delivery.
He speaks the truth and gets a laugh.

The program he reveals has expanded beyond USA to the whole western world.

Humanitarian aid is now invasion.
Deceit is now truth.
And our taxes and our consumption pay to hire those to spread deceit.

He laid it out for the people. Will they understand?

I believe they will.
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And how Dutch explain their actions?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62003933


I'm absolutely disgusted knowing that my country continues to let itself be used like some obedient little bitch in this silly geopolitical tug of war. Only the truth matters, it should matter especially to us. And so far, i haven't been even remotely close to being convinced that the seperatists and Russia were responsible. The only thing the MSM and the UK/US did was pointing the finger only hours after it happened. Way too convenient.

We're talking about one of the must surveilled areas of the world, with the most modern tech capable of seeing the smallest details, and ever since this happened, we got nothing, zilch. Everything that can give people some direction is confiscated.

If they had smoking gun evidence that the seperatists and Russia are responsible it would be on the front page of every news outlet in the western sphere of influence.

I think the true criminals still enjoy their protection because the real truth can't afford to be leaked out to the masses, because there's so much at stake. The ones supposedly "caring" about the Dutch people and facing the cameras with faked emotions. It makes me sick.

I don't give a flying fuck if Ukraine would fall back into the Russian fold, i'd welcome it, if it would mean those responsible will eventually face justice. Better that, than to have these puppets do NATO's and the EU's dirty work as a peon of an cold war that never ended.

I think, or hope that in time, people will draw their own conclusions from the smokescreen Ukraine, the Netherlands, US and all else involved are creating around this massacre and demand . And to me, the very thought that my own government would keep the truth hidden about it's very own citizens. They owe it to us and the families of those hit to be impartial.

Ofcourse, they won't. Nah, screw honesty. Screw standing up to the ever lasting corruption and expanse eastwards at all costs. Let's just use our own dead citizens as some kind of moral "weapon" against Russia while the real thugs escape. I hope they burn for this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57271883

Disgusted enough to refuse your pension? What about renounce your citizenship?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59906596


Well with a pension he could move to Costa Rico, party with the senoritas and watch WWIII from a lounge chair on the beach with a cold Margarita. Learn to speak Spanish. EU is finished.
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That's too optimistic and naive point of view. Big wars usually are accompanied by big natural disasters, partially man made. In case of nuclear strikes all planet will suffer. Then bunkers will at some extent save elite from radiation. In case of scalar weapons used even bunkers will become useless. So partying with senoritas not gonna happen, sorry. And also if in WW2 US was not much involved in WW3 it will be totally involved and as you know soil in US is mostly soft and that's why many houses do not have underground bunkers, so probably too many will suffer. So WW3 is not a war to win but war to reduce population for 2/3 exactly according to plans of TPTB.
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Russia's lead state-propaganda agency RT prepares to air in German and French, as Russia steps up its psychological warfare efforts abroad with focus on Europe.

I am hoping this will backfire and actually open more European eyes to the war that Russia is waging against the West.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1020354

hesright
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62001975


Someone in Germany actually started a petition they were going to send to RT asking them to air in Germany too... 29100 people have signed by now... which is actually not that bad, Germans aren't really too big on signing petitions.
[link to www.openpetition.de (secure)]
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No what happened is that a Russian shill started a German petition and a bunch of other Russian shills signed it. Nobody in Germany wants a mass of Russian lies.
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Russia's lead state-propaganda agency RT prepares to air in German and French, as Russia steps up its psychological warfare efforts abroad with focus on Europe.

I am hoping this will backfire and actually open more European eyes to the war that Russia is waging against the West.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1020354

hesright
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62001975


Someone in Germany actually started a petition they were going to send to RT asking them to air in Germany too... 29100 people have signed by now... which is actually not that bad, Germans aren't really too big on signing petitions.
[link to www.openpetition.de (secure)]
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Way to go Germany! RT after all is not that much of propaganda BS. It has lots of scholars in different fields sharing their expert opinions which doesn't align with MSM BS
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#US says #Russia must pull convoy from #Ukraine or face more sanctions
"When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die."
-Jean Paul Sartre

"In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason."
-Ernest Hemingway

"China is a sleeping giant, Let her sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world."
-Napoleon Bonaparte

"Streets of Leningrad taught me one thing - if fight is inevitable, throw the first punch."
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World War 3 prediction: Summer 2020.
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#US says #Russia must pull convoy from #Ukraine or face more sanctions
 Quoting: Falter


As they should. One way or another Putin and all his Russian terrorist buddies are going to learn they cannot do whatever they want in violation of international laws and norms, and that they cannot attack neighbors and steal things from foreign nations at will. Either they learn it, or they will be destroyed.
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I'm absolutely disgusted knowing that my country continues to let itself be used like some obedient little bitch in this silly geopolitical tug of war. Only the truth matters, it should matter especially to us. And so far, i haven't been even remotely close to being convinced that the seperatists and Russia were responsible. The only thing the MSM and the UK/US did was pointing the finger only hours after it happened. Way too convenient.

We're talking about one of the must surveilled areas of the world, with the most modern tech capable of seeing the smallest details, and ever since this happened, we got nothing, zilch. Everything that can give people some direction is confiscated.

If they had smoking gun evidence that the seperatists and Russia are responsible it would be on the front page of every news outlet in the western sphere of influence.

I think the true criminals still enjoy their protection because the real truth can't afford to be leaked out to the masses, because there's so much at stake. The ones supposedly "caring" about the Dutch people and facing the cameras with faked emotions. It makes me sick.

I don't give a flying fuck if Ukraine would fall back into the Russian fold, i'd welcome it, if it would mean those responsible will eventually face justice. Better that, than to have these puppets do NATO's and the EU's dirty work as a peon of an cold war that never ended.

I think, or hope that in time, people will draw their own conclusions from the smokescreen Ukraine, the Netherlands, US and all else involved are creating around this massacre and demand . And to me, the very thought that my own government would keep the truth hidden about it's very own citizens. They owe it to us and the families of those hit to be impartial.

Ofcourse, they won't. Nah, screw honesty. Screw standing up to the ever lasting corruption and expanse eastwards at all costs. Let's just use our own dead citizens as some kind of moral "weapon" against Russia while the real thugs escape. I hope they burn for this.
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Disgusted enough to refuse your pension? What about renounce your citizenship?
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Well with a pension he could move to Costa Rico, party with the senoritas and watch WWIII from a lounge chair on the beach with a cold Margarita. Learn to speak Spanish. EU is finished.
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That's too optimistic and naive point of view. Big wars usually are accompanied by big natural disasters, partially man made. In case of nuclear strikes all planet will suffer. Then bunkers will at some extent save elite from radiation. In case of scalar weapons used even bunkers will become useless. So partying with senoritas not gonna happen, sorry. And also if in WW2 US was not much involved in WW3 it will be totally involved and as you know soil in US is mostly soft and that's why many houses do not have underground bunkers, so probably too many will suffer. So WW3 is not a war to win but war to reduce population for 2/3 exactly according to plans of TPTB.
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If you are on a pension how many years do you suppose you have to live? One good year is worth 10 scrapping by in austerity fascism.

If one is an older guy on a pension, partying with the young senorita's in Costa Rica is better than waiting in for line for a senior coffee and getting chased out of Micky D's because you want to read the morning paper.
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Someone in Germany actually started a petition they were going to send to RT asking them to air in Germany too... 29100 people have signed by now... which is actually not that bad, Germans aren't really too big on signing petitions.
[link to www.openpetition.de (secure)]
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No what happened is that a Russian shill started a German petition and a bunch of other Russian shills signed it. Nobody in Germany wants a mass of Russian lies.
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Yeah yeah. It seems to me Russia has had a great spike in population in these last few months, with people born in other countries, who often don't even speak Russian, suddenly becoming "Russian agents"...

Or perhaps people are actually waking up and smelling the shit. I for one am a German living in western Germany, I don't speak a word of Russian, and I still signed it. Because I am so fucking sick of the way my own government and media lie like cheap rugs! By the way: All comment sections of all big German newspapers are 80% against EUSA actions. Those Russian shills must be very busy and very competent to have almost completely drowned out all German commenters, and speak very good German at the same time. LOL. At this point, leading MSM have even started attacking each other - Handelsblatt, a leading business magazine, has called another leading newspaper, FAZ, "idiotic warmongers who should reimburse their readers for the stuff they've sold"... And all MSM are whining that they're rapidly losing readers and subscriptions...
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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Rock Solid Politics ‏@BradCabana 23 min
#US says #Russia must pull convoy from #Ukraine or face more sanctions
 Quoting: Falter


As they should. One way or another Putin and all his Russian terrorist buddies are going to learn they cannot do whatever they want in violation of international laws and norms, and that they cannot attack neighbors and steal things from foreign nations at will. Either they learn it, or they will be destroyed.
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And who do you suppose is going to destroy them? You watch too much televised fantasy.
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Rock Solid Politics ‏@BradCabana 23 min
#US says #Russia must pull convoy from #Ukraine or face more sanctions
 Quoting: Falter


As they should. One way or another Putin and all his Russian terrorist buddies are going to learn they cannot do whatever they want in violation of international laws and norms, and that they cannot attack neighbors and steal things from foreign nations at will. Either they learn it, or they will be destroyed.
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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Rock Solid Politics ‏@BradCabana 23 min
#US says #Russia must pull convoy from #Ukraine or face more sanctions
 Quoting: Falter


As they should. One way or another Putin and all his Russian terrorist buddies are going to learn they cannot do whatever they want in violation of international laws and norms, and that they cannot attack neighbors and steal things from foreign nations at will. Either they learn it, or they will be destroyed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62025448


NATO gets away with it, why not Russia?

Sanctions are pointless. The world economy is already shaking pretty bad, adding more and more pressure to it will make it collapse.
Let's just hope that US doesn't make EU put even more sanctions on Russia. That would end really bad for us in Europe.

Last Edited by Falter on 08/22/2014 09:21 PM
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