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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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As a veteran this worries me. Its hard to say what will happen.
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One little mistake by any country at this point, and shit will roll down hill fast.
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Russian fighter jet makes multiple, close-range passes near an American warship in the Black Sea - @AP

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A U.S. military official says a Russian fighter jet made multiple, close-range passes near an American warship in the Black Sea for more than 90 minutes Saturday amid escalating tensions in the region

[link to hosted.ap.org]
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Thank you, actually just answered my post above grinning
"If God saw what any of us did that night he didn't seem to mind. From then on I knew... God doesn't make the world this way. We do." --Rorschach

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That this foul deed shall smell above the earth
With carrion men, groaning for burial." - Shakespeare

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WASHINGTON (AP) -- A U.S. military official says a Russian fighter jet made multiple, close-range passes near an American warship in the Black Sea for more than 90 minutes Saturday amid escalating tensions in the region.

The official says the fighter flew within 1,000 yards of the USS Donald Cook, a Navy destroyer, at about 500 feet above sea level

 Quoting: RelentlessDespot


Just having a look. Nothing wrong with that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25249790


I'm sure they waved at each other :)
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.

Or something
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Turchynov signs secret decree "on urgent measures to deal with the terrorist threat & territorial integrity of #Ukraine." No more details.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56811900


Not that secret really is it :)

Sorry not logged in, posting on the move from my iPad
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Janey - what are you hearing about the Russian fighter jets buzzing the USS Donald Cook in the Black Sea on Saturday?
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Honestly I was not aware, but will dig around
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NewsBreaker&#8207;@NewsBreaker·1 min
Russian fighter jet makes multiple, close-range passes near an American warship in the Black Sea - @AP

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A U.S. military official says a Russian fighter jet made multiple, close-range passes near an American warship in the Black Sea for more than 90 minutes Saturday amid escalating tensions in the region

[link to hosted.ap.org]
 Quoting: < DL >


Judge them by their actions not by their words. Russia test fired ICBM and makes "provocation" near US ship. It is ready for war.
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NewsBreaker&#8207;@NewsBreaker·1 min
Russian fighter jet makes multiple, close-range passes near an American warship in the Black Sea - @AP

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A U.S. military official says a Russian fighter jet made multiple, close-range passes near an American warship in the Black Sea for more than 90 minutes Saturday amid escalating tensions in the region

[link to hosted.ap.org]
 Quoting: < DL >


Judge them by their actions not by their words. Russia test fired ICBM and makes "provocation" near US ship. It is ready for war.
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More costs!
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Ukraine Reporter&#8207;@StateOfUkraine·49 secs
#Donetsk: airport seized by pro-#Kremlin forces, #Ukraine forces can't land for anti-terrorist operation. TV companies are next in the line.
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Writer with "Foreign Policy Magazine" - her rumint is probably credible:


Christian Caryl&#8207;@ccaryl·18 mins
Here in #Odessa, rumor mill says that pro-Russian activists from Transnistria heading into town to stir things up tomorrow. Watching


Christian Caryl&#8207;@ccaryl·8 mins
@omarali50 @dandrezner Many sources here say Putin will introduce "peacekeepers" to keep E. UKR regions independent (but unlikely to annex)
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Ukraine Reporter &#8207;@StateOfUkraine · 1m
#Donetsk: airport seized by pro-#Kremlin forces, #Ukraine forces can't land for anti-terrorist operation. TV companies are next in the line
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NewsBreaker&#8207;@NewsBreaker·1 min
Russian fighter jet makes multiple, close-range passes near an American warship in the Black Sea - @AP

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A U.S. military official says a Russian fighter jet made multiple, close-range passes near an American warship in the Black Sea for more than 90 minutes Saturday amid escalating tensions in the region

[link to hosted.ap.org]
 Quoting: < DL >


this is not a good thing, could have a serious misread and some serious shit could happen
 Quoting: GodzillaReturns


Apparently Russian military jets tend to buzz around a lot. I heard a couple of years ago that they sometimes go into British airspace and are kindly asked to leave. Not sure if that's true though.
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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
I'm just going to leave this here...

Whenever you see someone post the "Putin laughing" clip.

Know what he's laughing about.

NATO missiles.



He's ready to face NATO. He's been prepping for it for a long time.
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Ukraine Reporter&#8207;@StateOfUkraine·49 secs
#Donetsk: airport seized by pro-#Kremlin forces, #Ukraine forces can't land for anti-terrorist operation. TV companies are next in the line.
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clappa
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As a veteran this worries me. Its hard to say what will happen.
 Quoting: Obtrice1985


One little mistake by any country at this point, and shit will roll down hill fast.
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hesright
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#Donetsk: airport seized by pro-#Kremlin forces, #Ukraine forces can't land for anti-terrorist operation. TV companies are next in the line.

5a
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As a veteran this worries me. Its hard to say what will happen.
 Quoting: Obtrice1985


One little mistake by any country at this point, and shit will roll down hill fast.
 Quoting: Obtrice1985

And imagine if you'd be an alien looking down on us. A bunch on people, who are all the same, trying to do everything in their power to destroy/kill each other. Like wtf bunch on dumbasses.
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NewsBreaker&#8207;@NewsBreaker·1 min
Russian fighter jet makes multiple, close-range passes near an American warship in the Black Sea - @AP

 Quoting: < DL >


A U.S. military official says a Russian fighter jet made multiple, close-range passes near an American warship in the Black Sea for more than 90 minutes Saturday amid escalating tensions in the region

[link to hosted.ap.org]
 Quoting: < DL >


this is not a good thing, could have a serious misread and some serious shit could happen
 Quoting: GodzillaReturns


Apparently Russian military jets tend to buzz around a lot. I heard a couple of years ago that they sometimes go into British airspace and are kindly asked to leave. Not sure if that's true though.
 Quoting: RBR


Treaty on Open Skies

To illustrate the scope of the Treaty, Germany and Italy have to accept 12 overflights per year, while Russia (including Belarus) and the United States must permit 42 overflights each.
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#Donetsk: airport seized by pro-#Kremlin forces, #Ukraine forces can't land for anti-terrorist operation. TV companies are next in the line.

5a
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Did I not post this some 4 hours ago. :)
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#Donetsk: airport seized by pro-#Kremlin forces, #Ukraine forces can't land for anti-terrorist operation. TV companies are next in the line.

5a
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Did I not post this some 4 hours ago. :)
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Yep you did.
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Sorry but why is it the job of the United States to sort out disputes between Russia and Ukraine?
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Exactly, who cares where obama is
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It's a welfare package.
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NewsBreaker&#8207;@NewsBreaker·1 min
Russian fighter jet makes multiple, close-range passes near an American warship in the Black Sea - @AP

 Quoting: < DL >


A U.S. military official says a Russian fighter jet made multiple, close-range passes near an American warship in the Black Sea for more than 90 minutes Saturday amid escalating tensions in the region

[link to hosted.ap.org]
 Quoting: < DL >


this is not a good thing, could have a serious misread and some serious shit could happen
 Quoting: GodzillaReturns


Apparently Russian military jets tend to buzz around a lot. I heard a couple of years ago that they sometimes go into British airspace and are kindly asked to leave. Not sure if that's true though.
 Quoting: RBR

It's ture, google these things. They do the same things in baltics, poland, japan, sweden, finland and probably a lot of other places too.
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NewsBreaker&#8207;@NewsBreaker·1 min
Russian fighter jet makes multiple, close-range passes near an American warship in the Black Sea - @AP

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A U.S. military official says a Russian fighter jet made multiple, close-range passes near an American warship in the Black Sea for more than 90 minutes Saturday amid escalating tensions in the region

[link to hosted.ap.org]
 Quoting: < DL >


this is not a good thing, could have a serious misread and some serious shit could happen
 Quoting: GodzillaReturns


It's a none event, to be honest.
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Alexander Marquardt&#8207;@MarquardtA·31 secs
Military helicopter that just flew over downtown Donetsk. #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/ylpblgtxT2
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Writer with "Foreign Policy Magazine" - her rumint is probably credible:


Christian Caryl&#8207;@ccaryl·18 mins
Here in #Odessa, rumor mill says that pro-Russian activists from Transnistria heading into town to stir things up tomorrow. Watching


Christian Caryl&#8207;@ccaryl·8 mins
@omarali50 @dandrezner Many sources here say Putin will introduce "peacekeepers" to keep E. UKR regions independent (but unlikely to annex)
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So now Russians from Moldavia are coming in?! Thats becoming ridiculous.
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I'm just going to leave this here...

Whenever you see someone post the "Putin laughing" clip.

Know what he's laughing about.

NATO missiles.



He's ready to face NATO. He's been prepping for it for a long time.
 Quoting: Melrox



Yup, the missile shield that the reporter stated was against Iran. People need to really look into the EU/North American Union/Asian Union stuff that totally leaves Russia out. It is long and complicated, but I think is what is at the heart of this matter. Russia being marginalized and surrounded.
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...


so that basically means if the UA military attack Russian troops will act... ?
 Quoting: Anderson_G


I think the Russians were ready to come in as a response to Ukraine trying to shut down the protests but I don't think it is a necessity for them. The threat and that disastrous double down by Ukraine reaffirming it at the UN is probably sufficient for them. At this point Russia's operational objectives are the controlling factor and diplomacy effectively ended at the UN last night. There will be no meeting on Thursday IMO but there will definitely be a Lavrov trip to Peking tomorrow.

The question now is when it becomes operationally necessary to go beyond the self defense charade that has been going on thus far. Russia will want a referendum to legitimize its political goals in Ukraine and there is no way they will let any outsiders conduct that referendum. At some point they must move. The end game in Ukraine should begin very soon now.

The next phase will be NATO's response along other parts of Europe bordering Russia. Russia has already signaled that it will make an issue of any new permanent deployments.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56775373


well they can't act out of impulse, I think Putin has been scratching his head and thinking hard here, one false move and he could leave other parts of Russia Vulnerable cant spit out tanks and aircraft as quick as WW2 alot more Tech is involved now lose to many and the balance is shifted this is the Same IMO for NATO forces at least with Europe there is plenty of land for new airstips to go up but useless if there is no craft present...
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Agree. When it comes to the next phase no one can act out of impulse. It will just be a lot more dangerous for the rest of the world as both sides calculate their moves.
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and then when the tech has to be kept behind for defence purposes then it would be man to man combat or effectively a stalemate which should bring a peace accord about say after 2-4 months of conventional fighting ( Assuming NATO VS Russia) if that fails then it would be missiles hot and splash...
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As a veteran this worries me. Its hard to say what will happen.
 Quoting: Obtrice1985


One little mistake by any country at this point, and shit will roll down hill fast.
 Quoting: Obtrice1985


setting the stage for a false flag maybe just saying
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NATO MUST STEP IN TO PREVENT RUSSIAN TERRORISTS KILLING ETHNIC TARTARS. US/TURKEY MUST GET INVOLVED.
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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
FACT: It is against the constitution of Ukraine to use the Ukrainian military against the the people/residents of Ukraine.

That is the reason you did not see the Ukrainian military fight against the fascist that took power by force in Kiev 3 weeks ago.

So by law and the constitution it is illegal for the current declared leadership of Ukraine to strike the protesters with military force.

This is why there is no attack...the military commanders are refusing the illegal and unconstitutional order.

Now you know why Obama sacked over 200 high ranking officers in the US military...he does not want the same thing to happen in the US when he orders the US military to kill American patriots.
 Quoting: PIR


Bullshit ! People with machineguns seizing police departments and administrative buildings cannot be viewed as simple citizens, but terrorists. And terrorists should be either seized or illiminated. Once Ukrainian government will manage to stop further infiltration of GRU/FSB groups all these russian-made protests will be dead. As for your bullshiting based on invented reasons (caused by ill imagination or prepaid propaganda) why there are no hard actions from military commanders, there are no actions because for this it's necessary to have 1). a political will, 2). true commanders, 3). balls. All 3 are missing right now. Similar weakness with "leaders" was on Maydan and that's why Right Sector took initiative in its hands in February. Ukraine was never in such situation. Give us time and you will see. If Turchinov and actual government continue be criminally passive and lose the East, they are politically dead at a minimum or will be brought to trial.
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regor Peter &#8207;@L0gg0l · 12 seg
Unconfirmed reports that pro-Kremlin forces are occupying Donetsk airport (via @asluhn)



The Associated Press &#8207;@AP · 12 min
MORE: The military official says the Russian fighter flew within 1,000 yards of the USS Donald Cook: [link to apne.ws]



Gregor Peter &#8207;@L0gg0l · 12 min
RUSSIAN FIGHTER JET PASSES OVER U.S WARSHIP IN BLACK SEA, AP SAYS [link to hosted.ap.org] …
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NATO MUST STEP IN TO PREVENT RUSSIAN TERRORISTS KILLING ETHNIC TARTARS. US/TURKEY MUST GET INVOLVED.
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