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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56599707 Croatia 04/09/2014 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 People keep making the mistake of presuming Putin is just another head of state. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56599180 Picture him as your local gang leader and you'll be far more accurate in predicting his next move: Drunk on power, inclined to steal rather than negotiate, gets off on starting fights, and by definition hurtling toward lunacy. sorry we don't have local gang leaders over here, I'm not from Detroit Trust me, you do ;) Over there they don't call them gang leaders. They call them antifascists. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56599180 United States 04/09/2014 09:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 I love how one Putinese talking point here is, "Absolutely no Russians have been responsible for what's happening, and those who have are completely justified because they're Russian!" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55838564 France 04/09/2014 09:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 I too am a nationalist and believe in the right of self determination of all peoples including Ukraine. How would you describe the right sector and their methods if not fascist? ultra-nationalist. If they wanted to change the constitution, have corporate elites run industry and government and end democratic processes, then they would be fascists. According to the "official founder" Mussolini, fascism is "the merger of the State and the Corporation". You don't need a dictator, black shirts, and all that folklore. Do you remember the Business Plot ? Nowadays, see : Goldman-Sachs, Monsanto, Halliburton, Exxon, ITT, Chevron, etc. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56599707 Croatia 04/09/2014 09:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Agreed, not the best form of debate. Fascism is inaccurate to describe nationalists. Maybe if they wanted to scrap the constitution and do away with elections it would be accurate, I don't think anyone has suggested that. So if you use the word fascist to describe them you are just repeating the Kremlin lies and denying legitimate Ukrainian rights to self determination. Putin and co. don't believe Ukraine is even a country. Truth is Russia is just an offshoot of Ukrainian-Byszantine culture which is far older. The Russians were raped by the kosher NKVD and have not recovered. They still think of Soviet times as the glory days. At least Ukrainians can admit the horrors of the 20th century. How would you describe forced resignations and silencing opposing views? Kiev is a fledgeling government, time will tell how they proceed to run the country. Unless they permanently postpone elections you can't call them fascist. Considering part of their country was just annexed as retaliation for kicking out a Kremlin stooge, you could say they are restrained. You don't know what real fascists are. Real fascist is anybody that self proclaimed antifascitst declare fascist |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56593867 Hong Kong 04/09/2014 09:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 I too am a nationalist and believe in the right of self determination of all peoples including Ukraine. How would you describe the right sector and their methods if not fascist? ultra-nationalist. If they wanted to change the constitution, have corporate elites run industry and government and end democratic processes, then they would be fascists. According to the "official founder" Mussolini, fascism is "the merger of the State and the Corporation". You don't need a dictator, black shirts, and all that folklore. Do you remember the Business Plot ? Nowadays, see : Goldman-Sachs, Monsanto, Halliburton, Exxon, ITT, Chevron, etc. The quote is from Giovanni Gentile |
Tpotleoz
User ID: 56532054 Australia 04/09/2014 09:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Agreed, not the best form of debate. Fascism is inaccurate to describe nationalists. Maybe if they wanted to scrap the constitution and do away with elections it would be accurate, I don't think anyone has suggested that. So if you use the word fascist to describe them you are just repeating the Kremlin lies and denying legitimate Ukrainian rights to self determination. Putin and co. don't believe Ukraine is even a country. Truth is Russia is just an offshoot of Ukrainian-Byszantine culture which is far older. The Russians were raped by the kosher NKVD and have not recovered. They still think of Soviet times as the glory days. At least Ukrainians can admit the horrors of the 20th century. How would you describe forced resignations and silencing opposing views? Kiev is a fledgeling government, time will tell how they proceed to run the country. You know that Ukraine Latvia and Lithuania banned russian TV stations from broadcasting in their countries? Now what kind of democracy is that? More like a reminder of soviet times...but this time the other way around. Its ok, they can stream it on the net if they are that addicted to RT. Unlike Russians who have a filtered internet. Eat the Reds |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56599180 United States 04/09/2014 09:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Dudes looting flat screen from Donetsk govt. bldg. or appearing to. [link to mobile.twitter.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 41210732 Canada 04/09/2014 10:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Russia’s multi-million support for Ukraine can’t continue endlessly Russia April 09, 17:40 UTC+4 NOVO-OGAREVO, April 09. /ITAR-TASS/. Russia continues to support the Ukrainian economy by providing multi-million US dollar subsidies, but this cannot go on forever, President Vladimir Putin said at a meeting with ministers on Wednesday, Aril 9. “The situation is undoubtedly strange, to put it mildly. As we know, our partners in Europe have recognised the legitimacy of the incumbent Kiev authorities but they are not doing anything to support Ukraine, not a single dollar or euro (has been given),” Putin said. “Russia does not recognise the legitimacy of the authorities in Kiev but continues to provide economic support and subsidise the Ukrainian economy.” The president stressed that “this situation cannot continue endlessly, of course, but I stress once again that we need to act very carefully in order not to destroy what little is left”. [link to en.itar-tass.com] |
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User ID: 54058774 United States 04/09/2014 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Putin thinks no one will do anything. He's just round the bend enough to have lost perspective on where the lines are actually drawn, and it's not actually clear whether he even cares anymore. No one thinks a "world leader" is an actual madman until the day you wake up and see tanks on your lawn. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56599180 |
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User ID: 22884594 United States 04/09/2014 10:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Interfax: LAVROV: IT IS SENSELESS TO CALL FOUR-PARTY MEETING TO DEMAND CONCESSIONS IN THE FORM OF CHEAP GAS FOR UKRAINE FROM MOSCOW LAVROV: RUSSIA HAS NOT RECEIVED U.S. ANSWERS RELATED TO REPORTS ABOUT KYIV'S PLANS OF SELLING VOYEVODA MISSILE TECHNOLOGIES OR PRESENCE OF GREYSTONE AGENCY STAFF MEMBERS IN UKRAINE RUSSIA READY TO JOIN FOUR-PARTY TALKS ON UKRAINE IF THEY AIM TO CALL ON KYIV AUTHORITIES TO CARE ABOUT UKRAINE - LAVROV LAVROV: RUSSIA LOOKS FORWARD TO U.S. EXPLANATIONS ABOUT PURPOSES OF CONVENING FOUR-SIDED MEETING ON UKRAINE |
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User ID: 22884594 United States 04/09/2014 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Michael Weiss‏@michaeldweiss·9 mins New satellite imagery shows extent of Russian military buildup at Ukrainian border: [link to www.interpretermag.com] … |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46863956 United States 04/09/2014 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Putin thinks no one will do anything. He\'s just round the bend enough to have lost perspective on where the lines are actually drawn, and it\'s not actually clear whether he even cares anymore. No one thinks a \"world leader\" is an actual madman until the day you wake up and see tanks on your lawn. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56599180 I did not know Ukraine is in USA. |
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User ID: 11619293 United States 04/09/2014 10:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 U.S intel spots signs of an all-out Russian invasion of Ukraine [link to www.thedailybeast.com] … |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33376107 United States 04/09/2014 10:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Putin thinks no one will do anything. He\'s just round the bend enough to have lost perspective on where the lines are actually drawn, and it\'s not actually clear whether he even cares anymore. No one thinks a \"world leader\" is an actual madman until the day you wake up and see tanks on your lawn. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56599180 I did not know Ukraine is in USA. Them are flying tanks. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56599707 Croatia 04/09/2014 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Putin thinks no one will do anything. He\'s just round the bend enough to have lost perspective on where the lines are actually drawn, and it\'s not actually clear whether he even cares anymore. No one thinks a \"world leader\" is an actual madman until the day you wake up and see tanks on your lawn. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56599180 I did not know Ukraine is in USA. Ukraine ain't but some sort of People's Democratic Republic will be soon |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56530675 United Kingdom 04/09/2014 10:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 2 min Quoting: Luisport NATO PREPARES "NEW AND ADDITIONAL" OPTIONS TO RESPOND TO RUSSIAN MILITARY MOVES NEAR UKRAINE, U.S DEF. SEC. HAGEL TELLS CNN Are they preparing to get real tough by moving towards "stern looks of disapproval"?? OK, OK, we take it all back... Ukraine, that is. And maybe some other former states. |
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User ID: 22884594 United States 04/09/2014 10:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 BREAKING: UKR Security Service uncovered the illegal RUS agents' network in #Ukraine that were preparing subversions [link to www.radiosvoboda.org] … |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39626624 United Kingdom 04/09/2014 10:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Agreed, not the best form of debate. Fascism is inaccurate to describe nationalists. Maybe if they wanted to scrap the constitution and do away with elections it would be accurate, I don't think anyone has suggested that. So if you use the word fascist to describe them you are just repeating the Kremlin lies and denying legitimate Ukrainian rights to self determination. Putin and co. don't believe Ukraine is even a country. Truth is Russia is just an offshoot of Ukrainian-Byszantine culture which is far older. The Russians were raped by the kosher NKVD and have not recovered. They still think of Soviet times as the glory days. At least Ukrainians can admit the horrors of the 20th century. I too am a nationalist and believe in the right of self determination of all peoples including Ukraine. How would you describe the right sector and their methods if not fascist? ultra-nationalist. If they wanted to change the constitution, have corporate elites run industry and government and end democratic processes, then they would be fascists. I would call them NWO subservient s, deluded sheep Ist's bah, Politics is BS and ALL the labels, we are either a free humanity ( which we are not) or slaves, Fu** Politics, F*** Nationalism..FU** Religion, we are DIVIDED and killing each other...for WHAT?? for them...what will it take?? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41210732 Canada 04/09/2014 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Euromaidan PR‏@EuromaidanPR·4 mins Quoting: Newshunter BREAKING: UKR Security Service uncovered the illegal RUS agents' network in #Ukraine that were preparing subversions [link to www.radiosvoboda.org] … The Group has established a home base and redeployment, the degree of alertness, strength, types and quantities of arms and military equipment units and the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Special attention was paid well equipped due to the worsening situation in the south-eastern borders of the state and defense lines disguised heavy military equipment. To obtain such information involved in the illegal cooperation citizens traveled to the vehicle in the area of the Kherson region, with granichaschihe Crimea, where he personally observed the changes in dislocation Ukrainian military units and movement of military equipment. The collected data are transmitted to the agents of the Russian spy in compliance with the conspiracy. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56599707 Croatia 04/09/2014 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Tpotleoz Agreed, not the best form of debate. Fascism is inaccurate to describe nationalists. Maybe if they wanted to scrap the constitution and do away with elections it would be accurate, I don't think anyone has suggested that. So if you use the word fascist to describe them you are just repeating the Kremlin lies and denying legitimate Ukrainian rights to self determination. Putin and co. don't believe Ukraine is even a country. Truth is Russia is just an offshoot of Ukrainian-Byszantine culture which is far older. The Russians were raped by the kosher NKVD and have not recovered. They still think of Soviet times as the glory days. At least Ukrainians can admit the horrors of the 20th century. I too am a nationalist and believe in the right of self determination of all peoples including Ukraine. How would you describe the right sector and their methods if not fascist? ultra-nationalist. If they wanted to change the constitution, have corporate elites run industry and government and end democratic processes, then they would be fascists. I would call them NWO subservient s, deluded sheep Ist's bah, Politics is BS and ALL the labels, we are either a free humanity ( which we are not) or slaves, Fu** Politics, F*** Nationalism..FU** Religion, we are DIVIDED and killing each other...for WHAT?? for them...what will it take?? Yep, we should all be united in the empire on which sun never sets. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56593867 Hong Kong 04/09/2014 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 THE COUNCIL OF SEVEN TO MEET ON GLOBAL ECONOMY, UKRAINE ON THURSDAY IN WASHINGTON [link to twitter.com (secure)] |