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Anonymous Coward User ID: 54642045 United States 02/20/2014 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Maxim Eristavi@MaximEristavi·27 secs Quoting: < DL > Official death toll in Kyiv bloodshed is still rising: it's 75 now CNN was saying 100+ a few hours ago-----FOX was saying 70ish. The stats are swing back and forth. Can we get some true stats please? Just asking. 75 or 100, how is that even important? Every life taken by dumb stupid violence is one too many. totally true, but media uses it for propaganda. Life is worth nothing anymore these days, really sad. My condolences to you in Ukraine You beat me to the punch. Thanks. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38006835 Slovenia 02/20/2014 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54594028 Question now is who will gain power. Pro EU or nazis. Your right, its not over. Wtf did I just read. Being a nationalist does not make you a nazi. Trying to control all of Europe is what makes you a nazi. My bad. I know that BUT Svoboda are far right wing. They indentify with nazi symbols. Oh I see. A lot of times (most the time) these nazi groups are created by government to keep people from feeling nationalistic when the leaders are selling the country out. If a normal person says hey you are hurting the people they turn around and say oh you are a racist. It's tough, you just have to know what you believe and not be shaken by other people and their side shows. Whats happenin in eastern Europe considering nationalists movement is completly spontaneous. Its got nothin to do with governments. Maybe in Russia but people here are in general more nationalistic. And right political spectrum. Maybe this is result of 60 year communist rule but people just dont trust left. You can go in any east country and its the same. Slovenia is exception but thank god we dont matter. Nazi movement here are very strong and they recruit on football terraces. We are talking about hundreds of thousands of "soldiers". |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54502437 United Kingdom 02/20/2014 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 I am ashamed to be human. So vile. Fucking disgraceful behaviour from snipers and politicos. Its a sick fucking game is life. Oh buy the way the UK won a bronze in curling. FFs. |
waterlily
User ID: 51323695 United States 02/20/2014 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Prayer for peace. A mass, maybe? *********** WaterLily *********** " Do I dare Disturb the universe?" -- T. S. Elliot, Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock ************************************* “We are as ignorant of the meaning of the dragon as we are of the meaning of the universe.” -- Jorge Luis Borges ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Pompey made his preparations for the war at the end of the winter, entered upon it at the commencement of spring, and finished it in the middle of the summer." -- Cicero, De Imperio Cn. Pompei |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 54640200 Egypt 02/20/2014 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 IF youre an American, you have your own problems youre not attending to. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20912 You should have as much integrity as those you condemn. True Anyone in US or western countries - will you join those who do the same in your countries when the time comes? Perhaps that's the whole idea of the NSA spying and figuring out who are the "domestic terrorists". When they try to usurp your Government and burn Government HQ and storm Military Bases and seize weapons and ammunition will you join them or oppose them? That's the question. Some might think you're actually fighting against your corrupt Government - not realizing how mislead you are. I bet more than half who cheer the Ukrainians or cheered Libya, Syria, Egypt etc in the past, and all those rebels, they would not do that. Instead they would actually hide in their homes, post on GLP and wait for their Military to protect their homes and families. for next page...think about it |
waterlily
User ID: 51323695 United States 02/20/2014 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Øystein Bogen ‏@oysteinbogen 1m Quoting: Threelittlelambs Lull before the storm or beaten back to the barracks? #Kiev eerily devoid of police, according to #Euromaidan activists manning roadblock. It is over, time to party. I wonder how long it will be till somebody knocks on Yanos front door at his exclusive mansion. Ukraine is bankrupt, Russia will not give any money, nor EU and the Russian gas will stop flowing in. Ukraine is fucked, time to party! China is giving them money for land. I posted this earlier on another thread. China 'to rent five per cent of Ukraine' The Telegraph Ukraine has agreed a deal with a Chinese firm to lease five per cent of its land to feed China's burgeoning and increasingly demanding population, it has been reported. It would be the biggest so called "land grab" agreement, where one country leases or sells land to another, in a trend that has been compared to the 19th century "scramble for Africa", but which could now spread to the vast and fertile plains of eastern Europe. Under the 50-year plan, China would eventually control three million hectares, an area equivalent to Belgium or Massachusetts, which represents nine per cent of Ukraine's arable land. Initially 100,000 hectares would be leased. [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] Ukraine gets $8bn investment from China RT.com December 05, 2013 13:44 Ukrainian President Yanukovych left Kiev in search of foreign cash for his country's near bankrupt economy, and now he says he's secured $8 billion in investment from China. The money has made a timely arrival in cash-strapped Ukraine’s hands, as the economy teeters on default and faces debts over $15 billion. Yanukovych is on a three-day planned working trip to China. "The documents signed today expand our economic cooperation. We have not yet calculated how much this will make up in terms of money, but we made some calculations earlier and saw that the matter is about some $8 billion in investments coming to the Ukrainian economy," Yanukovych said after signing a number of bilateral documents in Beijing on Thursday, quoted by Interfax. [link to rt.com] *********** WaterLily *********** " Do I dare Disturb the universe?" -- T. S. Elliot, Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock ************************************* “We are as ignorant of the meaning of the dragon as we are of the meaning of the universe.” -- Jorge Luis Borges ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Pompey made his preparations for the war at the end of the winter, entered upon it at the commencement of spring, and finished it in the middle of the summer." -- Cicero, De Imperio Cn. Pompei |
Unit 88
User ID: 18308887 United Kingdom 02/20/2014 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Øystein Bogen ‏@oysteinbogen 1m Quoting: Threelittlelambs Lull before the storm or beaten back to the barracks? #Kiev eerily devoid of police, according to #Euromaidan activists manning roadblock. It is over, time to party. I wonder how long it will be till somebody knocks on Yanos front door at his exclusive mansion. Ukraine is bankrupt, Russia will not give any money, nor EU and the Russian gas will stop flowing in. Ukraine is fucked, time to party! China is giving them money for land. I posted this earlier on another thread. China 'to rent five per cent of Ukraine' The Telegraph Ukraine has agreed a deal with a Chinese firm to lease five per cent of its land to feed China's burgeoning and increasingly demanding population, it has been reported. It would be the biggest so called "land grab" agreement, where one country leases or sells land to another, in a trend that has been compared to the 19th century "scramble for Africa", but which could now spread to the vast and fertile plains of eastern Europe. Under the 50-year plan, China would eventually control three million hectares, an area equivalent to Belgium or Massachusetts, which represents nine per cent of Ukraine's arable land. Initially 100,000 hectares would be leased. [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] Ukraine gets $8bn investment from China RT.com December 05, 2013 13:44 Ukrainian President Yanukovych left Kiev in search of foreign cash for his country's near bankrupt economy, and now he says he's secured $8 billion in investment from China. The money has made a timely arrival in cash-strapped Ukraine’s hands, as the economy teeters on default and faces debts over $15 billion. Yanukovych is on a three-day planned working trip to China. "The documents signed today expand our economic cooperation. We have not yet calculated how much this will make up in terms of money, but we made some calculations earlier and saw that the matter is about some $8 billion in investments coming to the Ukrainian economy," Yanukovych said after signing a number of bilateral documents in Beijing on Thursday, quoted by Interfax. [link to rt.com] China will war for Ukraine. |
Kent User ID: 54313590 Norway 02/20/2014 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 IF youre an American, you have your own problems youre not attending to. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20912 You should have as much integrity as those you condemn. True Anyone in US or western countries - will you join those who do the same in your countries when the time comes? Perhaps that's the whole idea of the NSA spying and figuring out who are the "domestic terrorists". When they try to usurp your Government and burn Government HQ and storm Military Bases and seize weapons and ammunition will you join them or oppose them? That's the question. Some might think you're actually fighting against your corrupt Government - not realizing how mislead you are. I bet more than half who cheer the Ukrainians or cheered Libya, Syria, Egypt etc in the past, and all those rebels, they would not do that. Instead they would actually hide in their homes, post on GLP and wait for their Military to protect their homes and families. for next page...think about it Bump! You are quite right of course. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 54640550 Romania 02/20/2014 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Fears over Ukraine exacerbated a sharp fall in Russia’s rouble. Tim Ash, economist at Standard Bank, said the biggest impact on Ukraine’s neighbours would be on Russia, with Moscow standing to lose up to $30bn in debts owed to the government or to state-owned banks. With half of Russian gas exports transiting Ukraine, a breakdown in law and order “could be a serious blow”, he said, while perceptions of Russia meddling in Ukraine would not help its existing “image problem amongst investors”. However, more serious than the direct effect of instability on Ukraine’s neighbours could be the financial effects, if a default by Kiev forced investors to reduce their exposure to other emerging markets. [link to www.ft.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54640550 Romania 02/20/2014 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Russia faces the choice of large losses from a default or the ever rising costs of propping up Ukraine's economy “This has suddenly gone from a domestic Ukrainian story into a geopolitical clash,” said Lars Christensen, from Danske Bank. The Russian ruble has fallen to a record low against the euro, with contagion reaching Poland, Hungary and Romania in recent days. “The moves in Russia are very like the events during the war in Georgia in 2008. Markets are pricing in the risk of Russian intervention,” he said. Any deployment of Russian troops to stiffen the Ukrainian governmment - even if invited by President Viktor Yanukovich - could spiral out of control, leading to an East-West stand-off not seen since the Cold War. [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] The party is not over, it's just starting folks! |
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BloodyT3CH
User ID: 2148885 Lithuania 02/20/2014 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Does it matter where socchi is at this point? Last Edited by BloodyT3CH on 02/20/2014 04:51 PM Religion is the biggest joke i've ever seen - ME |
Chippey
User ID: 54622593 Ukraine 02/20/2014 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Russia faces the choice of large losses from a default or the ever rising costs of propping up Ukraine's economy Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54640550 “This has suddenly gone from a domestic Ukrainian story into a geopolitical clash,” said Lars Christensen, from Danske Bank. The Russian ruble has fallen to a record low against the euro, with contagion reaching Poland, Hungary and Romania in recent days. “The moves in Russia are very like the events during the war in Georgia in 2008. Markets are pricing in the risk of Russian intervention,” he said. Any deployment of Russian troops to stiffen the Ukrainian governmment - even if invited by President Viktor Yanukovich - could spiral out of control, leading to an East-West stand-off not seen since the Cold War. [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] The party is not over, it's just starting folks! You must all remember that Ukraine Armed Forces did not support the President. The Militia were at times reluctant to block protesters. Nobody had much love for this president. Not even Putin liked him. It was the presidents thugs that provoked the peacfull protestors who did not become violent untill some were shot dead by Gvt snipers. they were unarmed men and women. |
Dangerwalt
User ID: 53949540 Brazil 02/20/2014 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 [link to www.radiosvoboda.org] Just one any.... The first symptom of stupidity is to think that we already know everything... :hollowichigo: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 49251052 Netherlands 02/20/2014 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 I think at some point due to numerous reasons, many strategic and economical, they'll be forced to intervene. Ukraine is just too important to Russia. I dont think they can even stomach the idea of a western aligned country sitting right on their doorstep. They have warned about the expansion eastward by the EU. This tug of war is going to last for quite a while. I just think Russia just has a little more guts to go that extra mile. If this unleashes another cold war i really think they couldn't care less. What would they do? Sanction them? It can start with the Crimea claiming independence. They've been edging closer to that decision for a while. Many have been openly calling for annexation by Russia. That could easily lead to another South-ossetia like conflict. This peninsula is one of those reasons Russia wont let go of Ukraine that easily. [link to www.rferl.org] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 36610806 Finland 02/20/2014 05:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 All the authorities have to do is put some powdered anthrax in the tear gas. Nobody will know this has happened until 3 days later when people get severely ill. Then, no one will know who did it. If they don't want to go that far, they can put other less lethal bacteria in the water that they are spraying the fires with. A cholera outbreak among the protesters would seem natural. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45481459 Maybe too much revolution for you mate. |
Chippey
User ID: 54622593 Ukraine 02/20/2014 05:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 I think at some point due to numerous reasons, many strategic and economical, they'll be forced to intervene. Ukraine is just too important to Russia. I dont think they can even stomach the idea of a western aligned country sitting right on their doorstep. They have warned about the expansion eastward by the EU. This tug of war is going to last for quite a while. I just think Russia just has a little more guts to go that extra mile. If this unleashes another cold war i really think they couldn't care less. What would they do? Sanction them? It can start with the Crimea claiming independence. They've been edging closer to that decision for a while. Many have been openly calling for annexation by Russia. That could easily lead to another South-ossetia like conflict. This peninsula is one of those reasons Russia wont let go of Ukraine that easily. [link to www.rferl.org] If Crimea came back under Russian control they wouldnt have to pay the rent for keeping the Black Sea fleet in Crimea. The Russians booted the native Tartars out and seized the country long ago. Nikita Krushchev signed Crimea over to Ukraine.Maybe he forgot about the (Soviet)Russian base there but wasnt he born in Ukraine? |
rachel3108
User ID: 15252894 United States 02/20/2014 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Russia faces the choice of large losses from a default or the ever rising costs of propping up Ukraine's economy Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54640550 “This has suddenly gone from a domestic Ukrainian story into a geopolitical clash,” said Lars Christensen, from Danske Bank. The Russian ruble has fallen to a record low against the euro, with contagion reaching Poland, Hungary and Romania in recent days. “The moves in Russia are very like the events during the war in Georgia in 2008. Markets are pricing in the risk of Russian intervention,” he said. Any deployment of Russian troops to stiffen the Ukrainian governmment - even if invited by President Viktor Yanukovich - could spiral out of control, leading to an East-West stand-off not seen since the Cold War. [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] The party is not over, it's just starting folks! You must all remember that Ukraine Armed Forces did not support the President. The Militia were at times reluctant to block protesters. Nobody had much love for this president. Not even Putin liked him. It was the presidents thugs that provoked the peacfull protestors who did not become violent untill some were shot dead by Gvt snipers. they were unarmed men and women. Please keep updating us, thanks |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54595906 France 02/20/2014 05:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Yeah like Russia needs more food omfg. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43522607 Pipelines are not resources, oh and btw Russia has more than enough other pipelines to keep on supplying its buyers (nord-stream, south-stream, china pipeline...) Wiki: "Significant natural resources in Ukraine include: iron ore, coal, manganese, natural gas, oil, salt, sulfur, graphite, titanium, magnesium, kaolin, nickel, mercury, timber, and arable land". "Ukraine has extremely rich and complementary mineral resources in high concentrations and close proximity to each other. ... " [link to www.britannica.com] Thats why I'm saying they could be completly indepented. They are big enough and have resources to rule that region, not to be vassals to east or west. They know that and they've been dealing with this question ever since independence. Maybe not enough self-esteem nation wide. Maybe they are to used to rule by others. I dont know but they should make that mental leap and just thrive. You are right. They can try it. To be independent. You realize this is why neither Russia or eu wants them independent, in the center of the continent. They would be more powerful than either of them. East and west would both prefer a Balkanized Ukraine I'm sure. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 54646230 Egypt 02/20/2014 05:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 IF youre an American, you have your own problems youre not attending to. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20912 You should have as much integrity as those you condemn. True Anyone in US or western countries - will you join those who do the same in your countries when the time comes? Perhaps that's the whole idea of the NSA spying and figuring out who are the "domestic terrorists". When they try to usurp your Government and burn Government HQ and storm Military Bases and seize weapons and ammunition will you join them or oppose them? That's the question. Some might think you're actually fighting against your corrupt Government - not realizing how mislead you are. I bet more than half who cheer the Ukrainians or cheered Libya, Syria, Egypt etc in the past, and all those rebels, they would not do that. Instead they would actually hide in their homes, post on GLP and wait for their Military to protect their homes and families. for next page...think about it Bump! You are quite right of course. |
Star Fhisp
User ID: 54645894 Indonesia 02/20/2014 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Long live the free Ukrainian army Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45082089 Long live Europe and the US of A Long live Bernard Henry Levy Long live free Syria Long live free Russia (without Putin the dictator) Long live Obama and Hollande, heroes of the free world A new world order is finally en marche, thank you USA "So you mean to say they've taken what we thought we think and make us think we thought our thoughts we've been thinking our thoughts we think we thought?" |