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New Greek nationalist defense minister prompts Turkey to scramble jets

Greece's new nationalist defense minister prompted Greece's perennial rival Turkey to scramble jets on Friday, just days after he took office, by flying over uninhabited islets off the Turkish coast that nearly triggered a war in 1996.

Turkish fighter jets entered Greek airspace and were intercepted by Greek jets as Defense Minister Panos Kammenos and military chiefs flew by helicopter to the islet of Imia to drop wreaths in memory of three Greek officers killed nearby in a helicopter crash 19 years ago, the Greek Defense Ministry said.

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Note the wording.
Turkish jets entered Greek airspace, but it was the Greek minister's fault???

I think you are going to start seeing a LOT of anti-Greek propaganda in the next few weeks. The troika isn't happy.
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Yes, I am sure about that, especially after this: Thread: Greece's government will not cooperate with the EU and IMF
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Donetsk People's Republic Has ‘Full Support of Texas’, Says Pro-Russian Rebel
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I like Texas lol
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Texas is an american communist volunteer serving in the International Brigade "Vostok".

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It´s a communist tradition of international solidarity to help brothers in their struggle against fascist regimes.
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to fight isis perhaps?

to find the charlie hebo killers?
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Donetsk under shelling of Kiev forces once again, consequences:


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Donetsk People's Republic Has ‘Full Support of Texas’, Says Pro-Russian Rebel
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I like Texas lol
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Texas is an american communist volunteer serving in the International Brigade "Vostok".

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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

It´s a communist tradition of international solidarity to help brothers in their struggle against fascist regimes.
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From the article:

The self-proclaimed foreign minister for the pro-Russian separatist group the Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR), which is currently battling Kiev’s forces in eastern Ukraine, has announced plans to host a “summit of unrecognized states” such as Flanders, the Basque country and Texas in a video initially broadcast on the local pro-separatist channel Oplot TV earlier this week.

The DNR representative, Alexander Koffman, said he plans to host the summit in either February or March, inviting representatives from regions with separatist leanings around Europe such as Spain's Basque region, Belgium's Flanders region, Italy’s Venetian region and even the American state of Texas hoping to create a “League of New States”.
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New Greek nationalist defense minister prompts Turkey to scramble jets

Greece's new nationalist defense minister prompted Greece's perennial rival Turkey to scramble jets on Friday, just days after he took office, by flying over uninhabited islets off the Turkish coast that nearly triggered a war in 1996.

Turkish fighter jets entered Greek airspace and were intercepted by Greek jets as Defense Minister Panos Kammenos and military chiefs flew by helicopter to the islet of Imia to drop wreaths in memory of three Greek officers killed nearby in a helicopter crash 19 years ago, the Greek Defense Ministry said.

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Note the wording.
Turkish jets entered Greek airspace, but it was the Greek minister's fault???

I think you are going to start seeing a LOT of anti-Greek propaganda in the next few weeks. The troika isn't happy.
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Turkish jets keep violating Greek airspace in last months. And Greeks put nationalist for defense minister. Great mix.
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Get real son, that is the essential flaw of the communist marxist planned economy, there will always be a deficiency, and this crisis was man-made and engineered by Stalin to eradicate the rise of Ukrainian nationalism.
There are no natural causes why people should starve on a fertile land. How on earth do you have the gall to blame the farmers for this? This was a real genocide, unlike the Holocaust. That's why this is oppressed as much as possible.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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You deny Holocaust - it never happened according to 'your history book' pick

Like Wikipedia much?

OK - Alexander Solzhenitsyn, laureate of the Nobel Prize in Literature and Soviet-Russian historian, opined in Izvestia that Holodomor was no different from the Russian famine of 1921 as both were caused by the ruthless robbery of peasants by Bolshevik grain procurements. According to him the lie of the Holodomor being genocide was invented decades later after the event and the Ukrainian effort to have the famine recognised as genocide is an act of historical revisionism that has now surpassed the level of Bolshevik agitprop. The writer cautions that the genocidal claim has its chances to be accepted by the West due to the general Western ignorance of Russian and Ukrainian history.

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I already explained that the Holocaust was a hoax
The holocaust was a Hoax, yes, concentration camps existed, but first of all the numbers are greatly exaggerated, and also the perpetrators are not those who you think.
9/11 also happened, but it was a hoax, I am not claiming these things didn't happen.
Also a lot worse genocides happened during that time period - The holodomor and the gulags, the fact that Holodomor and gulags are greatly played down is definitive proof that history is fabricated.

The Nazis were controlled opposition, created and destroyed from the ground up by the same Zionists who controlled and financed every other faction during WW2.
WW2 was fabricated, and it could not have been possible without the Nazi boogieman.
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 Quoting: Blueyez:

You explained shit!

I'll tell you the truth - concentration camps were nothing else but SPA centers for ill people from Europe, including; Gypsy, Jews, Serbians, Croats, Slovenians, Macedonians, Polish, ...

Those who couldn't be healed ended up burned, hanged,... well all was very human, no worries

One of the coolest SPA camp was also made by old Croats, those were mostly doctors and healers, very close Hitler's friends. Very very dear people.
So you see, history is so lovely, it all depends how you interpret s226





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I explained who are the perpetrators - the same Zionists who controlled all sides, the Nazis were Zionist creations made to establish their agendas.

Who do you really think the Nazis were? Do you think they got power simply because they were "ruthless and evil without purpose"? If you believe that, then I got a bridge to sell you.

And the Soviet Union (or any other apparently communist state) wasn't "really" communist, in the essential meaning of the word. Only the lower class (99,9% of the people) were equal - they were all equally poor. All the profits went to the party members who controlled and oppressed the people. Basically, they were slaves. However even the controllers realized that the communist economic model is not effective. The controllers want their slaves to produce even more, and the only way to reach that is to give them incentive in the form of profits, in the communist model there was no incentive for people to really be hard working or progressive.

Communism, even in theory is a failed economic model where progression is impossible.
In reality it has never really existed, the controllers will always take everything for themselves and oppress the people.

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Donetsk People's Republic Has ‘Full Support of Texas’, Says Pro-Russian Rebel
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I like Texas lol
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Texas is an american communist volunteer serving in the International Brigade "Vostok".

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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

It´s a communist tradition of international solidarity to help brothers in their struggle against fascist regimes.
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..derp
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Suddenly again? lol
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So uh... What were the past eleven? ...
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STRASBOURG, January 30 /TASS/. The speaker of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe, Anne Brasseur, has asked Ukrainian pilot Nadezhda Savchenko who has been on hunger strike in a Moscow prison from mid-December to go off strike because she was needed and wanted at PACE

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I'd say ... they ask for it ... so they shouldn't whine when they get what they deserve.
The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).
No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it:
Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms.
It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people.
That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
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So, yes on both questions.
It is even understandable, because the balts really had to suffer during soviet-times. On the other hand in the Ukraine there were no problems like that, so it is a bit different. Ukraine nationalism did not exist until the US techcamp-specialists planted this in the minds of the people. I don´t mean the Bandera-cult which is another story, but the flag-waving "pray-for-ukraine" one.
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Nationalism does exist in the Ukraine, and the Ukrainians have probably suffered more than anybody, Holodomor rings any bells??
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Holodomor is a controversial thing.
You can also interprete it that the greedy ukie farmers did not want to share the fruits of soviet-land.
Without the confiscating of stolen food the whole soviet-union would have starved to death, because the ukraine happens to be the bread-basket of the motherland.
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Get real son, that is the essential flaw of the communist marxist planned economy, there will always be a deficiency, and this crisis was man-made and engineered by Stalin to eradicate the rise of Ukrainian nationalism.
There are no natural causes why people should starve on a fertile land. How on earth do you have the gall to blame the farmers for this? This was a real genocide, unlike the Holocaust. That's why this is oppressed as much as possible.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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like I said earlier, communism and nazism are almost the same. They are STATE run statist systems. The same group in Rome was behind the rise of both Hitler and Stalin.

What gives you the impression that STATE run farming under nazism would be any more productive under nazism than communism?

[link to constitutionalistnc.tripod.com]

Kangas Myth: "Many conservatives accuse Hitler of being a leftist, on the grounds that his party was named "National Socialist." But socialism requires worker ownership and control of the means of production."

Reality: Websters Dictionary defines so·cial·ism as: "any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods."

Webster's Dictionary also defines national socialism or Na·zi·ism as: "the body of political and economic doctrines held and put into effect by the National Socialist German Workers' party in the Third German Reich including the totalitarian principle of government, state control of all industry, predominance of groups assumed to be racially superior, and supremacy of the fuhrer."

Simple definitions of Socialism and National Socialism prove that Kangas' faulty, subjective defining of Socialism doesnt refute Hitler being leftist.


Monsanto is practically a STATE run corp. that would have made Hitler proud, and they are prominently involved in Ukraine right now. What does that tell you?
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Donetsk People's Republic Has ‘Full Support of Texas’, Says Pro-Russian Rebel
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I like Texas lol
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Texas is an american communist volunteer serving in the International Brigade "Vostok".

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

It´s a communist tradition of international solidarity to help brothers in their struggle against fascist regimes.
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From the article:

The self-proclaimed foreign minister for the pro-Russian separatist group the Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR), which is currently battling Kiev’s forces in eastern Ukraine, has announced plans to host a “summit of unrecognized states” such as Flanders, the Basque country and Texas in a video initially broadcast on the local pro-separatist channel Oplot TV earlier this week.

The DNR representative, Alexander Koffman, said he plans to host the summit in either February or March, inviting representatives from regions with separatist leanings around Europe such as Spain's Basque region, Belgium's Flanders region, Italy’s Venetian region and even the American state of Texas hoping to create a “League of New States”.
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the league of new soviet socialist states?

LOL!
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I know this is like 20 pages ago, I'm still catching up But thanks for posting the subs! hf

Zakharchenko gives good speeches
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I know this is like 20 pages ago, I'm still catching up But thanks for posting the subs! hf

Zakharchenko gives good speeches
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Yes, he's a real leader.
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@RT_com: Russia might bailout Greece – finance minister [link to rt.com]
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Not a surprise at all. One nazist is meeting the other
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That's a proof of bias, not good judgment.
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You are hilarious kid, as if you Putinbots here are unbiased? lolatu

And no, actually it is only proof of the nature of the Soviet fascists, the people who control Russia.

I wonder what you assume I am biased about? If you mean biased against Russian aggression towards the Ukraine, then yes I am guilty.
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1. Don't call me "kid", punk. Same goes with "Putinbot".
2. You are biased towards Russians at large. The current situation is just an excuse for you to exercise your hatred.
3. If you had some bad personal encounters with Russians, it may have helped you to develop your nationalism to compensate.
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I am not biased towards Russians at large, I have explained this many times before, I consider intelligent Russians who have not been brainwashed by the state and can think with their own brains my white brethren, it is deeply saddening to me that 90% of Russians are lobotomized Soviets. Their national identity has been destroyed and lost in history.
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You think nazis aren't brainwashed by the state you dumbass?
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I know this is like 20 pages ago, I'm still catching up But thanks for posting the subs! hf

Zakharchenko gives good speeches
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Reportedly ( [link to kagemushanatako.livejournal.com] ) this interview was shown on 1st German federal TV channel. After that - inteview of Pushilin from Minsk ("Kievan side did not come") and no mention of Russia.
Something is changing...
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Merkel and Poroshenko to meet in Munich on February 6-8

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Not a surprise at all. One nazist is meeting the other
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Nationalism does exist in the Ukraine, and the Ukrainians have probably suffered more than anybody, Holodomor rings any bells??
 Quoting: Blueyez:


Holodomor is a controversial thing.
You can also interprete it that the greedy ukie farmers did not want to share the fruits of soviet-land.
Without the confiscating of stolen food the whole soviet-union would have starved to death, because the ukraine happens to be the bread-basket of the motherland.
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Get real son, that is the essential flaw of the communist marxist planned economy, there will always be a deficiency, and this crisis was man-made and engineered by Stalin to eradicate the rise of Ukrainian nationalism.
There are no natural causes why people should starve on a fertile land. How on earth do you have the gall to blame the farmers for this? This was a real genocide, unlike the Holocaust. That's why this is oppressed as much as possible.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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like I said earlier, communism and nazism are almost the same. They are STATE run statist systems. The same group in Rome was behind the rise of both Hitler and Stalin.

What gives you the impression that STATE run farming under nazism would be any more productive under nazism than communism?

[link to constitutionalistnc.tripod.com]

Kangas Myth: "Many conservatives accuse Hitler of being a leftist, on the grounds that his party was named "National Socialist." But socialism requires worker ownership and control of the means of production."

Reality: Websters Dictionary defines so·cial·ism as: "any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods."

Webster's Dictionary also defines national socialism or Na·zi·ism as: "the body of political and economic doctrines held and put into effect by the National Socialist German Workers' party in the Third German Reich including the totalitarian principle of government, state control of all industry, predominance of groups assumed to be racially superior, and supremacy of the fuhrer."

Simple definitions of Socialism and National Socialism prove that Kangas' faulty, subjective defining of Socialism doesnt refute Hitler being leftist.


Monsanto is practically a STATE run corp. that would have made Hitler proud, and they are prominently involved in Ukraine right now. What does that tell you?
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Whatever you say Goebbels.lmao
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What you are talking about is completely irrelevant, however the same powers that ruled the Soviet union still rule Russia to this day, so that is still relevant.
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Nationalism does exist in the Ukraine, and the Ukrainians have probably suffered more than anybody, Holodomor rings any bells??
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Holodomor is a controversial thing.
You can also interprete it that the greedy ukie farmers did not want to share the fruits of soviet-land.
Without the confiscating of stolen food the whole soviet-union would have starved to death, because the ukraine happens to be the bread-basket of the motherland.
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Get real son, that is the essential flaw of the communist marxist planned economy, there will always be a deficiency, and this crisis was man-made and engineered by Stalin to eradicate the rise of Ukrainian nationalism.
There are no natural causes why people should starve on a fertile land. How on earth do you have the gall to blame the farmers for this? This was a real genocide, unlike the Holocaust. That's why this is oppressed as much as possible.
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like I said earlier, communism and nazism are almost the same. They are STATE run statist systems. The same group in Rome was behind the rise of both Hitler and Stalin.

What gives you the impression that STATE run farming under nazism would be any more productive under nazism than communism?

[link to constitutionalistnc.tripod.com]

Kangas Myth: "Many conservatives accuse Hitler of being a leftist, on the grounds that his party was named "National Socialist." But socialism requires worker ownership and control of the means of production."

Reality: Websters Dictionary defines so·cial·ism as: "any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods."

Webster's Dictionary also defines national socialism or Na·zi·ism as: "the body of political and economic doctrines held and put into effect by the National Socialist German Workers' party in the Third German Reich including the totalitarian principle of government, state control of all industry, predominance of groups assumed to be racially superior, and supremacy of the fuhrer."

Simple definitions of Socialism and National Socialism prove that Kangas' faulty, subjective defining of Socialism doesnt refute Hitler being leftist.


Monsanto is practically a STATE run corp. that would have made Hitler proud, and they are prominently involved in Ukraine right now. What does that tell you?
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What gives you the impression that I am under the impression that Nazism would have been any more productive than communism? Let me tell you what - you never actually read my posts and think I am a Nazi, even tho I basically said the same things which you said in that post.

And I have explained multiple times that my only allegiance is to Ukrainian Nationalists - meaning the average people in the Ukraine who want their country to be free and independent, and they do not have to tolerate this Russian aggression.
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Nationalism does exist in the Ukraine, and the Ukrainians have probably suffered more than anybody, Holodomor rings any bells??
 Quoting: Blueyez:


Holodomor is a controversial thing.
You can also interprete it that the greedy ukie farmers did not want to share the fruits of soviet-land.
Without the confiscating of stolen food the whole soviet-union would have starved to death, because the ukraine happens to be the bread-basket of the motherland.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67526411


Get real son, that is the essential flaw of the communist marxist planned economy, there will always be a deficiency, and this crisis was man-made and engineered by Stalin to eradicate the rise of Ukrainian nationalism.
There are no natural causes why people should starve on a fertile land. How on earth do you have the gall to blame the farmers for this? This was a real genocide, unlike the Holocaust. That's why this is oppressed as much as possible.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Blueyez:


like I said earlier, communism and nazism are almost the same. They are STATE run statist systems. The same group in Rome was behind the rise of both Hitler and Stalin.

What gives you the impression that STATE run farming under nazism would be any more productive under nazism than communism?

[link to constitutionalistnc.tripod.com]

Kangas Myth: "Many conservatives accuse Hitler of being a leftist, on the grounds that his party was named "National Socialist." But socialism requires worker ownership and control of the means of production."

Reality: Websters Dictionary defines so·cial·ism as: "any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods."

Webster's Dictionary also defines national socialism or Na·zi·ism as: "the body of political and economic doctrines held and put into effect by the National Socialist German Workers' party in the Third German Reich including the totalitarian principle of government, state control of all industry, predominance of groups assumed to be racially superior, and supremacy of the fuhrer."

Simple definitions of Socialism and National Socialism prove that Kangas' faulty, subjective defining of Socialism doesnt refute Hitler being leftist.


Monsanto is practically a STATE run corp. that would have made Hitler proud, and they are prominently involved in Ukraine right now. What does that tell you?
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


hitler infuriated actual socialists within the original movement. first by double crossing the nazis in northern germany and berlin then later the nazis in bavaria and munich.

hitler was a creation of general ludendorf and the german general staff. after prison, hitler spent most of his time hobnobbing with the titled german elites, industrialists and CATHOLICS!

hitler was backed by those elite groups precisely because of his committment to betray the lower class german workers, farmers and soldiers he claimed to represent.

in fact, hitler easily cowed hinderberg's son by threatening to reveal the thousands of marks the "old gentleman" had unlawfully pocketed as a result of the state bailouts of the junker estates in prussia... he let the aristocrats and elites rob germany
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1. Don't call me "kid", punk. Same goes with "Putinbot".
2. You are biased towards Russians at large. The current situation is just an excuse for you to exercise your hatred.
3. If you had some bad personal encounters with Russians, it may have helped you to develop your nationalism to compensate.
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I am not biased towards Russians at large, I have explained this many times before, I consider intelligent Russians who have not been brainwashed by the state and can think with their own brains my white brethren, it is deeply saddening to me that 90% of Russians are lobotomized Soviets. Their national identity has been destroyed and lost in history.
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So you respect only the ones who despise the state they live in?

And what about that "white brethren" element? Didn't get that.
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No, I despise the Soviet fascist sympathizers, and anyone going along with hate-propaganda by the Kremlin. The problem is, that is at least 80% of the Russian population.

And Russians are white people, and in my view all white people have to stick together in this changing world where we are now a tiny minority of the world population and constantly targeted by TPTB.
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then why do you agree with the Kiev leadership that ethnic Russians are subhuman, and how exactly is nazism not fascist?

is dissent tolerated there?

no it isn't.
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Zakharchenko in Uglegorsk. eng sub



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I know this is like 20 pages ago, I'm still catching up But thanks for posting the subs! hf

Zakharchenko gives good speeches
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cheers
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You are hilarious kid, as if you Putinbots here are unbiased? lolatu

And no, actually it is only proof of the nature of the Soviet fascists, the people who control Russia.

I wonder what you assume I am biased about? If you mean biased against Russian aggression towards the Ukraine, then yes I am guilty.
 Quoting: Blueyez:


1. Don't call me "kid", punk. Same goes with "Putinbot".
2. You are biased towards Russians at large. The current situation is just an excuse for you to exercise your hatred.
3. If you had some bad personal encounters with Russians, it may have helped you to develop your nationalism to compensate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31104916


I am not biased towards Russians at large, I have explained this many times before, I consider intelligent Russians who have not been brainwashed by the state and can think with their own brains my white brethren, it is deeply saddening to me that 90% of Russians are lobotomized Soviets. Their national identity has been destroyed and lost in history.
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You think nazis aren't brainwashed by the state you dumbass?
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Notice fine logic of our unbiased Estonian "friend". He's "not biased towards Russians at large", but "90% of Russians are lobotomized Soviets". Apparently he doesn't recognize citizens of Russia who support Russian government as Russians. I bet, he also doesn't recognize Estonians who are dissatisfied with their government as true Estonians. If that's not a bias...

Well, I have an answer on that. By Kadyrov actually:
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"I'm Russian man of Chechen origin."
That's the difference between retarded preudo-nationalizm and classical imperialism. Nothing common with colonialism BTW.
"When every one is dead the Great Game is finished. Not before." - Rudyard Kipling, "Kim" (1901)
"But we are still alive." - Thread: "The Great Game" by Mikhail Leontyev (2007-2008)

"Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination." - Brandon Sanderson, "The Way of Kings"
"Russia is the great Christian country with rich Islamic history" - Vladimir Solovyov (Russian Jew)
Quos Iupiter perdere vult, dementat.
"Europe can wait while the Russian tsar fishes." - Alexander III The Peacemaker

Thread: I'm Russian – ask me a question. Be it about Russia or a personal one.
Thread: From Rus' to Russia - grand concert on the Red Square, June 12th 2015 - please help with translation!

Remember that future is always proceeded by its shadows.
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A_J_S_B:

#Ukraine now says that #Debaltseve has no tactical value...
...preparing the populace for it's fall? lol
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Are they kidding me? It's the most open/important supply route between Donetsk & Lugansk and clears the way right to Slavyansk.
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MONTHS of hysterical Kiev/EuroMaidan propaganda has made holding Debaltseve into a "GREAT VICTORY!!!" after losing so much in the summer.

Remember, in the "New" Ukraine, Orwell's NewSpeak rules all.
Only the CURRENT TRUTH(tm) matters, no matter how different it is from whatever yesterdays Current Truth was.

Disagree, and you are a "Moskal", who will soon have the Nazi's knocking on your door late in the night.
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exactly.

that's Blueyez: definition of freedom.

go figure





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