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RUSSIAN DUMA INTRODUCES DRAFT LAW TO GIVE ETHNIC RUSSIANS IN UKRAINE IMMEDIATE RUSSIAN CITIZENSHIP, INTERFAX SAYS
 Quoting: Ontheverge


I have to give the Russians credit for setting this all up quite perfectly. Really, they are doing such a thorough job.

1. Own the Ukrainian leadership by lavishing them with money and gifts.
2. Create a situation in which the Ukraine is economically dependent on Russia.
3. Do everything in their power to goad the US and EU into supporting the Ukrainian revolutionaries.
4. Watch as the uprising happens and the official opposition lose control. The trap is sprung.
5. Give ethnic Russians in the Ukraine Russian citizenship.
6. Roll into Ukraine as 'protectors' of new Russian citizens and 'protectors' of the Ukrainian constitution.
7. Roll on the floor laughing as the US and EU panic.
8. Laugh as Ukrainian nationalists fire on Russian troops.
9. Draw the western powers into a shooting war that they can't win.
10. Re-take the Baltic states, Georgia, Poland, Hungary, Romania etc. Destroy NATO.
11. Watch, rubbing hands in glee, as China moves to take what it wants in Asia.
12. Carve out the European empire Russia always wanted.
13. Plunder Europe to save Russia's economy.
14. Create a new world order.
15. Get pissed on Vodka and laugh about how easy it was.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53990064


Russians are only 80 million souls. They can't even fight at two fronts simultaneously. NATO is much much bigger. Sure, most armies in NATO are retarded except US and maybe some of the UK forces but NATO is huge compared to Russians.
Unless someone else wants BOTH parts NATO and Russia to lose.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54585810


Have you fogotten that china and its 2.5 million combat ready troops and 2.5 million reservists, with an addition 205 million personnel that can be activated at any one time. I think that just about equals out the Euro bitch problem for russia dont you?
 Quoting: SnakeBite


Are we really sure about those numbers?
Would you trust the Chinese?
Moving about 2,5 million men would pose a logistical nightmare and has only one historical equivalent. The Persian wars where a huge army crumbled at Hotgates (or Thermopylae) with an opposing force of only around 2.000 including the supply units.
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i now think nothhing is going to happen and every thing has gone back to normal

Any reports today of unrest in ukraine
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oh? so now Ukraine wants 35 billion dollars?

what a scam. tell those people to get a job!!!!!!
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How crazy is this shit

1404 GMT: Great news for the Ukrainian economy – its stocks have rallied significantly. Market Watch reports:
Stocks in Ukraine rallied, with the UX Index up more than 10%, according to the Ukrainian Exchange website… Ukraine’s finance ministry said Monday that it will seek a loan from the U.S. and Poland within the next two weeks and that it needs to raise around $35 billion by the end of 2015.
Trading was temporarily halted because the index was rising so quickly. As a result, the stocks have bounced lower for a time, but are again rising and are much improved over last week’s performance:

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Thread: ITALIAN PM RENZI SAYS ITALIAN PROVINCES SHOULD BE ELIMINATED!!!
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oh? so now Ukraine wants 35 billion dollars?

what a scam. tell those people to get a job!!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46805758


the funniest part of the joke is they want to join the EU cause they want a "real democracy with no corruption and economical/social improvment", they can ask Bulgary, greece... and so on
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RUSSIAN DUMA INTRODUCES DRAFT LAW TO GIVE ETHNIC RUSSIANS IN UKRAINE IMMEDIATE RUSSIAN CITIZENSHIP, INTERFAX SAYS
 Quoting: Ontheverge


I have to give the Russians credit for setting this all up quite perfectly. Really, they are doing such a thorough job.

1. Own the Ukrainian leadership by lavishing them with money and gifts.
2. Create a situation in which the Ukraine is economically dependent on Russia.
3. Do everything in their power to goad the US and EU into supporting the Ukrainian revolutionaries.
4. Watch as the uprising happens and the official opposition lose control. The trap is sprung.
5. Give ethnic Russians in the Ukraine Russian citizenship.
6. Roll into Ukraine as 'protectors' of new Russian citizens and 'protectors' of the Ukrainian constitution.
7. Roll on the floor laughing as the US and EU panic.
8. Laugh as Ukrainian nationalists fire on Russian troops.
9. Draw the western powers into a shooting war that they can't win.
10. Re-take the Baltic states, Georgia, Poland, Hungary, Romania etc. Destroy NATO.
11. Watch, rubbing hands in glee, as China moves to take what it wants in Asia.
12. Carve out the European empire Russia always wanted.
13. Plunder Europe to save Russia's economy.
14. Create a new world order.
15. Get pissed on Vodka and laugh about how easy it was.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53990064


Russians are only 80 million souls. They can't even fight at two fronts simultaneously. NATO is much much bigger. Sure, most armies in NATO are retarded except US and maybe some of the UK forces but NATO is huge compared to Russians.
Unless someone else wants BOTH parts NATO and Russia to lose.
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don't forget the brothers and cousins of Serbia, Greece etc...
 Quoting: attila


Half our ships don't work and Serbians don't have any.
This is going to be a sea war if any.
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I have to give the Russians credit for setting this all up quite perfectly. Really, they are doing such a thorough job.

1. Own the Ukrainian leadership by lavishing them with money and gifts.
2. Create a situation in which the Ukraine is economically dependent on Russia.
3. Do everything in their power to goad the US and EU into supporting the Ukrainian revolutionaries.
4. Watch as the uprising happens and the official opposition lose control. The trap is sprung.
5. Give ethnic Russians in the Ukraine Russian citizenship.
6. Roll into Ukraine as 'protectors' of new Russian citizens and 'protectors' of the Ukrainian constitution.
7. Roll on the floor laughing as the US and EU panic.
8. Laugh as Ukrainian nationalists fire on Russian troops.
9. Draw the western powers into a shooting war that they can't win.
10. Re-take the Baltic states, Georgia, Poland, Hungary, Romania etc. Destroy NATO.
11. Watch, rubbing hands in glee, as China moves to take what it wants in Asia.
12. Carve out the European empire Russia always wanted.
13. Plunder Europe to save Russia's economy.
14. Create a new world order.
15. Get pissed on Vodka and laugh about how easy it was.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53990064


Russians are only 80 million souls. They can't even fight at two fronts simultaneously. NATO is much much bigger. Sure, most armies in NATO are retarded except US and maybe some of the UK forces but NATO is huge compared to Russians.
Unless someone else wants BOTH parts NATO and Russia to lose.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54585810


Have you fogotten that china and its 2.5 million combat ready troops and 2.5 million reservists, with an addition 205 million personnel that can be activated at any one time. I think that just about equals out the Euro bitch problem for russia dont you?
 Quoting: SnakeBite


Are we really sure about those numbers?
Would you trust the Chinese?
Moving about 2,5 million men would pose a logistical nightmare and has only one historical equivalent. The Persian wars where a huge army crumbled at Hotgates (or Thermopylae) with an opposing force of only around 2.000 including the supply units.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54585810


The Iraqi army moved over a million men in 1991... Just sayin
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@russian_market: YANUKOVICH IS GETTING READY TO LEAVE UKRAINE ON RUSSIAN MILITARY SHIP FROM SEVASTOPOL - ATR TV [link to t.co]
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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Supposedly.

BTW about that sea war.
Turkey is the key.
They hold the Bosporus straits and they can decide who they can let in.
Erdogan won't let NATO in so easily.
A wise NATO decision would be to put Turkey in turmoil and cooperate with eager allies so they can forget the Bosporus, close it down, else Romania and Bulgaria would want to weigh in with their demands and that would complicate things to a crawl and start attacking from Turkish shores.
Most viable option for NATO plus they will have a bonus front with Georgia to pop up at any time.
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Supposedly.

BTW about that sea war.
Turkey is the key.
They hold the Bosporus straits and they can decide who they can let in.
Erdogan won't let NATO in so easily.
A wise NATO decision would be to put Turkey in turmoil and cooperate with eager allies so they can forget the Bosporus, close it down, else Romania and Bulgaria would want to weigh in with their demands and that would complicate things to a crawl and start attacking from Turkish shores.
Most viable option for NATO plus they will have a bonus front with Georgia to pop up at any time.
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Turkey is a member of the NATO btw
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#Russia PM #Medvedev is pissed at events in #Ukraine [link to itar-tass.com] #euormaidan pic.twitter.com/VNMjq6PPif
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Indeed and Erdogan is still holding nicely so I would postpone any plans against Russians if I was NATO.
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Russians are only 80 million souls. They can't even fight at two fronts simultaneously. NATO is much much bigger. Sure, most armies in NATO are retarded except US and maybe some of the UK forces but NATO is huge compared to Russians.
Unless someone else wants BOTH parts NATO and Russia to lose.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54585810


Have you fogotten that china and its 2.5 million combat ready troops and 2.5 million reservists, with an addition 205 million personnel that can be activated at any one time. I think that just about equals out the Euro bitch problem for russia dont you?
 Quoting: SnakeBite


Are we really sure about those numbers?
Would you trust the Chinese?
Moving about 2,5 million men would pose a logistical nightmare and has only one historical equivalent. The Persian wars where a huge army crumbled at Hotgates (or Thermopylae) with an opposing force of only around 2.000 including the supply units.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54585810


The Iraqi army moved over a million men in 1991... Just sayin
 Quoting: SnakeBite


"KINGS OF THE EAST"

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@russian_market: YANUKOVICH IS GETTING READY TO LEAVE UKRAINE ON RUSSIAN MILITARY SHIP FROM SEVASTOPOL - ATR TV [link to t.co]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45656610


So what will the Ukrainian "government" do now? Demand that the Russians give him back?

Speaking of, i'm curious to see what Russia will do with him now that the police is looking for Yanukovych.
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YANUKOVICH IS GETTING READY TO LEAVE UKRAINE ON RUSSIAN MILITARY SHIP FROM SEVASTOPOL - ATR TV
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How crazy is this shit

1404 GMT: Great news for the Ukrainian economy – its stocks have rallied significantly. Market Watch reports:
Stocks in Ukraine rallied, with the UX Index up more than 10%, according to the Ukrainian Exchange website… Ukraine’s finance ministry said Monday that it will seek a loan from the U.S. and Poland within the next two weeks and that it needs to raise around $35 billion by the end of 2015.
Trading was temporarily halted because the index was rising so quickly. As a result, the stocks have bounced lower for a time, but are again rising and are much improved over last week’s performance:

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No, that's no problem at all for I am fully convinced that our North American friends here are more than willing to give away their tax money so that their government can use it to bribe and establish these puppet governments around the world.

We can then all brag about how great of a superpower murika is, when the govt is being played by the elite bankers into mindless power games around the world.

Now deep into Soviet territory, go murika!
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EU declared they will propose a "plan " to help Ukraine by May if the country set regular elections.

Mr Tusk formin of Poland warned ukraininans against any "desire of vengeance"
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zerohedge ‏@zerohedge · 1 min
Russian Church fears spread of religious intolerance in Russia - IFX

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YANUKOVICH IS GETTING READY TO LEAVE UKRAINE ON RUSSIAN MILITARY SHIP FROM SEVASTOPOL - ATR TV
 Quoting: boku82


It's like an international version of "Where's Waldo" Sightings of Yanukovich everywhere....
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zerohedge ‏@zerohedge · 1 min
Russian Church fears spread of religious intolerance in Russia - IFX


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What does that mean?
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Russian Church fears spread of religious intolerance in Russia - IFX


 Quoting: Luisport


What does that mean?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38182597


russian catholics (minority) getting their asses kicked by the orthodox majority in retaliation against the ukrainian coup;
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Russian Church fears spread of religious intolerance in Russia - IFX


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What does that mean?
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Protect us from the evil in Kiev...

PUTIN COME


hiding
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Russian Church fears spread of religious intolerance in Russia - IFX


 Quoting: Luisport


What does that mean?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38182597


Protect us from the evil in Kiev...

PUTIN COME


hiding
 Quoting: Limpan


Putin the real hero of the world. Not self proclaimed world's police state of america.
"So you mean to say they've taken what we thought we think and make us think we thought our thoughts we've been thinking our thoughts we think we thought?"
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Putin is a ruthless bastard, but there is hope.
I see what is happening as the beginning of his fall
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Report that while trying to capture Yanik last night shots were fired against his convoy. People wounded and possible deaths #euromaidan
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Putin is a ruthless bastard, but there is hope.
I see what is happening as the beginning of his fall
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so Khodorkowski maffia and pussy riots mk ultras could take over Russia under the supervision of Banksters.
i would'nt see the progress here
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Russian Market ‏@russian_market · 55 seg
Yesterday protesters attemped to arrest Yanukovich in Crimea; several persons were injured. Yanukovich escaped - LB reports



Russian Market ‏@russian_market · 4 min
Ukrainian newspapers write Yanukovich's girlfriend, step-daughter and Yanukovich's personal chef escaped to United Arab Emirates - LB






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