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Yuan is the second mosts used currency in bilateral trade involving China and everyone else. Yuan is the oversll 7th most used payment medium globally.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64896888


No I didn't misunderstand, I was just showing the agreements done with China and that they will have Russia's back no matter what.
In regards to the devaluation of the Ruble I said its an advantage now actually, because every deal they do with Dollars (like oil, even if at lower prices), their domestic budget is in Rubles so it can actually fund more. Do you now understand what I tried to say?
About the oil prices, Russia can stay like this for the next couple years, easy. Starting 2017 the new pipeline connecting Siberia with China will be fully operational. And again, don't forget several countries, especially Germany, will NEVER stop dealing completely with Russia, especially when it comes to energy.
So it's a wet dream of people saying Russia's economy is going to collapse and the Ruble is falling and oil price is sinking. They knew this was going to happen and they prepared.
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Who would benefit from a Russian collapse? Certainly not Europe
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China and Ukraine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64894483


And then China is on its own against the US/EU/NATO

Ukraine is fucked for the winter.

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US Dollar is not used in trade between Russian legal entities for many years already.
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Sure! US dollar ...But what would China say in the nearest future? The rumours go, she is gonna terminate it in spring!

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Follow this live for more then two hours now. With two live cams.
only hear barking dogs. And cars.
No fighting shelling.
Quiet like christmis evening.
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Twitter is recycaling again then chuckle
 Quoting: Bes Maat


Wauw hear something.
Very far away a machine gun.
Stoped alteady and that was the highlight for the last three hours.
The reality is very different then twitter reality.
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Fact is that there was shelling whole day but it stopped aprox 2 hours ago. Videos below are from today:


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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Yes more then four hours ago. When there was daylight.
About 1 hour and 15 minutes it wil be midnight in east ukraine.
Stil have my two cams open. Do not like the barking dogs.
very sillence at Donetsk . The whole evening.
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Ukraine is fucked for the winter.
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Forget about Ukraine for ever, not for the winter! ARIP!
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Europe would suffer the most - but as someone already made their sentiments known "Fuck the EU", you know they don't care what happens. There are quite a few that would benefit. In more than just financial ways of course.
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Twitter is recycaling again then chuckle
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Wauw hear something.
Very far away a machine gun.
Stoped alteady and that was the highlight for the last three hours.
The reality is very different then twitter reality.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64821113


Fact is that there was shelling whole day but it stopped aprox 2 hours ago. Videos below are from today:


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Yes more then four hours ago. When there was daylight.
About 1 hour and 15 minutes it wil be midnight in east ukraine.
Stil have my two cams open. Do not like the barking dogs.
very sillence at Donetsk . The whole evening.
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During evening, after dark there was explosions too. It stopped something like 3 hours ago. I watched stream from cam targeted on the airport.
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Confirmed: Ukraine's NSDC reports that Russia has put air transport units on alert [link to nvua.net] …
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
________________________________________________________​__________________
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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a is under military attack and Russia's government is lead by a traitor, the a nazi agent impersonating murdered Putin.
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I think you are right. And I always laughed when people would give credit or fault for economic issues to a new President. The incoming always reaps what his predecessor sowed. That's too hard to understand for the average "smart phone voter" as well chuckle
 Quoting: Bes Maat


Obama was lauded as 'change' and a 'saviour' before he even entered the white house. That's how retarded voters are.

It takes many years before you see what difference a president has truly made.
 Quoting: Taskforce88


Absolutely, and we can see this with Foreign Policy too btw...he entered when lots of stuff was up in flames and in ruins, he was supposed to fix everything, instead everything came undone, also due to more mistakes done but most regional conflicts he can't be blamed for. Unlike some of the oldtimers sitting on Capitol Hill.
Sorry OP for off topic.
In regards to Russia US relations, he could have had a chance to cooperate and draw them in, as the saying goes "Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer" - instead he continued towing the "cold war era" line, caving into the pressure from his Bosses obviously. That's totally on him in my opinion, and a result of his shortsighted mind. He needed to appear "tough" for the "smart phone voters" - didn't help him in the midterms did it? Now the shit is really going to start.
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And the whole pivot to Asia thing as well. Of course large countries will have their differences but to purposely piss them off is crazy.
 Quoting: Taskforce88


Yes, with China and Russia entering this huge deal and dropping the Petro Dollar for it as well. Instead of pissing them off and threatening them to play according to their rules, whatever happened to diplomacy? Sitting down and working things out so everyone can benefit? Putin asked for that in this conflict specifically several times actually a year ago at this time, and every time Brussels (EU) and US told him to stay out of it and to fuck off. And now they're blaming him. putin
Western democ(k)racy and polic(i)e
People still haven't learned to look past the MSM hype during any major event and instead inform themselves. Press Freedom doesn't exist, only the few in charge of this theater have the freedom to form your opinion by spreading their version of events. Be careful guys!
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Confirmed: Ukraine's NSDC reports that Russia has put air transport units on alert [link to nvua.net] …
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As far as I know, Russia has already occupied Kharkov and Mariupol! Airborn have landed near Odessa!
Germany is ready to capitulate! Austria still refuses!
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Confirmed: Ukraine's NSDC reports that Russia has put air transport units on alert [link to nvua.net] …
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As far as I know, Russia has already occupied Kharkov and Mariupol! Airborn have landed near Odessa!
Germany is ready to capitulate! Austria still refuses!
 Quoting: Sorry!


And France surrendered!
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It's actually an advantage right now, also the oil price doesn't matter to Russia. They can deal with it for at least the next couple years if, prices of food etc are getting higher anyways so it won't cause trouble with the people either. The oil will go up again anyways, it has to.
People don't realize that Putin actually has studied economics as well besides law.
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You misunderstand the function of currency swaps. They were and are created as a result of the 2008 crisis. They are designed to inject liquidity into local and regional markets. In '08, usd M2 had a major, major contraction, this alone broke many economies. The flurry of swaps recently is b/c the Fed is ending QE and with that money supply will shrink and that causes more exposed countries recession problems.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64896888

Yuan is the second mosts used currency in bilateral trade involving China and everyone else. Yuan is the oversll 7th most used payment medium globally.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64896888


No I didn't misunderstand, I was just showing the agreements done with China and that they will have Russia's back no matter what.
In regards to the devaluation of the Ruble I said its an advantage now actually, because every deal they do with Dollars (like oil, even if at lower prices), their domestic budget is in Rubles so it can actually fund more. Do you now understand what I tried to say?
About the oil prices, Russia can stay like this for the next couple years, easy. Starting 2017 the new pipeline connecting Siberia with China will be fully operational. And again, don't forget several countries, especially Germany, will NEVER stop dealing completely with Russia, especially when it comes to energy.
So it's a wet dream of people saying Russia's economy is going to collapse and the Ruble is falling and oil price is sinking. They knew this was going to happen and they prepared.
 Quoting: Bes Maat

Ok, I agree with a lot of that. However, China has it's own agenda and they have dealt with Russia harshly recently. The Russian national budget assumes oil price far greater than it is today, not only for 2014, but 15, 16, 17. So oil price is a big problem. Russia can be insulated from the oil crash, but they make severe concessions as a trade-off. Mainly, burning through their reserves, which have already seen 75bn usd gone in the past year.
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Obama was lauded as 'change' and a 'saviour' before he even entered the white house. That's how retarded voters are.

It takes many years before you see what difference a president has truly made.
 Quoting: Taskforce88


Absolutely, and we can see this with Foreign Policy too btw...he entered when lots of stuff was up in flames and in ruins, he was supposed to fix everything, instead everything came undone, also due to more mistakes done but most regional conflicts he can't be blamed for. Unlike some of the oldtimers sitting on Capitol Hill.
Sorry OP for off topic.
In regards to Russia US relations, he could have had a chance to cooperate and draw them in, as the saying goes "Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer" - instead he continued towing the "cold war era" line, caving into the pressure from his Bosses obviously. That's totally on him in my opinion, and a result of his shortsighted mind. He needed to appear "tough" for the "smart phone voters" - didn't help him in the midterms did it? Now the shit is really going to start.
 Quoting: Bes Maat


And the whole pivot to Asia thing as well. Of course large countries will have their differences but to purposely piss them off is crazy.
 Quoting: Taskforce88


Yes, with China and Russia entering this huge deal and dropping the Petro Dollar for it as well. Instead of pissing them off and threatening them to play according to their rules, whatever happened to diplomacy? Sitting down and working things out so everyone can benefit? Putin asked for that in this conflict specifically several times actually a year ago at this time, and every time Brussels (EU) and US told him to stay out of it and to fuck off. And now they're blaming him. putin
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 Quoting: Bes Maat


Obama has this grand strategy which became known as the 'Pivot to Asia'.

What he wanted to do was pull out of the ME and Europe and focus on confronting China, or 'protecting' allies in the region as he put it.

Almost as soon as he mentioned his plan, boom both the ME and Ukraine blew up.
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Western democ(k)racy and polic(i)e
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Syrian FM: Russia may resume delivery of S300 to #Assad. If EU and US opt for more sanctions Moscow will strike where it hurts the most
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Reminder of Last Prophet's words from April 2014 (notes updated Jun 11):
Syria vs Ukraine: Air bombing cities targeting civilians - the fake and the real difference
Mercenaries in the illuminati payroll attack nearly ALL the population while the theater US v Russia is staged as background.
The first role is actively supporting the mercenary army. The second has the passive role, while pretending to support the attacked civilians.

The "difference" in the US v Russia theater:
- Syria: Russia alias the fake Putin has the active and the US the passive role;
- Ukraine: it's the other way round, or in other words "Putin" has the passive role.

The real difference:
- in Syria the freedom fighters are aware that "Putin" is on the same side as the nazi mercenaries.
- In the Ukraine the freedom fighters are not only NOT aware that "Putin" is on the same side as the nazi mercenaries but they still believe that "Putin" is on their side.
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And France surrendered!
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The question I have is what are the determinants for a global reserve currency and does China meet them?
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Confirmed: Ukraine's NSDC reports that Russia has put air transport units on alert [link to nvua.net] …
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Confirmed. But what is putin planing? Fear, invasion, let see his power?
I think putin is a well chess player. Must wait to see, i think.

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You misunderstand the function of currency swaps. They were and are created as a result of the 2008 crisis. They are designed to inject liquidity into local and regional markets. In '08, usd M2 had a major, major contraction, this alone broke many economies. The flurry of swaps recently is b/c the Fed is ending QE and with that money supply will shrink and that causes more exposed countries recession problems.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64896888

Yuan is the second mosts used currency in bilateral trade involving China and everyone else. Yuan is the oversll 7th most used payment medium globally.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64896888


No I didn't misunderstand, I was just showing the agreements done with China and that they will have Russia's back no matter what.
In regards to the devaluation of the Ruble I said its an advantage now actually, because every deal they do with Dollars (like oil, even if at lower prices), their domestic budget is in Rubles so it can actually fund more. Do you now understand what I tried to say?
About the oil prices, Russia can stay like this for the next couple years, easy. Starting 2017 the new pipeline connecting Siberia with China will be fully operational. And again, don't forget several countries, especially Germany, will NEVER stop dealing completely with Russia, especially when it comes to energy.
So it's a wet dream of people saying Russia's economy is going to collapse and the Ruble is falling and oil price is sinking. They knew this was going to happen and they prepared.
 Quoting: Bes Maat

Ok, I agree with a lot of that. However, China has it's own agenda and they have dealt with Russia harshly recently. The Russian national budget assumes oil price far greater than it is today, not only for 2014, but 15, 16, 17. So oil price is a big problem. Russia can be insulated from the oil crash, but they make severe concessions as a trade-off. Mainly, burning through their reserves, which have already seen 75bn usd gone in the past year.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64896888


I can agree with most of what you said too, however, neither one of us has all the details in front of us, especially not the type of details that are not for public consumption. I would assume that by 2017 things might look entirely different and alot at what the West seems to be aiming/hoping for could become their own demise. I heard a saying once, that if you try too many difficult steps to trick someone else, you will trip yourself and fall.
People still haven't learned to look past the MSM hype during any major event and instead inform themselves. Press Freedom doesn't exist, only the few in charge of this theater have the freedom to form your opinion by spreading their version of events. Be careful guys!
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No I didn't misunderstand, I was just showing the agreements done with China and that they will have Russia's back no matter what.
In regards to the devaluation of the Ruble I said its an advantage now actually, because every deal they do with Dollars (like oil, even if at lower prices), their domestic budget is in Rubles so it can actually fund more. Do you now understand what I tried to say?
About the oil prices, Russia can stay like this for the next couple years, easy. Starting 2017 the new pipeline connecting Siberia with China will be fully operational. And again, don't forget several countries, especially Germany, will NEVER stop dealing completely with Russia, especially when it comes to energy.
So it's a wet dream of people saying Russia's economy is going to collapse and the Ruble is falling and oil price is sinking. They knew this was going to happen and they prepared.
 Quoting: Bes Maat


Who would benefit from a Russian collapse? Certainly not Europe
 Quoting: Taskforce88


China and Ukraine.
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And then China is on its own against the US/EU/NATO

Ukraine is fucked for the winter.
 Quoting: Taskforce88



China has being always on its own, but its first main target is "northern territories" - far east of Russia.

As for Ukraine, don't exagerate - nothing really critical.
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Confirmed: Ukraine's NSDC reports that Russia has put air transport units on alert [link to nvua.net] …
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Confirmed. But what is putin planing? Fear, invasion, let see his power?
I think putin is a well chess player. Must wait to see, i think.

Live donetsk. Dogs are going to sleep.
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It might be an exercise.
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It's actually an advantage right now, also the oil price doesn't matter to Russia. They can deal with it for at least the next couple years if, prices of food etc are getting higher anyways so it won't cause trouble with the people either. The oil will go up again anyways, it has to.
People don't realize that Putin actually has studied economics as well besides law.
 Quoting: Bes Maat

You misunderstand the function of currency swaps. They were and are created as a result of the 2008 crisis. They are designed to inject liquidity into local and regional markets. In '08, usd M2 had a major, major contraction, this alone broke many economies. The flurry of swaps recently is b/c the Fed is ending QE and with that money supply will shrink and that causes more exposed countries recession problems.
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Yuan is the second mosts used currency in bilateral trade involving China and everyone else. Yuan is the oversll 7th most used payment medium globally.
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No I didn't misunderstand, I was just showing the agreements done with China and that they will have Russia's back no matter what.
In regards to the devaluation of the Ruble I said its an advantage now actually, because every deal they do with Dollars (like oil, even if at lower prices), their domestic budget is in Rubles so it can actually fund more. Do you now understand what I tried to say?
About the oil prices, Russia can stay like this for the next couple years, easy. Starting 2017 the new pipeline connecting Siberia with China will be fully operational. And again, don't forget several countries, especially Germany, will NEVER stop dealing completely with Russia, especially when it comes to energy.
So it's a wet dream of people saying Russia's economy is going to collapse and the Ruble is falling and oil price is sinking. They knew this was going to happen and they prepared.
 Quoting: Bes Maat

hesright
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Confirmed. But what is putin planing? Fear, invasion, let see his power?
I think putin is a well chess player. Must wait to see, i think.

Live donetsk. Dogs are going to sleep.
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It might be an exercise.
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Most likely, very much doubt they are about to drop into the east lol
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And the whole pivot to Asia thing as well. Of course large countries will have their differences but to purposely piss them off is crazy.
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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
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You misunderstand the function of currency swaps. They were and are created as a result of the 2008 crisis. They are designed to inject liquidity into local and regional markets. In '08, usd M2 had a major, major contraction, this alone broke many economies. The flurry of swaps recently is b/c the Fed is ending QE and with that money supply will shrink and that causes more exposed countries recession problems.
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Yuan is the second mosts used currency in bilateral trade involving China and everyone else. Yuan is the oversll 7th most used payment medium globally.
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No I didn't misunderstand, I was just showing the agreements done with China and that they will have Russia's back no matter what.
In regards to the devaluation of the Ruble I said its an advantage now actually, because every deal they do with Dollars (like oil, even if at lower prices), their domestic budget is in Rubles so it can actually fund more. Do you now understand what I tried to say?
About the oil prices, Russia can stay like this for the next couple years, easy. Starting 2017 the new pipeline connecting Siberia with China will be fully operational. And again, don't forget several countries, especially Germany, will NEVER stop dealing completely with Russia, especially when it comes to energy.
So it's a wet dream of people saying Russia's economy is going to collapse and the Ruble is falling and oil price is sinking. They knew this was going to happen and they prepared.
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Ok, I agree with a lot of that. However, China has it's own agenda and they have dealt with Russia harshly recently. The Russian national budget assumes oil price far greater than it is today, not only for 2014, but 15, 16, 17. So oil price is a big problem. Russia can be insulated from the oil crash, but they make severe concessions as a trade-off. Mainly, burning through their reserves, which have already seen 75bn usd gone in the past year.
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Against completely blinded and one sided approach to Russia. You are so obsessed with Russia you don't see the elephant in the room. How much will the US lose if the biggest seller of oil...their saudi allies and wahhabi proxy States cut down on their military spending. You know they buy from the US...and the saudis spend around 40% of their budget on weapons.
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The question I have is what are the determinants for a global reserve currency and does China meet them?
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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Nathan J Hunt ‏@ISNJH 1 min.
Confirmed: Ukraine's NSDC reports that Russia has put air transport units on alert [link to nvua.net] …
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Confirmed. But what is putin planing? Fear, invasion, let see his power?
I think putin is a well chess player. Must wait to see, i think.

Live donetsk. Dogs are going to sleep.
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It might be an exercise.
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Most likely, very much doubt they are about to drop into the east lol
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then there is a newsflash lol

But Putin isn't going to invade the East, the it I find quite funny is supporting Afghan, he isn't going to bog himself down in a new chechnya, another 2 years then maybe until then he is going to toy with us all.

you can do a lot to man's mind by going lights on lights off, then that man breaks,you on the other hand haven't had to put hands on him, Taskforce you know about the transition of warfare, this is attrition
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It might be an exercise.
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I'm not sure about Your suggestion, but that was! Just an exercise!
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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
The ruble crash continues. The ruble shit the bed today. It blew right through 45 and 46.

Down 3.86% for the day, and 38% since July 1st vs USD.

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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Nathan J Hunt ‏@ISNJH 1 min.
Confirmed: Ukraine's NSDC reports that Russia has put air transport units on alert [link to nvua.net] …
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Confirmed. But what is putin planing? Fear, invasion, let see his power?
I think putin is a well chess player. Must wait to see, i think.

Live donetsk. Dogs are going to sleep.
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It might be an exercise.
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Most likely, very much doubt they are about to drop into the east lol
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I would not be surprised following the events the last week. Not a invasion as in history. More crimea styli . And take more ground. It wil be now or about a few weeks.





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